Baddest 68 Camaro in the UNIVERSE

[Al Moreno]

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[XcYZ]

Wow!! What a bad ass build!

Do you have any more pics. :unibrow:

[Al Moreno]

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[Van B]

You can't just post that and not tell us who is building it and where.:drool:

[WSSix]

Seriously! Need more info because you may be right.

[Scorpner]

You got my attention. :yes:

[coolwelder62]

MORE,MORE!!!! WOW!!! What a pc. of engineering.This thing is bad as#.You must post more or I wont be able to sleep tonight.Makes me want to go to shop and fab something.:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :hail: :hail: :hail:

[Al Moreno]

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[Young Gun]

How does the suspension move up front? Im just looking at the pictures but I dont see how it moves? Just curious because im just learning about suspension stuff now... regardless,


SICK

and what I was talking about what confuses me:
http://www.lateral-g.net/forums/attachment.php4?attachmentid=22062&d=1262744465
http://www.lateral-g.net/forums/attachment.php4?attachmentid=22069&d=1262745204

[phillym5]

Amazing... I love the under body panel. Thats what dreams are made of right there.....:captain:

[Al Moreno]

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[GregWeld]

Amazing... I love the under body panel. Thats what dreams are made of right there.....:captain:

Josh -- We're going to have to get you out more dude!!
:rofl:

Sick build --- and I agree with the others we need more info... it's a real WOW!

[XcYZ]

Wonder how big that motor is... looks like a 10/10ths deal to me. :thumbsup:

[nvr2fst]

Stunning project, a lot of thought went into this one. Everything about it says bad a!!

[Vegas69]

Normally I'd have a smart alec comment due to you heading, but you may have a case. :thumbsup: Killer metal work and an all aluminum big block chevy with a dry sump. I think we could have beers. :D

[Al Moreno]

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[Al Moreno]

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[Al Moreno]

Normally I'd have a smart alec comment due to you heading, but you may have a case. :thumbsup: Killer metal work and an all aluminum big block chevy with a dry sump. I think we could have beers. :D


LOL, your on. :lol:

[GregWeld]

Al --

That isn't any road car :question: ... this thing is a pro built all out race machine eh??

What kool stuff...

[Al Moreno]

Not really.

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[nvr2fst]

Al, Is this car buy chance from New York.
I see you plan on teasing us for the next hour. Load them up quicker!

[Al Moreno]

Wonder how big that motor is... looks like a 10/10ths deal to me. :thumbsup:

540 all aluminum 765 hp 735 ft torque

[James OLC]

wow
awesome work

[Al Moreno]

Al, Is this car buy chance from New York.
I see you plan on teasing us for the next hour. Load them up quicker!


Is this the one your thinking about?

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[nvr2fst]

Is this the one your thinking about?

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Yes Sir, thats it.
Enders (engine builder) I believe is from the same area. Know for doing a ton of dirt track engines

[MtotheIKEo]

How does the suspension move up front? Im just looking at the pictures but I dont see how it moves? Just curious because im just learning about suspension stuff now... regardless,


SICK

and what I was talking about what confuses me:
http://www.lateral-g.net/forums/attachment.php4?attachmentid=22062&d=1262744465
http://www.lateral-g.net/forums/attachment.php4?attachmentid=22069&d=1262745204

Would move just like normal, only difference is the use of rod ends in place of bushings.

[GregWeld]

Tell ya what -- I have all rod ends in my front suspension - and I wish I DIDN'T... They're too harsh for a "street" driven suspension.

[Young Gun]

Would move just like normal, only difference is the use of rod ends in place of bushings.

I dont see how it moves vertically im saying... it looks like it can only move horizontally, does anybody see what I am talking about?

[Al Moreno]

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[deuce_454]

super cool car.. but this is the answer to the thread people were arguing about a month back.... "when does a camaro cease to be a camaro?" or what ever it was called... this is at best a trubute to the 1. gen... but a damn cool one, at that

[Teetoe_Jones]

AAAAnnnnd I'm out.

Check the for sale section. I'm guessing this is Gary's 2nd version?

That is bad ass and I'm actually jealous.

Tyler

[Al Moreno]

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[Al Moreno]

super cool car.. but this is the answer to the thread people were arguing about a month back.... "when does a camaro cease to be a camaro?" or what ever it was called... this is at best a trubute to the 1. gen... but a damn cool one, at that

Your right, not much Camaro here!


