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pitstain
07-16-2009, 06:56 PM
I can never leave well enough alone, and Air Ride does not help that problem one little bit........they just keep making cooler and better stuff, and I nor any of you can resist something when it is "cooler or better".....:willy:

Last year I pulled the trigger on a full set of Shockwaves and the Air Ride levelpro/ridepro e2 control system, I took it to the road course at Watkins Glen International, and as you guys know that damn air suspension layed the smack down on the track, much to the surprise of alot of people.

The parts: http://www.lateral-g.net/forums/showthread.php4?t=14889

The build: http://www.lateral-g.net/forums/showthread.php4?t=15816

The track: http://www.lateral-g.net/forums/showthread.php4?t=16472


Before purchasing the shockwaves I was chatting with one of the engineers there about how I would love if someday they made shockwaves based on a high pressure gas monotube shock, as that is a proper road race shock.

Seems the guys at Airride were thinking the same thing and built these bad boys. The Shockwaves are based on a Chris Alston Vari-Shock, which is a great high quality twin tube shock.

The new Shockwave Titanium units are based on an AFCO M2 "Traction" shock, which is a very pimp racing item, and even tougher than the already stout standard shockwave. They also have the new Infrared internal ride height sensors by default, whereas they are an option on the standard shockwaves.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2597/3727750704_c5db255187_b.jpg

Double adjustable, just like the previous twin-tube Varishock based shockwaves, but now monotube, with external resevoir and 100psi of Nitrogen gas :)

Compression rebound adjuster:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2659/3727752548_3ec14583f8_b.jpg

Rebound adjuster:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2489/3726950001_839d305fef_b.jpg

No more urethane bushings for me, I went with a 5/8" upper bearing and a spherical lower with the t-bar mount for our lower control arms, which is a perfect fit. This picture also shows the swivel banjo connection for the hose that feeds oil to and from the external canister.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2581/3727753832_a15a0c9895_b.jpg

Even the Nitrogen pressure is adjustable if needed, mine were charged to 100psi, but they can be charged up to 200psi or as low as, well nothing, so there is a standard tire stem style valve for charging.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2436/3726951937_771443a7f5_b.jpg

Now the standard shockwaves are nothing to laugh at, they handle and ride amazingly well, but I have been dreaming of something like this.


Last night I pulled out my spiffy original shockwaves and dropped in the new Titanium units.

before:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3506/3726956489_73b3b69d77_b.jpg

After: (not very dramatic since they are the same size....)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3200/3726961163_627138d5aa_b.jpg

My TEMPORARY mounting of the external canisters, I needed to do mockup first, I ordered some tidy clamps today....don't bust my balls. :bolt

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2539/3727764450_7138ac7ee2_b.jpg



Now my impression on these new and improved shockwaves.

Ride quality is just as smooth, but the control over dips is improved quite a bit, I am still playing with the compression and rebound settings, but initial results are great.

Brake dive is controlled even better, a nice gas monotube excels in this respect over conventional twin tube shocks without having to crank the valving up to the point of discomfort.

With the sperical breaings as opposed to the urethane I found the steering response to be improved as well, with NO increase in perceived road noise or harshness whatsoever.

I only put these on the front so I can quantify the changes, and it is easily noticeable now when the front and rear tires hit the same bump, due to the nitrogen bladder in the Titaniums, they soak up small road imperfections much better, I only know I drove over something small when the rear tires hit it now, and when I hit something big the difference is readily apparent. These is a reason road race cars AND baja trucks run external resevoir shocks, THEY WORK !! and keep the tires smoothly and firmly in contact with the road.

Well that is all for now, I will get more seat time with these bad boys, and add in the Titaniums in the rear of the truck as well soon, but I am very pleased so far.

Great job Air Ride !! :hail:

syborg tt
07-17-2009, 09:56 AM
Ian, they look great.

I am really considering these on the Camaro project so any impressions you have please post them up.

JRouche
07-17-2009, 11:29 PM
You sick bastard!!! LOL Im jealous!!! I am just now putting in the regular shockwaves and went to their site for a looksee at something else and saw the titanium shockwaves. Crap!!! They seem to be developing stuff quicker than I can keep up with. Ummm, not too fast for you though. :) SWEET!! Thanks for the kick in the nutts :) Looking good. JR

GMracer
07-18-2009, 05:57 PM
Im still waiting for mine, they had to make them to fit my application I guess. Can't wait to get them in, looks good!

