Douche Bag Thieves

[novanutcase]

Some douche bag tried to steal my Mustang last night!:mad:

I saw him from my bedroom window dicking around my driver side door so I snuck up on him and we started brawling out in the middle of the street. I got him into a submission hold and my neighbor called the cops.

Why can't people just leave other peoples stuff alone!:(

Now my door lock is all jacked up although I never use it anyways but the door skin around it is all scratched from him using a screwdriver trying to pry the lock off the door.:mad:

John

P.S. I guess all those UFC fights I've been watching came in handy!:rolleyes:

[Vegas69]

Rear naked choke.....:thumbsup:

[Payton King]

have gone for the submission hold. I would have been looking to break a bone or two.

Your story made my day

[novanutcase]

MFer came at me with the screwdriver he was using to try and pry the door lock but when he went at me I tied up his arm and put an elbow into his throat and put him on the ground. He dropped the screwdriver as soon as I had him on the ground and my forearm pressuring his adams apple.:mad:

I was gonna do the "ground and pound" but, luckily cooler heads prevailed and I thought about this A-hole suing me for excessive force or whatever so I just kept him there till the cops arrived.

John

[XLexusTech]

Nice job. Hopefully you can get a restitution settlement. I can say he is lucky it was you and you were able to excersie some restraint. :cheers:

[ironworks]

Boy all that High powered firepower you own and you come out of the house empty handed. Good thing you don't live in Bakersfield, The cops here would just shoot him. I think it is a standing order, if you rob a bank you get shot in Bakersfield, many people from LA have lost thier lives up here for robbing a bank.


I can hear the ring announcer now

In this corner, JOHN...... NOVA NUT CASE......LIM.......The only guy they let fight in their 5.0 glasses and fancy blue jeans......

[ProdigyCustoms]

Oh, in Flordia all I have to do is verbaly confront him, he turns in a threatening manner, I feel threatened, and I can shoot him.

My wife, my kids, my cars, my dogs................. your done!

Glad you came out on top. I probably would not have risked it.

[clill]

What did the cops say ?

[RECOVERY ROOM]

Bad Ass man,I love it....Screw driver would get you shot around here.Glad you stopped the MFer.Could have done a little face grinding in the asphalt that's not to excessive.:thumbsup:

[Sideshow]

personally... I think you did the wrong thing. you should have just called the cops. I see too many good people get killed by doing something like that. now what if he was packing? what if you did do the ground and pound? don't get me wrong... I'm glad you caught him but could have been a different story really quick.

[MarkM66]

personally... I think you did the wrong thing. you should have just called the cops. I see too many good people get killed by doing something like that. now what if he was packing? what if you did do the ground and pound? don't get me wrong... I'm glad you caught him but could have been a different story really quick.

I agree.

That's what the cops and insurance are for.

[youthpastor]

personally... I think you did the wrong thing. you should have just called the cops. I see too many good people get killed by doing something like that. now what if he was packing? what if you did do the ground and pound? don't get me wrong... I'm glad you caught him but could have been a different story really quick.


YEP.. we had a dirt bag pull a gun here at work when confronted by a sales manager in the middle of the DAY- we still got him- but it could have been a different story- "man dies over confrontation of stolen property- valued at $20!!!"

no piece of metal is worth me touching a thief who might be might be HIV- or have a gun - or knife- that being said- I probably would have had adrenalin flowing and done the same thing- I HATE THIEVES!!!:D

[jy211]

I agree.

That's what the cops and insurance are for.

Yeah cause cops always are in the right place and right time :rofl: and insurance :rofl: that's another laugh...

Plus cops don't bother chasing car thefts...atleast around here.

Glad you got him..

[tones2SS]

Glad you got the assh!@#!!! That stuff pisses me off. A little asphalt to the face would have been cool, but it's probably better you didn't.:_paranoid
GOOD JOB!!:thumbsup: :cheers:

[Hdesign]

In MA, if he gets so much as a hangnail while breaking in or or hurt feelings while you trying to verbally stop him, you'll get sued and probably lose. I envy those of you that live in states where citizens are neutered. The criminals have more rights than law-abiding folks.