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[customcam]

Thanks for Posting Al ! Full onski :thumbsup:

[Flash68]

Incredible.

[LowchevyII]

hot damn. that thing is amazing. that belly pan is a work of art. Rupp where you at!? maybe a belly pan in Penny's future?

[ironworks]

Cool stuff, Thanks for posting. Now go find some more....

[skatinjay27]

hott damn!!!!!!!!!!!!

[RECOVERY ROOM]

Normally I'd have a smart alec comment due to you heading, but you may have a case. :thumbsup: Killer metal work and an all aluminum big block chevy with a dry sump. I think we could have beers. :D

Are you feeling OK? you can think of something:lol:

[lhkustoms]

wow :bow: we need some more info

[MtotheIKEo]

I dont see how it moves vertically im saying... it looks like it can only move horizontally, does anybody see what I am talking about?

Are you familiar with rod ends? They can pivot freely inside the race, instead of the pivoting around a trunnion they are using the ball as the pivot. Works fine as long as you stay within the limited amount of misalignment for the given rod end.

[Mr.VENGEANCE]

Is this the one your thinking about?

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if this is the car and those are the final wheel choice then i cant give it the BEST in the universe.. maybe this Milkyway Galaxy.. but not universe.


NOW IF IT RAN THE ORIGINAL WHEELS IN THE FIRST POST!

then i am currently..
http://andymoore.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/death-star-explodes.jpg

[Matt@BOS]

hot damn. that thing is amazing. that belly pan is a work of art. Rupp where you at!? maybe a belly pan in Penny's future?

Do not give that man any more ideas. Knowing him a belly pan would lead to a complete rebuild and a new engine. So next year, maybe? :unibrow:

I think I'm going to have to stop visiting this site now that I've got something drivable, and I feel really lucky to have something 99 percent done, because if I didn't I would just find too many inspiring ideas (to steal), and would never finish anything.

Hell, this makes me want to go out and find another project :willy:

Matt

[Bowtieracing]

..
NOW IF IT RAN THE ORIGINAL WHEELS IN THE FIRST POST!

then i am currently..
http://andymoore.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/death-star-explodes.jpg




I agree 110%!!!!:unibrow:


I love the flat bottom and the front air opening. Is there any video of this on track?

[Al Moreno]

if this is the car and those are the final wheel choice then i cant give it the BEST in the universe.. maybe this Milkyway Galaxy.. but not universe.


NOW IF IT RAN THE ORIGINAL WHEELS IN THE FIRST POST!

then i am currently..
http://andymoore.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/death-star-explodes.jpg

They are running two sets of wheels (Kinesis and a Forgeline) depending on the day of the week, LOL.


So perhaps it's the best in the Milkyway on Mondays and transforms to the best of the Universe on Tuesday, LOL. :cheers:

[sniper]

Is this the one your thinking about?

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"flame suit on"

If that is the same car, it's a shame they did all that fabrication and then just "stuck" that chin spoiler on there like that. Looks like it extends to far into the wheel well and doesn't flow well to the rocker area. The rocker flows down and under the car, that spoiler looks like a shovel, down and out.

[sniper]

@Sniper
Before you post up negative comments... how 'bout letting us all see your "work of art".
I remember reading the rules of the board, and I did not see anywhere in there that said, I must post pics of my work, before making "negative" comments on someone elses car.

Simmer down, It's just my opinion. Jeez, I guess no one around here is ever allowed to make a comment that doesn't follow the status quo. And I said nothing about the build quality of the rest of the build, so please do not put words in my mouth. I commented on one single thing.

And to your other point, what has what I built or NOT built have to do with just giving an opinion on something someone else posts on the internet? And I suppose he posted his car to get some opinions, and quite possibly knowing that not everything he did is what everyone else would like. We are all supposed to be grown up, and taking some nobody's critque should be easy.

[Vegas69]

Without hijacking this thread, it really comes down to picking out the negative side of anything. Sure there are some things we all dislike but the amount of work and vision is out of this world to pull something like this off. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but consider what you like about the car not what you don't. JMO

[Bryce]

Friggen Awesome

[70rs]

Amazing build.:thumbsup:

[Bow Tie 67]

I like the way it was thought out. Reminds me of an exotic, very purpose build. Please tell us this thing is going to be put through its paces.

[Stuart Adams]

I hope to see it at a track someday.

