Carbon Fiber 69 Camaros

[camcojb]

http://www.evolutionmusclecars.com/

Holy crap! At 2400 pounds and a turbo LSX if it does what they claim with air management these things will be crazy!

http://www.evolutionmusclecars.com/images/SixtynineRSS-1-750x500.jpg

Jody

[slck6t9]

HOLY CRAP is an understatement. Man I love the street version look.

Scott

[Smack_talker]

wow...how expensive is that car gunna be??? I hope nobody runs into it. :eek:

[awr68]

I like it!!! Not too fond of the wing on the RSR though....

[almcbri]

I love everything about that car except the grill. good stuff

[XcYZ]

Wicked, but I think we need more info. :yes:

[ProdigyCustoms]

Considering a funny car body is $40,000 to $50,000, I suspect many will go limp when we get pricing. The real question will be why do one of these instead of a Ultima, or other ?

[Autokraft]

Like Scott said, more info would be great here. Are they building a limited production, one off's, or what's the deal? They look cool (without the ricer wing) though.

Kurt



www.autokraft.org

[907rs]

They'll be a handfull for sure. :thumbsup:

[MarkM66]

The real question will be why do one of these instead of a Ultima, or other ?

Why build a '69 Camaro style car instead of an Ultima?

I would guess some prefer the style of a '69 over an Ultima. I prefer the style of a 1st gen Camaro 10 fold over an Ultima.

[Q-ship]

wow...how expensive is that car gunna be??? I hope nobody runs into it. :eek:
Well, TC Kline (http://www.tcklineracing.com/roadster.htm) is rumored to be introducing the roadster for 90k. The Camaro body will be cool if it ever gets past the "vaporware" stage.

[kennyd]

jason rushforth designed this car , i will email him and tell him to put some info up for you.

[Steve1968LS2]

jason rushforth designed this car , i will email him and tell him to put some info up for you.

I need to run something in Speed Reading on this.. pretty cool about the CF body..

[XcYZ]

Kurt, I'm guessing since the rest of the car is 100% business, I'm sure the wing is functional. It has that SCCA World Challenge look to it.

I wonder what a chassis/body or a roller would cost?

[Arca500]

Like Scott said, more info would be great here. Are they building a limited production, one off's, or what's the deal? They look cool (without the ricer wing) though.

Kurt



www.autokraft.org

Ricer wing? Does the Le Mans winning C6R look ricey? The power to weight ratio that they advertise, with what looks to be improved aero, should do well in excess of 200 mph. I'd like a little more down force than a Camaro trunk spoiler at those speeds...wouldn't you?

[67Sally]

Wicked, but I think we need more info. :yes:

I am pretty sure that John Parsons has talked to them.
W.

[Fluid Power]

The shop that built the CF BMW is a customer of mine. I have been watching them build the molds for that thing for a while! The shop that does the CF work is a pretty cool place with tons of destroyed race car parts waiting to get repaired. They do a lot of carbon work for Rahal, Michael Shank racing, some IMSA teams and of course, TC Kline!

Darren

[Autokraft]

Ricer wing? Does the Le Mans winning C6R look ricey? The power to weight ratio that they advertise, with what looks to be improved aero, should do well in excess of 200 mph. I'd like a little more down force than a Camaro trunk spoiler at those speeds...wouldn't you?


Arca500,

What I meant was that I like the look of the street version (no wing) over the race version (with wing) Obviously it's on there for a reason and I understand that but I really like the "clean look" so sorry for any misunderstanding.

Kurt

[Ricochet]

Killer looking top to bottom. I like the street version best. Jason did an awesome job with the renderings. Very striking color combo, I like it.

[TravisB]

I'm sure Jason will be on this morning...Here is what I know about them....yes there is two versions both will be wind tunnel tested to 240mph..which is why the race version needs the wing. They will be available as rollers but pricing has not been established yet. I have heard the first one should be out around columbus...The drawings for this car do look awesome and the green and silver look great together...nice job Jason :hail:

[JayR]

Thanks for the interest and compliments guys. Nice to see our hard work appreciated! Right now, our PR firm has us muzzled but they will be updating the site regularly so please check back and we will announce when there's something to announce.
I can tell you that the project is very real and the car will back up the looks!

Thanks, Jason

[Solly]

Yes, the wing is a functional necessity, as the full race version has an estimated top speed in excess of 250 mph. At that speed you'll appreciate the extra downforce.

Dr. Steven Solomon
Evolution Musclecars, LLC

[XcYZ]

Thanks for stopping by our website. I'm looking forward to seeing more, the description/outline sounds incredible.

[Musclerodz]

That is wicked looking. I could probably afford the Factory Five supercar kit before I could afford a carbon fiber 69 though.

Mike

[Mean 69]

I recall seeing them on the booth roster at SEMA a few months back, when I was getting the booth for our deal. They were in the same tent, just a couple isles down, didn't know too much about them.

This will raise the whole "how do you get the darned thing titled" discussion again. I really wish someone could solve this issue in California, there are a lot of really cool ideas for cars like this that become far too difficult to pull off due to the laws. There is a guy close to use that has a full-on 65 Corvette Coupe body mold, I saw one of the finished bodies, it was amazingly tought, like crazy strong. It was a composite, not sure if it was kevlar, or what, but it would be IDEAL for a street rod. I'd guess the price wouldn't be ridiculous, especially what they ask for replacement early Corvette panels.

Anyone think this hobby is going to dry up? It is just getting saturated by new, cool things, but there is so much now, I wonder if demand will keep pace?

