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1962nova
10-04-2009, 08:40 PM
I recently got my car up and running after 5 years, and have put about 50 miles on the car so far. The car is a 62 nova, Total Cost Involved front Coil Over IFS/4link with coil overs. Still need to get the car alligned and put the front sway bar on, but my question is about the coil overs.

They are single adjustable All-American coil overs (TCI's brand made by someone else). I have all of the knobs at the 3 click on the adjuster (1 being the lowest, 12 the highest) It rides smooth and doesn't bottom out.

Are these mostly for ride comfort or for performance too? If so, how is everyone adjusting them to get the most of their suspension? How should they be set, and what should I be looking for in driving characteristics when adjusting them?

Thanks,

Kent

Norm Peterson
10-08-2009, 07:33 AM
Generally follow the Koni procedure. It's written for double-adjustable shocks (separate adjustments for bump and rebound damping).

But can be used in part for single adjustables (that are almost certainly rebound only with fixed compression) or "adjustables" that have one adjuster that alters both bump and rebound (I'd follow the "rebound" portion of the Tech Note in such cases).

Tech Note

KONI ADJUSTMENT TUNING GUIDE
Suggested Adjustment Procedures For Road Racing Use

Adjusting The COMPRESSION (Bump) Damping Control
(Very Important to do this FIRST!)
Bump damping controls the unsprung weight of the vehicle (wheels, axles, etc.). It controls the upward movement of the suspension as when hitting a bump in the track. It should not be used to control the downward movement of the vehicle when it encounters dips. Also, it should not be used to control roll or bottoming.
Depending on the vehicle, the ideal bump setting can occur at any point within the adjustment range. This setting will be reached when "side-hop" or "walking" in a bumpy turn is minimal and the ride is not uncomfortably harsh. At any point other than this ideal setting, the "side-hopping" condition will be more pronounced and the ride may be too harsh.

STEP 1: Set all four dampers on minimum bump and minimum rebound settings.

STEP 2: Drive one or two laps to get the feel of the car. Note: When driving the car during the bump adjustment phase, disregard body lean or roll and concentrate solely on how the car feels over bumps. Also, try to notice if the car "walks" or "side-hops" on a rough turn.

STEP 3: Increase bump adjustment clockwise 3 clicks on all four dampers. Drive the car one or two laps. Repeat Step 3 until a point is reached where the car starts to feel hard over bumpy surfaces.

STEP 4: Back off the bump adjustment two clicks. The bump control is now set. Note: The back off point will probably be reached sooner on one end of the vehicle than the other. If this occurs, keep increasing the bump on the soft end until it, too, feels hard. Then back it off 2 clicks. The bump control is now set.

Adjusting the REBOUND Damping Control
Once you have found what you feel to be the best bump setting on all four wheels, you are now ready to proceed with adjusting the rebound. The rebound damping controls the transitional roll (lean) as when entering a turn. It does *not* limit the total amount of roll; it *does* limit how *fast* this total roll angle is achieved. How much the vehicle actually leans is determined by other things such as spring rate, sway bars, roll center, ride heights, etc.
It should be noted that too much rebound on either end of the vehicle will cause an initial loss of lateral acceleration (cornering grip) a that end which will cause the vehicle to oversteer or understeer excessively when entering a turn. Too much rebound control in relation to spring rate will cause a condition known as "jacking down." This is a condition where, after hitting a bump and compressing the spring, the damper does not allow the spring to return to a neutral position before the next bump is encountered. This repeats with each subsequent bump until the car is actually lowered onto the bump stops. Contact with the bump stops causes a drastic increase in roll stiffness. If this condition occurs on the front, the car will understeer; if it occurs on the rear, the car will oversteer.

STEP 1: With rebound set on full soft and the bump control set from your earlier testing, drive the car one of two laps, paying particular attention to how the car rolls when entering a turn.

STEP 2: Increase rebound damping three sweeps (or 3/4 turn) on all four dampers and drive the car one or two laps. Repeat Step 2 until the car enters the turns smoothly (no drastic attitude changes) and without leaning excessively. An increase in the rebound stiffness beyond this point is unnecessary and may result in a loss of cornering power. Note: As with the bump settings, this point will probably be reached at one end of the car before the other.

However, individual drivers may find it desirable to have a car that assumes an oversteering or understeering attitude when entering a turn. This can be easily "dialed-in" using slightly excessive rebound settings at either end.



Norm

ccracin
10-08-2009, 09:17 AM
Generally follow the Koni procedure. It's written for double-adjustable shocks (separate adjustments for bump and rebound damping).

But can be used in part for single adjustables (that are almost certainly rebound only with fixed compression) or "adjustables" that have one adjuster that alters both bump and rebound (I'd follow the "rebound" portion of the Tech Note in such cases).




Norm

Good stuff Norm. That was easier than typing it all out! :thumbsup:

1962nova
10-14-2009, 01:11 AM
Thanks for the help.

Kent

Marcus SC&C
10-18-2009, 11:24 AM
Koni tech is GTG. I`d only change one thing. You`re already set quite soft, you`re not going to end up any softer than where you are now on a performance handling car. Start there, then do Konis procedure. Why? Because on many lowered ProTouring cars a couple laps around the block with the shocks set at zero may damage the shocks by bottoming out the pistons in the shock body, cut a tire, smack the headers on the ground etc. It shouldn`t but these are no longer factory engineered cars, they`re aftermarket mix and match parts and owner fabricated stuff and may not have factory safety margins for travel and such. I`m just sayin'. ;) Mark SC&C