Need some help with next project.

[TreySmith]

Well, I sold my 80 Trans Am so I am itching to get another project going. I have two 69 Fastbacks, but I am not sure which one I should pick, I am hoping I can find a way to get both up here and piece each together into one. The primer car has V8 suspension and the green one doesn't. I think there could be some stuff hiding under the primer too, but the quarters look nice inside and out, it's just the tail panels and nose that need work. Each car only has a small amount of quarter panel rust , corner of doors and some floor pan rust. Should all be an easy fix. Haven't checked the frame rails yet.

The green car was hit in the right quarter and they started to fix it. A full quarter should do the trick and I am confident in welding.

I am just curious which car you guys would choose as a base. I am leaning towards the green car. I think it would be kinda cool driving it around as is like a rat rod. My plans are to blast the engine bay, paint it and the same for the suspension. Then blast the interior and rhino line the inside and underside before paint. . Anyone have any opinions on this? Also want to put 05+ interior in.

My next question is what engine should I got with? Our pick a part has tons of engines for like $200. I guess a 302 or 351 would do the trick. Is there any years that are better than the others? What year motor/tranny can I pull out and have a close fit? I plan on just pulling a 351 and hopefully a 4 speed out of an old Ford Truck.

I want something comparable to my 99 Trans Am, so 300-325rwhp should be fine, which engine would do the trick and still be efficient and road friendly?

Thanks in advance for the help guys, just trying to get my ducks in a row before I start these.

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[almcbri]

Hard to tell the condition of either one of the cars without looking real deep. I would pull them both out of the grass and figure out which panels are in the best shape and pull those to make one. Just by the pictures, the green car looks a little better.

[TreySmith]

Yeah, my sister's husband has a tractor so I will pull them out a little bit next time I go.

Anyone know anything about the Ford engines? I am shooting for a 351 but I really don't know what is better than what.

[nvr2fst]

Trey, which ever you chose you have your hands full. Looks like a hell of alot more work than the TA was. Good Luck

[GregWeld]

Trey, which ever you chose you have your hands full. Looks like a hell of alot more work than the TA was. Good Luck

Nothing a hundred grand and a three years worth of work can't fix!! LOL

Trey -- Remember the cardinal rule of hot rodding and engines. "There's no substitute for cubic inches".

More cubic inches makes more power with less fuss... 300 hp from a 351 is a cake walk.

[DFRESH]

[QUOTE=GregWeld;250116]Nothing a hundred grand and a three years worth of work can't fix!! LOL


:lol:

Doug

[TreySmith]

You guys are so reassuring! :willy: :rofl:

[Vegas69]

Out of your mind....

[Flash68]

Cash for Clunkers?
















Kidding. :D

[tgvettes]

a stroker 351 windsor (408) and you should have any horsepower you want.

Looks like great projects, I'm basically a Chevy guy but I do love the 69-70 Mustang Fastback. One day I'll have one.

Tonny

[caper150]

Well, I sold my 80 Trans Am

Well I guess thats why I hadn't seen any updates lately, you were dong good on it too, why did you sell, offer to good to refuse? I'd do the primer one and send the green one to me:D

[tones2SS]

Nothing a hundred grand and a three years worth of work can't fix!! LOL

Very true Greg!!!
These cars give new meaning to the word, "Rustang"!!
They both look like a ton of work. Good luck!:thumbsup:

[TreySmith]

Well I guess thats why I hadn't seen any updates lately, you were dong good on it too, why did you sell, offer to good to refuse? I'd do the primer one and send the green one to me:DYeah, just kinda got tired of it I guess. The car was done half ass so I wanted to build another car the right way. Really though I just needed another daily driver, I have always wanted an LS1 car so I figured it was now or never, plus I made ALOT of money off the car. Something broke on it today when I was messing around with my friend so hopefully it won't be a big fix and put the Mustang on hold...


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[TreySmith]

So 351's are a pain in the ass to find. I found a ton of untouched 302's out of 89 or so Crown vics and such. Would it be a hard task to make it work with what I have? It's only $150.

[jeff s]

we offer full frames for mustangs.

[TreySmith]

Anyone know how to get a title the easiest? I found a 70 fastback for like $1250 in nice shape plus I am going to put his other car together for him, so basically a labor trade. BUT it doesn't have a title, how should I check the VIN? Run it by the police station?

[70rs]

Police station, insurance agent (maybe), department of lic, ??

[GregWeld]

Anyone know how to get a title the easiest? I found a 70 fastback for like $1250 in nice shape plus I am going to put his other car together for him, so basically a labor trade. BUT it doesn't have a title, how should I check the VIN? Run it by the police station?

I'd take the VIN - and the seller - to the Department of Motor Vehicles - have them run a title check - and if it comes back "clean" no liens - you can apply for a lost title (if it's in the name of the current "seller") -- or at least you can find out who is on the title and try to find them...

[TreySmith]

The owner before him lost the title, I guess I could go through him.

[GregWeld]

Well -- You get into the "possession is 9/10ths of the law" -- the current "guy" has possession - depends on how long - and if he can PROVE he's had it that long - does he have some paperwork - like a bill of sale from the title holder...
is the current title holder "around" so he could give you an affidavit stating that the title is lost and that he's willing to transfer title to you etc.

It's messy - but can be done - you'll just have to make a couple trips to your DMV to see what you need.

[TreySmith]

I asked him about it yesterday and he said he has actually already started on getting the title. Does it actually take 6 months? I probably wouldn't even own the car that long lol.

[TreySmith]

Here are some plans I have for the car. Anyone know what kind of rims these are? They are on the KITT car and I photoshopped them onto a 69'.. I think they look great. I am probably not going to go with red though...

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[mexMan]

Those are Ford Special Vehicle Team wheels, or SVT's if you will, they're on the Shelby SuperSnake and other special versions, like the Shelby Convetribles

[TreySmith]

Thanks, but I think the rims will be out of the budget for now at $550 a piece. Probably just stick with some TT2's for the time being.