[scherp69]

:drool: :drool: :drool:

[RECOVERY ROOM]

Lots of time went into that car,I would like to see it at Columbus this year,There is a lot of work to look at.:thumbsup:

[rjsjea]

Maybe I missed it.............Who's the builder or the shop building the car? Gotta give the credit where it's due. A whole lotta work went into that, :thumbsup:

[Al Moreno]

Maybe I missed it.............Who's the builder or the shop building the car? Gotta give the credit where it's due. A whole lotta work went into that, :thumbsup:

It was built in Canada.

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[buickfunnycar.com]

I'm guessing this is Gary's 2nd version?

I think you're correct there Tyler,I've posted pics of the first one before from Laguna.

[Hdesign]

Very cool car....found their garage on the Hub. Lots of pix

http://www.hubgarage.com/mygarage/belou/vehicles/43081

[WILWAXU]

WOW! Whole different level there!

Front end looks strange...

[pokey64]

Amazing craftsmanship and fabrication but I'm not a fan of the front and rear styling.

[tones2SS]

That thing is CRAZY!!! Some of the styling is a little "too much" for me, but it's definitely a great build.:cheers:
Talk about a race car in a street car's clothes?!?!:wow:

[gracin7]

KILLER STUFF!!! Hood reminds me of the mid-year vette GS race car hood or at least styled after that

[James OLC]

Like I said earlier - wow - awesome work.

But... (zipping the old flame suit on)... I don't think that it is anywhere close to being the Baddest 68 Camaro in the Universe. Or even being a contender for that title. Especially with nothing but build pictures to back it up. The fabrication work is excellent and some of the styling is killer but (performance aside) the whole package just is not there.

Three examples from our own community

Tyler's 50/50 - the new Ironworks Chassis is awesome and while his aero design may not be for everyone, it is consistent and ties in throughout the car... it may not be finished yet but the potential is there
Carl's RS - a 'pure' looking car that just plain works - one of the original '68 Camaro PT cars that still sets the standard today
Bad Penny - if you want to be the man, you have to beat the man


I don't want to disrespect this project at all (I don't think that the building is calling it the baddest in the universe, just Al) - nor do I want to ignore a lot of other really really cool '68's (like Larry's) but hey... I thought it needed to be said.

That notwithstanding - it has the potential to prove me wrong.

[Vegas69]

I have to agree there, to me it's all about performance. Everything else is second place. Hard for me to consider 50/50 on that list in it's current form.

Just looked at the finished photos......I'll give it the most fabricated 68 in the world but I'd take Bad Penny over that car everyday that ends in day.

[Mr.VENGEANCE]

awwww man.. pon final view of the car in full finish in that hub garage account ill have to say...

http://memegenerator.net/Instances/546/Philosoraptor-Final-photos-a-letdown-Not-the-best-in-the-universe-i-reckon.jpg

and what the hell with that damn wing?!?

I will say this tho.. i kinda like the chopped top.. i wonder how much did they take off.. it almost seems raked.

[Roger M]

I like the engineering that went into this, but(flame suit on) the styling isn't to my liking.

This was on their HUB garage page.

tis is a special order for a exigent custumer , this guy want a hybrid version of a muscle car and a exotic car so whe design
a complete chassis monocoque elarge the body of 5 inches
back off the engine of 14 inches and make a tow place car to put the dry sump and the full cell back off the seats for a 50/50 pounds transfert .

and many many more stuff like that.
History of this Vehicle

whe are 4 guy in this story the first is the customer ho belive in us to spend about a million dollars in this project ,me and my friends built motors 15 years ago for fun after this every bodies go back to school i go take my bodieshop class and my friends take is ingenior class whe want to built a car to put all wath whe got in this 15 years of learning and work so whe start this project in 2004 my ingenior friends design the chassis and the suspension design the pounds repartition and the downforce i built the chassis alone cut the car in half
elarge of 5 inches to get a 64 inches of track whit 14 inches of tire at the back 335/35zr18 and 63 inches of track at front whit 12 inches of tire 285/35zr18 i design all the body style cut the front fender and the rear quater make a new front whit spoiler and a awsome hood whit fonctional duck to exit the wind the cowldown the radiator a cowl induction air graber style and louver to get off the hot air of the engine and many more thing are be done by me and another friends of mine the came to work whit me in 2005 we finish the car in 2009 and now whe are on the trak to adjust the suspension whit a pi data logger whe got 1g on the skid pad of 200 feet at 65 kmh whe are verry satisfied of this result .
Plans for this Vehicle

beat exotic car whit a muscle car and show the car in american magasine to show all the exigent work the have done on this car.