Had it been me, It would take every molecule (and then some) in my body to restrain myself.

Great job John!

[XLexusTech]

In MA, if he gets so much as a hangnail while breaking in or or hurt feelings while you trying to verbally stop him, you'll get sued and probably lose. I envy those of you that live in states where citizens are neutered. The criminals have more rights than law-abiding folks.

Had it been me, It would take every molecule (and then some) in my body to restrain myself.

Great job John!

a few miles north of Worchester its live free or die, CCW is 14 days away and go figure its number 1 on the best places to live in the US Per fourtune Magizine. Crime rate is LOW and unemployment is 4%... No state income taxes.. If it werent for the !#$% Snow and lack of car fun I would love it :woot:

[70rs]

That screwdriver can be considered a deadly weapon. The thief should count his blessings he still has a pulse. I'm glad you didn't get hurt or any legal trouble. I think you handled it good, but there was a serious risk to your life by making physical contact.

[69CamaroPT]

Like Frank said coming at you with a screwdriver calls for a round or two from the 45. Florida is pretty lenient on homeowners protecting themselves and property. I once had officer tell me it is better to be tried by 12 than carried by 6. I will live on the motto.
Glad you made out alright. The car can be fixed.

[nvr2fst]

Holy crap John!
Im not sure myself If thats was the right move. But in the heat of things sometimes thinking comes 2nd.
I had a F350 with about 1500 miles on it stolen out of my driveway about 6yrs ago in our lovely suburbs and seen it going down the street as I was coming home about midnight. I followed the guy to a gas station (while calling 911) and confronted him almost the same time the cops showed up. It doesnt make a difference anymore where you live. If your close to an on ramp to the highway there gone.
The future problem was that on the police report my full name, info, etc where known to him. Nothing became of this after he served his time but it definitely puts you in a cautious situation everyday.

Good to here it worked to your advantage!
Dave

[almcbri]

glad to hear it went ok and you got him

After having a knife pulled on me a few years ago by some trench coat punk it has opened my eyes. Glad your safe.

My brother got his new Denali broken into night before last. All they took were his CD's, wheel lock, day planner, and his business cards-like a box of them! He had his checkbook and garage door opener and a few other things of value in there that they left. He has some gangsta looking wheels 24" Dub, so they will probably be back.

[nvr2fst]

Boy all that High powered firepower you own and you come out of the house empty handed. Good thing you don't live in Bakersfield, The cops here would just shoot him. I think it is a standing order, if you rob a bank you get shot in Bakersfield, many people from LA have lost thier lives up here for robbing a bank.


I can hear the ring announcer now

In this corner, JOHN...... NOVA NUT CASE......LIM.......The only guy they let fight in their 5.0 glasses and fancy blue jeans......


Maybe he had some jeans in the car and thats all they wanted. You know the down jackets and nike stealing issues awhile back ago. John you better start making forged replicas of your product. Where you wearing your glasses when you beat his @#* Maybe the reflection confused him LOL

BTW- Rodger sure does pick on you alot. I think his closet is all gray Dickies. Can you make up some Dickie shorts with a Bedazzler rinestone machine

[JamesJ]

A few days ago, a kid in was staying at his parents rental house down the street from our shop doing some clean up after a renter moved out to earn some extra $$$ and a guy busted the door down and the kid shot him with a rifle, the kid was on the news and everyone was worried about him wanting to make sure he was ok after killing this guy.... not a word was said about the robber.... got to love TX

[cencal69]

I would have probobly done the same thing. I will not let anyone take something from me without a fight. If you felt you had the certain submission, go for it.

[montessaj]

Castle Law.... Gotta love TEXAS.

