C6 Suspension and Drivetrain under a 1969 Camaro under construction @ Ironworks.

[J2SpeedandCustom]

Love the car! I really like reading and watching builder/owners thought processes and outcome on their ideas of a design. :thumbsup:

Can I ask what made you all put the vent relief behind the front wheel? Is it a functional item or just part of the design?

[96z28ss]

Thanks, Im all ears on comments. Do you mean in overall, or the height of it. This is to be in line with the quarter panel speed line, other wise it may have looked out of place, but Im not sure considering we dont have mock ups doing it a different aspect. For reference kinda picture the Roaster shop Challenger bumper. I got the idea from a Bo Zolland rendering he did of a 69

I think it looks good that the bumper is up to the style line on the quarter. I think in my opinion ($.02) that it's looks big on the side of the quarter panel I think it would look killer if it was somewhere between what you have and what a rear bumper on a 70 cuda looks like. Also depends on what finish will be on the bumper, if it gets painted body color then it won't be as noticible and will blend in, if it gets a chrome or brushed finish the it will be more noticible .

[tellyv]

looking bad ass Dave!!!:thumbsup:

[Camaroguy]

Man the car looks killer! I can just imagine all the labor time in doing the chassis and mods to the car, is there a timeline for the car to be done? I am sure it is the old saying it is done when its done, but do you have any idea because this one will turn some heads!

[DFRESH]

Dave, all you need is a TT Lambo, and I may start calling you SW.

Car is more than amazing--I bet it was tough to say "Sure Roger, go ahead with all those ideas"---any risks you took certainly appear to be worth the reward. That thing is Bad A dude---I think a new bar is being set by Ironworks here. :wow:

Doug

[Kendall Burleson]

Rodger Killer Job! are you going to run that beast on the autocross & road trip Power Tour 2011 or will it be done for SEMA 2011 can't wait to see it finish.Show it bare it is that nice.:hail: :hail: :hail:

[ironworks]

Thanks guys for all the props. The guys in my shop have really been working hard to bring the ideas into reality. There has been a ton of work just on the passenger side of the car, we have not touched the drivers side yet. About the only original sheetmetal is the section in the quarter with the gills and the section below the speed line in the door. Dave and I have had many late night discussions about the direction of the car. Many of them have ended in the words "Just Trust Me" as I hang up the phone and think to myself, are you sure about this Rodger....

This car is pushing the envelope in more ways then one. The mods maybe new to the Protouring scene, but they have been doing this stuff to streetrods for years. As far a certain goals for the car, I'm working towards having the car in our booth at Del Mar this year. We hope to unveil 2 projects at that show. ( One will be a giveaway car with our prototype chassis under neath it :D :D :D :D :D, nothing for sure yet but it should be given away in 2011 ). We still have alot of work ahead of us just to get to Del Mar, let alone get it completed.

MAYBE 2011....

[GvEman]

Just Amazing! The chassis is awesome! And the body looks like its gona be a killer! Awesome! :bow:

[Kendall Burleson]

Thanks guys for all the props. The guys in my shop have really been working hard to bring the ideas into reality. There has been a ton of work just on the passenger side of the car, we have not touched the drivers side yet. About the only original sheetmetal is the section in the quarter with the gills and the section below the speed line in the door. Dave and I have had many late night discussions about the direction of the car. Many of them have ended in the words "Just Trust Me" as I hang up the phone and think to myself, are you sure about this Rodger....

This car is pushing the envelope in more ways then one. The mods maybe new to the Protouring scene, but they have been doing this stuff to streetrods for years. As far a certain goals for the car, I'm working towards having the car in our booth at Del Mar this year. We hope to unveil 2 projects at that show. ( One will be a giveaway car with our prototype chassis under neath it :D :D :D :D :D, nothing for sure yet but it should be given away in 2011 ). We still have alot of work ahead of us just to get to Del Mar, let alone get it completed.

MAYBE 2011....The guys in the shop have done a big parts of all builds I love their work BUT you have to have to put a face with the word Ironworks and that happen to be you. Good or Bad press Your guys are Killer Fab guys Good Job.:wow: :wow:

[ironworks]

The guys in the shop have done a big parts of all builds I love their work BUT you have to have to put a face with the word Ironworks and that happen to be you. Good or Bad press Your guys are Killer Fab guys Good Job.:wow: :wow:

Like I have always said, it is a team effort around here. From the after school kid cleaning the bathrooms and keeping the shop floor swept, all the way up the food chain to myself. We all have a hand the out come of each project. Without one spoke it would be a pretty rough ride.

Thanks

[WSSix]

and to think I was so excited to see the air jacks being put on this car. Did you guys even have a clue it would start to unfold like this back when y'all started posting updates on the car? I'm loving it and can't wait to see this thing done. If this thing isn't a finalist for SMOY, then someone better have an ungodly car there stealing the spotlight.

[waynieZ]

Rodger awesome work! Dave as far as going with the flow on "Trust Me" looks like a great decision. I love what you guys are doing.

[byron]

Ohh i can see you and I having a discussion about who thought of what first....at some point in our camaro builds. car looks great, just hope mine is done first so that I cant be accused of stealing some similar body mod ideas LOL:cheers:

[HOLOHAN'S HOT ROD SHOP]

Awesome work. Really great to see a shop that has some unique vision and is not afraid to act on it......Great work again...............

[HWY Nova]

More pics please!


--Eric

[Teetoe_Jones]

The motor is pretty much not decided since I sold the LS7

If you were a baller (I know that you are one) you would do one of these:

http://i50.tinypic.com/16715r6.jpg

Nothing says bad ass like a 427 dry sump C6R racing engine.

Tyler

[Garage Dog 65]

THAT right there will work Dave !!

[ironworks]

If you were a baller (I know that you are one) you would do one of these:

http://i50.tinypic.com/16715r6.jpg

Nothing says bad ass like a 427 dry sump C6R racing engine.

Tyler

That's alright if that is what your into, I guess. :D :D

[novanutcase]

Wish I had enough room in my engine compartment for that beast!:(

John

[HWY Nova]

That's alright if that is what your into, I guess. :D :D

Wish I had enough room in my engine compartment for that beast!:(

John

Dave, I'll design the frame mount so this motor will bolt in...... if that's what you are into.

John, I'd do the same for you..... if that's what you are into.


--Eric

[Vegas69]

I'd be in but where do you bolt the AC compressor?:D

[Teetoe_Jones]

For serious though...

I love every aspect about the mods done to the body. Don't change ANYTHING.

Tyler

[RECOVERY ROOM]

WHAT HE SAID:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[Kendall Burleson]

For serious though...

I love every aspect about the mods done to the body. Don't change ANYTHING.

TylerRIGHT ON!:rofl: :rofl:

[ironworks]

Just a few updates to make all the calls, emails and Pm's slow down for a few days..... Maybe.

Some progress
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Ironworks%20Update%20jan%202010/ShopPicsApril2010029.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/C6-1969%20Camaro/ShopPicsApril2010074.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/C6-1969%20Camaro/ShopPicsApril2010075.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/C6-1969%20Camaro/ShopPicsApril2010077.jpg

Both sides of the car getting caught up to each other. We are looking to start on the engine and front section of the chassis. We have been waiting on some parts to become available to build this the way we want.

[tones2SS]

Looks amazing Rodger. Great job by you and your crew.
Shop looks very clean too, by the way!!:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :cheers:

[HWY Nova]

Just a few updates........
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Ironworks%20Update%20jan%202010/ShopPicsApril2010029.jpg


Nice convertible Nova!


--Eric

[ironworks]

Nice convertible Nova!


--Eric

If that is what your into I suppose.....:D

[wiedemab]

ummmmmmmmmmmm - - - - WOW

:hail:

[KPC67]

Very cool!:thumbsup:

[War]

Dave should call that car Whiskey Hangover.

