FRUSTRATED with Centerline Racing wheel!!

[mxjunkie]

I was told 3 to 4 weeks when I ordered them direct. Called after 4 weeks and was told "2 more weeks" for the next FOUR months!!! I'm so beside myself I can hardly breath. They flat out lie to me about the wheels and "tooling up the factory" ect. ect.. Unfortunatly I really want this wheel in 18 and 20", they are the only ones I found that make em in plus sizes.
I need help, anybody else make these? They have had my money since the first day also.... :soapbox:

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a365/heejungadee/mVN5701.jpg

[buickfunnycar.com]

Schott makes a wheels that looks very close to that in your sizing,contact Jon @ www.driverzinc.com

[camcojb]

does Centerline own American Racing wheels?

Jody

[buickfunnycar.com]

does Centerline own American Racing wheels?

Jody

Sure looks like the AR salt lake doesn't it...?

[camcojb]

Sure looks like the AR salt lake doesn't it...?
yeah, especially since it says American Racing on it........... :D I just wanted to change the title for him if it's wrong, don't want Centerline being blamed for AR's issues............... :wow:

[Vegas69]

Get a refund... why come on here and vent when you've posted 27 times in 2 years?

[usa-69z]

Get a refund... why come on here and vent when you've posted 27 times in 2 years?

whats that got to do with it ???

[Vegas69]

I'll tell you exactly what it has to do with it. I see it on another site I frequent. People use the site to whine and bitch and that's the end of it.

[jcal87]

Get a refund... why come on here and vent when you've posted 27 times in 2 years?

Agreed get a refund not because you've waited so long but for the fact that it is a very unattractive wheel sorry just my opinion...

[buickfunnycar.com]

yeah, especially since it says American Racing on it........... :D I just wanted to change the title for him if it's wrong, don't want Centerline being blamed for AR's issues............... :wow:

My eyes must be bad Jody,I thought it said Salt Lake Special but yeah...AR wheel for sure.

jcal87,

You may not like the look and I'm not sure how old you are but on the right vintage car,that actually is a good period-look.:yes:

[jcal87]

My eyes must be bad Jody,I thought it said Salt Lake Special but yeah...AR wheel for sure.

jcal87,

You may not like the look and I'm not sure how old you are but on the right vintage car,that actually is a good period-look.:yes:

I agree i have very similar wheels on my car but i dont like the look of those but like i said its just my opinion

[camcojb]

I edited the title to American Racing.

Jody

[usa-69z]

I'll tell you exactly what it has to do with it. I see it on another site I frequent. People use the site to whine and bitch and that's the end of it.

I didnt think you needed a quota up before you could ask for help or advice with a problem..Im up to 70 posts now , is that enuf?:thumbsup:

[Vegas69]

Naaaaahhh:rofl: I was helping, he should get his money back. There is no reasonable excuse for a cast wheel to take that long unless the workers are on strike in China.

[70rs]

Cancel, get a refund and move on. Very simple.

Good luck.

[mxjunkie]

First of all yes, the pic is of an American Racing wheel. I'm getting the "Centerline racing wheel". American racing only goes up to size 17" on
their salt flat wheel. That's why i went with Centerline, they go up to 22".
So please change the title back...

Second I really don't give a #$% if you like the wheel or not. I personally think it will look great on my 62 impala with air ride. 20 in back 18 in front.

Third of all who cars how many post I have? Do you have to have so many before asking for help on finding a wheel? D-BAG.

I just want to know if somebody might know of a wheel just like it that is available. So THANKS to all those with helpfull suggestions, all others can go about your business. Thanks :mad:

Could you please change the title back though?

[camcojb]

got it, but pretty easy to misunderstand. You say this but put a pic of an American Racing wheel.....

I need help, anybody else make these? They have had my money since the first day also.... :soapbox:
Now we've got it figured out, lets keep this on track guys...........

Jody

[70rs]

Didn't Edelbrock make a wheel like that? Or is it just a relabled AR?

Scratch that. I just looked and they don't list anything on their site. I thought I had seen them listed somewhere with the Edelbrock name on them. Sorry for the bad info.

[Vegas69]

Here you go my friend....http://www.detroitspeed.com/projectpages/james/james_sub3.htm

[buickfunnycar.com]

First of all yes, the pic is of an American Racing wheel. I'm getting the "Centerline racing wheel". American racing only goes up to size 17" on
their salt flat wheel. That's why i went with Centerline, they go up to 22".
So please change the title back...