[ironworks]

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BTW- Rodger sure does pick on you alot. I think his closet is all gray Dickies. Can you make up some Dickie shorts with a Bedazzler rinestone machine


Hay I just go a olive green pair, but no bedazzles sorry

[T Bell]

Wouldn't this be a perfect scenario for the GPS Snitch? Call the police and give him the location the car is going. Meet them up, pick up the car and see the guy in court. So hard to do it the right way though.

[Hdesign]

a few miles north of Worchester its live free or die, CCW is 14 days away and go figure its number 1 on the best places to live in the US Per fourtune Magizine. Crime rate is LOW and unemployment is 4%... No state income taxes.. If it werent for the !#$% Snow and lack of car fun I would love it :woot:


Half my family moved up there and a few moved down to FL....My wife's fam refuses to leave so I'm pretty much stuck indefinitely.:mad:

Unfortunately, NH is slowing becoming MA due to transplants that didn't like the cost of living here but they can't give up their free services and Nanny state politics. Cost of living is climbing in NH.

[chr2002ca]

Glad to hear that punk got what he deserved. I would've done the exact same thing, but probably worse(nail-gunned him to the side of my house and left a note for the cops and gone back to sleep).

Way to go man. Your story made my day. :thumbsup:

Of course, it sucks about your door. It's good your neighbors were available to dial 911.

[70rs]

I love the nail gun idea! A screwdriver and a nailgun, perfect. I have a coil nailer that rips them off pretty fast, he'd be stuck to a wall in a hurry!:lol:
The guy is lucky he just got scuffed up.

[kennyd]

in arkansas we will shoot first , hide the body second , then deny any involvment

[DFRESH]

Dude, great story. I must admit, it's nice to hear some street justice is done every now and again. If you've never been ripped off before (car, house) it's hard not to want to see someone pay for it, on the spot. The fact that you are in So Cal and still addressed this guy is impressive. It seems like thieves get away with everything down here and never have to pay, even when they are caught. Hats off to you for having the courage, and if we ever do business, I'll make sure you get paid same day since I know your personality now--LOL.

Doug

[fleetus macmullitz]

in arkansas we will shoot first , hide the body second , then deny any involvment

Sounds like what the the FOB gang brought to DC a few admins ago...

[HWY Nova]

I hope you were being sensitive as you were crushing his Adams-Apple!!!.....


--Eric

[HAULNSS]

Dead thieves don't sue........ ;)

It's too bad you didn't inflict more damage on him.

[fesler]

Good story, screw that guy and his rights, once he steps over the line into your yard he is fair game. You should have put your foot in his mouth who cares if you hurt him. In the old west desert were we live we get to pack so people like this don’t really do this kind of thing. Everyone around here carries guns to take care of people like this. You don’t hear about carjacking and that kind of thing around here and when you do they usually end up dead. Dead men cant sue

[novanutcase]

Oh, he got hurt alright! When he lunged at me with the screwdriver I wrapped his arm with mine and locked his wrist in my armpit. I hit him HARD with my elbow to his throat! I guess that's why he went down so quick!

Once he was on the ground I had a knee in his chest and my forearm on his neck!

He squirmed a little but as soon as I started applying forearm pressure to his throat he knew he was screwed so he dropped the screwdriver and relented!

My neighborhood is full of dog owners so people are constantly walking their dogs at all hours. Luckily my neighbor was walking his dog when this all went down so he just pulled out his cell phone and called 911.

I thought about it afterwards and, you're probably right, I should have just called the cops but I tried that before on another attempt of another car I had and he left before they arrived. I guess I let my emotions get the best of me but I was so pissed the last time this happened and I wasn't going to let him get away this time!

John

[Fluid Power]

What did the cops say ?

yeah, what did the cops say?

[ironworks]

Your avatar is kinda fitting now I might say.

[novanutcase]

yeah, what did the cops say?

When they walked up the guy was screaming bloody murder about how I had used excessive force on him, blah blah blah. They just told him to shut up, cuffed him and threw him in the back of the patrol car. They did tell me next time I should call them and not confront the guy but one of the officers took me aside and asked me how I took him down. He gave me a thumbs up and a pat on the back!!