[RECOVERY ROOM]

No kidding!!!

[ironworks]

It's alright, if that is what your into.... I suppose.

[bigtyme1]

Just started getting into this thread, I only wish I could hold up to your standards. :hail: I may have missed it, but is there a rendering out yet?

[ironworks]

Yeah there is a rendering, just not posted publicly....

[waynieZ]

Awesome work. :thumbsup:

[phillym5]

LOVING those rockers on the Camaro!!

[RECOVERY ROOM]

Yeah there is a rendering, just not posted publicly....

You mean the one I have.....

[RS_Customs]

You guys just keep fabricating amazing toys! It's great to see the amount of creativity you put into your projects that is not only beautiful but very functional too.

Robert

[nvr2fst]

Dave should call that car Whiskey Hangover.
^^^^^^^^
The name doesn't fit the color LOL Its more a name for Tracy, "Recovery" Ha

[nvr2fst]

Yeah there is a rendering, just not posted publicly....

I dont plan on posting the rendering until were much further along. To many rumors floating around. We are waiting on some vendors also that are producing some new production parts we hope to be installing. I've established a great relationship with Ironworks and the work that they have done to date is top notch.

[RECOVERY ROOM]

That was a fun time,.....You know your laughing to hard and loud when your asked to leave the pool area!

[War]

^^^^^^^^
The name doesn't fit the color LOL Its more a name for Tracy, "Recovery" Ha

Oh details....details. You know I saw Tracy the next day but not you..humm. The only thing Tracy was recovering from was laughter.
That ol boy looks like he's conditioned for all nighters, I'll have to send you a bottle so you can start working out. I should have let the wife drive the truck back.

[nvr2fst]

We were in Carlsbad by 8:00 looking to rent a surf board for Jason. He attempted to surf and I took a cat nap on the beach :unibrow:

[next69]

Where are the updates?

[ironworks]

The updates on this project have been kept under wraps to keep some of the secrets a secret. I will tell that the oil pan we got a few weeks ago should come with an eyelet to attach a necklace to because it is jewelry. WOW

Rodger

[LSfan70s]

How much changes did you do to the suspension pick up points?
I mean, did you make a lot of changes to the anti squat, dive, roll centers, etc?
Would you share any of those numbers for us with personal projects trying to accomplish the same kind of project?

[DOOM]

COME ON ROGER just one little picture....:willy:

[ironworks]

Actually there was a pretty nice one in the Goodguys Gazette this month. Thanl God it is small. Don't want to show too much. But I guess we could show this one.

This will have to hold you over for a while.

http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/C6-1969%20Camaro/ShopPicsMay2010005.jpg


MMMMM PURDEE......

[Teetoe_Jones]

Fapfapfapfap...

[rocketman]

I think this car tops Johnsons Cuda.

[ScotI]

Fapfapfapfap...

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[waynieZ]

Wow!!

[GregWeld]

Can you take that oil pan to bed with ya... I would if it was mine! Put it under my pillow.... HOLLY CRAP! What a work of art!
:hail: :hail: :hail:

[fleetus macmullitz]

Group rate buy 10 save $6.37 on each one.

[Al Moreno]

I think this car tops Johnsons Cuda.

Rocketman, you should edit this post quickly or get ready to put on your FLAME suit.

That car is the Holly Grail around here!:yes:

[GregWeld]

Al -- Isn't it "the baddest 'Cuda on the planet"!


:hail: :hail: :rofl: :rofl:

[fleetus macmullitz]

Al -- Isn't it "the baddest 'Cuda on the planet"!


:hail: :hail: :rofl: :rofl:

Yeah Al, and where's the 'Most amazing oil pan in the universe' stuff too?!

We shouldn't have to write this stuff ourselves.

Slacker!



:lol:

[ironworks]

I think this car tops Johnsons Cuda.

I appreciate the compliment, But lets not put the kart before the horse. We still have a LONG way to go on this project to get it ready to line up for that title. With the ideas Dave and I have for this project we should raise the bar a notch or 2 or at least get people talking about how we screwed up a perfectly good camaro to build this machine.

Thanks again guys

[Al Moreno]

Yeah Al, and where's the 'Most amazing oil pan in the universe' stuff too?!

We shouldn't have to write this stuff ourselves.

Slacker!



:lol:

I know, I'm sorry for disappointing, I will try to do better... I haven't been myself lately :fluffy: ..where's a rock so that I can crawl under it..

[GregWeld]

I know, I'm sorry for disappointing, I will try to do better... I haven't been myself lately :fluffy: ..where's a rock so that I can crawl under it..


Take two Viagra -- and don't bother calling the doctor after 4 hours -- call EVERYBODY YOU KNOW!

You'll feel better in the morning...

Maybe..

:cheers: :woot:

[RECOVERY ROOM]

Call every girl you know:unibrow:

[RECOVERY ROOM]

Actually there was a pretty nice one in the Goodguys Gazette this month. Thanl God it is small. Don't want to show too much. But I guess we could show this one.

This will have to hold you over for a while.

http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/C6-1969%20Camaro/ShopPicsMay2010005.jpg


MMMMM PURDEE......


NICE DOOR STOP......

[GregWeld]

Call every girl you know:unibrow:

That's what I meant....

Why? What were you thinking?


:rofl: :rofl:

[Teetoe_Jones]

Saw this car in person today. Can't say enough about the level of awesome that is in this build. I don't know if I just plain missed it earlier in this thread but my jaw dropped and I squealed like a 12 year old girl in a make-up shop when I saw the air jacks mounted to the frame.

The rocker treatment, floor panels, body mods, and chassis are... Indescribable.

Can't wait to go back and visit it again.

Tyler

[Teetoe_Jones]

Your new wheels are SICK! Can't wait to see them mounted!

http://www.carbonfibergear.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/2-hre-carbon-fiber-wheels.jpg

Tyler

[JKnight]

You can't be serious Tyler....Carbon....hooops...No flippin way.

I'd seen the dymag's but didn't know HRE was getting into that game.

[tones2SS]

WOW!! Those wheels do look sick. I can only imagine the price tag on those. Whether the carbon fiber is real or fake, I'm sure they're costing a pretty coin!!:faint:

[Teetoe_Jones]

Oh those are legit carbon hoops on those HRE wheels. They come in at a feather-weight 17lbs in a 19 inch diameter.

The ones I posted aren't his actual wheels. He is going to do black centers instead of brushed aluminum. (Because I said so.)

http://www.carbonfibergear.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/4-hre-carbon-fiber-wheels.jpg

http://www.motorator.com/uploads/blog_images/0000/0863/HRE_Carbon_Wheels_4.jpg

http://www.motorator.com/uploads/blog_images/0000/0864/HRE_Carbon_Wheels_5.jpg

http://www.motorator.com/uploads/blog_images/0000/0865/HRE_Carbon_Wheels_6.jpg

http://www.motorator.com/uploads/blog_images/0000/0860/HRE_Carbon_Wheels_1.jpg

Tyler

[d touring]

I just mess up my Pants:D

[waynieZ]

Those are sweet!

[nvr2fst]

Your new wheels are SICK! Can't wait to see them mounted!

http://www.carbonfibergear.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/2-hre-carbon-fiber-wheels.jpg

Tyler

Guys,
It seems that Tyler has made my selections for me without prior notification.
Not sure why Tyler (hell I don't even know him) posted this but they definitely are sick. The wheels have not been chosen and Im far from making that selection. Im all up for having a little fun but I would like this thread to be more professional and ACCURATE, so lets keep it that way. I ran into Tyler at Columbus to give him a new shade of hair color for doing this. But if some of you know him, its his way of making the sale. Again good intentions, no need to thrash on Tyler I have that under control (I think).
No doubt the wheels are cool and the concept would be killer. So maybe he did make a future sale, will see. When I finally make a wheel selection it will be mounted on the car prior to photos in lieu of you guys asking if those HRE's are mounted yet.