Second I really don't give a #$% if you like the wheel or not. I personally think it will look great on my 62 impala with air ride. 20 in back 18 in front.

Third of all who cars how many post I have? Do you have to have so many before asking for help on finding a wheel? D-BAG.

I just want to know if somebody might know of a wheel just like it that is available. So THANKS to all those with helpfull suggestions, all others can go about your business. Thanks :mad:

Could you please change the title back though?

I knew AR only made them up to 17's,did not know Centerline makes the same wheel up to 22's though...:rolleyes:

Edelbrock did make a similar wheel but they don't offer it anymore.

[dj3]

I was told 3 to 4 weeks when I ordered them direct. Called after 4 weeks and was told "2 more weeks" for the next FOUR months!!! I'm so beside myself I can hardly breath. They flat out lie to me about the wheels and "tooling up the factory" ect. ect.. Unfortunatly I really want this wheel in 18 and 20", they are the only ones I found that make em in plus sizes.
I need help, anybody else make these? They have had my money since the first day also.... :soapbox:


You are not alone, I got the same 3 weeks quote and Im going on 2.5 months. I was told that there manufacturer of there rings went bankrupt and they were having to make there own. I would normally canceled my order, but im getting 2 more of what I already have and dont want to buy a complete new set. Im gambling because I see a strong possibilty of them going bankrupt if there doing this nonsense to everyone.

[mxjunkie]

You are not alone, I got the same 3 weeks quote and Im going on 2.5 months. I was told that there manufacturer of there rings went bankrupt and they were having to make there own. I would normally canceled my order, but im getting 2 more of what I already have and dont want to buy a complete new set. Im gambling because I see a strong possibilty of them going bankrupt if there doing this nonsense to everyone.

Exactly what i'm going through except it's been 4 months. They say my 18 should be in the box soon, but no ETA on the 20's still. I ask then all kinds of questions also. Like "you shut down production while tooling up your plant?"
"How could you tell me 3 to 4 weeks when you KNEW that wasn't even close to the truth" ect. ect. They just don't have anything to say. Just, "yes, we are sorry sir, it's a custom wheel and take awhile"... Custom wheel? bwhahah, they weld the centers to the rim, REAL custom! I'm just in the same boat as you, I want that style of wheel.... :willy:

[mxjunkie]

Here you go my friend....http://www.detroitspeed.com/projectpages/james/james_sub3.htm

Yes, I see the wheels, that's what they will look like.. But they are just on a project car right? I don't see they are selling them?

[Vegas69]

Those aren't the same wheels you posted just very similar. I'm sure DSE can tell you who made them.

[mxjunkie]

Those aren't the same wheels you posted just very similar. I'm sure DSE can tell you who made them.

Yeah, that's all I want, don't care who makes them.. Just thought it was a link to a place that sells them. I'll email them, thanks.

[Roger M]

They look like Budnik Murocs

http://www.budnik.com/roadwheeldetail.asp?scid=96&pid=833&pg=1

[70rs]

They look like Budnik Murocs

http://www.budnik.com/roadwheeldetail.asp?scid=96&pid=833&pg=1

Exactly. I just looked them up. DSE has them listed on their site too. Nice looking wheel! I would bet there are different finish options as well.

[Swain]

Those are our Muroc II wheels, shown with a bead blasted center.

[JustinB]

I can set you up with a set of Schott Velocity Wheels. Similar style wheel with a 4-6 week turn around.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y8/jbutler45/driverz/SchottVelocity.jpg


Justin Butler
www.DriverzInc.com
1-866-694-5940

[buickfunnycar.com]

Thank you Justin,I knew Schott made something similar although that is more of a gasser wheel then it is a salt lake-look wheel.
The quality on those Shott wheels are incredible...

[GregWeld]

Shhhhhhhhhhh ---

Don't tell Jason - but the Schott Velocity is what I want to do on the Minotti...

But my mind is still an open book...

Waiting to be slammed shut....:lol:

Blank pages. Nothin' happenin' up there at all.

[70rs]

That wheel from Schott (velocity) is just awesome looking!

[mxjunkie]

Thanks but I'm really looking for the smaller window holes and true "salt flat" look. I'll check out the websites. Thanks!

[mxjunkie]

The Budnik's would work for me. I'll just have the centers painted gray and roughed up some. Are they big $$$? Not that it matters at this point, i just wanted to get my car done!!