You should have seen the look on my other neighbors faces!:lol:

They already think I'm crazy since I'm always working on cars in my driveway and my mustang is loud! They probably think I'm some super violent guy!!:rolleyes:

Your avatar is kinda fitting now I might say.

:rofl:

If jake would've been there I could just sicked him on the perp!(as long as he had a diet pepsi can in his back pocket!):lol:

John

[TreySmith]

personally... I think you did the wrong thing. you should have just called the cops. I see too many good people get killed by doing something like that. now what if he was packing? what if you did do the ground and pound? don't get me wrong... I'm glad you caught him but could have been a different story really quick.I would rather risk my life than watch my heart and soul being taken from my driveway, I am sure alot you guys would feel the same.

I beat up a kid in 7th grade for stealing my lunch. If it was my car, oh God they would be laid out on the ground with a broken jaw, nose, teeth etc... It takes alot for me to get mad, but once I do, all hell breaks loose and I loose control. I might not have had the restraint to keep from trying to kill him.

Boxing lessons FTW!

[ProTouring442]

personally... I think you did the wrong thing. you should have just called the cops. I see too many good people get killed by doing something like that. now what if he was packing? what if you did do the ground and pound? don't get me wrong... I'm glad you caught him but could have been a different story really quick.


That's right! Lay down and cower so you don't get hurt... no wonder the thieves and crooks think they can walk all over society.

Remember, when seconds count, the police are only minutes away!

I'm sorry, I don;t mean to be harsh, but it's time that we take responsibility for ourselves. Sure, it can be dangerous, but the present course of "leaving it to the professionals" hasn't exactly done the world wonders.

Shiny Side Up!
Bill

[Vegas69]

I agree.....the problem is these judges that rule in favor of these maggots. That crap needs to stop yesterday!

[zbugger]

Way to go, Bruce Lee!!! I keep a bat with me so I can do some real good damage if anyone is caught trying to rip me off. Self defense is self defense. Glad to see you didn't get hurt, but too bad in this state we can't do more damage without getting in trouble.

[jcal87]

To bad your neighbor wasn't Joe horn then they wouldn't have lived to see another day...thieves are just terrorists living in American.

[jcal87]

and being someone who had two motorcycles stolen in San Diego last year if I ever come across someone stealing anything of mine again whether their armed with a screwdriver or not there catching a bullet center mass and i hope it doesn't kill them but yet paralyze them from the waste down so they can live the rest of there life thinking about how FN stupid they were at one point and time let them be a wheel chairing billboard to others.that might have sounded harsh but thieves are the lowest scum on this earth along with rapist and child molesters

[YancyJohns]

This is better than an episode of COPS..
Congrats on nailing that piece of sh*t...:thumbsup:
When I was 25, me and my wife were in bed when I noticed a man trying to steal my Camaro. I ran down stairs and chased him over a mile and half into trailer park when I noticed, I was in my underware and in his neighborhood. I said to myself, you better get the H*ll out of here. Now, I have my gun carry permit.

[racebuicks]

this is why I am certified to carry a conceiled weapon. If nothing else I would have pistol whipped him...... You did the right thing. Now the punk will have second thoughts about stealing in your neigborhood. And Id bet he tells his friends too. Nice job!:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[Derek69SS]

I do think you were nuts to go after him unarmed... If he tried that here, he'd have been looking down the business-end of an 18.5" barrel pistol-grip Remington 870 loaded with 6 rounds of 00-buck.

[RECOVERY ROOM]

We can carry here also,never know who has what.Keeps them guessing ...Still say way to go John

[RECOVERY ROOM]

Your avatar is kinda fitting now I might say.

Only you would notice that..lol

[zbugger]

Scott, could you change his title from Senior Member to Resident Ninja? lol....