[mexMan]

OR, there's an option, it will be kinda hard but it always work, look for a screwed up past generation Shelby KR, they have those wheels you want. I've seen them in another car but can't remember where, but I'm sure the KR wears them.

[TreySmith]

I think 20's would be a little crazy on the front so they won't work. Anyways here is the car I am gonna get, what do you guys think for $1500?

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[mexMan]

PURRFECT! But engine pics or didn't happen.

[TreySmith]

Lol sure thing, it was in the shop so I could only look through the window. Looks really nice though.

[mexMan]

Yeah, it looks pretty much complete, now, the photoshop you did with the KR wheels, is that your final result idea?

[TreySmith]

I am not sure, I really don't want another red car but that's probably what it's going to end up being, I might go with black or some type of blue though. I can't decide lol..

But most likely like this except bigger rims. There aren't very many pro touring 69/70 Mustang's so I can't really make a decision.

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[GregWeld]

Trey -- I'd rather have the frame table!!

LOL

:rofl:

[TreySmith]

Trey -- I'd rather have the frame table!!

LOL

:rofl:Lol it matches the car! Classy red paint and black stripe. Maybe I can get it as a package deal :D


Do you guys think putting on a 69 Tail and side scoops would hurt the value of this car?

I really like the look of the Blacked Mustang from Year One and probably will shoot for that except for a little more chrome to break up the black.

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[mexMan]

@GergWeld: there's something VEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERY wrong about you :p
(though it looks like a really good frame table)

@Trey, there's never too much red, BUT you could try doing something original, but there aren't anymore original ideas, so being that hard, you'll have to innovate if you want to achieve something unique, so, what I'd do is paint it olive green, give it a stock look, but with some inches less, kinda big wheels (kinda, not too big) and a modern-retro interior. Now that'd be expensive, so, I don't know.

[GregWeld]

:rofl: :rofl: ^^^^^^^

I've never seen a tool I didn't want!!
:cheers:

[mexMan]

^Any tools that you CAN use? :rolleyes: kidding kiddo :p What do I know, I'm 17

[TreySmith]

Here are some pics.. I think it will be a fun driver. Going to definitely need some new quarters though and a trunk lid. I could maybe save the left door but it's kinda bad. The car was really nice underneath and in the engine bay, just alot of surface rust and grime. The rear floors looked good and so did the passengers, the drivers had a spot up by the feet that was all the way through. The trunk looked good but the trunk lid was too far gone.

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[TreySmith]

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[GregWeld]

Trey --

Even if you get that car FREE... that is a very EXPENSIVE car...


:wow: :thumbsup:

[mexMan]

^Greg, 'Stangs are never too expensive ;)

[TreySmith]

Trey --

Even if you get that car FREE... that is a very EXPENSIVE car...


:wow: :thumbsup:I think this will be a cruiser/ daily driver to keep the miles off my 99 Trans Am.. Prolly going to just going to fix the floors, restore the engine bay, put on some rims and restore the interior, then drive it for a while and sell it. It will make a cool rat rod for sure.

[GregWeld]

Good plan Trey --

I'm not trying to put the car down - or you - or make fun of it or anything like that... just being "realistic" == and realistically there's not much that doesn't need a re-do on that car... and that means $$....

Tell you what... a RAT ROD is my next build when I finish the '37! I L O V E them! You can do with ingenuity what you can't do with big $$'s and it can be a total "buddy project". That is - with a bunch of buddies sitting around on Sunday afternoon -- you can come up with "parts" -- ideas -- and many 'hands' helping. It can still be built to be reliable and go anywhere!:cheers:

[TreySmith]

Good plan Trey --

I'm not trying to put the car down - or you - or make fun of it or anything like that... just being "realistic" == and realistically there's not much that doesn't need a re-do on that car... and that means $$....

Tell you what... a RAT ROD is my next build when I finish the '37! I L O V E them! You can do with ingenuity what you can't do with big $$'s and it can be a total "buddy project". That is - with a bunch of buddies sitting around on Sunday afternoon -- you can come up with "parts" -- ideas -- and many 'hands' helping. It can still be built to be reliable and go anywhere!:cheers:Greg, we all know what happens when you and your buddy's get together on a Sunday afternoon. You are all gonna wake up Monday morning in the front yard tripping over beer cans scrambling to get to work. :lol: :cheers:

[DRJDVM's '69]

After seeing the detailed pix of the red car...... I think I'd rather have the frame table too :)

That car will not be a basic resto and drive it.....that car needs alot of work to be even decent.....and safe

If you want a quick "fixer upper" and drive and sell.... that car aint it.

[TreySmith]

He called me today and said he sold his 67 Mustang that I was going to work on, so he said he will just take $1500 and call it even, then another $200 when the title comes in. All the bushings looked good so if the brakes look good it will be safe. For $1700 it's a great car and should be fun.

[70rs]

He called me today and said he sold his 67 Mustang that I was going to work on, so he said he will just take $1500 and call it even, then another $200 when the title comes in. All the bushings looked good so if the brakes look good it will be safe. For $1700 it's a great car and should be fun.

Another 200 when the title comes in? How well do you know this guy? How about he waits to take ANY of your money until the title comes in? :_paranoid

Or 200 now and the 1500 when you have the title in your hand? If he is serious and honest he will not have any problem doing this. No matter who it is. Even best friends have been separated by car deals gone bad.

[TreySmith]

Yeah I know, not really sure how that is gonna work. Thinking about maybe giving him $500 or something and the rest when the title comes.

Is there any sort of truly legal bill of sale?

[70rs]

Yeah I know, not really sure how that is gonna work. Thinking about maybe giving him $500 or something and the rest when the title comes.

Is there any sort of truly legal bill of sale?

You need the title in hand Trey. It is the only real way to cover your butt and loss of money. Was the car registered to the current owner? Can he provide proof of that?
The BEST thing you can do is not give him ANY money until he provides the title. Or if he refuses to hold the car for you then I would only offer at a MAXIMUM 100-150 bucks to have him hold it. If he really wants to sell it to you then he will work with you. You have NOTHING without the actual title. And trying to get it through the state after the sale is a real pain in the a**. I would also be worried if the car was never titled in his name. How did he get it? Why doe he not have a title? If he was the legal owner on the last issued title then it only takes a few weeks to get a replacement. If he was never on the title then it can take forever, if they do re issue it at all to you. Ask him for a registration to prove he owned it. He should have an old one somewhere. It is always best to go the safe route in these things than just hand over some cash and hope for the best. There are other cars out there, don't get attached to it. It is only a car.