Vegas69
07-18-2009, 07:51 PM
I'd use at least one more zip tie......:rofl:

pitstain
07-20-2009, 09:10 AM
Ian, they look great.

I am really considering these on the Camaro project so any impressions you have please post them up.

One of the many impressions that stood out was how much easier my front end lifts when I give them pressure, between the new shock and the the spherical ends they have much less friction, the truck just pops up to the correct height with much less effort.

I still need seat time to play with the adjustments more, but I forsee these being the hot Air Ride item for those of us who opentrack, drag race, or auto-x alot, or those who just need the best possible everything.

You sick bastard!!! LOL Im jealous!!! I am just now putting in the regular shockwaves and went to their site for a looksee at something else and saw the titanium shockwaves. Crap!!! They seem to be developing stuff quicker than I can keep up with. Ummm, not too fast for you though. :) SWEET!! Thanks for the kick in the nutts :) Looking good. JR

I have gotten that response from a couple of people so far :rofl:

[nut kick]
Wait till you see the rear titaniums once they are built....yeah I am putting them in the rear as well.....[/nut kick]

Im still waiting for mine, they had to make them to fit my application I guess. Can't wait to get them in, looks good!

Yeah the build time too a little longer since I use a rather custom size on my truck, same for the rear, I want them a certain length with certain mounts, so it take a little time.


I'd use at least one more zip tie......:rofl:

They ARE Ferrari spec zip ties though.....my stainless steel clamp came in today from McMaster-Carr for fitting, so the zip ties wont be there long, it was mainly to see if the tire would rub on them at full lock.

Finding a place to mount the external canisters is a bit challenging on a production vehicle.

pitstain
08-03-2009, 03:16 PM
Figured I would update the thread, at least to prove I do not love zip-ties as much as some may think.

I picked up some stainless steel 2" clamps from McMaster, and lined them with mastic. The guys at Air Ride are working on Billet clamps, which I may go for, but these are fine for now, or the next 5 years.....

Pardon the craptastic pictures, I forgot the Nikon at home, so the iPhone had to do the job.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2424/3786807130_ebfbf85905_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3452/3786808500_a867e299d1_b.jpg

I must add, after 3 hours on the road yesterday, I have determined I love these new Shockwaves, they literally float over road imperfections, but stick in the corners like nothing I have ever experienced. The standard Shockwaves were great, but really, the Titanium series are well worth the small additional cost.

ProdigyCustoms
08-03-2009, 07:38 PM
We used them on the Bull Run Racer and LOVE them. Really a awesome ride and tun-ability

We mounted our reservoirs on the inner fenders


http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u212/ProdigyCustoms/DSC_0151.jpg

GMracer
08-05-2009, 08:29 AM
I got mine in, check my build thread.

pitstain
08-05-2009, 11:50 AM
To quote you Nick, "FedEx can not come fast enough"

My rear titaniums should be here tomorrow, Damn FedEx.......:willy:

PASD U
08-15-2009, 02:03 AM
Hmmmm. After several hours of looking for this information (Search: Titanium) I have finally found a beginning to my answer. Am considering an ART system for my Chevelle and thru all of my research and procrastination they've developed these. So..any and every little detail of information you can throw my way will only help me. I'm here to soak it all up. I have a headache (ughhh) I've been reading so much between this and the Accuair setup.

I do sort of understand the remote canisters but could you break it down a little more for me? If you don't mind. If it's not cool in the post, I'd be happy to have it in a PM or email.

amber@ridetech
08-20-2009, 04:49 AM
I do sort of understand the remote canisters but could you break it down a little more for me?

Some of the benefits of a remote reservoir shock are increased fluid capacity, which keeps the oil cooler so you experience less aeration and fade; plus you get all the benefits of a monotube (larger piston, faster heat dissipation, and gas charge) without sacrificing stroke lengths. The Titaniums also offer a finer range of adjustment and since the adjusters are now on the shaft/canister, they're generally easier to get to. Let me know if you have any questions. :)

PASD U
08-20-2009, 01:51 PM
Hi Amber. Welcome to Lat-G. Thanks for the reply. I suppose right now I'm looking for more real world testing and analysis. Looks like I'll have to wait and see though.

amber@ridetech
08-21-2009, 05:00 AM
No problemo; thanks for the welcome! :cheers: As far as real-world info goes, just let me know what you're thinking and maybe I can help. I've had the Titaniums on my daily-driver (4th gen T/A) for over a year now, not to mention the cars in the Ridetech stable that are also equipped. :patriot:

JRouche
08-23-2009, 07:11 PM
Some of the benefits of a remote reservoir shock are increased fluid capacity,:)

Number one gain IMO. A shock, being a fluid controlled device benefits from more fluid. Heat issues aside. You covered that already :) Thanks.

