Hydraulic Clutch in 69 Camaro

[Gregster1234]

Anyone here have a custom bracket to mount a Wildwood clutch master cylinder to the firewall on a 69 Camaro, or experience doing this that wants to share their info, the reason I ask is I found a kit that has the slave and bracket for the TKO 600 that actuates the clutch fork so the only fabbing that I see is the master cylinder to firewall and hooking the heim joint to the clutch pedal. The cool thing I think about this kit is that you could convert without having to remove anything and get the benefits in the same manner as the hydraulic throwout bearing, also not having to deal with a hydraulic bearing failure and replacing. This could be done for half of what other kits sell for!

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[Payton King]

one that uses the wilwood master and mounts to the firewall. They are out of Knoxville, Tn.

[Gregster1234]

I know but the whole point of this thread is to make your own bracket and have half the cost of their kit.

[Payton King]

The angle is 23 degrees. Fab away

[Fluid Power]

looks like a nice kit with all thread for a push rod :rolleyes:

Darren

[Gregster1234]

I actually found a bracket for the clutch master cylinder from DSE that gives you the correct angle. This DSE bracket mounts the GM hydraulic clutch master cylinder to the firewall of the 1967-1969 Camaro/Firebirds, and it's only $25.00. The one image shows how it looks welded to the firewall but is not necessary. What I was wondering is if you can use the master cylinder and resevoir and line from a 98-02 camaro hydraulic setup and attach this slave kit for the TKO. Anyone have an idea on this?

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[Payton King]

If you will notice on the clutch master mounting pad on the GM unit pictured is at an angle thus the bend in the bracket to get the correct geometry.

If you are using a master that mounts flat it will not work. Not to be an ass but if you have the skills to make your own. It should be as easy as mocking it up to get the correct pedal ratio and angle and make a bracket.

I would suggest you get the keisler piece if you want to run a wilwood or tilton master. The DSE piece if you are using stock GM.

[Gregster1234]

Payton,
Thanks for your input. I am just trying to save some money any where I can. It just seems like everyone on here is fabbing stuff up so I figured why not use stuff already available with the exception of maybe a simple bracket or heim joint, etc. So if I used the GM master and the DSE bracket it should be correct on the angle since this is what it is made for correct? And then for the line off of the GM master to the slave I would have to see what is available and how it hooks up-AN thread or metric I would assume for the fluid line to the slave cylinder. Also do you think the GM is very good being that it is plastic as the Wilwood is metal? I know they have been in use for a number of years so that probably is a mute point!
Thanks again,
Greg

[Payton King]

That is what i am running along with most everyone else running a T56.

Is the picture you posted up your trans and bellhousing? What is it and what is it out of?

Depending on what clutch and pressure plate you use, they take different size masters. The GM piece is a 7/8 bore and works with most stuff. I think the Mcleod stuff works better with a 1 inch bore. You will need to check with the clutch manufacture for their recs.

If you do use a GM master it will need to be modified.

What is this going into

[Gregster1234]

The pic with the slave is of a TKO 600 for a Ford, it has a 7/8" bore, so the slave and bracket would fit onto the TKO 600 for my 69 Camaro. I have a TKO 600 in a 69 Camaro BBC with a 11 inch clutch & Lakewood scattershield using a factory mechanical setup.

[Payton King]

as well, but I have learned if someone makes a part and it is proven...buy it and bolt it on. There are plenty of other opportunities to fab stuff in other places.

If it were mine, take my opinion for how much you paid for it, I would use a hydraulic throw out bearing instead. I know a couple of companies make a complete system for that transmission and car application. I think you will be happier even if it costs more than you wanted to spend.

Good luck on your project and post up some pictures

[Gregster1234]

I am thinking your are correct in using a Hydraulic bearing, it seems like it might be easier to setup.
Thanks again,
Greg