[Mr.VENGEANCE]

http://i50.tinypic.com/2zg5doh.jpg

[radrambler]

ok

a million dollars spent by the customer.:brix: ....hope they love it and it does whatever they wanted it to do !!
looked at the car on hubgarage..bolide design

Tom

[rwhite692]

tis is a special order for a exigent custumer , this guy want a hybrid version of a muscle car and a exotic car so whe design
a complete chassis monocoque elarge the body of 5 inches
back off the engine of 14 inches and make a tow place car to put the dry sump and the full cell back off the seats for a 50/50 pounds transfert .

and many many more stuff like that.
History of this Vehicle

whe are 4 guy in this story the first is the customer ho belive in us to spend about a million dollars in this project ,me and my friends built motors 15 years ago for fun after this every bodies go back to school i go take my bodieshop class and my friends take is ingenior class whe want to built a car to put all wath whe got in this 15 years of learning and work so whe start this project in 2004 my ingenior friends design the chassis and the suspension design the pounds repartition and the downforce i built the chassis alone cut the car in half
elarge of 5 inches to get a 64 inches of track whit 14 inches of tire at the back 335/35zr18 and 63 inches of track at front whit 12 inches of tire 285/35zr18 i design all the body style cut the front fender and the rear quater make a new front whit spoiler and a awsome hood whit fonctional duck to exit the wind the cowldown the radiator a cowl induction air graber style and louver to get off the hot air of the engine and many more thing are be done by me and another friends of mine the came to work whit me in 2005 we finish the car in 2009 and now whe are on the trak to adjust the suspension whit a pi data logger whe got 1g on the skid pad of 200 feet at 65 kmh whe are verry satisfied of this result .
Plans for this Vehicle

beat exotic car whit a muscle car and show the car in american magasine to show all the exigent work the have done on this car.


^^^^I could only read 3-4 sentences of this and Owwww! ice cream headache....

[Mr.VENGEANCE]

tis is a special order for a exigent custumer ,

whe are 4 guy in this story the first is the customer ho belive in us to spend about a million dollars in this project ,
beat exotic car whit a muscle car and show the car in american magasine to show all the exigent work the have done on this car.



http://memegenerator.net/Instances/707/Joseph-Ducreux-SPENT-A-MILLY-ON-A-CAMARO-BUT-CANT-SPEAKA-DA-INGLESH-HAHA.jpg

[70rs]

[
^^^^I could only read 3-4 sentences of this and Owwww! ice cream headache....

same here !!:wow:

[Vegas69]

Probably French........:unibrow:

[tones2SS]

http://i50.tinypic.com/2zg5doh.jpg

http://memegenerator.net/Instances/707/Joseph-Ducreux-SPENT-A-MILLY-ON-A-CAMARO-BUT-CANT-SPEAKA-DA-INGLESH-HAHA.jpg

lolllllll......
That's some funny stuff!!!!

[GregWeld]

Hey James ---

Let us know when you think Ty's car will EVER be finished... til then - it really can't be in the lineup for a medal... because you just said - until you saw performance -- a car shouldn't be eligible for big kudos like this.

Oh wait -- it could be in the running for "the longest ever time from start to finish"? :rofl: :rofl: That car was as Wayne Dues like 5 years ago when I bought my subframe from him... Saw it at Rogers a couple of months ago - looked pretty much the same... raw steel.

[cheezer]

The race track in the background is the ICAR ciruit, about 30mins north of Montreal. The track is built on the now much smaller, but still functioning for cargo, Mirabel Airport.

I will find out more about this car.

This sounds like the car I was told about by a friend of LEADFOOT who used to post here but went Pro Street with his car.

cheezer

[Al Moreno]

OK, I give....perhaps the universe is a little ambitious, maybe the Baddest 68 on the block, LOL:rofl:

You guys trip me out. I post that title because I knew you guys would get on the hook.

Who gives a sh#$ what atmosphere this car rules, LOL.

If are wife read this stuff, are credibility would go down the drain fast.

All in good sheer, Al.

PS, I agree that the styling might not be for me but there's some cool fab :cheers:

[James OLC]

Hey James ---

Let us know when you think Ty's car will EVER be finished... til then - it really can't be in the lineup for a medal... because you just said - until you saw performance -- a car shouldn't be eligible for big kudos like this.