[TreySmith]

He told me that the previous owner lost the title and is looking for it but the guys isn't very responsible and doesn't handle his buisiness. He said he asks him regularly for the title and asked him to apply for a lost title and he always forgets to look for it or something so he went ahead and applied for a bonded title so either way he will end up with one.

I am still looking around for other cars though.

[70rs]

He told me that the previous owner lost the title and is looking for it but the guys isn't very responsible and doesn't handle his buisiness. He said he asks him regularly for the title and asked him to apply for a lost title and he always forgets to look for it or something so he went ahead and applied for a bonded title so either way he will end up with one.

I am still looking around for other cars though.

It does not sound like a good deal to get involved in unless he can show you a real title with his name on it. And make sure the VIN and other info matches too. I would hate to see you get taken advantage of just for trusting someone. Remember, this guy really only wants your money. Something is not right and if it were me I would walk away. When he has the title then great. What is a "bonded title"? How is that different than a standard title?

[DRJDVM's '69]

Walk away....or at the least, dont give the guy a dime until the title thing is all worked out. They always have some BS story before they rip you off...

[TreySmith]

It's just if you don't have a title, the state will issue one for you. It takes time because they have to research the car and make sure it's not stolen etc...

He just emailed me and said he has another buyer, I told him it was fine if he wanted to sell it to the other person. I kinda had a bad feeling about the car anyways not to mention all the stuff y'all said so this might be a good thing.

Been looking around for other cars, trying to find a 71 Cutlass or something cool like a old school jacked up Silverado or F250..

[70rs]

It's just if you don't have a title, the state will issue one for you. It takes time because they have to research the car and make sure it's not stolen etc...

He just emailed me and said he has another buyer, I told him it was fine if he wanted to sell it to the other person. I kinda had a bad feeling about the car anyways so this might be a good thing.

Better safe than sorry right? Was he trying to make you hurry up and give him money by telling you he had another buyer? That is a sure sign of something fishy going on. Like I said, he just wants the money and anyone that will hand it over can deal with the hassles. I am glad it's not you buddy!
:cheers:

[TreySmith]

Better safe than sorry right? Was he trying to make you hurry up and give him money by telling you he had another buyer? That is a sure sign of something fishy going on. Like I said, he just wants the money and anyone that will hand it over can deal with the hassles. I am glad it's not you buddy!
:cheers: Actually no, he said he got a good offer and wanted to give me a chance before he sold it, plus I didn't really have all my money straight so it's understandable.

[70rs]

Actually no, he said he got a good offer and wanted to give me a chance before he sold it, plus I didn't really have all my money straight so it's understandable.

Either way I think you are coming out on top of that deal. There will be others.:cheers:

[GregWeld]

Trey --

RUN from this car -- and don't look back. Cars are like busses -- there's another one coming by every 15 minutes. Unless you have lots of "re$ources" don't get tied up in a "no title" sale. That can take time and get complicated. It's not for the faint of heart unless you're working with a DEALER that is reputable.

Personally - I'm happy that you DID not get this car -- WAY too much work and too little to work with.

Just my .0000003 worth.

[TreySmith]

Yeah, plus I really wanted a 69 anyways, I am not a big fan of anything about the 70 Mustang. I am glad I missed out on it because I found a pretty sweet 71 Firebird with a 455 that runs, drives and has a title, I only have about $1500 so hopefully I can make it work.

[70rs]

Yeah, plus I really wanted a 69 anyways, I am not a big fan of anything about the 70 Mustang. I am glad I missed out on it because I found a pretty sweet 71 Firebird with a 455 that runs, drives and has a title, I only have about $1500 so hopefully I can make it work.

Now you're talking! Big block Poncho, second gen design, killer! Good luck with it. I hope it works out Trey! Have any pictures of it?:cheers:

[TreySmith]

I will get some up later, supposedly it's a SD455 poncho with a cam and was rebuilt before it sat.. So that means it has forged internals :thumbsup:...

[GregWeld]

See there Trey! My bus rule has already played itself out... hopefully in your favor.

[TreySmith]

What you guys think about this? $1600, has a "broken" motor but comes with a 307. Some rust in drivers floor and trunk.

It looks like an easy project aside from the motor, even looks like the A/C is there..

I was gonna shoot him an offer of $1000 or $1200 or something like that.

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[GregWeld]

Okay -- Some more "rules" from your uncle Greg...

It costs the same amount of money (sometimes MORE) and the same amount of time - to fix up a car... paint - motors - tires - wheels - interior etc.... Some cars are WORTH fixing because you can fix them and have a decent chance at getting your investment out (provided you stick to your plan etc)... and some cars you will NEVER get half what you put in them... THIS would be the latter.

If you cruise the "for sale" section here - many times you'll find "cast off" parts from a project - that would be great for someone such as yourself - (I'm assuming here that you're just starting off). The cast offs I refer to would be along the 67 - 69 Camaro lines - early Mustangs - Novas - etc... Many of the these parts would be interchangeable... or adaptable to a "custom" build. But I've never seen any parts offered for what you're looking at - nor are many of these parts interchangeable etc...

So I guess my point is --- that lets say we "all" took you under our wings - you know - a Lat G "kid".... and you posted on the Want to buy forum a list of parts you needed... and they were for a 66 Nova sbc with a 10 bolt rear... My guess is you'd find TONS of responses to your request... but not a single response if the request was for a 1981 Oldsmobile Toronado (pick any odd year and make).... Do you see what I'm saying?

So I'm not raggin on your "choice" -- if you have tons of dough -- tons of time -- and could care less what you end up with cause it's just a car you've ALWAYS wanted... and you finally found it! But if you're limited in budget - and time - and want to have something worth your effort when you're all said and done... Then I'd keep shopping for something that would be a whole lot easier to find parts for - and is real salable when you decide it's time.

