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dplenzig
09-25-2009, 08:03 AM
I have been going through a divorce for 9 months now. I have been trying to finish and save this car, but I now have to sell it. I have spent the last 4 years and worked 2 jobs to build my dream camaro and I just got it running recently.
This car was completely torn down built with the best of everything. It is original straight sheetmetal except for the hood and trunk floor.
Here is a rundown of parts on the car. I have over $80,000 in receipts for parts.
DSE subframe
DSE Quadralink
DSE mini-tub
DSE Subframe connectors
DSE electric RS motors and bright headlights.
DSE wiper motor.
DSE battery relocate to rear.
DSE billet hood hinges
DSE solid body mounts with stainless bolts
12-bolt rearend narrowed 5 inches
3.73 posi
Moser axles
Wilwood brakes
13" 6-piston front
12.19" 4 piston rear
Wilwood master cylinder
Budnik wheels
front- 18x10
rear- 18x12
Pilot PS2 tires
275 front
335 rear
406 twin turbo motor
Dart block
AFR 210 heads
Crower 3.75 crank
Eagle rods
JE 8.3-1 pistons
Comp cams hydraulic roller
Jesel shaft rockers
Olson oil pan
Vintage Air front runner
Holley stealth intake
Fast XFI - 55lb injectors- dual sync distributor
MSD Digital 6
Banks turbos and manifolds
Tial 38mm wastegates
Tial 50mm blow off valve
TKO 600 transmission with .64 OD
Centerforce dual friction clutch
Magnaflow 3" exhaust
Interior is all new
Full dynamat on the roof and interior
DSE dash
Autometer carbon fiber gauges
5" speedo
5" tach
2 1/16" gauges oil, temp, fuel press, volt, boost/vac, 2 EGT, fuel level.
Fesler billet bezels for all of the gauges
Vintage Air Gen II heat & AC
Rock Valley stainless fuel tank
Aeromotive fuel system with A1000 pump
Ring Bros stainless bolts and washers on the front sheetmetal
I also have some new parts I never got a chance to install.
Nelson 321 stainless turbo headers
Hogans sheetmetal intake
D & D Chevy/ Viper T56 rated to 750hp
Pro car seats
Intercooler
I am sure I am forgetting something. I need to sell this to get a fresh financial start from this divorce. I am asking SOLD!
Car is in CO
Daren
tones2SS
09-25-2009, 09:30 AM
That is a killer car Daren. Sorry about your situation. Hope all gets resolved and goes ok. Do you have any daytime pics?
Good luck on a very nice car!!!:thumbsup:
Rybar
09-25-2009, 10:28 AM
Yeah sorry about your luck. That is a kick ass '69. Try to post some better quality pics.
Midwest Performance
09-25-2009, 10:31 AM
Price?
I like what I see. Wish it was for sale before I started mine.
Vegas69
09-25-2009, 10:32 AM
Pictures and video are everything. Do yourself a favor and take some good photos or hire it done.
tones2SS
09-25-2009, 11:37 AM
Price?
I like what I see. Wish it was for sale before I started mine.
I believe he posted the asking price.
Serpa69
09-25-2009, 11:39 AM
Nice car, you have a a couple of gauges to keep an eye on good luck with the sale
Spiffav8
09-25-2009, 11:47 AM
Sweet Car! Sorry to hear that you in such a bad position and are forced to let go of it. Take a lot of pictures! Everyone will be asking for more and the ones you posted don't do the car justice. I say that only because I want to see you get top dollar for it.
Best of luck to you on all fronts. Keep your chin up!
dplenzig
10-01-2009, 03:23 PM
I was told I am asking way too much for this car. I really don't know what these cars are selling for. Input from some of you in the know might help.
Thanks,
Daren
tones2SS
10-01-2009, 03:32 PM
I don't know about the price, maybe the others can chime in, but that is a KILLER looking car.:thumbsup:
Good luck bud!
GregWeld
10-01-2009, 04:48 PM
I was told I am asking way too much for this car. I really don't know what these cars are selling for. Input from some of you in the know might help.
Thanks,
Daren
Daren -
I'm not sure anyone knows the price of anything anymore... Cars, like houses, peaked a couple years ago and have been falling since then...
I'd toss it on eBay with a reserve set to the LEAST you'll sell it for - and see where the biding goes. Post GREAT pictures and tell the story and answer all the questions - and hopefully you'll get TWO people that want the car. If it doesn't make your reserve - but gets 'close', you always have the option to approach the high bidder and see if you can cut a deal.