I hate to see a thread posted ttt without real progress to view. I just needed to clear this up.

[tmadden]

Oh those are legit carbon hoops on those HRE wheels. They come in at a feather-weight 17lbs in a 19 inch diameter.

The ones I posted aren't his actual wheels. He is going to do black centers instead of brushed aluminum. (Because I said so.)

http://www.carbonfibergear.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/4-hre-carbon-fiber-wheels.jpg

http://www.motorator.com/uploads/blog_images/0000/0863/HRE_Carbon_Wheels_4.jpg

http://www.motorator.com/uploads/blog_images/0000/0864/HRE_Carbon_Wheels_5.jpg

http://www.motorator.com/uploads/blog_images/0000/0865/HRE_Carbon_Wheels_6.jpg

http://www.motorator.com/uploads/blog_images/0000/0860/HRE_Carbon_Wheels_1.jpg

Tyler

My gawd thats nasty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Teetoe_Jones]

Guys,
It seems that Tyler has made my selections for me without prior notification.
Not sure why Tyler (hell I don't even know him) posted this but they definitely are sick. The wheels have not been chosen and Im far from making that selection. Im all up for having a little fun but I would like this thread to be more professional and ACCURATE, so lets keep it that way. I ran into Tyler at Columbus to give him a new shade of hair color for doing this. But if some of you know him, its his way of making the sale. Again good intentions, no need to thrash on Tyler I have that under control (I think).
No doubt the wheels are cool and the concept would be killer. So maybe he did make a future sale, will see. When I finally make a wheel selection it will be mounted on the car prior to photos in lieu of you guys asking if those HRE's are mounted yet.

I hate to see a thread posted ttt without real progress to view. I just needed to clear this up.

Dave is good humored at least. These are the wheels I feel would be the only logical choice for a build of this caliber.
I did post these as kind of an inside joke between Dave, Rodger and myself. Only Dave wasn't in on it.

Tyler

[E.rodz]

dave nice build everything looks great keep the out of the box creativity coming! and roger don't stop what your doing it's working well you have inspired me a great deal thanks for that.:D

[Leadfoot1]

Dave is good humored at least..... Only Dave wasn't in on it.

Tyler


....Might be more like it Taylor.


Lol!

Lead.

[syborg tt]

I love the idea of Carbon Hoops. However they scare the heck out of me. Here is what I did to a set of Carbon FIber Mountain Bike Cranks while i was climbing up a hill.

There used to be chain rings attached to those tabs. I sheared the ring off the crank and yes my knee hurt like a SOB when it hit the stem.



Your new wheels are SICK! Can't wait to see them mounted!

http://www.carbonfibergear.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/2-hre-carbon-fiber-wheels.jpg

Tyler

[toddshotrods]

That's not carbon fiber's fault; it looks like poor design to me. It looks like they milled a critical mounting surface down to almost nothing. Beside losing critical mass, you would also be milling away a layer or so of fibers which ideally would be oriented to add structural integrity. Considering the possible legal implications, I would bet on the wheels to be properly designed. HRE isn't receiving shipments from the Far East are they? :_paranoid

[Teetoe_Jones]

I love the idea of Carbon Hoops. However they scare the heck out of me. Here is what I did to a set of Carbon FIber Mountain Bike Cranks while i was climbing up a hill.

There used to be chain rings attached to those tabs. I sheared the ring off the crank and yes my knee hurt like a SOB when it hit the stem.

Yeah, not remotely the same idea, or type of material. HRE uses a forged aluminum center with a carbon hoop. The center isn't going to fail, and the CF hoops are stronger than steel. If it does get impact damage they are toast though.

And no, HRE does not make their stuff in China.

Tyler

[syborg tt]

That's not carbon fiber's fault; it looks like poor design to me. It looks like they milled a critical mounting surface down to almost nothing. Beside losing critical mass, you would also be milling away a layer or so of fibers which ideally would be oriented to add structural integrity. Considering the possible legal implications, I would bet on the wheels to be properly designed. HRE isn't receiving shipments from the Far East are they? :_paranoid

here is there reply

Sorry to hear about the trouble with your cranks and we hope the damage to yourself is healing well. We will get you a new set of Next arms under warranty coverage. As we talked about on the phone today you can have your new shop contact me and I will set up the warranty claim with them. This kind of tab failure is not something we expect to see, although we have made some changes in the carbon lay-up to strengthen the chaintabs further. The new Next cranks will serve you well. Thanks for riding RaceFace.

[toddshotrods]

here is there reply

Sorry to hear about the trouble with your cranks and we hope the damage to yourself is healing well. We will get you a new set of Next arms under warranty coverage. As we talked about on the phone today you can have your new shop contact me and I will set up the warranty claim with them. This kind of tab failure is not something we expect to see, although we have made some changes in the carbon lay-up to strengthen the chaintabs further. The new Next cranks will serve you well. Thanks for riding RaceFace.
:rolleyes: :mad: Wow.

[next69]

Where are the updates?:willy:

[ironworks]

Well Let me see what I can come up with we were building the rear bumper today.

http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/C6-1969%20Camaro/ShopPicsSeptember2010039.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/C6-1969%20Camaro/ShopPicsSeptember2010040.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/C6-1969%20Camaro/ShopPicsSeptember2010041.jpg

[GregWeld]

I have some angle iron just like that -- ya shoulda called.
:D






Nice - as usual! :thumbsup:

[millerman340]

So that starts out as a piece of aluminum angle & contoured by the die ?

[ironworks]

It starts out as a roughly shaped STEEL piece that is ran through the machine to form the desired shape. The die was designed in Solidworks and water jet cut from 1" steel. We then shape the dies to form the desired contour. It has 3 bend radius's in the piece, we the set up each half to give it just tiny peak in the middle to go with the stock peak in the tail panel. Just a teeny tiny peak.

You can see where we marked the peak in the middle.

http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/C6-1969%20Camaro/ShopPicsNovember2009005.jpg

Here it is mocked up on the car.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/C6-1969%20Camaro/ShopPicsSeptember2010050.jpg

[coolwelder62]

Rodger it look's real good.You should take a break, if you keep thinking up more cool way's to build car's your brain is going to explode.:thumbsup:Ps is this car going to be in the death race II movie.

[ironworks]

Rodger it look's real good.You should take a break, if you keep thinking up more cool way's to build car's your brain is going to explode.:thumbsup:

It's not the building cars that will make my head explode. It is all the other crap that it takes to get to the point you can build cars. You have not even seen the half of it, This car will be SUPER insane crazy someday.

Sorry no death race appearance that I know of. Maybe. We are getting close to building the interior body structure and removing those things very soon.

[Bakaruda]

I can not wait to see more on this car.

[bentfab]

It starts out as a roughly shaped STEEL piece that is ran through the machine to form the desired shape. The die was designed in Solidworks and water jet cut from 1" steel. We then shape the dies to form the desired contour. It has 3 bend radius's in the piece, we the set up each half to give it just tiny peak in the middle to go with the stock peak in the tail panel. Just a teeny tiny peak.

You can see where we marked the peak in the middle.

http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/C6-1969%20Camaro/ShopPicsNovember2009005.jpg

Here it is mocked up on the car.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/C6-1969%20Camaro/ShopPicsSeptember2010050.jpg

Must be hot out in Bako? Looks like the poor kid in the pic has a wet towl around his neck. Get some A/C ! GEEEZZZ ! :rofl:

[GregWeld]

I'd work for free - have wet towel - will travel... :D

[kennyd]

making the kid work on a rack while standing on round pipes , well i see a workmans comp claim soon ! slave driver

[d touring]

Well Let me see what I can come up with we were building the rear bumper today.

http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/C6-1969%20Camaro/ShopPicsSeptember2010039.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/C6-1969%20Camaro/ShopPicsSeptember2010040.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/C6-1969%20Camaro/ShopPicsSeptember2010041.jpg

I would kill to have tools like that!:bow: Now give us some better pics of the bumper! LOL!!