[TreySmith]

That's kinda why I wanted everybody's opinion and yeah, I have noticed the same thing, but this car "looks" really nice. I checked Ebay and there are several cars with a good amount of bids on so they seem like they have interest. I think if I can get it for $1,200 I might go for it. Idk, kinda reminds me of my GTO, I bought it just because it was cheap and regretted it every day.

I DID find this though, I am going to go check it out tomorrow. I miss mine so much. He says the motor is locked up but I have another 301T from my old car still sitting out in the back yard. Plus it's got the good old second gen chassis everyone here loves. I talked him down to $2,000

Whatcha think Uncle Greg? I am gonna call you that from now on. :thumbsup:

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[whiplash911]

and i quote "gregweld" - that lets say we "all" took you under our wings - you know - a Lat G "kid"....

um (hand raised) .... how do i get that gig ??? beer and donuts ?? (aint i aint talking that lite beer sh#% either ) cover the stripper tab at sema next year ? um .... lets see what else i got ?? hmmmm ..... :cheers: :willy:

[GregWeld]

and i quote "gregweld" - that lets say we "all" took you under our wings - you know - a Lat G "kid"....

um (hand raised) .... how do i get that gig ??? beer and donuts ?? (aint i aint talking that lite beer sh#% either ) cover the stripper tab at sema next year ? um .... lets see what else i got ?? hmmmm ..... :cheers: :willy:

You don't qualify - you have to have at least 338 posts...

[GregWeld]

That's kinda why I wanted everybody's opinion and yeah, I have noticed the same thing, but this car "looks" really nice. I checked Ebay and there are several cars with a good amount of bids on so they seem like they have interest. I think if I can get it for $1,200 I might go for it. Idk, kinda reminds me of my GTO, I bought it just because it was cheap and regretted it every day.

I DID find this though, I am going to go check it out tomorrow. I miss mine so much. He says the motor is locked up but I have another 301T from my old car still sitting out in the back yard. Plus it's got the good old second gen chassis everyone here loves. I talked him down to $2,000

Whatcha think Uncle Greg? I am gonna call you that from now on. :thumbsup:

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MO BETTA --- if you could get it cheap enough... you already know how to do one of these... and what they'll bring when you're done with it right? So it would make a good "turn" if you can get it right and do it right without busting your goal.

[GregWeld]

Trey --

You did/do understand what I was trying to say right?? About doing a car that is easier to find / get parts for - and the value when finished?

UG
:rofl:

[TreySmith]

MO BETTA --- if you could get it cheap enough... you already know how to do one of these... and what they'll bring when you're done with it right? So it would make a good "turn" if you can get it right and do it right without busting your goal.Exactly :thumbsup: My only concern is that I won't be able to find a 400 or 455 Poncho motor.

I hope it works out, then I can go pick up 32 year old women again :woot:


Greg when I turn 21 I am going to buy you a beer!

[whiplash911]

You don't qualify - you have to have at least 338 posts...

ok ( thats number post number 24 ) :rofl:

( and the above laugh was so me NOT laughing at him i actually admire this site for the way info flows and the advice is so freely given .... im laughing cause i know whats in front of me and the more i read and more i study my project i figure each post is going to cost me cash )

[whiplash911]

and i quote - My only concern is that I won't be able to find a 400 or 455 Poncho motor.


trey - i can respect what your trying to do and i know it can be tough ...it was tough for me as well getting my feet wet learning ( i speak of the fact i was lost as i am now when i was restoring a car back to its stock form when i was in my late teens )

i quoted the 400 or 455 poncho motor cause that is right in line with the project i am working on ...... making a long story even longer ..... i am in te market for a 69 firebird but i will not need its engine or its trans ..... if i do find a car that suits my needs body and interior wise and it does come with the above mentioned powerplant .... maybe we can work something out .....

not to much has been said about my project and i have asked for it to be kept that way - but there are thoes here whom do know what i am working on - that being said ..... all i can promise is i will keep you in mind but im not on a time table with the car its self

[TreySmith]

and i quote - My only concern is that I won't be able to find a 400 or 455 Poncho motor.


trey - i can respect what your trying to do and i know it can be tough ...it was tough for me as well getting my feet wet learning ( i speak of the fact i was lost as i am now when i was restoring a car back to its stock form when i was in my late teens )

i quoted the 400 or 455 poncho motor cause that is right in line with the project i am working on ...... making a long story even longer ..... i am in te market for a 69 firebird but i will not need its engine or its trans ..... if i do find a car that suits my needs body and interior wise and it does come with the above mentioned powerplant .... maybe we can work something out .....

not to much has been said about my project and i have asked for it to be kept that way - but there are thoes here whom do know what i am working on - that being said ..... all i can promise is i will keep you in mind but im not on a time table with the car its self Sounds like fun, check out my old thread with my car. A 69 convertible would be sweet.

I did find a few motors so hopefully that wont be an issue. Where are you located? That would be great if we could work something out.

[whiplash911]

i am located in Michigan - you mentioned a convert ..... funny you should mention that .... some of my previous post involved me going down the path of loosing a convert at auction and the more i thought of the cars purpose and talking with the builder of the convert that slipped away we both agreed that with what i want to do with the car .... a convert firebird would not be the best choice so i have moved on to the coupe version

as i mentioned - i am gathering parts and having conversations with builders and at this moment - if i find a car tommorow then great ...if not ...i have some time

[TreySmith]

I looked at the Trans Am today, it was ok.. I think it needs a little too much work but I am still interested in it. If it was a Special Edition I would have bought it right then but I am still unsure on it, just a little over priced for what it is. Plus lately Trans Am's haven't been very desirable.