[55Sedan]

Hey guys, newbie here. I was just starting to shop wheels a couple weeks ago when my tire shop guy told me of the NIGHTMARES with Centerline. I was looking at the Boulevard, too. You can get this style wheel in American Racing cast or polished, Wheel Vintiques, Cragar (I think a "391"?) and Budnik. I will go for the Budniks myself, just because it fits my style and price range (sort of!). A set of 17x7 and 17x11 polished Murocs is $1697 to my door in California from a vendor in Indiana. I do not know how many of these are available in 20 or 22, though.

Styles: Muroc - least expensive, all polished, standard "stepped" rim. Going to a "Fat Lip" adds $400 per wheel to the 11" width. Muroc II is VERY similar, but kidney openings appear to be a little bigger. Muroc III is quite different in that the spokes are thinner, and peaked, and the wheel insets are satin finish. III is my favorite, but about $1,000 more per set in same size.

Oh, and the tire shop guy also said all manufacturers seem to be having trouble getting "hoops" right now to make their wheels. Still does not excuse Centerline from LYING! Hope this helps!

Larry

[Swain]

I was told 3 to 4 weeks when I ordered them direct. Called after 4 weeks and was told "2 more weeks" for the next FOUR months!!! I'm so beside myself I can hardly breath. They flat out lie to me about the wheels and "tooling up the factory" ect. ect.. Unfortunatly I really want this wheel in 18 and 20", they are the only ones I found that make em in plus sizes.
I need help, anybody else make these? They have had my money since the first day also.... :soapbox:

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a365/heejungadee/mVN5701.jpg

let me know if you wanted a set of our Muroc II wheels.

[mxjunkie]

Thanks for more sugestions. I'll have to call one more time, and this time when they piss me off, and they will, I'll have to get my money back. That shouldn't be a problem correct? I mean they've been collecting interest on my money for 5 months now! Hope they don't make a big deal about giving my money back.

[Kustom_dude]

have you looked at the billet specialties Bonneville

http://www.billetspecialties.com/item.asp?cid=16&scid=128&pid=1011

[55Sedan]

MXJunkie,

Is there an update? Inquiring minds want to know.

I can't tell you how great Budnik is! Jay has been putting up with me and my "wheeling and dealing" and has been SUCH an awesome supporter!

Drop Centerline and go with Budnik...:thumbsup:

NewGen 500 is also an awesome looking wheel! Or, what about Bonspeed "Superstar"? A couple variations from Salt Flat.

Larry

[mxjunkie]

Funny you ask. The 2 front wheels showed up out of the blue on Friday. No call, no email like i asked so I could make sure to be home. But I just happen to be home. They are the look I wanted, quality is so so. Just happy to have 2 at this point. But then again, now I'm trapped and can't cancel my order, and they still won't give me an ETA on the rears still.. :mad:
The guy at Budnik was very cool and prompt on mailing back and forth.
Lesson learned.

[COYBILT]

lets not make fun of people wheels , I think there different and I like that.

Hopefully no one bashes on my wheels.

[cluxford]

I wouldn't hold Budnik up too high. Twice I have wanted wheels from them, twice I have been told 16 weeks :wow:

The second time they compounded the issue by wasting 5 weeks. I thought the wheels were ordered and being made, I get an email saying..."Did you want to order the wheels we were discussing". I replied saying I did ...5 weeks ago. They said oh we though that was just an enquiry. When you see my email that says. Great those specs are perfect lets get started how do you want me to pay...I can't for the life of me see how that is an enquiry...

Twice I have gone with alternate suppliers.

Sure I am in Australia but shipping takes under 1 week.

Reality is every company can share great stories and all have horror stories. What is important is not to lie. At least Budnik told me up front it would be 4 months +

I know Rushforth don't make the wheels you want, I had to change my wheel preference also but did so simply on the basis that Jason seems to have a good rep and never heard anyone disappointed. i can say working with him on my latest set of wheels (second set and the car hasn't even hit the road yet) that Rushforth have been nothing short of excellent. Great quality customer service, which is all that matters at the end of the day, it's not about the wheel..plenty of wheel companies, plenty of wheels to choose from, it's about people and service.

[55Sedan]

I did not mean to imply Budnik is better than any other. The personal service I've received from Jay has been above any other company I have ever dealt with in all my years of working on cars. (I have not talked to Driverz Inc or Rushforth, though, and they seem to be VERY responsive to customers!) I've read MANY great things about other wheel companies like Rushforth. I would have gone with another company if there were another style I liked well enough.