Sorry you're forced to sell what seems to be a very sweet car. Start making plans to build another one... :thumbsup:
GregWeld
10-01-2009, 04:53 PM
Personally, I think the NEW Camaro has hurt the 69 Camaro market. For 40 Grand I can buy a 426 HP 6 speed car... and drive the snot out of it - and it has a warranty. While they're not old skool kool.... they seem to be attracting a LOT of attention wherever they show up. If the dealers weren't such rip-offs - I'd buy one tomorrow.
Vegas69
10-01-2009, 04:57 PM
Does it drive?
cdushane
10-02-2009, 08:47 AM
What color is the car? Who built the motor? Has the car been dyno'd, if so what is the hp/tq? Can you post some more pics of the interior? Thanks
sacarguy
10-02-2009, 09:19 AM
current market i would estimate 50 k unless you can find someone who absolutly has to have it ... its hard out there.. look at ebay at all the cars with 100 k in them that arent selling for 70 k or less.
i tried to sell my car wich i was offered 48 k for two years ago and it didnt even reach 30 k on on ebay..
car was a total frame off with less then 2500 miles on the 500 horse pump gas 383 dyno proven with all dse suspension and mini tub under it on 18x9 anfd 18x10.5 billet wheels c-5 brakes and dse dash and full restored ineterior plus custom 2500 wat sound system on 18 inch billet wheels.
NRV2L8
10-02-2009, 09:54 AM
I feel your pain. I went through a divorce about 15 years ago. Had 69 RS conv. and spent maybe 40K on that resto and 8 years of sweat labor, parts hunting and saving to finally finish it.
My wife at the time was after a slice of the car so I told her the Engine siezed up and it would cost a fortune to repair. She never mentioned it again.
There's no doubt you have a tidy sum inveted. Problem is 2 fold. 1) It's set up for Pro Touring and that drastictly reduces your customer base. A 100% stock restored 396 Pace Car would have trouble pulling down 80K. 2) As previously mentioned, the market just isn't there for your car at that price level. Mid 50's to low 60's would be my guess. It's almost impossible to recoup what you have invested. A 69 ZL1 is probably the ony exception to the rule.
Sell it cheap to a trusted friend until this all blows over and get it back.
Good Luck and I hope it works out the way you want it to.
dplenzig
10-03-2009, 07:29 AM
New price $70,000. I need to sell this.
Daren
camcojb
10-03-2009, 09:36 AM
New price $70,000. I need to sell this.
Daren
hell of a lot of car for the price in my opinion. Problem is people aren't spending money right now. I will probably be putting up my Chevelle for sale, and the market now is not good. You just need to find the right guy.
Jody
GregWeld
10-03-2009, 10:12 AM
New price $70,000. I need to sell this.
Daren
Daren --
Give Bob Fatore (fa tor ee) a call at Muscle Cars Northwest - Renton, WA
425-228-1600
Use my name as an intro - see if he's interested. Yeah he's a dealer - but he knows a nice car when he sees one. Yours qualifies.
If not him -
Call Mark Young - The Chev Connection - Portland, Oregon
503-257-9050
He too knows a nice car when he sees it.
I don't know that either of them would be interested - but they deal in this quality of car... So worth a call. IMHO
Best,
Greg Weld
BRIAN
10-03-2009, 12:24 PM
That is not your average EBAY $45K CAR. Problem is you need to take some time and get real photos and put a killer ad on EBAY. Cars still sell in the range you are asking. People always look more at cars with good clear pics. You can have a $500k car and if pics look bad nobody will give it a second look. 2nd you probably are into that thing for more like $100k with orig car, labor and parts. Would you buy a car listed as $80k invested for $85k Guys always think they can build for less.
Great looking car from pics and if quality and details are there you should get close to your number on EBAY.
GregWeld
10-03-2009, 03:38 PM
Good advice Brian - and RIGHT ON THE MONEY.
Best pixs - show any flaws - show CLEAN carpets (I've seen 'em with popcorn and wrappers on the floor)... and show ALL the details. The devil is in the details.
:woot:
fathomgreen69ss
10-04-2009, 06:57 AM
The current "economy scare" has got everyone puckered up as tight as a virgin on prom night. That is a beautiful car and I absolutely hate to see you have to part with your dream car.
dplenzig
10-07-2009, 08:41 PM
Sold!
vshadow
11-02-2009, 03:53 AM
Hello,
Sorry about the divorce. Been there, and it will get better. No words really make it any easier.
I would like to know if the Hogans and Nelsons went with the car or are they still available or would the new owner be interested in selling them or the parts that they will remove from your initial build.
I have no intake or exhaust setup yet.
advice on the turbos would be appreciated as well.
Sitting in Afghanistan and compiling parts and studying for when I return to my shop.
Thanks,
Bret.
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