I found a 70 Challenger for $2,000, which are just awesome cars. He said the motor is a 360 and was rebuilt but someone stole the hood and carb so water got all in it. Ain't nothing a 440 can't fix! :D I checked Ebay and this car is worth alot more than $2,000 as it sits. Missing wind shield and rear glass.. Has doors and door glass. Doesn't have a grill. No rust on the body except for one spot on the right quarter but the floors have a good bit of rust. I figure if I can knab it for $1,500 it would be a great buy, but I need your approval Uncle Greg :thumbsup: Plus how many 17 year old kids can say they owned a 70 Challenger? Let alone all the other stuff I have had..

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[GregWeld]

Well - the pics aren't very good... but this is the kind of car I was talking about -- lots of parts, used or new, great resale - so you're not wasting your time and getting nothing for it...

Mopars are NOTORIOUS (this will cause a fight for sure) RUST BUCKETS.... the unibody just wasn't a strong suit of these cars - but most of this era (and price range) are going to need lots of sheet metal anyway... so it's kind of a mute point...

I hate to recommend with such LOUSY pictures -- but the price seems doable and the motor is a decent find as well - and can be rebuilt --- so I'd choose this one OVER the Pontiac or Oldsmobile -- and YOU'D get big thumbs up tooling with this one over either of the others....

EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

(the bus rule comes into play here -- see.... keep looking and another one will come by!)

[GregWeld]

Trey --

Only other "caveat" about Mopars... and I still think you should jump on this one...

THEY COST MORE TO BUILD.... and every single part you go to buy - will be 1 1/2 to 2 times more than a comparable part for a Chevy... I didn't realize this until I built a 440 and trans for a buddies 64 Polara Drop top... I was absolutely in shock when I priced his stuff out... and forget about "trim" for the car -- it was made from unobtainium! I think I paid $300 for a pair of headlight trim rings... if they were Camaro parts - I'd have had 100's of suppliers to choose from and they'd have been $69 bucks NEW... LOL This body style has much more available for it than that 64 of course... but you still may be surprised at what Mopar parts cost.

I found a 1970 440 HP Block (stamp pad has a Maltese cross on it along with other info) with the forged crank and 6 pack rods -- and a completely rebuilt Torqueflight for $750 at the local community college. That was a steal... I then copied the 440 build straight from Edelbrock... used their recommended cam (but from Comp) and their aluminum heads... Thing dyno'd a little over 500hp (crank)... at a low rpm... brutal torque.

[70rs]

I have to agree with "uncle" Greg on this. Parts will cost more, there will be rust issues but overall a much better choice than the other so far Trey. If you can get it at a good price (which 2k is still a good price) I would jump on it. But again with the title and papers, be sure it is all clear and in order first. Then be ready for sticker shock when you start adding up parts prices.
If you go slow and look for used deals or sales and really work on ways to save money on parts you can do this and have a killer car and have a ton of fun at the same time.:thumbsup:

[TreySmith]

I started looking up parts and the stuff I need isn't too bad such as the tail lights, which I am assuming it doesn't have. Windshields aren't expensive either. I know where a 71 challenger is that I can use for trim pieces plus a hood and there is another 70' next to where I bought my 80' T/A from..

Hopefully it wont be much to get on the road..


Here is the 71, it's at a junkyard.. The hood should fit on a 70 right?
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[GregWeld]

Well..... what are you waiting for...... (think of Caddy Shack - Judge Smells urging the kid to putt) :rofl:

I can't help you on parts swaps -- no idea what works on these model years - but you know there's people on here - that if you make the buy - will know exactly what works!

Good luck!

Remember -- don't act too eager -- sometimes you just have to walk away - let the seller stew about the lost "cash" he could have had... one or two days and he'll be calling you. UNLESS this car is posted for sale on a public site or something - then you better get to gettin'!!

[TreySmith]

Yeah it's up in the internet..

Hopefully I can go check it out tomorrow, he said he would call me back..

[TreySmith]

He called me back and I found the car has no interior.. What do y'all think now? I am hoping I can use that to my advantage and low ball him. It sucks because I was hoping it would be kinda all there. I probably wont get it unless the body is really clean.

[70rs]

He called me back and I found the car has no interior.. What do y'all think now? I am hoping I can use that to my advantage and low ball him. It sucks because I was hoping it would be kinda all there. I probably wont get it unless the body is really clean.

If you plan on doing a restoration then the interior would be an issue. If you were going to modify it and use different seats, console or whatever then no big deal. Your call, but you are right in that you can use that to offer less.

[TreySmith]

Yeah it wouldn't be too bad. I am thinking about just buying a hood and throwing a quick paint job on it and reselling it if too many parts required to get it on the road are missing. What color should I go with? Blue, green or black? The thought of owning a third red car doesn't sit too well with me.

[GregWeld]

Interior? We don't need no stinkin' interior....

Trey -- Without seats and stuff - you're right - it's something to dicker about --- and with no interior - it allows you to kinda go real "pro touring" with it - grab a couple of bucket seats - maybe do a roll bar/cage with 5 point harness etc -- you could go "rat rod Pro tour" and have a whole new genre of car build going!! Make the interior "race car basic" - switches with flip covers - or maybe just toggles... after market gauges in custom simple race car dash...

Serious!

[70rs]

Yeah it wouldn't be too bad. I am thinking about just buying a hood and throwing a quick paint job on it and reselling it if too many parts required to get it on the road are missing. What color should I go with? Blue, green or black? The thought of owning a third red car doesn't sit too well with me.

If the car is going to be yours, take a long hard look at it and think about doing this one up the way you would want it. The chance to get another might not come along too soon and it would make a killer project. Double check the rust factor though.
If you get it and decide to keep it long term I think a nice darker metallic blue would look good. Send me your email in a PM and I will show you a really cool factory color.:thumbsup:

[GregWeld]

Trey -- Don't listen to him ^^^^^^ !! Panther PINK!!!!:woot: :rofl:

Don't listen to me either ---- I once painted a canoe "Dull Dead Grass Green" - yep! That's the real name of the paint!

[TreySmith]

They actually painted one panther pink at the shop I work, I saw it at a car show and it actually looked good! I forgot about plum purple, but yeah I am thinking blue would be good for this. The owner of the place I had my tranny rebuilt has a blue 70 HEMI challenger, it's so cool. It's got a bunch of oddball options like auto on the column and stuff like that.