[ironworks]

making the kid work on a rack while standing on round pipes , well i see a workmans comp claim soon ! slave driver

Well Thanks "Mister Safety". If you noticed the tubing is captured in the bottom of the chassis table, I'm sure you would have noticed that before one of your last accidents, Now with the metal plate in your head your unable to see metal bigger then the plate in your head, Kind crazy how that works but with as many impacts as you have had, I'm amazed you have a head let alone it kind works. I mean shoot what's a big canyon on the side of your head going to do accept scare little kids and old cougars away. :D :D

[ironworks]

I'd work for free - have wet towel - will travel... :D

Just let me know your no longer on Vacation from Vacation. You can start on your next project.

[millerman340]

Roger, did you finalise how the front upper shock mount will go? How is it going to clear with the solid crossbar for the upper arm? The amount of work on this car is staggering!

[ironworks]

Roger, did you finalise how the front upper shock mount will go? How is going to clear with the solid crossbar for the upper arm? The amount of work on this car is staggering!

No we have not. We are working to get the outside shape fully defined before we try to build a cage that fits perfectly.

[tones2SS]

Looking forward to more updates. The amount and "special" work into the car looks great. Good work Rodger and crew.:thumbsup:

[ironworks]

SO.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/C6-1969%20Camaro/ShopPicsOctober2010057.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/C6-1969%20Camaro/ShopPicsOctober2010062.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/C6-1969%20Camaro/ShopPicsOctober2010063.jpg

These pics are cool

[Teetoe_Jones]

Holy sh*t. Mother of pearl. That is wicked.

I wonder if my laptop gets wireless in the bathroom....

Tyler

[Swain]

SO.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/C6-1969%20Camaro/ShopPicsOctober2010057.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/C6-1969%20Camaro/ShopPicsOctober2010062.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/C6-1969%20Camaro/ShopPicsOctober2010063.jpg

These pics are cool

Looks Good Rodger..Very nice

[Al Moreno]

Holy sh*t. Mother of pearl. That is wicked.

I wonder if my laptop gets wireless in the bathroom....

Tyler


LOL, that aint right! :lol:

[pokey64]

http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/C6-1969%20Camaro/ShopPicsOctober2010063.jpg

Just cover the middle section with lexan! :thumbsup:

[tones2SS]

That does look killer Rodger. Awesome.:thumbsup:

[fleetus macmullitz]

Metal, meet thy master.

[War]

Looks alright I guess. Dam Rodger, what size rear tire you running on that?
I know Dave is short and all but that is low. At least he'll be able to wash the roof.:thumbsup:

[nvr2fst]

Looks alright I guess. Dam Rodger, what size rear tire you running on that?
I know Dave is short and all but that is low. At least he'll be able to wash the roof.:thumbsup:

I think were two inches lower than the ZO6 I had.
LOL Jason, The problem is the only time I see you is when Im standing next to Rodger. Its all about the abs and biceps anyway, height at the bottom of the list :lol:

[waynieZ]

The car looks awesome! Beautiful work.

[skatinjay27]

damn! thats just crazy looking!!!
thats really slick where you guys ran the rear down bars;)
would that even be possible on a normal body?

[novanutcase]

:brix:

I got to see this car a couple of days ago....WOW!!!! Pictures are great but when you get to see it in person it puts a whole new perspective on "OMG"!

John

[RECOVERY ROOM]

Holy sh*t. Mother of pearl. That is wicked.

I wonder if my laptop gets wireless in the bathroom....

Tyler

I'm not shaking hands with you:fluffy:

[ProTouring442]

Holy Jamoly! The amount of work that has gone into this car is amazing! And the amount of thought is even more astounding! :wow:

Now, about the amount of mirth... :D

Shiny Side Up!
Bill

[Anderson]

Wow, you guys have done a LOT to make this one not "just another" '69 Camaro. This is the best Camaro build I've ever laid eyes on! Incredible fabrication.

[ironworks]

Thanks for all the compliments, Dave has allowed us to take the car to this point. There is a considerable amount of work in a car at this level of quality. There has been a ton of planning and engineering so that nothing looks likes an after thought.

Thanks again

[next69]

Where are the updates??

[ironworks]

We have been keeping some things under wraps on this car. We thought that some other projects being built were stealing some of the design ideas and we wanted to keep it under wraps. We are still working o some sheetmetal mods on both the exterior and interior. The back end of this car is insane. I will see of we can post up a few teaser shots.

[scottysimp7]

Wow! This thing is insane!!!! Beautiful work. :hail:

[R.A.D]

looking forward to it

[WSSix]

I'm glad this car is still being built. So many fantastic ideas being incorporated into the build. Are there any plans for a reveal date?

[ironworks]

I'm glad this car is still being built. So many fantastic ideas being incorporated into the build. Are there any plans for a reveal date?

When It's done, We will reveal it. Projects like this take lots of time. Unless the customer is in a hurry and wants to pay to get it done on a deadline. It gets done when it's done. The speed of a project is determined by how much money the customer wants to spend and how fast a speed he can pay for the work being done at a given speed. There comes a speed in every project where you can only build a car so fast. But to build say a 100k car in 10 months means somebody has to fork over 10K a month. Just imagine that 2.3 million dollar car I posted up in the Fabrication thread. That was built in like 14-16 months, which is like 150k per month. :faint: :faint: :faint:

The car is coming along but it is not on any type of fast track. I'm just glad people are still interested in the project.

[WSSix]

Completely understand Rodger, and I'm glad it's not being rushed just so it can be revealed at a show or win and award. Quality takes time. Keep up the good work I'm sure you guys are doing on it.

[next69]

Any updates?????

[next69]

:ttiwop:

[ironworks]

Due to some pretty major family drama, Dave the owner of the car is forced to sell this project to get as much money together as possible to help with some cash that is needed for the family drama . Since most of you may not want to go back through how ever many pages to see the details. I will post up some pictures.

I will not post up the price they are looking to get as the real price really included in the cost to complete and with the level this car was built toward that can be really expensive. The car is currently semi permanently attached to a chassis table that is to wide to ship and cutting the car off the table would ruin the car. It need work just to get it off the chassis table.

http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Top%20Secret%20Camaro/ShopPicsJuly2011022.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Top%20Secret%20Camaro/ShopPicsJuly2011015.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Top%20Secret%20Camaro/ShopPicsJuly2011014.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Top%20Secret%20Camaro/ShopPicsJuly2011021.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Top%20Secret%20Camaro/ShopPicsapril2011023.jpg
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http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Top%20Secret%20Camaro/ShopPicsFebuary2011033.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Top%20Secret%20Camaro/ShopPicsFebuary2011032.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Top%20Secret%20Camaro/ShopPicsOctober2010063_zpsc0b1315e.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Top%20Secret%20Camaro/ShopPicsOctober2010062_zps4fdf6bc0.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Top%20Secret%20Camaro/ShopPicsJuly2010005_zps6c371b9b.jpg

We were beginning to start on the front end of the car now that the sheetmetal was now in place. The car was designed to run a 295-315 / 19" front tire and a 335/20 rear tire. It has 4.75" of ground clearance and is 47" to the roof if memory serves me correct. This car was built to raise the bar. We have tried to keep it pretty quiet, but now due to the family issues the car needs to be sold.

The car is to be sold to someone who would continue the work on the car and the level of finish can still be determined by the customer, but unless your going to make a rat rod out of it, it will still be expensive.

If your serious about something like this email me direct. [email protected]

Rodger

[syborg tt]

That's to bad i was really looking forward to seeing this car finished.