A fluid is incompressible (for the most part) so you would think a larger volume of fluid in the shock wouldnt make any diff, and it doesnt, in the shock. Its gonna react to the changes it sees with any amount of fluid. But.... It is still subjected to aeration, call it contamination of the fluid with the gas in the system.

So with a larger volume of fluid the gas "contamination" can be limited to a remote reservoir, out of the shock body. Yeah, you will still have aeration in the reservoir, but it is much less than in the shock body where all the action is and the design of the shock causes some dramatic turbulence, if the gas head is right there, in the shock it will cause some contamination . If the reservoir is made correctly then it can be held to a very small amount of turbulence. Verses the turbulence of a shock body.

Mixing of the gas and oil is a bad thing in the shock body. So if you can make a remote reservoir that lends itself to a less active environment then the gas stays in its area and the oil stays in its area. So now you have the shock operating in a completely gas free (no bubbles) fluid, thats a GOOD thing...

As far as I figure LOL Im not a shock guy so what the hell :) Just seat of the pants feeling for me. The tech folks like Amber have the real issues laid out. :) JR

PASD U
08-24-2009, 09:09 AM
No problemo; thanks for the welcome! :cheers: As far as real-world info goes, just let me know what you're thinking and maybe I can help. I've had the Titaniums on my daily-driver (4th gen T/A) for over a year now, not to mention the cars in the Ridetech stable that are also equipped. :patriot:


What other mods do you have suspension wise? I know it's a completely different car BUT it'll help me gauge what's up. Mainly I'm curious about wheels/tires/suspension and I guess anything that adds relative weight (engine size, 8 12" subs in the rear). And I suppose I could also ask how low (or high) you keep it at ride height and your impression of imperfections, potholes/speedbumps/railroad tracks and general highway manners. I thought there would be more comments but maybe there aren't enough people out there running this level.

amber@ridetech
08-25-2009, 05:35 AM
...I thought there would be more comments but maybe there aren't enough people out there running this level...
The Titaniums have only been out for a matter of weeks...give it time :thumbsup:

What other mods do you have suspension wise? I know it's a completely different car BUT it'll help me gauge what's up. Mainly I'm curious about wheels/tires/suspension and I guess anything that adds relative weight (engine size, 8 12" subs in the rear). And I suppose I could also ask how low (or high) you keep it at ride height and your impression of imperfections, potholes/speedbumps/railroad tracks and general highway manners.

Other than front ShockWaves, rear CoolRide with Titaniums, and the home-built 'AirPod' (man do I wish we offered the AirPod when i first installed my system, :P ), she's all stock (albeit rebuilt engine/trans) including tires/wheels (235/55 R16, IIRC). Weight-wise nothing special; although as my DD, I often use it to haul everything from groceries to large amounts of landscaping materials and a couple hundred pounds of horse feed at least once a week. She handles it all very well; I just throw a few lbs of air at her when I load up and we're on the way. Ride-height really only dropped about an inch; however, I routinely ride with it intentionally too low for various reasons and with the shocks pretty soft. I've got some pretty mean country roads on my commute and I'm intensely pleased with how the Titaniums handle everything, railroad tracks included. There are two particularly weird swoopy potholes that I get a touch of tire-rub on but that would stop if I'd just turn the shocks up another click or two or quit ridin' so low. Another thing I really like about the Titaniums is not having to lay on the ground and feel around behind the tire to adjust them :theresa:
Let me know if you need something more specific than that; I tend to ramble on, so I'll stop myself here :yes:

PASD U
09-01-2009, 10:42 AM
Amber, I imagine you guys are encouraged to field test all that stuff too. I'm sure the process of run-of-the-mill, everyday lifestyle R&D is priceless.


We used them on the Bull Run Racer and LOVE them. Really a awesome ride and tun-ability

We mounted our reservoirs on the inner fenders


http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u212/ProdigyCustoms/DSC_0151.jpg

Where'd you guys source the clamps? Nice pieces.