I did personally witness the lack of quality on Centerline wheels, though. I would not consider Centerline after seeing their poor machining quality.:P

[mxjunkie]

I called today about the rear wheels and to my surprise they said "we shipped them last Friday"!! I got a tracking number and took the day off work. My car should be wheeled and bagged by Sunday!!!!! :unibrow:

[mxjunkie]

So my wheel story continues.......... I take Tuesday off work because the tracker says my rear wheels should be here then. It changed to Wednesday, sooooo i'm off Wednesday anyway. Tracker says they are on the truck for delivery! YEAH!!!!!!!! Wait around all day, check tracker, pace, wait, pace, check tracker... pace wait..... you get the idea. About 4pm I check the track again. So I'll let the tracker tell the rest of the story...:willy: :willy: :mad: So close I could smell them.....
Now who knows... Another 5 months for Centerline to make my wheels the FedEx damaged? F**K!!!




Nov 25, 2009 2:26 PMPackage returned to shipperPORTLAND, ORUnable to deliver shipment, return to shipper - Damaged in transit

Nov 25, 2009 1:34 PMDelivery exceptionPORTLAND, ORDamaged, handling per shipper instructions

Nov 25, 2009 7:34 AMOn FedEx vehicle for deliveryPORTLAND, OR

Nov 25, 2009 7:01 AMAt local FedEx facilityPORTLAND, OR

Nov 25, 2009 2:51 AMDeparted FedEx locationPORTLAND, OR

Nov 24, 2009 9:38 PMArrived at FedEx locationPORTLAND, OR

Nov 24, 2009 9:13 AMDeparted FedEx locationSACRAMENTO, CA

Nov 23, 2009 4:14 PMArrived at FedEx locationSACRAMENTO, CA

Nov 21, 2009 4:52 AMIn transitCITY OF INDUSTRY, CA

Nov 21, 2009 4:20 AMLeft FedEx origin facilityANAHEIM, CA

Nov 20, 2009 6:02 PMArrived at FedEx locationANAHEIM, CA

Nov 20, 2009 4:09 PMPicked upANAHEIM, CA

Nov 20, 2009 2:58 PMShipment information sent to FedEx

[55Sedan]

My heart truly goes out to you! I understand how frustrating this must be. I'm getting ready to order my Budniks and I sure hope I don't have the same frustration. (Jay, did you read that? hahahaha!) I can't even imagine how p1ssed you must be now having the fronts and no rear wheels. I wonder if they'd take the fronts back and give you all your money back?

I once heard someone say, "If it has t1ts or tires it will give you trouble." I have been married for over 20 years, and we have had some troubles but we're still together. Now, how many cars have I had? Probably more than 20.

[mxjunkie]

They won't take em back now. All have been shipped and out of their hands. This time it was FED EX that f-ed up! But what makes me sick is
that I'll have to call Centerline and just even talk to them... Makes me cringe!!! And they will get around to fixing? Replacing? Or whatever they are going to do on their own sweet time i'm sure...

[70rs]

Ouch!! Huge bummer. Very sorry to hear it. Good luck with the rest of the ordeal. I hope it all works out quickly for you.

[gearheads78]

Sorry to here of your troubles with C/L. For future reference another good company to go with is Intro. I have owned a few sets and both were quick as far as custom wheels go and great quality.

[firewood]

Has anybody actually LOOKED at the wheels that were damaged? The damage may only be superficial. It could be that the boxes got beat to hell, but the wheels may be salvageable.
Maybe they need to send you a pic. You'd have to yell at a bunch of people to get fex ex to do anything, but a proper amount of pressure can get someone to move.

Even if the wheels are damaged, it may be easily repairable, and a hell of alot quicker than waiting till next year.

Just thinking.

[mxjunkie]

Has anybody actually LOOKED at the wheels that were damaged? The damage may only be superficial. It could be that the boxes got beat to hell, but the wheels may be salvageable.
Maybe they need to send you a pic. You'd have to yell at a bunch of people to get fex ex to do anything, but a proper amount of pressure can get someone to move.

Even if the wheels are damaged, it may be easily repairable, and a hell of alot quicker than waiting till next year.

Just thinking.