Oh wait -- it could be in the running for "the longest ever time from start to finish"? :rofl: :rofl: That car was as Wayne Dues like 5 years ago when I bought my subframe from him... Saw it at Rogers a couple of months ago - looked pretty much the same... raw steel.

You're right Greg - my point in including it at all was (a) the new chassis is really, really cool and (IMHO) better engineered than the one that is in this post (an offset cell - really?) and (b) there are some pretty basic similarities in the front end styling and while the car in this post does not carry that theme through the car, Tyler's design did (ie the rockers and the front air damn were on the same plane) and (c) it was kind of a free plug since it's for sale (:D ). But you're right, at this point it capabilities are all supposition and until it is done it's not in the running.

So... let's get Penny and MotiV8R and Carl together and settle this thing right now! The 2010 Baddest 1968 Camaro in the Universe Street Car Invitational (?) :cheers:

[CarlC]

IN! I'm always up for a track day. Maybe tomorrow.....:unibrow:

[Garage Dog 65]

"i built the chassis alone cut the car in half elarge of 5 inches to get a 64 inches of track whit 14 inches of tire at the back 335/35zr18 and 63 inches of track at front whit 12 inches of tire 285/35zr18"

Cut a car in half and widened it 5 inches !!! That's just stupid !!

:P

Jim

[pokey64]

http://memegenerator.net/Instances/707/Joseph-Ducreux-SPENT-A-MILLY-ON-A-CAMARO-BUT-CANT-SPEAKA-DA-INGLESH-HAHA.jpg


Is that what an "exigent" looks like?

[pokey64]

tis is a special order for a exigent custumer , this guy want a hybrid version of a muscle car and a exotic car so whe design
a complete chassis monocoque elarge the body of 5 inches
back off the engine of 14 inches and make a tow place car to put the dry sump and the full cell back off the seats for a 50/50 pounds transfert .

and many many more stuff like that.
History of this Vehicle

whe are 4 guy in this story the first is the customer ho belive in us to spend about a million dollars in this project ,me and my friends built motors 15 years ago for fun after this every bodies go back to school i go take my bodieshop class and my friends take is ingenior class whe want to built a car to put all wath whe got in this 15 years of learning and work so whe start this project in 2004 my ingenior friends design the chassis and the suspension design the pounds repartition and the downforce i built the chassis alone cut the car in half
elarge of 5 inches to get a 64 inches of track whit 14 inches of tire at the back 335/35zr18 and 63 inches of track at front whit 12 inches of tire 285/35zr18 i design all the body style cut the front fender and the rear quater make a new front whit spoiler and a awsome hood whit fonctional duck to exit the wind the cowldown the radiator a cowl induction air graber style and louver to get off the hot air of the engine and many more thing are be done by me and another friends of mine the came to work whit me in 2005 we finish the car in 2009 and now whe are on the trak to adjust the suspension whit a pi data logger whe got 1g on the skid pad of 200 feet at 65 kmh whe are verry satisfied of this result .
Plans for this Vehicle

beat exotic car whit a muscle car and show the car in american magasine to show all the exigent work the have done on this car.

I got an email from a guy that read like this one time. But he was a nigerian prince and wanted to pay me to handle some money. :_paranoid

[GregWeld]

You're right Greg - my point in including it at all was (a) the new chassis is really, really cool and (IMHO) better engineered than the one that is in this post (an offset cell - really?) and (b) there are some pretty basic similarities in the front end styling and while the car in this post does not carry that theme through the car, Tyler's design did (ie the rockers and the front air damn were on the same plane) and (c) it was kind of a free plug since it's for sale (:D ). But you're right, at this point it capabilities are all supposition and until it is done it's not in the running.

So... let's get Penny and MotiV8R and Carl together and settle this thing right now! The 2010 Baddest 1968 Camaro in the Universe Street Car Invitational (?) :cheers:


James -- Thanks for seeing me eye to eye... :rofl:

Okay -- Now on to Larry's MotiV8R.... After his "excursion" at Pahrump.... you really think he's EVER going to track that car again? I'm thinking that car
gets packed in cotton balls and never hits red line again.

Penny is just flat bad to the bone... does it all really well - and looks good... and with Steve's new motor it will do it even better... I would hope.
:thumbsup:

[Steve1968LS2]

While I REALLY appreciate the amount of fab work in this car I have to wonder if it will ever go near a track or any sort of driving venue. If it doesn't then that's sort of sad.