[novanutcase]

I got a call from the officer that took me aside. Apparently this guy has been terrorizing the neighborhood with a rash of burgularies and whatever other mayhem he's been causing so he said he wanted to just let me know along with the fact that the DA has decided to charge him with assault with a deadly weapon but only if I commit to testifying against him.

Trust me when I say "Yes" couldn't have come out of my mouth faster! I'm so sick of these thieves terrorizing our neighborhoods. I'm sufficiently armed so if he decides to retaliate when he gets out he's going to have an a$$ full of lead!

The extent of his endeavor:

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g170/novanutcase/PICT0079.jpg

Scott, could you change his title from Senior Member to Resident Ninja? lol....

:rofl:

John

[fleetus macmullitz]

Of course not everyone can defend themselves properly.
I'm looking to shore up my skills, so I did a web search to learn to dominate like this fellow. He said "It's not the size of the opponent, its their ferocity."

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Seriously John, that's great it worked out for you. :thumbsup:

[Flash68]

^^ Skip! Only you.... :lol:

[clay69camaro]

Heck no you did the Bad A$$ thing. Good thing you didn't get hurt or stabbed by some low life Mfer. I sleep with a Military Police knight stick next to my bed in case anyone gets any dumb ideas about breaking into my house or cars. You know I don't think pepper spray would have got you into any trouble either or tazing the hell outta him

[fleetus macmullitz]

^^ Skip! Only you.... :lol:

Thanks Flash, but I gotta give credit where credit is due...proper brain food.

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/1575/kennyrogersroastersnewl.png (http://img511.imageshack.us/i/kennyrogersroastersnewl.png/)


Now back to the 'Don't screw with John' thread. :D

[ROKN69]

That's right! Lay down and cower so you don't get hurt... no wonder the thieves and crooks think they can walk all over society.

Remember, when seconds count, the police are only minutes away!

I'm sorry, I don;t mean to be harsh, but it's time that we take responsibility for ourselves. Sure, it can be dangerous, but the present course of "leaving it to the professionals" hasn't exactly done the world wonders.

Shiny Side Up!
Bill

I must say, I have to agree with Bill's sentiments, here.

[Jay Hilliard]

Way to go! We have to stand up more against thugs like this and defend our family, property.

Here in NC, if he came at you with a screwdriver with intent to harm, you have the right to use deadly force.

[ironworks]

So did they say anything about giving you a parade?

[yoboy sawyer]

NO one owns a dog , I let my dogs do all the work and when the cops come i put them in the back yard . I have a american bulldogs and pit bull ! and when I say get the kitty any thing i point at is the kitty ! lol . great job !!

[rogue]

smart man on the submission hold. I'd have been quick to grab a weapon. I think you're smarter than I.

Cannot stand thieves. Great job :thumbsup:

[byebye67]

glad your ok man. you did the reasonable thing, you stopped him and held him until the police got there. i used to live near the miracle mile in los angeles and have had my fair share of encounters...glad to hear you defended well. sometimes the only language these meth heads understand is elbow to throat. i'm relieved that your unarmed skill was higher than his with a screwdriver hehe

[novanutcase]

So did they say anything about giving you a parade?

Yeah but I don't think I'll be attending!:rofl:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwjvgAfN658

John

[Moose]

I hope you were being sensitive as you were crushing his Adams-Apple!!!.....


--Eric
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

this just had me cracking up!!

great story.:hail:

[ironworks]

Yeah but I don't think I'll be attending!:rofl:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwjvgAfN658

John


Oh Geez, Wait till Kenny sees that, He will forget all about the shoes.....

But the Paint on the Pinto is pretty stylin.

[novanutcase]

Oh Geez, Wait till Kenny sees that, He will forget all about the shoes.....

But the Paint on the Pinto is pretty stylin.

:lol:

I figured you'd appreciate that!!!

John

[ironworks]

That might work really well on a nova convertible. It would sure look good with the brown interior idea he has been kicking around.