[70rs]

I've seen a couple of yard rotters up here in Snohomish County that would plain old dissapear if they were painted Dead Grass Green.....:lol:




Pink, uh it's your car man....:rofl:

Email sent with pics Trey.

[TreySmith]

Man, choosing a color is going to be so hard.. I sent you a few pics of a car that has the perfect color 70rs. I think I need to wait until I get the car first though lol.

[70rs]

Man, choosing a color is going to be so hard.. I sent you a few pics of a car that has the perfect color 70rs. I think I need to wait until I get the car first though lol.

Yeah, paint is last. If you want to do get an overall design idea cool, but don't waste any time worrying about color too much yet. I will take a look at the pics. Thanks! Did you like that blue color?

[TreySmith]

Yup, looks great! The color will probably be somewhere between your pics and the one I sent. Now I just have to find some good rims to match it..

All I know is that this car is going to be LOUD, as loud and mean as friggen possible! Like straight headers loud lol.

[whiplash911]

Man, choosing a color is going to be so hard.. I sent you a few pics of a car that has the perfect color 70rs. I think I need to wait until I get the car first though lol.

whatever color you do ...stay with the factory "Mopar" tones - that is part of the factor that makes mopars so cool ( yes every make had a handful - ford had the grabber colors and gm had the orange ect but mopar nailed them)

[70rs]

Trey -- Don't listen to him ^^^^^^ !! Panther PINK!!!!:woot: :rofl:

Don't listen to me either ---- I once painted a canoe "Dull Dead Grass Green" - yep! That's the real name of the paint!

Greg is going to paint his new Nomad project pink.......:_paranoid

[GregWeld]

B5 Blue (I don't know the real name but that's the code I think) -- killer color ----

and it was PLUM CRAZY not Plum Purple!! Dang nab it! If you're gonna be a Mopar (That thing got a Hemi in it?) guy... ya got to learn the colors!
:lol:

[TreySmith]

B5 Blue (I don't know the real name but that's the code I think) -- killer color ----

and it was PLUM CRAZY not Plum Purple!! Dang nab it! If you're gonna be a Mopar (That thing got a Hemi in it?) guy... ya got to learn the colors!
:lol:Lol I was sleepy last night..

[GregWeld]

Greg is going to paint his new Nomad project pink.......:_paranoid

Yeah! But I'm going to two tone it!! Pink and White like a '50's formica kitchen table... toss in a little chrome... and waa la! :woot:

This is the B5 blue I think....

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[comp-spec]

This is 71 B-5 blue
Different years had different formulas
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[TreySmith]

This is 71 B-5 blue
Different years had different formulas
Looks great :thumbsup:

I looked at the car today and talked him down to $1400.. The front clip is good, doors are good just surface rust, the trunk lid is good but the trunk floor is bad and the front floors are bad. It looked like quarter skins were put on before and I asked him about it. He said the car was completely restored and ready for paint about 10 years ago and then his uncle went to jail(his car) and I guess it just sat. But guess what the original color was guys. :woot:

You guys think I should go for it? It needs ALOT of work, but I think I might be able to handle it, I mean, it's a B5 blue Challenger!

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[GregWeld]

My...... I really had to "digest" those photos....

Okay -- I'm trying to watch a show on Speed - and "think" at the same time. What to say here... being positive - and being "practical" - and being helpful in a couple different ways. Great show btw -- "The Beast"....

This car - whether you can get it for Free - or for $2000 or somewhere in-between... really the price means nothing - it's the difference between buying something on Ebay and paying 25 Grand for it only to find out you have a bondo wagon... and knowing / seeing what you're taking on. This car - even at $1500 is pretty "cheap" on a purely financial basis... and frankly - you're just not going to get much of ANY car for that kind of money.

That being said... it's really more what your budget can stand to fix. That would be my #1 concern - given your age and not really knowing much about YOU - forgetting the car. Do you have the DRIVE... Time... $$$ this project is going to take? Would you learn from it.... is it the kind of car you want to put your hard work and hard earned money into (I think yes - it's the right style/brand/year etc)... But are you willing to be REALISTIC regarding just what you're chewing off here? Do you have a place that this car can be worked on for the next 3 years? Do you - and can you - afford to INVEST in the tools that will be required? Do you have friends/relatives that are willing to help on a moments notice? You're going to need help... helping hands... knowledge... advice... and lots of small hand tools - and a good welder -- and on and on...

[GregWeld]

I hope some other guys jump in here...

Here's some thoughts - and I'm going to miss some steps here...

Got to get it home

Get it stripped down to bare body

Build a cart for it

Get it blasted to clean metal

Assess what panels need to be ordered

Lay out a plan of what should be done first

While waiting on parts - start bead blasting - cleaning protecting - bagging and labeling small parts to be reused. Ascertain what is NOT there and where to get them.

Build a realistic $ budget and time budget

Pick up a tool - and start working...

[70rs]

I agree with Greg on all of the concerns and thoughts about what it will take. If you are confident you can handle the financial and time requirements to do this then I think you should get it. But think it through and be sure of what you are getting into. I think it would be a great learning experience but it will take a lot of commitment on your part. That car has a ton of potential in the right hands. And the B5 blue does look great!


Greg, was it the show on Eric Banon you were watching? That was a great documentary IMO. Right up to where he crashed that Falcon. But at least it is going to be rebuilt.:thumbsup:

[GregWeld]

Yeah Eric -- the Australian actor guy...

When you go fast - sometimes bad shizzell happens... LOL

Personally -- if he (Trey) can handle it - this is the better car of the three that he's shown... there's just not much that beats an E body Mopar IMHO...

[70rs]

Yeah Eric -- the Australian actor guy...

When you go fast - sometimes bad shizzell happens... LOL

Personally -- if he (Trey) can handle it - this is the better car of the three that he's shown... there's just not much that beats an E body Mopar IMHO...

I agree, great potential with this car. It is a HUGE project though. Much better than the Mustangs shown and if done right could be a great long term keeper.