I'm also not sure if the look of the car works well with the parts that are in it.. I feel it needed to be a little less blingy and a bit more angry looking.

That said I think some of the fab work on that car is crazy cool and there must be a bazillion hours invested. Would die to have some of those features on my car.

Very cool.

[GregWeld]

@ Pokey


I got that same Nigerian email -- they wired me 40 million bucks...

You had to be the first guy in that pyramid!

:wow: :rofl:

[jmac]

You guys can make fun of this person's english, but you have to admit that he has more talent than 97% of the members on this board, including myself.

Obviously there is some sort of language barrier here, but I think he gets his point accross well.

The car is definitely cool, not my cup of tea, but you have to admit the fabrication work is outstanding.

[ironworks]

I like the build pics WWWWWAAAAAAYYYYYY better then the end product. But who builds a square tube race car, Think of how much unneeded weight that car has.

It is an honor to think Tyler's 50/50 Car would even be thought about in the "Best of the Universe" contest. But Greg, Just to be clear 50/50 has come a million miles from the abortion that some body put under that car however many years ago. That particular chassis ranks high on a whole other list of mine. :D

[Steve1968LS2]

So... let's get Penny and MotiV8R and Carl together and settle this thing right now! The 2010 Baddest 1968 Camaro in the Universe Street Car Invitational (?) :cheers:

I'm in... just let me get that new 440 installed.. lol

What other "cool" 68s are out there? Velocity over at Ridetech is pretty badass.. I know I'm missing some.

I would run against this car.. after all I have nothing to lose. lol

If I win it's "Hey, I beat a million $$$$ Camaro!"
If I lose then it's "Hey, what do you expect, the guy had a million $$$$ Camaro!"

:)

[Steve1968LS2]

I like the build pics WWWWWAAAAAAYYYYYY better then the end product. But who builds a square tube race car, Think of how much unneeded weight that car has.


That was my thought.. I kept getting more excited as I went through the pics until I got to the end and was sort of let down (Except the interior which was nice).. the exterior just doesn't mesh with what lies beneath. The guy who built it is a genious at fabrication, but he should have hire a designer for the overall look.

Someone needs to buy and finish 50/50.. that's for sure.

[GregWeld]

I like the build pics WWWWWAAAAAAYYYYYY better then the end product. But who builds a square tube race car, Think of how much unneeded weight that car has.

It is an honor to think Tyler's 50/50 Car would even be thought about in the "Best of the Universe" contest. But Greg, Just to be clear 50/50 has come a million miles from the abortion that some body put under that car however many years ago. That particular chassis ranks high on a whole other list of mine. :D

Oh - I agree Rodger... it was the "inclusion" of this "build" that I was poking fun at... 'cause it's a long ways from entering any contests...

[Steve1968LS2]

They are running two sets of wheels (Kinesis and a Forgeline) depending on the day of the week, LOL.


So perhaps it's the best in the Milkyway on Mondays and transforms to the best of the Universe on Tuesday, LOL. :cheers:

Well that's good to hear.. the full polish wheels just don't do it.. the other ones are :drool: though...

[70rs]

It looks like Karma might be done this year. There is another one with a ton of performance potential in it. I think once it is dialed in and Anthony has a bit of seat time that it will be a real contender in the performance arena. And the build quality is also outstanding too!:cheers:

[Roger M]

Those might be Canadian dollars. It's actually not anywhere near that in US dollars

$1,000,000.00 CAD = $968,794.69 USD

[GregWeld]

:rofl: :rofl: Karma is in the running for the same competition 50/50 is up for...

Only it's in the lead by a paint job and a motor!

Loved the spread on his paint in the Camaro Performers mag...

[ironworks]

Oh - I agree Rodger... it was the "inclusion" of this "build" that I was poking fun at... 'cause it's a long ways from entering any contests...

Unless the contest is best use of tube in a chassis, you might be correct. :D

[70rs]

:rofl: :rofl: Karma is in the running for the same competition 50/50 is up for...

Only it's in the lead by a paint job and a motor!

Loved the spread on his paint in the Camaro Performers mag...

No, only that the performance of some of these cars was compared and I think that Karma will be/could be on par with these cars in that area. AFTER a complete shakedown and some serious tuning of both the car and the driver. My point was that Karma is right up ther in quality and possibly performace with the best of them. (obviously the performance has yet to be seen)

[GregWeld]

Those might be Canadian dollars. It's actually not anywhere near that in US dollars

$1,000,000.00 CAD = $968,794.69 USD

Roger --

No problem -- just take it to Barrett Jackson - and someone will pay twice that much... just to get face time with Amy.... or maybe "the screamer".