[ironworks]

Now that this project is to this crossroads. We can make the rendering public as the new owner will surely have his own ideas to bring to the table.

http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Top%20Secret%20Camaro/FinalVersion_zps05763cd4.jpg

The color was supposed to be pretty close to an antifreeze green color.

[ironworks]

That's to bad i was really looking forward to seeing this car finished.


It will still get finished, I just hoping it will be by an new owner and not by me. Even though I'm considering it. I have to sell some cars to thin the heard. I have bought too many good deals lately.

I have had quite a few people show serious interest.

[Ketzer]

Dayum, that sucks. :( Someone will step up and keep the dream going.


Jeff-

[Garage Dog 65]

Sorry to hear about Dave's situation. It's always difficult to pry your hands off your dream car and give it up for any reason...

Wishing Dave the best of luck in a speedy resolution to the issue !!!


:lateral:

Jim

[preston]

Apologies for mucking up the thread with a random question, but you obviously keep bare metal around for awhile. What is your process for protecting it ? Do you use a metal prep spray like Troy sells or just oil and elbow grease ?

[ironworks]

Apologies for mucking up the thread with a random question, but you obviously keep bare metal around for awhile. What is your process for protecting it ? Do you use a metal prep spray like Troy sells or just oil and elbow grease ?

Troy just sells a relabeled Gibbs bottle. You have to sand it down, no product eliminates the elbow grease without the sacrifice of weld ability.

We have a part time guy that is from BARC (Bakersfield Association of Retarded Citizens) that keeps everything in the shop clean. One job is to sand down the cars on a regular basis.

[xtreme]

How unfortunate! Such potential with this build.

[214Chevy]

The rendering is beautiful. Someone will get it and finish it the right way. Good luck and whatever brother Dave is going thru I hope and pray it gets better.

[syborg tt]

Troy just sells a relabeled Gibbs bottle. You have to sand it down, no product eliminates the elbow grease without the sacrifice of weld ability.

We have a part time guy that is from BARC (Bakersfield Association of Retarded Citizens) that keeps everything in the shop clean. One job is to sand down the cars on a regular basis.

That's pretty awesome that you use BARC. We use a simalar facility for piece work. It's the best part of my week when I visit the Facility everyone there is honest and genuine.

[WSSix]

I hope Dave is able to pull through whatever he and his family are facing. Good luck on the sale. I love the rendering.

[214Chevy]

Did this beautiful monstrosity ever sale? If so, to who? :thumbsup:

[ironworks]

Did this beautiful monstrosity ever sale? If so, to who? :thumbsup:

We are in the process of getting the sale finalized. It was purchased by a guy who asked me at a show about build a radical 69 camaro or mid year corvette. I told sir today is your lucky day and showed him this build thread. He made an offer that day, sight unseen that was the eventual selling price for the project.

The customer has few of his own ideas for the project and I'm sure it will take on the new owners vision but the old one will not be lost. I'm pretty excited to see it move forward.

[214Chevy]

We are in the process of getting the sale finalized. It was purchased by a guy who asked me at a show about build a radical 69 camaro or mid year corvette. I told sir today is your lucky day and showed him this build thread. He made an offer that day, sight unseen that was the eventual selling price for the project.

The customer has few of his own ideas for the project and I'm sure it will take on the new owners vision but the old one will not be lost. I'm pretty excited to see it move forward.

That's good news Roger. :G-Dub: Will Ironworks be finishing it? If so, keep the pics coming once the build is back on.

[ironworks]

That's good news Roger. :G-Dub: Will Ironworks be finishing it? If so, keep the pics coming once the build is back on.


That is the plan. I will see how much the owner wants to share. Alot of my customers now days like to keep somethings under wraps. :thankyou:

[WSSix]

That's good news indeed! Glad to know the car will be built. Hopefully the new owner will allow us to watch it come together.

[DETON8R]

That sure is one sick ride, good to hear their expertise and hard work will continue on this project. Just like the 66 Nova that Ironworks is building too.

Can't wait to see either one of them stalking the streets.

[phillym5]

Man... I love this build. Can't wait to see how it turns out!!

[ironworks]

Thanks Josh. We should finalize the deal this week. Hope to get it in the mix very soon somehow in the shop.

See ya in Del Mar in a few weeks.

[FathomGreen69]

This build is phenominal. Maybe best custom rear on a camaro ive seen. Of course, if Ben had something to do with it, I'm not surprised. Great work guys.

[ironworks]

Well the project is officially under new ownership and will get back in the mix for continued work. Check out this wheel mock up with the Gripp Equipped Drop kick wheels. Pretty sexy.

http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Top%20Secret%20Camaro/3-30-2013008.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Top%20Secret%20Camaro/3-30-2013007.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Top%20Secret%20Camaro/3-30-2013006.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Top%20Secret%20Camaro/3-30-2013005.jpg

Time to get the car out of the chassis construction area and into the fab shop again.

[EBMC]

Congrats Rodger! Glad to hear its back in the rotation, look forward to the progress.

[Ppd1979]

Can't wait too see more pics of this car.

[Greg from Aus]

I will be on the lookout for more inspiration to come.

Greg

[ironworks]

Thanks guys, now the real ideas will start to become reality.

[214Chevy]

Glad to see the build will remain under your hands Rodger. Keep us updated on the pics. Pinky swear!! :rules:

[ironworks]

Looks like this might be the new direction. Orange Paint with the Gripp Equipped Drop Kick wheels. Should be interesting.

http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Top%20Secret%20Camaro/orange_revision-1.jpg

Looking at a Whipple Supercharged LSX engine with the Wegner Front drive for the billet Dailey Dry sump pan.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Top%20Secret%20Camaro/orangewhipple.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Top%20Secret%20Camaro/WAK035Vortech33Lblowerdrive.jpg

Man I like orange.

[GregWeld]

'63 Grand Sport meets '69 Camaro...


Nice look.

[71RS/SS396]

I like the orange better than the green. Those whipples make some serious power, Kurt just put our blower test mule on the dyno last week, first pull it made 962 hp and over 800 lb/ft@3,500 rpm, the timing was only 13* and it was lean, we had to stop since it pitched the water pump pulley off.

http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af219/tmackg71/29dyno.png

[Sieg]

Man I like orange.

:yes:

Glad to see there's wind in the sails of this project again. Sad to see someone have to let it go.

[ironworks]

I like the orange better than the green. Those whipples make some serious power, Kurt just put our blower test mule on the dyno last week, first pull it made 962 hp and over 800 lb/ft@3,500 rpm, the timing was only 13* and it was lean, we had to stop since it pitched the water pump pulley off.

http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af219/tmackg71/29dyno.png

You will have to get me some info on the Kurt Urban Crate engine package. That sounds like it would be right up our alley. We are running the Whipple because we are have a really good connection in the fact the owner of the car know the owner and I met him a few weeks ago at a dirt race. And the owner of Whipple is looking to have us do some custom work on a big hp 57 Chevy he is building.

[66fury]

SHAAAWING. !!!!!!:thumbsup:

[tellyv]

You will have to get me some info on the Kurt Urban Crate engine package. That sounds like it would be right up our alley. We are running the Whipple because we are have a really good connection in the fact the owner of the car know the owner and I met him a few weeks ago at a dirt race. And the owner of Whipple is looking to have us do some custom work on a big hp 57 Chevy he is building.

Call Wegners they'll set you up and make at least that or more! (920)394-3557

[214Chevy]

That orange is nasty if I say so myself.

[Vince@Meanstreets]

That orange is nasty if I say so myself.

yup, straight Ms Jackson nasty. already pops.

[ironworks]

Well I'm a little behind on updating this project but let me see what I can get handled this Morning.