[GregWeld]

BTW -- Personally -- I have a nice "shed" - lots of tools... lots of time... 1/8th of Charley's money... and looking at a project like this makes me want to hold my breath 'til I turn blue... But at the same time - it makes me want to pick up some square tubing and start bracing so I can cut her all apart and get started...

[TreySmith]

I was going to drop it off and work and blast all the rust areas on the body and then pay the body man to start on it. I was gonna have him sand down and prime the fenders, roof, doors and prime them since they are clean. Then patch the quarters up and paint it. I think it will be about $1000 with the employee discount and single stage paint. The floors are pretty expensive for these cars though, it's surprising.

[70rs]

If you get it look at it really close after you blast it. You may need/want to replace some things instead of patching. The real story will unfold after all of the paint is gone and you can see the bare metal. Do not underestimate the amount of work this will take. But with a good build plan you can do this and have a lot of fun. Take your time and do it right, you will be happier in the end knowing it is a solid build. And maybe think about trying some of the body work yourself and learning some new skills, you will also save some money on labor that way.

[GregWeld]

I was going to drop it off and work and blast all the rust areas on the body and then pay the body man to start on it. I was gonna have him sand down and prime the fenders, roof, doors and prime them since they are clean. Then patch the quarters up and paint it. I think it will be about $1000 with the employee discount and single stage paint. The floors are pretty expensive for these cars though, it's surprising.

Okay - that's a good plan! Forgot that you work at a body shop... makes this stuff a WHOLE LOT EASIER!

Yeah -- the parts cost for Mopars is what I mentioned earlier! Twice what the same dang thing runs for a Chevy piece...

[TreySmith]

Meh, I don't think I am going to get it. Just going to need too much work plus I am sure it will still be there in a few months when it's time for another car. I found a 72 El Camino though that's in good shape. Personally it's not the greatest looking car but there pretty sweet. I like it because it's all there, runs drives and it has a RADIO. :woot: Also Chevelle part's are abundant right now. It would be a great car to enjoy for a month or two, throw a paint job on, lay some carpet in and re-sell for a profit then move on to something else. I will get some pics tomorrow when I look at it.



Also we were behind a lexus today that had a kick ass blue..

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[70rs]

That is a nice looking blue there.

Your idea of buying a few here and there to flip is a good idea and a way to save up some money to get a car in better shape when you are ready to build one for yourself.

[GregWeld]

Trey -- if it works for YOU... then it's perfect.

In the end - none of us are paying for it - nor working on it - nor enjoying the finished product either... But I am glad that you're THINKING about all of the choices... rather than just rushing out - and then going "WTF" did I do here!

[TreySmith]

Trey -- if it works for YOU... then it's perfect.

In the end - none of us are paying for it - nor working on it - nor enjoying the finished product either... But I am glad that you're THINKING about all of the choices... rather than just rushing out - and then going "WTF" did I do here! Yeah lol, did that with the GTO. I still have nightmares of that thing. I had the same feeling with the 70 Mustang and this Challenger. It's like the smell of old interior just brings back horrible memories. I have yet to find a car that gave me the same feeling as the 80 Trans Am though, I was so happy when I got that car. I loved everything about it and would kill to have another one, not to mention I made alot of friends because of the car.

I guess I could just keep the El Camino and sell it when another car came up.

[TreySmith]

Oh ma gawd. I just found a 70 Roadrunner for $500(negotiable)!!! This is hands down my FAVORITE muscle car! I have dreamed of owning one of these. I am calling tomorrow and if it has a title I am picking it up.

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[70rs]

^^^^^changes mind like I change my underwear, daily! You're killin' me dude! :rofl: :rofl:


i am just joking, if that works and all the things talked about apply then go for it!

[TreySmith]

I know lol.. He said someone is coming to pick it up tomorrow but there really far away. I hope they back out so bad.

[GregWeld]

^^^^^changes mind like I change my underwear, daily! You're killin' me dude! :rofl: :rofl:


i am just joking, if that works and all the things talked about apply then go for it!

Do you change them front to back - inside out... that's 4 days worth from one pair!!
:rofl:

[70rs]

Do you change them front to back - inside out... that's 4 days worth from one pair!!
:rofl:

Yeah, isn't that what you're supposed to do? :_paranoid





:rofl: :rofl: Uh, no.

[TreySmith]

Do you change them front to back - inside out... that's 4 days worth from one pair!!
:rofl:I feel bad for your wife. :rolleyes:

[70rs]

I feel bad for your wife. :rolleyes:

:rofl: :rofl: funny how a bunch of guys no matter the age difference get some humor out of this kind of thing huh?

[TreySmith]

:rofl: :rofl: funny how a bunch of guys no matter the age difference get some humor out of this kind of thing huh?Lol yeah.. :lol:

I went to go look at the Road Runner today.. Holy crap, I only wish you guys could have been there to see how bad it was, pictures and words just can't describe it.. I could pull the rear window out and the whole trunk lid just fell in. The Charger was actually pretty nice and had decent interior. It had the original 440 in it and it was a Special Edition for $500 also. I almost wanna go back for it even though it's an ugly year.

But the Road Runner was so cool, just my favorite car of all time. If the trunk lid wasn't so bad I would have bought it and drove it like it was.

I'll get some pics up in a minute.

[TreySmith]

Guess what the first thing was that I saw when I pulled into work today? A B5 Blue Road Runner. It's like God is playing some cruel joke on me.. :willy: I found a nice 69 Road Runner but it's $800 too much :(

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[70rs]

What about waiting to buy another car till you have more money saved up? That way you can start off with a better prospect.

[GregWeld]

Patience is a virtue my little grasshopper....


:rofl: :rofl:


I think you're too young to get the funny in that statement... but it sure popped into my mind and I can see Keith Caradine speaking it.

[70rs]

David Caradine? I remember grasshopper!:lol:

[TreySmith]

What the hells patience?


Anyways the next two I am looking at are a 78 Trans Am and a 73 Camaro.

I just called about the camaro and he said $2,000. It's got a 454 but it's not hooked up yet and the interior is all original. I asked about the rust and he said there surprisingly wasn't very much at all, but I think we all know how that goes. I am going to look at it tomorrow after school. I hope it turns out good because I would really like to have one.

The T/A is a 78 but it's been converted into a 79.. The interior is really nice and it's a manual car which is cool and raises the value ALOT. I am going to daily drive whichever car I get so it might not be all that great lol.. The engine got water in the intake so I would have to build an engine for it. The car is $1600 delivered to my house. Pics up in a little bit.

Here are some pics of the Road Runner and Charger. The more I think about it, the more I want to go back for the Charger. I mean it's not the best looking muscle car but damn, $500! And those 440's are freaken huge. Also it's got 9,000 miles lol..



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[70rs]

If that 73 camaro is in decent shape get it (after you beat him up on price) it will be cheaper to get parts for than any of the mopars and they are great looking cars to begin with. BBC parts are getting cheaper by the day as long as you just build a strong street motor and dont go overboard in aftermarket parts. The sheet metal prices are not too bad either. Give it a really good look and let us know. Of course pictures are always good too.:thumbsup:

[TreySmith]

If that 73 camaro is in decent shape get it (after you beat him up on price) it will be cheaper to get parts for than any of the mopars and they are great looking cars to begin with. BBC parts are getting cheaper by the day as long as you just build a strong street motor and dont go overboard in aftermarket parts. The sheet metal prices are not too bad either. Give it a really good look and let us know. Of course pictures are always good too.:thumbsup:There will be plenty of pictures. :D

And I already beat him up and dropped the price from $3,000.

[GregWeld]

Eric nor I will let you have those Mopars -- they're just too far gone for what you want to do..

:>)

[70rs]

Eric nor I will let you have those Mopars -- they're just too far gone for what you want to do..

:>)

Yup, we will not LET you.....:lol:

I'm looking forward to seeing the pics of the Camaro.

[TreySmith]

Ok so I went to go look at the car today and my God, this was the nicest thing I have ever seen. Hardly a drop of rust and the 454 IS hooked up. He said it would crank up and run but it's been sitting a while. It's got Trans Am interior but it's all there, it's also got a retro diamond headliner lol... The rust is just a little bit on the edge of the trunk lid. He wants $2500 but all I have is $2200. Hopefully I can find a way to come up with the rest by this weekend. I want this thing so bad.


Pics up after I eat.

[70rs]

Cool! Just go sell a kidney, easy money man....:D

[TreySmith]

Here are the pics, I am going to try and borrow some money. He said he would hold the car for me until Sunday. I have this crazy excited feeling I never got it with any of the other cars I have looked at except for the 80' Trans Am..

He backed into the car one day which is why the nose is pushed in just a little.

http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/1605/1000831w.jpg
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http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/1597/1000853fo.jpg
http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/9571/1000841o.jpg
http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/2619/1000843s.jpg
http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/5649/1000858g.jpg

[TreySmith]

http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/6853/1000822n.jpg
http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/8884/1000830k.jpg
http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/489/1000825.jpg
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http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/2074/1000859i.jpg
http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/2867/1000854o.jpg

[tgvettes]

That looks like a buy Trey, anyway I would buy it for that lol

Tonny

[TreySmith]

My friend that went with my to look at the car told his dad about it and he loaned me the $300!! I am so happy right now, I can't wait to go pick it up. I just need to find a way to get it home and it would probably be a good idea to talk to my mom about it too lol.

[70rs]

Well I say you are golden compared to the others you have posted! Nice car, I hope it all works out and you get it Trey!:thumbsup:

If you do, and there is any stock parts you need CHEAP just let me know, I have some misc parts laying around from my '70 and need to make some room.

I knew the right car was out there for you, you just had to wait for it to show itself. Nice work!!:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[TreySmith]

Thanks! :thumbsup:

What's funny is that this is the one car I looked at that didn't have pictures. All the other cars looked fine in the pics yet this one was perfect and I just went to see it without even knowing what it looked like. It's kinda hard to explain.

[70rs]

Thanks! :thumbsup:

What's funny is that this is the one car I looked at that didn't have pictures. All the other cars looked fine in the pics yet this one was perfect and I just went to see it without even knowing what it looked like. It's kinda hard to explain.

It's funny how things work out sometimes. Keep us posted on how it goes.
:thumbsup:

[TreySmith]

Well, it's a done deal now. I just need to go pick it up. I have no clue where to start on what color or rims etc.. Most likely going to convert it to a split bumper. Gonna spray paint some flames on it for now though lol :D

[70rs]

Well, it's a done deal now. I just need to go pick it up. I have no clue where to start on what color or rims etc.. Most likely going to convert it to a split bumper. Gonna spray paint some flames on it for now though lol :D

Rattle can flames on an old camaro? Classic! :lol:

Don't worry about color, wheels, or any of that yet. Just get it home and clean it up and take stock of what you need vs. what you want and go from there. Once you know what has to be dealt with you can make a plan of attack and jump in.

I am really happy for you that you found a solid car. It looks like the waiting was worth it.:thumbsup:

Remember.....LOTS OF PICTURES....:lol:

[tgvettes]

I'm very happy for you, looks like a great find. My First car was a 70 Camaro
and when I'm done with my 63 Nova Convertible and 68 Camaro that I am working on now I will get another 70-73 to mimic my first car.
Great buy Trey

Tonny

[TreySmith]

Just picked it up today! It's been raining and I forgot to cover up the 50 cent piece sized hole in the windshield, I am sure it will be fine. I can't wait to really look at the car, it was dark when we got back.

[70rs]

:woot: :woot:

[slenning]

Looks like a great find Trey Congrats:yes:

Like 70RS said, I also have a lot of stock parts lying around from tearing apart my 70 that I would sell CHEAP

Good luck

[TreySmith]

Looks like a great find Trey Congrats:yes:

Like 70RS said, I also have a lot of stock parts lying around from tearing apart my 70 that I would sell CHEAP

Good luck Thanks, I will contact y'all once I get some money. It's gonna take like 3 weeks to pay my friend back, maybe he'll forget :D.