Mark

[Payton King]

How close are the CF panels to stock? In other words, could you bolt on say the doors, hood, deck lid or even the entire front cap on an existing 69.

Just thinking

If so, will they be made in any material other than CF?

[TravisB]

How close are the CF panels to stock? In other words, could you bolt on say the doors, hood, deck lid or even the entire front cap on an existing 69.

Just thinking

If so, will they be made in any material other than CF?

I do know they have done some extensive body mods in the roof area and front end...sectioning here and there as needed so my guess would be no the would not be interchangeable....however if the would make say the decklid and hood to facory demensions they could sell a ton of them!

[Damn True]

Super bitchin!

[Tom Fuehrer]

I love the concept - the side image of the Yellow car is my new desktop.

Jay, as a side product have you thought of a front lower valence in this same style that could bolt on to a stock body? There are a several '69 Camaros out there that could use a effective splitter that doesn't look like it came from a dirt track car.

PrododigyCustoms Wrote: "Considering a funny car body is $40,000 to $50,000, I suspect many will go limp when we get pricing. The real question will be why do one of these instead of a Ultima, or other ?"

How about a combination of both? Anybody remember the Mercedes CLK GTR? They took the Mercedes sedan body and kind-of morphed it into a mid-engined car. Take the green-house area of a '69, shift it forward on a much-channeled body (complete with the '69 fender details). A laid back RS grill. A short "hood" with the cowl induction hump in the center. The rear engine cover would need the '69 SS hood "Stacks" right above the C5R motor. Kris Horton - got some spare time to draw this?

I'm only a dollar and 6 power ball numbers away from building one :-)

Tom Fuehrer

[TravisB]

I love the concept - the side image of the Yellow car is my new desktop.

Jay, as a side product have you thought of a front lower valence in this same style that could bolt on to a stock body? There are a several '69 Camaros out there that could use a effective splitter that doesn't look like it came from a dirt track car.

PrododigyCustoms Wrote: "Considering a funny car body is $40,000 to $50,000, I suspect many will go limp when we get pricing. The real question will be why do one of these instead of a Ultima, or other ?"

How about a combination of both? Anybody remember the Mercedes CLK GTR? They took the Mercedes sedan body and kind-of morphed it into a mid-engined car. Take the green-house area of a '69, shift it forward on a much-channeled body (complete with the '69 fender details). A laid back RS grill. A short "hood" with the cowl induction hump in the center. The rear engine cover would need the '69 SS hood "Stacks" right above the C5R motor. Kris Horton - got some spare time to draw this?

I'm only a dollar and 6 power ball numbers away from building one :-)

Tom Fuehrer


you do know that jay- is jason rushforth the desinger of this project, asking horton to draw something similar probably won't go over to well

[Kris Horton]

Sounds fun...but no time right now. We'll see.... ;) I actually did two mid-engine Ultima style cars a few years back. They both came out pretty nice, considering they're not really my cup of tea.

Someone drew up a concept of a C5 Corvette with a shifted greenhouse and mid-engine setup. Didn't look as good as it sounded...I'm sure with some serious effort it could work though.

Kris

[Tom Fuehrer]

you do know that jay- is jason rushforth the desinger of this project, asking horton to draw something similar probably won't go over to well

Well I do now!! Thanks for pointing that out Travis.

My apologies to Jason.

Since I can't draw anything without graph paper I really admire the artwork that Jason and Kris produce.

Tom

[TravisB]

Well I do now!! Thanks for pointing that out Travis.

My apologies to Jason.

Since I can't draw anything without graph paper I really admire the artwork that Jason and Kris produce.

Tom

no biggie just wanted to make sure you knew.....Solly is actually the one building the cars. I to admire there work!

[Diognes56]

Sweet, to rich for my student blood, but still very sweet. All I am think is cammed LS7 with a paddle shifted 6L80E :drool: .

David

[JayR]

Well I do now!! Thanks for pointing that out Travis.

My apologies to Jason.

Since I can't draw anything without graph paper I really admire the artwork that Jason and Kris produce.

Tom

No Worries Tom. Thanks for clearing that up Travis.
I know what you're saying and that Mercedes was cool but it wasn't a musclecar in the sense that this car is and that's what we were after.
There's lots of "supercars" with motors in front and this car will do just fine in every sense.

[Solly]

Taking a classic American muscle car and morphing it into a mid-engine design using most of the mechanicals has already been done. It's called a Mosler, and is basically a mid-engined Corvette under a very pretty skin.

Some of our panels will fit stock Camaros, some won't. This car is built around a tube frame chassis.

We plan on opening a second composite shop sometime in 2006, to manufactire CF/Kevlar body parts for some race teams who have requested them, along with anyone else who would like some. Our main composite shop is too busy getting our cars completed to do anything else right now. We could certainly manufacture composite parts for stock Camaros if there was sufficient demand.

Dr. Steven Solomon
Evolution Musclecars, LLC

[ProdigyCustoms]

Any pricing zone? Target? Zip Code? Are you looking to come in at $10,000? $50,000? $100,000? For a roller? I only ask because I have been asked by a customer. Surely you have some target?

[Blown353]

I know some of the info is probably proprietary and you don't want to share but I'm wondering two things about the bodies, since I work with composites for the space industry on a daily basis:

1: Resin infusion or prepreg?
2. Cured via autoclave or vacuum-only/oven?

The questions are process related more than anything else, as with the vehicle being tube framed I don't expect the body is seeing any structural loads except aerodynamic loading.

The renderings look fantastic, can't wait to see the final product. I would sell my car (less drivetrain) for one of those if the end product lives up to promises and expectations.

Troy