We did our first months worth of work for the new owner, Troy. We are working to try and get the engine as low as possible with the Dailey Dry sump pan that is on it. We have a ton of clearance under the pan but the limiting factor is the bellhousing. So we have been exploring going to a relocated starter with a triple 7.25" clutch from Tilton or QuarterMaster.

http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Top%20Secret%20Camaro/4-23-2013007-1.jpg (http://s616.photobucket.com/user/ironworksspeed/media/Top%20Secret%20Camaro/4-23-2013007-1.jpg.html)
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Top%20Secret%20Camaro/4-23-2013006-1.jpg (http://s616.photobucket.com/user/ironworksspeed/media/Top%20Secret%20Camaro/4-23-2013006-1.jpg.html)
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Top%20Secret%20Camaro/4-23-2013005.jpg (http://s616.photobucket.com/user/ironworksspeed/media/Top%20Secret%20Camaro/4-23-2013005.jpg.html)

The customer really wants to run a bad ass supercharged engine and he has great contacts with the guys at Whipple. So we have been exploring how to get a 2.9 - 4.0L super charger on this car with out having it look like a prostreet car. We have been playing with different ideas to try and make it really slick. If you notice this blower and manifold combo has a rear entry throttle body with completely hidden injectors in the manifold. This game plan would be awesome with the rear billet aluminum firewall we are laying out to design. Plus this low profile manifold and pulley system from Wegner might keep things under the hood.

http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Top%20Secret%20Camaro/orangewhipple.jpg (http://s616.photobucket.com/user/ironworksspeed/media/Top%20Secret%20Camaro/orangewhipple.jpg.html)
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Top%20Secret%20Camaro/WAK035Vortech33Lblowerdrive.jpg (http://s616.photobucket.com/user/ironworksspeed/media/Top%20Secret%20Camaro/WAK035Vortech33Lblowerdrive.jpg.html)

The blower manifold mock up in this picture is a little high still but, like I said we think we can drop the engine 2" still. The sheetmetal is just a mock up to begin designing a billet firewall that will be machine from 5/8 plate and become a lightened structural member of the car.

http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Top%20Secret%20Camaro/4-29-2013021.jpg (http://s616.photobucket.com/user/ironworksspeed/media/Top%20Secret%20Camaro/4-29-2013021.jpg.html)
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Top%20Secret%20Camaro/4-29-2013022.jpg (http://s616.photobucket.com/user/ironworksspeed/media/Top%20Secret%20Camaro/4-29-2013022.jpg.html)

You can see it still looks a little "Prostreet" with the full intercooler and such.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Top%20Secret%20Camaro/4-29-2013023.jpg (http://s616.photobucket.com/user/ironworksspeed/media/Top%20Secret%20Camaro/4-29-2013023.jpg.html)

You can see the way the aluminum firewall will set in the car around the designed frame pieces once it is built. It will go in from the front and bolt in from the interior.

http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Top%20Secret%20Camaro/4-29-2013024.jpg (http://s616.photobucket.com/user/ironworksspeed/media/Top%20Secret%20Camaro/4-29-2013024.jpg.html)

In this picture you can see how we have brought the upper tube crossmembers back to the reinforcement plate that goes inside the tailpanel.

http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Top%20Secret%20Camaro/4-29-2013004.jpg (http://s616.photobucket.com/user/ironworksspeed/media/Top%20Secret%20Camaro/4-29-2013004.jpg.html)

In this picture you can see the mock up fuel tanks we set up to define the perfect shape before we send the these to Rick's Tanks to make the dual pump system for this car to handle the Horsepower.

http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Top%20Secret%20Camaro/4-29-2013017.jpg (http://s616.photobucket.com/user/ironworksspeed/media/Top%20Secret%20Camaro/4-29-2013017.jpg.html)

[ironworks]

Once the rear diffuser is defined we will mount the battery in the center of the tubes but closer to the axle center line to minimize the swing weight.
You can also see the extension of the rear valance all the way forward to the back of the wheel tubs. You can also see how beefy our chassis tables are. You can't make a chassis table out of material weaker then the car and intend it to anything more the just jack stands. Plus you can't make the table and roller and expect it to be level where ever you move it in the shop. :idea: :idea: :idea:

http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Top%20Secret%20Camaro/4-29-2013020.jpg (http://s616.photobucket.com/user/ironworksspeed/media/Top%20Secret%20Camaro/4-29-2013020.jpg.html)

Finally here is the mock up of the pedal system that will allow us to make custom pedals that we can machine and give us a really nice steering column angle. Hanging pedals would be tough in this car as the reservoirs would be really tight to the hood and tough to fill and the hanging pedals would limit the angle of the column and require more angle to send it through the firewall below the master cylinders and inbetween the brake and gas pedal usually.

http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Top%20Secret%20Camaro/4-29-2013025.jpg (http://s616.photobucket.com/user/ironworksspeed/media/Top%20Secret%20Camaro/4-29-2013025.jpg.html)

We should start back on this months round of work next week. It is coming along nicely and I hope to start doing some heavy design work on the front end of the car.

Thanks for taking time to look.

[Al Moreno]

Dorger, :peepwall: this is going to be your EPIC build right there!

[ironworks]

Dorger, :peepwall: this is going to be your EPIC build right there!

Thanks, I'm sure this one will be awesome, But we have a build or two waiting in the wings that may out do this Camaro. We have two great repeat customers working toward out doing what we have already done for them by along shot on these new projects.... No pics and nothing else to say but just trust me they will be awesome.

Some people know the car I'm talking about. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[XLexusTech]

Holy thats Nice... this guy must be a billionaire :sarcasm_smiley:

[windycitychev]

Just a few updates to make all the calls, emails and Pm's slow down for a few days..... Maybe.

Some progress
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Ironworks%20Update%20jan%202010/ShopPicsApril2010029.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/C6-1969%20Camaro/ShopPicsApril2010074.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/C6-1969%20Camaro/ShopPicsApril2010075.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/C6-1969%20Camaro/ShopPicsApril2010077.jpg

Both sides of the car getting caught up to each other. We are looking to start on the engine and front section of the chassis. We have been waiting on some parts to become available to build this the way we want.

the pick of the over view of all the cars you guys are working is just a beautiful view

[ironworks]

the pick of the over view of all the cars you guys are working is just a beautiful view

Thanks, According to Greg, that's my normal view. I was standing upstairs when that was taken, don't believe the peanut gallery.

:sarcasm_smiley: :sarcasm_smiley: :sarcasm_smiley:

[HWY Nova]

I like this pic the best!

http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Ironworks%20Update%20jan%202010/ShopPicsApril2010029.jpg


--Eric

[Ron in SoCal]

Rodger thx for posting updates on this one. Can't wait for details on your pipeline builds :teaser:

I know Troy has a line with Whipple and they do make great power, but Maggie has a couple of new models that fit under the hood.

http://www.magnacharger.com/p-113-corvette-c6-62l-ls3-magnuson-heartbeat-supercharger-kit.aspx

Not sure if you're running a 6.2 or 7.0 and I'm sure you know their line up, but I thought I'd throw it out there.

[bentfab]

I like this pic the best!

http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Ironworks%20Update%20jan%202010/ShopPicsApril2010029.jpg


--Eric

:snapout: it's an old pic! Now instead of looking down on it... You can look up at it....:stirthepot: :lmao:


Rog... the car is looking bad ass! Now all you need is a good plumber :D

[HWY Nova]

Now instead of looking down on it... You can look up at it....:stirthepot: :lmao:




:lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao: You are a funny guy!

Ok....... Back to the awesome Camaro the Ironworks is creating!



--Eric

[preston]

I've never heard of anyone that was happy with a mini-clutch on anything street driven. Something for the owner to think about if this is going to be a driven car. I've seen a lot of people start down that road thinking "I will live with it" and invariably about 6 months later I see them going back to a 10.5" clutch or turning it into a track car. It might work with some of the newer CF bad assery out there, after all some of the exotics get away with it but I'd definitely do some testing on a mule somewhere.