[dhutton]

You guys can make fun of this person's english, but you have to admit that he has more talent than 97% of the members on this board, including myself.

Obviously there is some sort of language barrier here, but I think he gets his point accross well.

The car is definitely cool, not my cup of tea, but you have to admit the fabrication work is outstanding.


The builder is French Canadian. His primary language is French. He writes better English than most of us could write French.

I agree, like it or not he has some top notch fab skills.

Don

[jmac]

What about Vinny's 68?

http://www.pro-touring.com/forum/showthread.php?t=61349&highlight=VINNY%27S

http://www.pro-touring.com/forum/showthread.php?t=43420&highlight=VINNY%27S

I love this car, cause it's a big block!
And it seems to perform pretty well!

[GregWeld]

The builder is French Canadian. His primary language is French. He writes better English than most of us could write French.

I agree, like it or not he has some top notch fab skills.

Don

Yep - I don't care if he speaks Nigerian or Swahili -- he built some kool stuff.

Agree with some other posters here though - would be way mo' betta if there was some track times to go with the build... Otherwise it's just an exercise in "because I can".

[Roger M]

OK. All this talk about the Baddest 68 Camaro in the UNIVERSE got me to search. Here is the top 68 Camaro image that came up.

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n46/jake4991/1968_Camaro.jpg

Now, If you just search Baddest 68 Camaro (without Universe), you will see Steve's car on the top row. :thumbsup:
http://images.google.com/images?q=baddest%2068%20camaro&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi

[Al Moreno]

[QUOTE=72tunaboa;259430]OK. All this talk about the Baddest 68 Camaro in the UNIVERSE got me to search. Here is the top 68 Camaro image that came up.

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n46/jake4991/1968_Camaro.jpg

LOL:lol:

[Steve1968LS2]

What about Vinny's 68?

http://www.pro-touring.com/forum/showthread.php?t=61349&highlight=VINNY%27S

http://www.pro-touring.com/forum/showthread.php?t=43420&highlight=VINNY%27S

I love this car, cause it's a big block!
And it seems to perform pretty well!

I knew I was forgetting one.. yea, that would be on my "baddest 68 Camaro" list

[CarlC]

I'm in... just let me get that new 440 installed.. lol

What other "cool" 68s are out there? Velocity over at Ridetech is pretty badass.. I know I'm missing some.

I would run against this car.. after all I have nothing to lose. lol

If I win it's "Hey, I beat a million $$$$ Camaro!"
If I lose then it's "Hey, what do you expect, the guy had a million $$$$ Camaro!"

:)

I'd still be bringing a trowel to a gunfight, and loving every minute of it. Thanks for the invite James. Put some blue tape over your windwings and we'll count yours as a '68 too. Just let us know when and where!

To each his own on builds like this. The fabrication and ideas on this project are great. Even if there are things that you don't like, there are lots of cool ideas that we could find ways to incorporate. Are there things I would change? Yes, but that may not fit what the owner of this car wanted. Sometimes appearances are forced to change or be out of sync due to the drivetrain requirements of the car.

[Steve1968LS2]

I'd still be bringing a trowel to a gunfight, and loving every minute of it. Thanks for the invite James. Put some blue tape over your windwings and we'll count yours as a '68 too. Just let us know when and where!

To each his own on builds like this. The fabrication and ideas on this project are great. Even if there are things that you don't like, there are lots of cool ideas that we could find ways to incorporate. Are there things I would change? Yes, but that may not fit what the owner of this car wanted. Sometimes appearances are forced to change or be out of sync due to the drivetrain requirements of the car.

And I could invite someone like Boris Said to drive all the cars just to make it fair... (I lost the Stig's number)...

[Young Gun]

Are you familiar with rod ends? They can pivot freely inside the race, instead of the pivoting around a trunnion they are using the ball as the pivot. Works fine as long as you stay within the limited amount of misalignment for the given rod end.

Awesome, thats the answer I was looking for!

[DFRESH]

This car had me at "All aluminum BBC dry sump". I choose to overlook the hideous wing because of this.

[MarkM66]

It's definitely has the right moves to make it the baddest.