[novanutcase]

One of my neighbors had a camera and got the whole thing on film!:rofl:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2vT0sgrftM&feature=player_embedded

John

[radrambler]

:cheers:

WHAT A STORY.....
CONGRATS ON LAYING THE SMACK DOWN ON THAT S.O.B.
NOTHING LIKE A GOOD..I CAUGHT A DUMB ASS TRYING TO STEAL STORY....

GLAD YOU CAME OUT ON TOP...

TOM

[SteveMcqueenRules]

This guy stops a crackhead with a screwdriver using his bare hands and you guys try to brag about some gun you got?

Do you have some sort of ninja book I should read I need to learn how to do that.
A few of these:hail: :hail: :hail: :hail: :hail: :hail: :hail:

And to all the tough guys with the guns GIMME A BREAK just like John Stossel.

[novanutcase]

This guy stops a crackhead with a screwdriver using his bare hands and you guys try to brag about some gun you got?

Do you have some sort of ninja book I should read I need to learn how to do that.
A few of these:hail: :hail: :hail: :hail: :hail: :hail: :hail:

And to all the tough guys with the guns GIMME A BREAK just like John Stossel.

Honestly, it all happened so fast it was like a blur. It's not like I planned this all out as I was approaching the guy. I just reacted. One minute I'm all pissed off slithering around the front of the car and the next the guys on the ground gurgling. I guess I was so pissed I just went into automatic mode. It just kind of happened.
If I was smart I would have brought a tire iron with me but, again, I was all wound up and wasn't thinking. I just thank god that this idiot didn't have a gun. A knife I can handle for the most part but getting around a gun is near impossible and much more lethal.

John

[rwhite692]

in arkansas we will shoot first , hide the body second , then deny any involvment


Where I grew up that was known as:

Shoot

Shovel

&Shut Up

[Vegas69]

All these guys say they would have done the same but it's doubtful. I applaud you for taking a stand man.:cheers:

[Derek69SS]

This guy stops a crackhead with a screwdriver using his bare hands and you guys try to brag about some gun you got?A topic about defending your property comes up, and you don't expect guns to be brought up? If this thief had been armed, or even just a better fighter, we'd sadly be talking about a completely different topic. Looking at this from a logical standpoint, going after the thief unarmed is a good way to get yourself killed. I'm sure logical and rational thought didn't enter into the situation though... like he says, he just reacted.

And to all the tough guys with the guns GIMME A BREAK just like John Stossel.:rofl:If we thought we were tough-guys, we wouldn't need the guns. We'd just kick their asses. :rolleyes:

I commend the OP for his brass balls and fighting skills used to take this guy down, but in all honesty, I think it was a bad decision and he got lucky.

[mazspeed]

Top man John. Way to defend your property. Yeah calling the cops sounds nice, but once you confront someone at your house, they are not likely to come back. If he does, then you kill him. I don't care if the property is only worth $20 dollars, it's your property and if someone thinks he can take something that belongs to you, then he absolutely deserves some street justice. Thumbs up to you John.

[novanutcase]

I commend the OP for his brass balls and fighting skills used to take this guy down, but in all honesty, I think it was a bad decision and he got lucky.

I agree with you Derek. My confronting him was probably not the smartest thing to do.

Now that I've had a chance to think about it the situation could have gone very badly. I guess whatever logic I had in that heightened state was to at least confront the guy face to face so that he knew I wan't going to just lay down. I thought that he would just run away. I didn't expect him to lunge at me like that. Once the adrenalin took over it was all a blur!

Most perps understand the response time and how the legal system works(or doesn't work for the most part!). I had a retail store and thieves would do "smash and grabs" by breaking the storefront window and taking as much as they could within a few minutes. They knew that the cops couldn't get there that fast and it took at least that long for the alarm company to call me first and for me to authorize them to call the cops.

I guess, at the time, something snapped in me and I just said "NO MORE!"

John

[M.Harrigan]

check this out!! http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=4356715
Vernon Forrest, a recent WBC junior middleweight champion, was killed Saturday as he chased at least two men who had tried to steal his car, police said.