I may be out on a limb here but with all the slick pro-tour cars we've seen I almost wonder if a hint of pro-street bad assery might not work, although, given the direction of this particular car, probably not. Would look cool on something though.

[Cole]

I love that First Gen Nova!!!!

[ironworks]

I've never heard of anyone that was happy with a mini-clutch on anything street driven. Something for the owner to think about if this is going to be a driven car. I've seen a lot of people start down that road thinking "I will live with it" and invariably about 6 months later I see them going back to a 10.5" clutch or turning it into a track car. It might work with some of the newer CF bad assery out there, after all some of the exotics get away with it but I'd definitely do some testing on a mule somewhere.

I may be out on a limb here but with all the slick pro-tour cars we've seen I almost wonder if a hint of pro-street bad assery might not work, although, given the direction of this particular car, probably not. Would look cool on something though.

Carbon triple discs work fine with big power on the street. The owner used to race sprint cars, So anything is better then a push start direct drive race car.

The customer wants the blower under the hood. And he is willing to do all way can to achieve that.


Thanks for the compliments guys. If Eric runs out of daughters to get married we might start back on the old 62 vert. Darrell is begin to pull ahead of Eric by a a ways in project Slow Motion.

[WSSix]

Love what you guys are doing with this car. Good luck!

[Darrell]

I think we should rename Eric's car,how bout project
MOOOOLAAAAASSSSSEESS (molasses):stirthepot: :lol: :lol:

[bentfab]

I think we should rename Eric's car,how bout project
MOOOOLAAAAASSSSSEESS (molasses):stirthepot: :lol: :lol:

I think Rodger hinted why the nova is upstairs and not down stairs. :headscratch:

Thank God I have boys !

Mark

[andrewb70]

Carbon triple discs work fine with big power on the street. The owner used to race sprint cars, So anything is better then a push start direct drive race car.

The customer wants the blower under the hood. And he is willing to do all way can to achieve that.


Thanks for the compliments guys. If Eric runs out of daughters to get married we might start back on the old 62 vert. Darrell is begin to pull ahead of Eric by a a ways in project Slow Motion.

Using a triple disk carbon/carbon clutch on the street is definitely possible and it should work quite well. A typical setup will run $5-6K

In order to get the required ground clearance, you would have to use a button style flywheel and a with a ring gear that is mounted on top of the clutch cover. Like this one from Quarter Master:

http://quartermasterusa.compperformance.com/media/catalog/product/cache/6/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/r/i/ring-gear_1.jpg

The main issue will be making a mount for the reverse mount starter. It may be possible to machine the Corvette torque tube bellhousing and weld on a mount that would accommodate the reverse mount starter. It's all doable...

Here is a reverse mount bellhousing that works with your basic circle track style transmission (g-force, rankin, Jerico, etc...)

http://quartermasterusa.compperformance.com/media/catalog/product/cache/6/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/1/1/110100r.jpg

You may even be able to take that bellhousing and cut out the starter mounting pocket and weld it to the Corvette torque tube bellhousing.

Andrew

[FETorino]

[QUOTE=ironworks;479222]Well I'm a little behind on updating this project but let me see what I can get handled this Morning.

We did our first months worth of work for the new owner, Troy. We are working to try and get the engine as low as possible with the Dailey Dry sump pan that is on it. We have a ton of clearance under the pan but the limiting factor is the bellhousing. So we have been exploring going to a relocated starter with a triple 7.25" clutch from Tilton or QuarterMaster.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Top%20Secret%20Camaro/4-23-2013006-1.jpg (http://s616.photobucket.com/user/ironworksspeed/media/Top%20Secret%20Camaro/4-23-2013006-1.jpg.html)
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Those Dailey pans are pretty slick aren't they.:unibrow:

[Darrell]

I think Rodger hinted why the nova is upstairs and not down stairs. :headscratch:

Thank God I have boys !

Mark

I know what's up with Eric,my youngest got married almost two years ago and my other daughter could announce any day,FAMILY FIRST!,then cars,what's another couple of years.....that's why my project is called;project slow motion

[GregWeld]

The Camaro - EX Dave version - just needs to be twin turbo not blown....


There! You heard it here first.

[bentfab]

The Camaro - EX Dave version - just needs to be twin turbo not blown....


There! You heard it here first.

I thought of it FIRST !



Hey, Rodger why doesn't the customer go with twins? To much extra stuff? To normal now a days? Or just plain ol wants a blower.

Mark

[ironworks]

I thought of it FIRST !



Hey, Rodger why doesn't the customer go with twins? To much extra stuff? To normal now a days? Or just plain ol wants a blower.

Mark

Cuz we likes simple. And just like brake reservoirs, that is what he wants. So a blower what he will get.

Rodger

[ironworks]

Kamaka says we should gain about a half a SHAKA with this new bellhousing.

http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Top%20Secret%20Camaro/5-14-2013022.jpg (http://s616.photobucket.com/user/ironworksspeed/media/Top%20Secret%20Camaro/5-14-2013022.jpg.html)

:mock: :mock: :mock:

[Rick D]

WOW that's very nice :king: Rodger who makes that bell housing? Or is it a Iron Works skunk works item :hello:

[andrewb70]

Looks like a Tilton bellhousing.

Andrew

[ironworks]

So we got the Tilton bellhousing mocked up. We are going to machine a custom end for the torque tube to make attaching the torque tube to a standard bellhousing a solution. We are setting up the engine plate for the car. I THINK....... We have the engine front drive system figured out. Not quite sure I can put it into words, but I know what I'm supposed to do to make it clean like the customer wants. Now we just have to make it a reality, should be pretty awesome when complete.

We have continued some work on the the middle of the car. We are waiting on the ZR1 hubs for the car to begin to mock up wheels. We lowered the torque tube tunnel to go with the lowered engine position that we achiveved with the smaller bellhousing. We are still working with Whipple to get the blower manifold and drive system finalized to move to the front of the car.

Enough Blah Blah Blah. Here are some pics.

http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Top%20Secret%20Camaro/5-15-2013002-1.jpg (http://s616.photobucket.com/user/ironworksspeed/media/Top%20Secret%20Camaro/5-15-2013002-1.jpg.html)
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We also began welding out the floor sections. Time to design floor insert panels.
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[coolwelder62]

Rodger!!!:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[fleetus macmullitz]

:wow:

Tall 'rod designers' see more. ;)

[Rick D]

Nice Rodger looking really good! Is it still going to get the built in air jacks that Dave wanted to put in?

[ironworks]

Nice Rodger looking really good! Is it still going to get the built in air jacks that Dave wanted to put in?

That is still the plan. I don't think it would be to easy to jack up without them.

[dave96dcm]

How thick is the intercooler core? Could you use a thinner core or will that negate the effect of having a core because a thinner core wouldn't be able to keep up with the heat and airflow you are going to be making. You could also run no intercooler and just run a boost referenced water alcohol mist before the blower. If you think it will be more street than full on boost that might be a idea. When cruising with the bypass open those don't make much heat at all.

[ironworks]

I'm not sure where we will end up with intercooler thickness. I have been talking to some much smarter guys then me at Whipple and Kurt Urban had some good ideas also. The customer is open to machining the intake from Billet to get the best results with our application. One step at a time.

Rodger

[Darrell]

Happy to see this project back in motion,:hapdance:

[ironworks]

Well I guess it's about time for an Update on the widebody Camaro project.