Oh believe me, i've tried to tell them that!!! I've talked to shipping, manager, ect, ect. It's their policy they kept saying. I told them how long it took to get the wheel from Centerline and that I DO NOT want them sent back, I have lots of people who can fix them HERE!! They said they were on the way back already, which was a BOLD FACE LIE!! But hey, why would FedEx be any different than Centerline or any other POS company. All these wheels have been is lies from the f-ing start! I'm so beside myself i can't even speak..... I.... argggg.

[ZMAN1969]

MXJunkie man you got treally bad Karma flaoting around you sorry to hear this! really my heart goes out to ya NO ONE deserves this and Centerline really should step up for you this is THEIR shipping company not yours! wishing you good luck in the future! keep your chin up

[firewood]

That sucks, man. No further progress, I presume? Someone should drive out to were they were last scanned and kick some ass. Can Fed Ex tell you where they are RIGHT NOW? Just thinking outside the box.

[mxjunkie]

Centerline say's "oh, they arnt to bad, we'll fix em up and sent them back to ya". Uh, I guess their idea of "not that bad" is different than mine? :mad:
Screw it. I took em, mounted tires on, the offset that I was TOLD to get and was measured by the guys doing my air ride, was WRONG..... So they didn't fit up in the wells. Sending back to Centerline to have the offset moved 3/4 inch. Another $400 into these wheels. I should have just done all this myself. Really turned off by all businesses at the moment. Are there any "stand up" people left in this world? :faint:

But it is slowly getting closer....
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a365/heejungadee/impala-1.jpg

[GregWeld]

Now you know why I built my very own shop! I can screw it up just as good as the next guy - but #1 - my screw up is less costly... #2 - I learn something #3 - doing it yourself is much more satisfying

[mxjunkie]

Now you know why I built my very own shop! I can screw it up just as good as the next guy - but #1 - my screw up is less costly... #2 - I learn something #3 - doing it yourself is much more satisfying

I would love to do that. But I'm far from that kind of money to be building and tooling up my own shop. Just a poor guy wanting some help and willing to pay for it. But hard to find people like me that stand behind their work.

[GregWeld]

MX -- I totally get that part - trust me.... But it is the reason I built my own shop. Multiple car projects - multiple issues with bad shops... However, I know this doesn't fit most peoples cases... as usual - I was just trying to be somewhat humorous. :cheers:

[chr2002ca]

I can screw it up just as good as the next guy - but #1 - my screw up is less costly... #2 - I learn something #3 - doing it yourself is much more satisfying

Bravo! Words I live by also. :thumbsup:

MX - Sorry to hear about all your wheel troubles. There have been many of us that have had trouble with wheel companies for all sorts of different reasons. I've done my share of venting also. Just hang in there man!

[DRJDVM's '69]

So the shop that is doing your car did all the measuring etc and told you what BS to get etc, and you are paying the $400 to "re-do" the wheels?

I would have an issue with that......

[mxjunkie]

I do have a problem with them. But they are NOW out of thier space they leased. I was the last customer. They still have to try and fix why the car is riding lower on the passenger side, they can't seem to figure it out. Greg, your not to far from me. So if I need some custom work done in the future maybe I'll look you up.

And what's really funny is that I shipped my wheels UPS this time and the tracker still says they have been billed but not recieved the package to transport yet? For the last 4 days? lol. I love this stuff! :faint:
Turns out they just missed all the scans and still should be in Cali today.

[GregWeld]

I do have a problem with them. But they are NOW out of thier space they leased. I was the last customer. They still have to try and fix why the car is riding lower on the passenger side, they can't seem to figure it out. Greg, your not to far from me. So if I need some custom work done in the future maybe I'll look you up.

And what's really funny is that I shipped my wheels UPS this time and the tracker still says they have been billed but not recieved the package to transport yet? For the last 4 days? lol. I love this stuff! :faint:
Turns out they just missed all the scans and still should be in Cali today.

MX -- Looking me up is good - but I only work on my own stuff... I'm not a commercial shop... And there's not a single shop in this area that I trust to do anything. If you have issues with chassis and suspension - I'd contact Blake @ Killer Customs just a bit north of here... EH?

[mxjunkie]

MX -- Looking me up is good - but I only work on my own stuff... I'm not a commercial shop... And there's not a single shop in this area that I trust to do anything. If you have issues with chassis and suspension - I'd contact Blake @ Killer Customs just a bit north of here... EH?

Ahhhh, bummer! :lol: There's guys around here also, just with i could have a place to work like you have. Need to look for a Couger, or sugar momma.