I'd like to know the aerodynamic specs. It might be the only first gen to not produce front lift.

http://www.camaro-untoldsecrets.com/articles/article_fs.htm

[68protouring454]

I like the build pics WWWWWAAAAAAYYYYYY better then the end product. But who builds a square tube race car, Think of how much unneeded weight that car has.

It is an honor to think Tyler's 50/50 Car would even be thought about in the "Best of the Universe" contest. But Greg, Just to be clear 50/50 has come a million miles from the abortion that some body put under that car however many years ago. That particular chassis ranks high on a whole other list of mine. :D
lots build from square. just about every trans am car is more square tube(main chassis rails etc) then round, also Lg's gt cars have alot of square in them as well.
it maybe uneeded weight, but there are limits to amount of lead etc that can be used, and weight can be good when its used in the middle of the car low to the ground between the wheels.

[rwhite692]

As to the fuel cell being offset to the pass. side, I don't see a big problem with that, since the intent may be to offset the effect of driver position/weight. Plus the oil tank is next to it so the combined weight of the two may be pretty well centered on the car, anyway.

The wing is indeed hideous looking, but may be quite functional depending on the intended use of the car. Full belly pan, QC rear, etc...the intent of the build sure seems to be to do some sustained high speed running, as in 200+....of course he will need the right tires for that but he may have them for all we know.

It would indeed be great if the builder/owner could get on here and explain his intentions for the car. Quite an impressive build.

[James OLC]

It's definitely has the right moves to make it the baddest.

I'd like to know the aerodynamic specs. It might be the only first gen to not produce front lift.

http://www.camaro-untoldsecrets.com/articles/article_fs.htm

Maybe the only '68 not to produce front lift...

[californiacuda]

Bob Johnson's Cuda sold for what a half mil. I don't think that its seen much track time, last I heard it broke an axle.

Beautiful, beautiful car. But it seems like it more of a work of art than a vehicle that's shown performance against other vehicles.

[byndbad914]

I like the build pics WWWWWAAAAAAYYYYYY better then the end product. But who builds a square tube race car, Think of how much unneeded weight that car has.
:lol: started that discussion in another thread - actual engineering is a bit lost on some to understand design v. weight, they just think size v. stiffness and 2" round bar is not as good as 2x2 box... yeah, if you're working for Massey-Ferguson then have at it.

It's okay tho', just means we'll be lighter and faster than the competition :rofl: If everyone were smart as hell there would be no fast food servers, and I loves me some burgers and fries on my way home from work.

As for much of the "real" race cars that use square tube, you have to consider the size of the tubing, the location in the vehicle, and why they are using that shape for ease of use with other components... there is a time/place when square tube is fine of course and can be much easier to work with. Look at the new C6Rs for instance and where there is round bar and where there is square.

As to the car starting this thread, there are some ideas I can see he has incorporated that I have planned to use on my next venture with a 70 Mustang and I am sorta surprised to see I was a bit beat to the punch but nonetheless I think this car is pretty cool, especially some of the work with the front uprights and overall adjust-ability that often gets overlooked.

[byndbad914]

Very cool car....found their garage on the Hub. Lots of pix

http://www.hubgarage.com/mygarage/belou/vehicles/43081
thanks for posting that link BTW! Ver' nize. :thumbsup:

[ProTouring442]

I remember reading the rules of the board, and I did not see anywhere in there that said, I must post pics of my work, before making "negative" comments on someone elses car.

Simmer down, It's just my opinion. Jeez, I guess no one around here is ever allowed to make a comment that doesn't follow the status quo. And I said nothing about the build quality of the rest of the build, so please do not put words in my mouth. I commented on one single thing.

And to your other point, what has what I built or NOT built have to do with just giving an opinion on something someone else posts on the internet? And I suppose he posted his car to get some opinions, and quite possibly knowing that not everything he did is what everyone else would like. We are all supposed to be grown up, and taking some nobody's critque should be easy.

I believe the problem might not be in the fact that you gave your opinion, but rather in the way that you gave it. There is a very large difference between saying someone's wife looks like a bucket of ugly thrown on a pile of fat, and saying that she isn't your type.

Happy New Year!
Bill

[sniper]

I believe the problem might not be in the fact that you gave your opinion, but rather in the way that you gave it. There is a very large difference between saying someone's wife looks like a bucket of ugly thrown on a pile of fat, and saying that she isn't your type.

Happy New Year!
Bill

I removed my post in order to keep this thread on track. But thank you for your input.

[MarkM66]

Maybe the only '68 not to produce front lift...

Tell us... :)