Things have come long pretty good in the engine compartment. We are working to get the front suspension crossmember designed and getting the Alternator and AC compress in a low key position. We mocked up a rough seat in the car and are working to get the steering column position set up. We all closed up the panel below the rear window where the car was shortened for less over hang.

http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Top%20Secret%20Camaro/6-28-2013005.jpg (http://s616.photobucket.com/user/ironworksspeed/media/Top%20Secret%20Camaro/6-28-2013005.jpg.html)

We are just mocking up some hinges to see how they will work in a rear ward position nearly 6 inches back from stock with the new firewall position.
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This steering column position will be critical for comfort behind the wheel and header clearance and having the column high enough at the firewall to give plenty of room for the movement of the pedal assembly. You can also see the bellhousing mounted starter in position on the passenger side.

http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Top%20Secret%20Camaro/6-28-2013008.jpg (http://s616.photobucket.com/user/ironworksspeed/media/Top%20Secret%20Camaro/6-28-2013008.jpg.html)
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Enjoy the progress

[Al Moreno]

WOW, there are a few killer 1st Gen Camaro's being built right now throughout the country and I think this one is going to be a stand out among them!

Rodger, keep the pics coming

[ironworks]

WOW, there are a few killer 1st Gen Camaro's being built right now throughout the country and I think this one is going to be a stand out among them!

Rodger, keep the pics coming

Like I always say each project is only as good as the customer. Troy is pretty excited about this project and is letting us do some pretty cool things.

[dave96dcm]

Anything new on this?

[ironworks]

I was just getting ready to do an update on a few of our projects in the works.

We have been working on the lay out for the side vent on the front fenders and I think we are getting pretty close. The Customer thought it was mostly perfect.
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We are going to make a few changes to the floor lay out due to the new lower engine position. These headers are going to be tough but we should make they work and still be removable.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Top%20Secret%20Camaro/8-29-2013001.jpg (http://s616.photobucket.com/user/ironworksspeed/media/Top%20Secret%20Camaro/8-29-2013001.jpg.html)
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We are working with the relocated water pump idea and mocking up a slanted radiator.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Top%20Secret%20Camaro/8-29-2013003.jpg (http://s616.photobucket.com/user/ironworksspeed/media/Top%20Secret%20Camaro/8-29-2013003.jpg.html)


Rough overall pics of the side profile.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Top%20Secret%20Camaro/8-29-2013004.jpg (http://s616.photobucket.com/user/ironworksspeed/media/Top%20Secret%20Camaro/8-29-2013004.jpg.html)
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[Ketzer]

I absolutely love what you call "rough" pics! Seeing you start to piece together the ideas, how the panels come together, the stuff before metal finishing, just as amazing as the finished product!



Jeff-

[HWY Nova]

I absolutely love what you call "rough" pics! Seeing you start to piece together the ideas, how the panels come together, the stuff before metal finishing, just as amazing as the finished product!



Jeff-

Jeff,

You need to plan a road-trip from TN to CA to see this car in-person...... It is worth the drive.

I saw it just a few weeks ago!


--Eric

[GregWeld]

Jeff,

You need to plan a road-trip from TN to CA to see this car in-person...... It is worth the drive.

I saw it just a few weeks ago!


--Eric

YEAH JEFF --- 'Cause I make the trip down there regularly from Seattle... so the least you could do is blow in once in awhile from Tenney Sea.

[214Chevy]

Looking good!! Love the little detail to the side vent at the bottom that goes parallel to the rocker.:flashie:

[Ketzer]

YEAH JEFF --- 'Cause I make the trip down there regularly from Seattle... so the least you could do is blow in once in awhile from Tenney Sea.

Well you know GW, since you're making all these road trips, you could swing by and get me... we could stop by Poteet's place just south of me ('cause he and I are like peas and carrots) and then zip out to Bakertucky! Just be sure you got ice cold Yoo-hoos in the fridge and some P&B sammiches, I don't eat that high brow fare....



( I don't actually know Mr. Poteet, but I do hope some day to meet him )


Jeff-

[GregWeld]

Well you know GW, since you're making all these road trips, you could swing by and get me... we could stop by Poteet's place just south of me ('cause he and I are like peas and carrots) and then zip out to Bakertucky! Just be sure you got ice cold Yoo-hoos in the fridge and some P&B sammiches, I don't eat that high brow fare....



( I don't actually know Mr. Poteet, but I do hope some day to meet him )


Jeff-




Would ya do Hostess pies??



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[Garage Dog 65]

Check out the C&R electric pump mounted on the radiator.

http://www.crracing.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Racing-Catalog-2012-2013.pdf

Think I've seen a LS street radiator with a meziere pump somewhere.

Nice fab !

Jim

[Ron in SoCal]

Beautiful Rodger. Great update!

[ironworks]

Thx, this car has been fun.

[streetbird]

cant wait to see that thing finished

[ironworks]

We got the headers mocked up the way the customer envisioned his headers. They are nearly equal length but it does not matter with that big Whipple Supercharger.

http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Top%20Secret%20Camaro/9-12-2013006.jpg (http://s616.photobucket.com/user/ironworksspeed/media/Top%20Secret%20Camaro/9-12-2013006.jpg.html)
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Getting close to designing the front suspension crossmember.

[Al Moreno]

Looking great Rodger! BTW, what are the two canisters on each side?

[ironworks]

Looking great Rodger! BTW, what are the two canisters on each side?

Air jacks....

[coolwelder62]

Rodger as alway's your work is amazing!!!!!:G-Dub:

[tones2SS]

http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Top%20Secret%20Camaro/9-12-2013009.jpg (http://s616.photobucket.com/user/ironworksspeed/media/Top%20Secret%20Camaro/9-12-2013009.jpg.html)


That is awesome! Great work guys.

[DFRESH]

I gotta say it---that is like the ultimate Camaro of all time. If the "rough" pics are any indication--SMOTY baby--all the way.

[ironworks]

I gotta say it---that is like the ultimate Camaro of all time. If the "rough" pics are any indication--SMOTY baby--all the way.

Maybe someday. At least the customer is happy.

[GrabberGT]

That motor looks strange in there. Its appears to be hanging off the firewall the way a mounted trophy buck looks hanging over the firepalce. Its just not real.

[jarhead]

Nice!

[ironworks]

That motor looks strange in there. Its appears to be hanging off the firewall the way a mounted trophy buck looks hanging over the firepalce. Its just not real.

Apparently you did not see the machinist spec 2x4's under the engine. That's what is doing all the work.


HAHA

[Al Moreno]

Rodger any updates?

[ironworks]

Rodger any updates?

We have been buttoning up a lot of loose ends and working to design some pretty nice idea parts for this project. I will see what I have to post.

[Viperlover]

Anxiously awaiting updates, this may be my favorite car to date.

[HWY Nova]

Anxiously awaiting updates, this may be my favorite car to date.

Go to the OPEN DISCUSSIONS section of this forum, and scroll down to the WHAT'S UP AT IRONWORKS SPEED & KUSTOM. New pics!


--Eric

[ironworks]

Anxiously awaiting updates, this may be my favorite car to date.

I posted up a few pics in the Update thread for the shop, but have not had time to do anything with this thread.

We are getting pretty crazy with this project and it has been pushing my Solidworks design skills to get it all incorporated together to the quality and design we shot for on a daily basis. We have just been trying to keep up with all the customers that keep us very busy. One of our many local customers just brought a 3rd car for us to begin working on this week, he wants to go racing in the big track with a bad ass 2nd gen camaro.

Be careful what you wish for as you might get it. I'm just glad we have the staff we have in the shop and they want to build the craziness our customers desire.

Enjoy some pics.
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This lower cradle is just for the lower section and to get all the plumbing together for the dry sump and other engine accessories. I have the bitchin parts to build off of this if I can ever decide what design I like the best and will work the best for what we are doing.

[Al Moreno]

Any updates?

[ironworks]

Any updates?

The progress on the car is pretty consistent these days. Customer was unsure of the direction he wanted some things. But we are now going with a Custom built LS7 with a cross ram design we found in Australia. So progress can begin.


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[ironworks]

We have gotten the UCA mounts defined and getting some other plates set up to reinforce the front end. We have the radiator mounted in position so we are now ready to cut the parts to permanently mount it in the car.


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[seancarole]

any updates

[seancarole]

bump bump where is this beast!:bang: