View Full Version : Ironworks to build the Chassisworks 1967 Camaro for Muscle Car Power Magazine
ironworks
06-10-2009, 01:28 PM
I have been working on putting this project togther for quite a while. Travis (Red Rocker) from Muscle Car Power and I talked about doing a build series article on how "Fabricators" Like us might build a Pretty "Bolt togther" camaro. And what parts we would combine to make a very well balanced and capable street car and track car. Would we build it just to Autocross or actually haul ass on the track, would we just say it works or would we put it to the test. Would we just show the parts in the picture and say they work great because we got them for "FREE". Or would we work and show all the advantages for the parts choices we made.
So on to the parts selection for today. I decided to use the Chassisworks suspension parts system for the Camaro. For a few reasons, Nobody seems to have any solid numbers, but I think the Chassisworks might be lightest front clip on the market. (camaros have a lot of weight on the front). Plus I felt it would give me the most aggresive ride height. Liked some of the trick features in the front end. like on the fly camaber/caster adjustments, no shims. Plus I think I can fit a 295/17 or 18 on the front. I will work to show you guys the reasons I choose the parts I choose here and in the magazine.
So on to the the build, 1967 Camaro.
Chassisworks suspension
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/shoppics6-9-2009016.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/shoppics6-9-2009015.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/shoppics6-9-2009017.jpg
Gm Performance Parts LS7, 600 hp and all aluminum..... need I say more
Lemons headers for the LS7, Great Quality premade header
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/shoppics6-10-2009006.jpg
FAST EFI system -Tuning ability and will plug directly into racepak.
Anvil Auto Carbon parts to get more weight off the nose, and make it cool.
BFG Tires 295/35/18 and 335/30/18's KDW's and R1's
Wheels will be a "ONE OFF" design between Ironworks and Shaun @ EVOD wheels.
Clayton Machineworks has some really bitchin Pedals come out and We are on the list for those. They will be start shipping in July.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/claytonpedals.jpg
We will be running Wilwood 13" brakes front and rear. With a Wilwood master cylinder.
Marquez Design will be showing off alot of new products to add to their highly sought after product line.
Ring Brother Hinges and Hood pins should help finish out the front Billet accesories quite well.
Of course with out the helpful guidance of our own Carter Hickman. Who is Currently hammering out another Camaro rendering for this project.
I will keep you guys updated as the parts arrive and my credit cards help stimulate the Economy. Tommorrow she hits the scales to get a base line.
Enjoy
Ricochet
06-10-2009, 02:06 PM
Glad to see this out in the open finally! I know there has been a ton of work behind the scenes going on for sometime on this endeavor. Look forward to seeing this come together. I think this will be a great build!
BTW - those pedals from Clayton :thumbsup: I know now what I'll be running!!
dodge
06-10-2009, 02:21 PM
I agree.Those pedal assemblies are very cool:D
I look forward to watching this build:)
Ummgawa
06-10-2009, 02:26 PM
Man those pedals are sick. I very much look forward to the build up and please post as many pictures as you can get away with.
ironworks
06-10-2009, 02:27 PM
Here are some of the selling points that made me go with the Chassisworks Front Subframe.
I really like the fact I can change camber / caster adjustments with out a having a floor jack. And if you spent some time at your local alignment shop, you could count the revolutions between your street set up and your track set up.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/shoppics6-10-2009009.jpg
I also like the fact I could clock the rack and pinion to optimise header clearance with the steering shaft and also improve U joint angles if needed to smooth out the steering.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/shoppics6-10-2009010.jpg
For a track car I like the bumpsteer adjusters, The front suspension is all computer designed and laid out for the best bumpsteer but this would let you tune for your desired specs.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/shoppics6-10-2009011.jpg
The front sway bar on the Chassisworks front subframe has 2 options, 1.25" or 1.285" We choose the 1.285" bar. I liked the fact the sway bar would not have issues with the oil pan.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/shoppics6-10-2009012.jpg
Alot of these design advantages are due to the fact of a clean sheet design. Nothing is based around already existing parts. Everything is designed from a clean slate.
Here is a picture of the bed of my F-450 full to the brim with Chassisworks Products last Saturday.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/shoppics6-9-2009012.jpg
Thanks
Rodger
ironworks
06-10-2009, 02:32 PM
Man those pedals are sick. I very much look forward to the build up and please post as many pictures as you can get away with.
Well inbetween the shots I post here and the tech articles in Muscle Car Power, I'm hoping to tease you into buying Muscle Car Power by revealing the twist or untold info with more pictures.
It should be interesting that is for sure.
Josh69
06-10-2009, 03:19 PM
Cool, I just got my first issue of Muscle Car Power and loved it, so this will be sweet to watch unfold both here and there.
Those pedals are beyond bitchin. :wow:
Flash68
06-10-2009, 03:25 PM
Wow what a killer project, Rodger.
skatinjay27
06-10-2009, 03:43 PM
sweet!!!!!!!
is that the 67 you got when you "stole" 50/50;)
ironworks
06-10-2009, 03:48 PM
Yeap, sure.
David Pozzi
06-10-2009, 04:04 PM
Cool!
I feel the need for a road trip to Bakersfield coming on! :thumbsup:
David
ironworks
06-10-2009, 04:19 PM
Cool!
I feel the need for a road trip to Bakersfield coming on! :thumbsup:
David
Let me get alittle further then a pickup truck full of parts. So you can have something to drive and tune. But your definitlely welcome anytime. We eat well down here is my figure is not evidence of that already.
Rodger
Ricochet
06-10-2009, 04:35 PM
Let me get alittle further then a pickup truck full of parts. So you can have something to drive and tune. But your definitlely welcome anytime. We eat well down here is my figure is not evidence of that already.
Rodger
The boys down there know how to eat!! I heard there is a good BBQ joint down there called Champs. Not that I would know anything about that!! :lol:
ironworks
06-10-2009, 04:46 PM
You should come for Breakfast. The Food they serve there is illegal in Hollywood where Novanutcase is from.
Rodger
XLexusTech
06-10-2009, 05:36 PM
Is that the street machine Subframe?
ironworks
06-10-2009, 05:49 PM
YES SIR,
Here is a link from the Chassisworks site.
http://www.cachassisworks.com/iwwidb.pvx?;multi_item_submit?FORM_SELECT=C?CAT_LV L=0?CAT=CLPCAMARO1?COMP=CAC
SWAPMEETCRAZY
06-10-2009, 09:06 PM
Man those pedals are sick. I very much look forward to the build up and please post as many pictures as you can get away with.
x2 cm's webpage shows $575 for those shown--$425 for auto--very nice -- jim :unibrow:
syborg tt
06-10-2009, 09:26 PM
another cool build - you guys have all the fun.
Kendall Burleson
06-10-2009, 09:31 PM
More pics please!:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
rich-allen
06-11-2009, 08:59 AM
Great looking project Rodger!
I'm planning a trip down in the next couple weeks, I can't wait to see what you have going.
Rich
ironworks
06-11-2009, 09:23 AM
I'm looking forward to see having you. It is nice to see you roaming around here again.
Rodger
rich-allen
06-11-2009, 09:29 AM
Yea thanks, actually made it to work this morning. probably only staying till lunch but it feels good to be out of the house :yes:
I scheduled an aircraft for the afternoon of the 26th. If anyone wants to fly to Rodgers from Concord airport that morning, feel free to give me a shout.
Rich
If I was closer I'd jump at the chance to fly down with you. I am planning a road trip for next summer and there are A LOT of shops I am trying to see. Not my wifes first chioce for a vacation, but it sounds perfect to me!
I am going to have to get a set of those pedals for sure. Very nice.
Then again, is there anything that comes out of Ironworks that is not top notch? Just about everytime someone starts a new build here it costs me money!:lol:
Rodger, I saw the write up on the Nova in Muscle Car, nice work and congrats on the ink! The whole shop looks great. Are those your legs behind the Nova in the opening shot? Also a good write up on Chassisworks. Nice stuff.
ironworks
06-11-2009, 11:34 AM
yeah those are my legs and my big ass feet......I work out..:D
You would have thought they could have waited till the lift was all the way up and I got out of the way before the took the pic.
Anybody is welcome anytime as long as the shop lights are on and the alarm to the shop has not been set we can give shop tours.
CRCRFT78
06-11-2009, 01:46 PM
Hey Rich I might take you up on that. I'm in Concord also.
ironworks
06-11-2009, 02:21 PM
Today we removed the old sub and installed the new Chassisworks Street machine front clip. We got some weights of the old and the new. The old subframe we pulled out is manual steering and the sway bar is so small it looks like a coat hanger.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/DSC_0326.jpg
It weighs 261 lbs.
The Chassisworks front clip comes with power steering, a big 1 5/16" sway bar and much bigger spindles with Chassisworks bigger bearing front hubs, weighs 230 lbs. I'm trying to get the weight of a stock clip with a bigger sway bar and power steering box, I bet it is another 10-15lbs.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/DSC_0320.jpg
So the stock 1967 camaro you see pictured weighs 1728lbs, in it's semi stripped down state, no windshield, but all other glass intact, most mechanical parts (Brake master, fuel and brake lines, Ebrake cables, etc)
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/DSC_0309.jpg
By just removing the front fenders, core support and hood we lost 117 lbs. CRAZY :wow: I would have never guessed that stuff weighed so much.
HELLO CAN I SPEAK TO TYLER AT ANVIL.... PLEASE
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/DSC_0312.jpg
And finally with the Chassiworks front clip installed and the front sheetmetal back on just like it was in the beginning, we have a total weight of 1646 lbs. So we lost 82 with this just the install of the front subframe. and it lowered the car proababley 2". The ride sticks that come with the Chassisworks clip set the car at exact ride height. You can see the stance is coming togther on the front quite well. Now we need to do something about the rear.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/DSC_0331.jpg
And with the front sheetmetal back in place
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/DSC_0332.jpg
Enjoy
Vegas69
06-11-2009, 02:44 PM
The weight savings looks to be sway bar and the lack of second crossmember. Do you plan to reinforce the car with another crossmember? Looks like a fun project.:thumbsup:
ironworks
06-11-2009, 03:20 PM
What do you mean the sway bar being the difference? They sway bar on the front end is at least 75% bigger. And it is installed. We lost 86lbs and have a bigger sway bar and the stock sub has a tiny sway bar and a manual steering box. I believe the weight savings is in the shear mass of the stock clip and mass of the stock control arms. Plus the fact we lost a steering box and linkage, plus it is tied into one unit with the rack and pinion.
For the Price of an after market clip now days, people used to buy the whole car. Kinda crazy how times ahave changed, but so has the quality of the products we are all replacing on our cars. I actually thought we might have lost a bit more weight then just 86, my guess was 100.
Here is pic with the sway bar installed.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/shoppics6-10-2009012.jpg
Vegas69
06-11-2009, 04:25 PM
Whoops....the alston sway bar is clearly way heavier. The lack of second crossmember has to be the biggest difference though. Have to ask, if the frames only had 31lbs of difference on the scales how did the car lose 82 lbs?
ironworks
06-11-2009, 04:50 PM
Well I guess we will have to answer that question a little early with the info for Day 3. The stock sub with Drum brakes and these roller wheels and tires weighs 372lbs.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/DSC_0313.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/DSC_0314.jpg
Since the brake are not here yet, Once we put front brakes on the car, what will it bring the weight in the front back up to?
Which is lighter stock drum brakes or Big 13 brakes from Wilwood?
So you are Correct the Chassisworks subframe contributed to 31 lbs loss, but how much weight will we put back on when the 13" Wilwood 6 piston brakes arrive?
I was shocked by this number also.
Vegas69
06-11-2009, 05:14 PM
Gotcha..LOL I can tell you to the lb since I have my front's apart to change over to 13" rotors but I won't spoil the fun.:D
crazycarl
06-11-2009, 06:16 PM
Subscribed.:cheers:
89 RS
06-11-2009, 11:28 PM
That's going to be a sweet ride. Look forward to seeing more.
novanutcase
06-12-2009, 12:12 AM
You should come for Breakfast. The Food they serve there is illegal in Hollywood where Novanutcase is from.
Rodger
That's why I sneak up to Bako....to check out the Nova and get some illegal food in my stomach!:unibrow:
John
rich-allen
06-12-2009, 07:39 AM
Hey Rich I might take you up on that. I'm in Concord also.
Just let me know. nobody else has said for sure they were going so the seat is still availible. Flight time is 1:05 from Concord. Beats the hell out of 5 hours of driving.
ironworks
06-12-2009, 08:11 AM
Just let me know which air port to pick you at. Meadows Field is about a 1/4 mile away.
Rodger
ccracin
06-12-2009, 10:31 AM
Just let me know which air port to pick you at. Meadows Field is about a 1/4 mile away.
Rodger
You can't beat door to door pick-up service. Truly a full service shop! Keep up the good work:thumbsup:
rich-allen
06-12-2009, 10:55 AM
You can't beat door to door pick-up service. Truly a full service shop! Keep up the good work:thumbsup:
Rodger is extremely cool :thumbsup:
Can't wait to see my baby!
ironworks
06-12-2009, 10:57 AM
Rodger is extremely cool :thumbsup:
Can't wait to see my baby!
I can't wait for you to see it, With the LSX cog belt system installed and hopefully the intercooler plumbing.....:D
ironworks
06-15-2009, 03:03 PM
Well the Monday update.
We removed alot of the interior junk and other questionable pieces. The Dog was not found in the car, He just follows me constantly hoping to get in the picture.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/shoppics6-15-2009001.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/shoppics6-15-2009003.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/shoppics6-15-2009004.jpg
I'm debating how to do the windows, I want to do lexan, but the Optima Rules say the windows have to be "Operational". If we ran the roll up glass, I wonder what weighs more, the 67 vent window or the 68 full side glass.
I also think we will resheet the firewall to go to one panel of steel. We will also sink the Dry sump tank into the firewall to put more weigh behind the axle center line. We cut out the cowl vents duct work t loose some weigh. We also cut out the stock dash to build an aluminum unit.
We are down to 1535 lbs.
I'm waiting in the BFG tires to start fitting the 295/35/18 tires on the front. It looks like it will be tight but possible with full steering.
Rodger
Kontrol Phreaks
06-15-2009, 05:49 PM
New subscriber as well.
I'm really interested in finding out how the Chassisworks front sub frame install went aside from just the weight loss measures. I understand you're doing a build to show the aspects of all the components and their weight advantages, but are you also going to show more of the install shots throughout the build as well. A friend of mine has expressed interest in building one of the early Camaro's and we're curious to see how well the parts you chose actually install.
Rodger keep up the build and keep us all informed.
:thumbsup:
ironworks
06-15-2009, 06:04 PM
Well I guess I can count on you to be interested in checking out Musclecar Power magazine for the build series. I cannot give away everything. :D
Rodger
ironworks
06-18-2009, 12:11 PM
I talked with Carter Hickman a few times about some ideas on this project and he was excited to work with me on some different body mods and looks that we were going for on the car.
Here is a brief run down on the list of mods. We will be running Lexan windows like a prostock drag car. Flush mounted and bolt in with tiny flush allens. We will also be working with Anvil Auto on getting every Carbon fiber piece possible. Flat Hood, cowl panel no vents, hood vents, trunk lid and spoiler. I'm have heard rumors of a front valance and possibly doors. Marquez Design will be handling all the trick billet parts. Ring Brothers is setting us up with a set of some trick hood hinges and some hood pins.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/ChassisworksCamaroorangeroof.jpg
The Wheels are a one off design the Eric turner whipped up in a bout 7 minutes flat. We will be working with EVOD wheels to do our own design.
The BFG R1 Slicks started arriving today and they are almost as tall as me piled up. THAT'S TALL. The slicks measure 285/30/18 and 335/30/18.
The BFG KDW 2's should start arriving soon. Those will me 295/35/18 and 335/30/18.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/BrentDupont55pics006.jpg
crazycarl
06-18-2009, 12:44 PM
I like the look, those tires sure look like fun! Won't have to worry about shifting the drivers weight around with those babies.
Is that the final color? It's going to look a lot like Velocity, AirRide's 67 Camaro.
ironworks
06-18-2009, 01:09 PM
I'm not sure I see the velocity camaro connection, except they are both orange, and they are both camaros. But the shade is totally different. But Ok at least it does not look like the Dukes of Hazard Charger.
If you look close you will see an orange AUDI buried in the back ground of this picture. Look close it can be hard to find. I like this shade of orange alot. The girl is not to bad either.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/AudiRS4_012.jpg
Tyler From Anvil Auto thinks it looks like this monster.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/monster.jpg
Oh yeah, that's really, really nice. :D
Orng Crsh
06-18-2009, 02:03 PM
I like that shade of orange alot too! Who makes it? Thanks.
ironworks
06-18-2009, 02:09 PM
I have no idea on the exact shade or who makes it. I found that pic on some tuner website. Oh did I say that out loud????
Rodger
skatinjay27
06-18-2009, 02:42 PM
didnt you know that if you paint a car orange and have a custom front splitter then it looks like velocity...
just like if you paint a car or TRUCK flat green its a bite off of the f-bomb!:rolleyes:
digging the rendering alot!
ironworks
06-18-2009, 02:46 PM
didnt you know that if you paint a car orange and have a custom front splitter then it looks like velocity...
just like if you paint a car or TRUCK flat green its a bite off of the f-bomb!:rolleyes:
digging the rendering alot!
Are you not aware that F-bomb Copied the ARMY.
James OLC
06-18-2009, 03:14 PM
didnt you know that if you paint a car orange and have a custom front splitter then it looks like velocity...
just like if you paint a car or TRUCK flat green its a bite off of the f-bomb!:rolleyes:
digging the rendering alot!
You should see what happens if you paint your first gen ... never mind...
skatinjay27
06-18-2009, 03:15 PM
You should see what happens if you paint your first gen ... never mind...
LOL that funny, i was actually gonna use that as an example also!!!
some people...
nvr2fst
06-18-2009, 06:14 PM
Rodger, Lookin good great body lines on both models LOL.
Hats off to Carter.
Vegas69
06-18-2009, 11:01 PM
It looks exactly like Velocity except for the wheels, carbon fiber, windows, graphics, etc.. I really didn't feel that way but it's clear it's way different. I really can't fault him for saying it since it's his opinion, however.
blowngasr
06-19-2009, 01:29 AM
yeah,roger i like the color to,that looks like southern california tan.:thumbsup: not sure of the paint code....could be 38...or 24...maybe 36...jim
If you look close you will see an orange AUDI buried in the back ground of this picture. Look close it can be hard to find. I like this shade of orange alot. The girl is not to bad either.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/AudiRS4_012.jpg
Tyler From Anvil Auto thinks it looks like this monster.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/monster.jpg[/QUOTE]
paulk68
06-19-2009, 04:39 PM
did you say you heard a rumor for carbon fiber doors???? if so :drool:
David Pozzi
07-21-2009, 10:47 AM
check on the legality of those tires for Optima Challenge. I think they require a treadwear of 100??? Might be different this year though.
I think drums will be lighter than discs in this case. We replaced 2nd gen discs with Baer 13" Track kit and saved 2 lbs.
The bar weight can be estimated from a steel chart having diameter and length.
Stock bar weighs 5 lbs.
ironworks
07-21-2009, 12:18 PM
check on the legality of those tires for Optima Challenge. I think they require a treadwear of 100??? Might be different this year though.
I think drums will be lighter than discs in this case. We replaced 2nd gen discs with Baer 13" Track kit and saved 2 lbs.
The bar weight can be estimated from a steel chart having diameter and length.
Stock bar weighs 5 lbs.
I have another set of KDW2's that came but I have lagged on trying to get all the updates togther.
The weigh differences will be all over the board on different things. We wound up running some 14" Wilwood brakes front and rear. A big brake modded subframe ends up in the same zone with tubular a arms and ATS spindles. But you have to lower the suspension pretty low to give it the look. The aftermarket subframes give you a lower ride height and a clean slate design which end up give you some benfits a stock sub could never due or was intended to do. Wider tires, stronger front clip design, new unbent used parts.
I should have an update very soon, We are working on the trunk floor and quarters and building our mini tubs currently.
Rodger,
What new with this car?
ironworks
07-21-2009, 02:23 PM
Well here are some update pics. I got the body lightly blasted last week except for the quarters we are going to replace, the bent up tail panel and rusted out trunk floor. We decided to do the full quarter since there are some small rust spots up top to deal with at the same time. We got a complete trunk floor and quarters from Classiic Industries, they usually have a nice 20%off sale you can get a deal on. We will be building our own wheel tubs to gain the most room possible for the low ride height and 335 tires.
Well some pics of the car and parts.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/ChassisworksCamaroProject013.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/ChassisworksCamaroProject016.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/ChassisworksCamaroProject003.jpg
Enjoy
ironworks
07-21-2009, 02:29 PM
Here is shot of the BFG KDW2's and R-1's tires we plan to run on track days, autocross events and on the street. The slicks are not allowed in certain events due to the low tread wear rating.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/ChassisworksCamaroProject014.jpg
Here is a shot of the Ecoated 14" rotors from Wilwood. They sure look sharp.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/ChassisworksCamaroProject018.jpg
Rodger
groovyjay
07-21-2009, 02:49 PM
Good stuff! Please, keep the updates coming. :thumbsup:
ironworks
07-21-2009, 02:55 PM
There will be plenty of updates between now and the end of August. We plan to display the car as a mocked up roller in the Chassisworks booth at the West Coast nationals. Now that Columbus is wrapped up and we are back hauling ass in the shop, we have few cars to get done before we prep the C6-57 for it hopeful booth spot at SEMA.
I need to install the LS7 engine which will happen Saturday with the front sheetmetal and aluminum core support and all the Anvil goodies. We also just got our Ring Bro hinges and hood pins. Once I get the Adapter parts from Chassisworks for the 14" rotors from the 13"s we had planned to run I can install those. I just ordered the axles and rear diff to get those installed in the car. I talked with Hector from Rick's tanks yeaterday and should see a tank in a few weeks. We need to install the Chassisworks rollcage into the car next week and then begin to build the dash to fit the Speedwire switch box unit with the ISIS power system and the Racepak unit with the EFI control unit. We are trying decide if we will install the Kinsler Cross ram unit or if we will run a fully adjustable unit or a factor ECU based system, either way most systems will plug right into the Racepak.
http://www.gallo-teck.ca/speedwire/
http://www.isispower.com/index.html
www.racepak.com
Rodger
GregWeld
07-21-2009, 03:36 PM
[QUOTE=blowngasr;219095]yeah,roger i like the color to,that looks like southern california tan.:thumbsup: not sure of the paint code....could be 38...or 24...maybe 36...jim
If you look close you will see an orange AUDI buried in the back ground of this picture. Look close it can be hard to find. I like this shade of orange alot. The girl is not to bad either.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/AudiRS4_012.jpg
What girl??
ironworks
07-22-2009, 12:17 PM
Well I told you we would have some Big updates this week.
I finally got all the Carbon Fiber parts from Anvil Auto ( www.anvilauto.com ).
MAN all I can say it they are beautiful. Tyler Delivered the big parts to me at the LA Roadster show, When we opened the box all the wives and Girlfriends were hanging out and not a one of them understand what Carbon fiber is or does, But they all said in at the same time , "UUUUHHHH PRETTY". My thought has always been when you build something and show it to some one who has no clue what they are looking at and they think it is apealing to the eye, your doing something right.
Well check out these master pieces of carbon fiber from Anvil Auto. I wonder if Anvil could combine my Two favorite things, Carbon Fiber and BOOBS?
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/shoppics7-21-2009011.jpg
Check out the underside of the hood, What a way to finish off an engine compartment.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/shoppics7-21-2009014.jpg
And the trunk and spoiler
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/shoppics7-21-2009016.jpg
Check out the underside, DAMN
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/shoppics7-21-2009017.jpg
GMracer
07-23-2009, 08:22 AM
damn!
GregWeld
07-23-2009, 08:28 AM
Roger! Let's have some girls in the next photo post so we can admire the quality of the parts... You're slipping!
LOL
ironworks
07-24-2009, 06:11 PM
Things have been pretty busy around the shop these past few days, Here are some teaser updates to hold yo over until next week. We are getting the mini tubs built and have the trunk floor ready to spot weld in place. We have the Chassisworks rear suspension pretty much in place. We have the LS7 and T-56 set in place with a synister bracket system and some fancy ATS carbon valave covers. We also have a Performance radiator Aluminum core support and radiator mocked up in place. It is sure coming togther fast. And looks really good.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/shoppics7-24-2009145.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/shoppics7-24-2009134.jpg
we took 168 picture in 2 days for 3 different articles for Muscle Car Power Magazine. Plus Eric's convertible got a 4 page spread this month.
Thanks
ironworks
07-24-2009, 06:13 PM
Here is another for the weekend.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/shoppics7-24-2009131.jpg
almcbri
07-24-2009, 07:10 PM
that core support is awesome. everything looks great! :thumbsup:
Kendall Burleson
07-25-2009, 02:01 PM
Good Job I like it:cool:
HWY Nova
07-26-2009, 09:08 PM
By all this progress is see, no wonder they're not working on my car!
Looks great guys!
--Eric
camaro2nv
07-26-2009, 09:32 PM
I need info on that core support! Man this is going to be a nice build!
ironworks
07-26-2009, 10:39 PM
http://www.autoradradiators.com/
camaro2nv
07-26-2009, 10:56 PM
Roger can you PM me a price for a LS2 setup?
J2SpeedandCustom
07-27-2009, 07:18 AM
When I grow up I want to be tall and cool like Roger! How do you like CA's suspension setup for the rear?
ironworks
07-27-2009, 07:32 AM
Exactly Who is Roger? I know a Rodger.
The rear pivot link set up is a really nice deal, I like the axle housing mounted sway bar, I like the quality of the Flex joints and the ease of installation, and the ability to adjust pinion angle on the the car, I was not a fan of the OLD G-bar setup because of the some of these things, But this is much much improved design. The Pivot link system has a lot of adjustment for suspension tuning and seems to offer some different ride heights.
I will be posting more install info later this week and there will be a complete tech article in Muscle Car Power magazine.
Thanks
camaro2nv
07-29-2009, 08:31 PM
Exactly Who is Roger? I know a Rodger.
The rear pivot link set up is a really nice deal, I like the axle housing mounted sway bar, I like the quality of the Flex joints and the ease of installation, and the ability to adjust pinion angle on the the car, I was not a fan of the OLD G-bar setup because of the some of these things, But this is much much improved design. The Pivot link system has a lot of adjustment for suspension tuning and seems to offer some different ride heights.
I will be posting more install info later this week and there will be a complete tech article in Muscle Car Power magazine.
Thanks
Lol yeah yeah it was a long day. I had a order in with Frank for the radiator without the support. But after seeing your I changed my order. Any updates?
BuiltByBrooks
07-30-2009, 08:31 PM
That's going to be a $$ick car....Nice work
nvr2fst
07-30-2009, 09:31 PM
By all this progress is see, no wonder they're not working on my car!
Looks great guys!
--Eric
Ha! I was reading through this Eric and I was thinking the same thing. I think we need to join forces and team up on Rodger.
ironworks
07-30-2009, 11:14 PM
Actually Dave, Erik has been working on your car all week and it looks awesome, but you might have to wait to see pics of the progress now. And Eric's car is set to continue surgery late next week after we get Brent's 55 wrapped up or until he adds one more thing while it is here. :D
ironworks
07-31-2009, 04:10 PM
We are finishing up the Rear quarter and trunk floor replacemnet soon. But I figured I would give you some teaser pics to Keep your interest.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/shoppics7-27-2009003.jpg
We have what would equal a 295/35 tire mocked up. It might need a bit of surgery on the fender but it should not be a problem.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/shoppics7-27-2009004.jpg
Eric (HWY NOVA) and I have been working on some wheel designs for his convertible and we came up with a few designs we are looking to possibly market. They will have a Monoblock design and will be able to have design elements of a Monoblock but be little more affordable. They will be expensive but look at the possible details in this design. Plus they have 11 spokes, not 10.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/11spokewheels.jpg
nvr2fst
07-31-2009, 04:32 PM
Those wheels are going to look killer.
nvr2fst
07-31-2009, 04:38 PM
Actually Dave, Erik has been working on your car all week and it looks awesome, but you might have to wait to see pics of the progress now. And Eric's car is set to continue surgery late next week after we get Brent's 55 wrapped up or until he adds one more thing while it is here. :D
Holding back I see LOL. Boy, I give you a little crap and now I have to wait.
Hmmm........ I forgot to tell you Im out of checks. Maybe I should open an account with Eric.
Its all good,
Dave
ironworks
07-31-2009, 04:40 PM
AS of today, the time line of this project got bumped up.
OPTIMA BATTERIES
asked if we would be interested in running the Silver State Classic on September 17-20th. I have talked to the guys here at the shop and as long as we can pull it off MONEY wise we will be in.
So We will display the car at Pleasanton the end of August In the Chassisworks booth and then prep the car for the Silver State Classic under the Sponsorship of Optima Batteries
James OLC
07-31-2009, 05:12 PM
That's awesome Rodger - see you there!
GregWeld
07-31-2009, 11:05 PM
Well just how much fun is that!!! Way kool Roger!
Car and wheel design look great!
clill
08-01-2009, 07:55 AM
And you guys are going to sleep when ?
awr68
08-01-2009, 10:52 AM
Cool! The next few months are going to fly by!! See ya there!! :woot:
ironworks
08-01-2009, 10:01 PM
Thanks, We have alot of work to get done in the next few months for SEMA and The Optima Shootout, and the final Goodguys shows this fall.
July has been a great month for the guys at Ironworks.
And yet another killer project from Rodger and the crew at Ironworks. Nice work guys! And congrats on getting in the SSC with Optima!:thumbsup:
brian mc
08-03-2009, 09:13 PM
can't wait to see her in the chassisworks booth at Pleasanton G.G. Lookin bad ass boys.....
I can't tell you how excited i was when you said all Ironworks customers would have a chance to rip her around the track when done (without the you brake you buy, clause) very nice of you guys!!!!:cheers:
nvr2fst
08-03-2009, 09:23 PM
can't wait to see her in the chassisworks booth at Pleasanton G.G. Lookin bad ass boys.....
I can't tell you how excited i was when you said all Ironworks customers would have a chance to rip her around the track when done (without the you brake you buy, clause) very nice of you guys!!!!:cheers:
I didnt see that in Rodgers contract anywhere LOL , Do I need to buy a plane ticket ( you brake it and dont pay for clause sounds great !!!!!)
ironworks
08-03-2009, 09:33 PM
That fine just remember who may get to drive your cars first? And who gets to fix it. :D
I'm liking this idea. Thanks Brian. 3rd driver for Team Cen Cal.
:thumbsup:
nvr2fst
08-03-2009, 09:48 PM
That fine just remember who may get to drive your cars first? And who gets to fix it. :D
I'm liking this idea. Thanks Brian. 3rd driver for Team Cen Cal.
:thumbsup:
I dont like this idea anymore
GMracer
08-05-2009, 08:31 AM
You hiring, I want to be a part of every one of these badass rides :unibrow:
ironworks
08-05-2009, 08:42 AM
Yes we are, You wanna move to California? :D
Steve1968LS2
08-05-2009, 09:00 AM
Cool build and many of the same parts I'm running in my Track Rat project.
Look forward to following the build on here :)
ironworks
08-05-2009, 09:19 AM
Nothing like a little Friendly Competition....:D
ironworks
08-10-2009, 08:58 AM
I guess it is time for the monday morning update.
The Rear quarters, floor and outer wheel tubs from Classic Industries are all landed and tacked in the car. We decided to make our own package tray and the section from the package tray to the rear winodow channel. Our Custom build 35 spline axles from Strange Engineering arrived, We are waiting on our "NEW" 35 spline truetrac to be avaliable to get the built to order center section from Strange Engineering some time next month. The 14" Wilwood brakes have arrived and we installed them for mockup both front and rear. The anodized black Ring Brother hinges have been installed, They work so smooth. We have a set of Ring Brother hood pins, but cannot install them until we get the front sheetmetal fit perfectly. Those beautiful Anvil Auto carbon parts are hard to repair if you damage them, so measure twice cut once.
We had a small problem with getting to run the Silver State Classic next month. The rollcage we had choosen from Chassisworks was an 1.625 cage. We choose that to save weight and in any of the sanctioning bodies we would have ran, they would not have required anything more. Well as soon as we are going to run the Silver State faster then 125, they required a 1.75" x .120 DOM cage. We cannot run that fast our first year, but I hate having to go back and change stuff. Chassisworks said they would get us a 1.75" cage but they were out of stock and it would be 2 weeks. Well when you have 7 weeks to get the car running 2 weeks is alot of time to be set back. So I decided we would pass on the Silver State this year and just focus on being ready for the Optima Street Car Shootout in November. Well Enjoy the pics and lets see how much we get done this week. 10 days till she has to be in Pleasanton in the Chassisworks booth.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/ShopPicsAugust2009054.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/ShopPicsAugust2009052.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/ShopPicsAugust2009087.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/ShopPicsAugust2009088.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/ShopPicsAugust2009089.jpg
nvr2fst
08-10-2009, 05:17 PM
Too bad about the cage issues. Im surprized you guys didnt make your own. At least the pressure is put off a little on time restraints now that your shooting for the Optima schedule.
Rear tray is turning out nice.
ironworks
08-10-2009, 06:08 PM
Too bad about the cage issues. Im surprized you guys didnt make your own. At least the pressure is put off a little on time restraints now that your shooting for the Optima schedule.
Rear tray is turning out nice.
Sure we could have built the cage and put corvette stuff in the car and done any of a number of a million other things, but the plan for the car is to build it with off the shelf parts and just add our spin here and there just to clean things up. It is actually kinda fun and a challenge to figure out how to make think as trick as we try to do on a daily basis, but in a cheaper less labor intensive fashion.
For Example, The dry sump tank we have discussed with more smarter people then me and they had the idea of put it behind the right front tire in the fire wall, but how would you do that or have access? So we came up with the bring idea of tanking the Peterson Tank and welding the base of the new Air ride Fuel cap to the top of it so the fuel cap sticks out through the outside of the right front fender. It should make people say hay why is that here? Or they may just hate it. It reminds me of Smokey Yunick who filled the oil tank in the passenger seat area.
Wait till you see what we do with the Dual Optima Batteries in the back seat. :thumbsup:
awr68
08-10-2009, 07:59 PM
Rodger, this is a fun build and it's coming along nicely! Thanks for the update!!
nvr2fst
08-10-2009, 09:55 PM
Rodger, I keep forgetting this project is geared towards off the shelf parts.
Great idea on the sump tank. Looks great so far.
tones2SS
08-11-2009, 09:27 AM
Very cool Rodger.
Keep up the great work.:thumbsup:
ironworks
08-11-2009, 10:47 AM
Well We had to shorten the passenger fender 3/16 of an inch behind the wheel opening to get everything to fit right. You can see the cut line in the sanded away E coating fron the stock fenders that came with the car. So here is where the project is currently at.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/ChassisworksCamaroProject019.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/ChassisworksCamaroProject022.jpg
The floor was cut out to fit the shifter
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/ChassisworksCamaroProject023.jpg
Moving right along
Krazed
08-11-2009, 11:19 AM
Great project! I like the idea of bolt ons, with just enough fab work that a normal guy like me could do it. :thumbsup:
Quick question, out of curiousity, how did you make the recessed areas in the package tray like this? I assume some special bead-roller type deal.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/ShopPicsAugust2009088.jpg
monza
08-11-2009, 11:26 AM
Your metal work - as always is art! So cool, looks so good.
ironworks
08-11-2009, 11:33 AM
Nothing Special. Just a regular Miltler brothers 36" bead roller with a step die.
ironworks
08-11-2009, 11:34 AM
Your metal work - as always is art! So cool, looks so good.
Thanks, The props go to Henry on this one.
Rodger
Swain
08-11-2009, 12:06 PM
Hey Bring those Fontana's to the show I'll put them in our booth and try to get rid of them.
Musclerodz
08-11-2009, 12:15 PM
Shorten the fender? Do I even want to know why?
ironworks
08-11-2009, 12:52 PM
It is what was needed to get the front end to fit nicely. It fits great now.
Rodger
David Pozzi
08-11-2009, 01:10 PM
Rodger,
Awesome build! Your metalwork is amazing!
The 1st time you run silver state, you have to do the school, enter the association and the navigator has to pay for navigator school too!
For a first timer, It's a lot of running around trying to keep up with the schedule. One option is to just run the event in a regular car the first time, then you know the ropes and have the schools out of the way and can focus on the car, the next time around. Not saying you can't do it in your Camaro, we did, but you'd better have the car in reliable condition, or it won't be much fun.
One guy ran the Optima sponsored 1 mile top speed event the day before, he broke his clutch and was out for Sunday because he had no spare parts. It's best to have a sorted, proven, car there.
ironworks
08-11-2009, 02:02 PM
I agree 100% Dave. I was thinking about renting a Vette in Vegas or Running it the shop HHR just for the experience. Until I found out it was going to be about a 1000 bucks. We are just working to make a decent showing in November. This will allow us a few weeks of track test time before the Optima Shootout. Then the real fun comes this winter getting ready for the Autocross events, Silver State Classic in May, possibly the One lap Event with James Shipka, Hot Rod Power Tour, and just having fun with the car in 2010.
I'm pretty excited about the One Lap Event, James told me they are supposed to run Watkins Glen and I love that track. I have been practicing all the East coast Tracks on I racing.
Thanks For the kind words, we try pretty hard to do the best quality we know how.
Serpa69
08-12-2009, 05:10 AM
That die work looks familiar.
ironworks
08-12-2009, 07:54 AM
Yeah but Bead roll patterns are bead roll patterns, Wait till you see the obvious rip off of ideas I warned you about on the phone. I mean heck why do you think I wanted to get that dry sump tank from you.......:D
Serpa69
08-12-2009, 08:05 AM
Yeah but Bead roll patterns are bead roll patterns, Wait till you see the obvious rip off of ideas I warned you about on the phone. I mean heck why do you think I wanted to get that dry sump tank from you.......:D
Sorry Rodger this is Jasons brother. He said he talked to you. Cars looking good:thumbsup: . Even though I have always been a 69 guy:lol:.
ironworks
08-12-2009, 09:34 AM
Some more pics with the 295's installed and a glimpse at the rocker extentions.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/ShopPicsAugust2009099.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/ShopPicsAugust2009098.jpg
Picture of the Setrab Engine and Power Steering Coolers to be mounted in front of the radiator.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/ShopPicsAugust2009097.jpg
Oh and the designer "Ironworks Wheels Stands" are pretty bitchin also.
HWY Nova
08-12-2009, 09:48 AM
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/ShopPicsAugust2009099.jpg
Oh and the designer "Ironworks Wheels Stands" are pretty bitchin also.
I'm liking those wheel stands!!!!!!!!
--Eric
ironworks
08-12-2009, 09:50 AM
In a month or so we might see a certain Nova vert on those same stands.
HHHMMMMM
The Camaro is coming along nice Rodger. You guys are hauling a** there.
Maybe I missed it somwhere, but what is the purpose of the block off plate where the drivers side headlight should be? :cheers:
ironworks
08-12-2009, 10:01 AM
No purpose just did not install that section of the grille. We plan to run both headlights.
Thanks we have been only working 1 guy at a time on this project, We typically work 50 hour work weeks. We get alot of work done for a small 5 man shop. You can ask any customer we get the work done, there is always something to see.
tones2SS
08-12-2009, 12:38 PM
WOW!!
Great progress and she's looking good. Good turn around for a 5 man shop. By the way, digging the car stands as well!! :thumbsup: :cheers:
Darrell
08-12-2009, 06:23 PM
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HWY Nova
08-12-2009, 06:32 PM
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Darrell,
Your internet skills absolutely amaze me!
--Eric
ironworks
08-17-2009, 06:09 PM
Well we got the Engine and power steering coolers landed and are working on the engine plumbing.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/ShopPicsAugust2009130.jpg
Can you guess what goes here?
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/ShopPicsAugust2009132.jpg
And the start of the Rollcage, man these ready made kits are sure easy. We are going to have to do something to clean dress things up Ironworks style.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/ShopPicsAugust2009127.jpg
Ahh, I know what that is. Maybe you can make 2 while your at it.
ironworks
08-18-2009, 03:02 PM
The load of K&N air filters showed up yesterday and so did the Kirkey seats. We went with the Intermediate Seats with the Deluxe seat cover which will be here later this week.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/ShopPicsAugust2009146.jpg
The Intake filter is 12" long has a 3.5" opening and has a stud on the nd to help support the end of the filter, when we install it in front of the core support.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/ShopPicsAugust2009143.jpg
Enjoy
Vegas69
08-18-2009, 03:07 PM
Killer job on the coolers.
tones2SS
08-18-2009, 04:27 PM
WOW!!
Looking good guys.:thumbsup:
ironworks
08-18-2009, 04:54 PM
Pics of the Dry Sump Tanks installation coming right along.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/ShopPicsAugust2009156.jpg
Pics of the Chassisworks rollcage install.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/ShopPicsAugust2009159.jpg
Rodger
ironworks
08-18-2009, 06:16 PM
I'm not sure AirRide ever intended for this with their gas cap, But hey.......
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/ShopPicsAugust2009164.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/ShopPicsAugust2009167.jpg
tones2SS
08-18-2009, 07:04 PM
DAMN!!!
I still can't get over the dry sumps location. Awesome build guys.:thumbsup:
GMracer
08-18-2009, 07:12 PM
sick!
awr68
08-18-2009, 08:21 PM
You guys are thinking WAY out side the box!! Looking great crew!!
Beach Cruiser
08-19-2009, 09:20 AM
[QUOTE=ironworks;228527]
I'm pretty excited about the One Lap Event, James told me they are supposed to run Watkins Glen and I love that track. I have been practicing all the East coast Tracks on I racing.
QUOTE]
Don't forget to hit up VIR on IRacing! Having actually run the track, IRacing is incredably accurate!
Nice Build going! 67's don't get the respect they deserve! :cheers:
ironworks
08-19-2009, 09:25 AM
Oh Don't Worry I run VIR quite often. That last turn before the front stretch is sneeky, it will bit you. back strech up the hill from turn one to the tree is my favorite stretch of all the tracks, except the uphill chicane at Watkins Glen. You race on iracing regularly?
Thanks for the kind words, We have really put the effort in this week to get the car to Pleasanton this weekend to display it in the Chassisworks booth.
Rodger
Serpa69
08-19-2009, 11:13 AM
There is a track day where you can actually run at VIR on Sep 7,8 I will be there. That track is better in person.
I hope someone doesnt think that is where you fill the car up with gas. That would suck
ironworks
08-19-2009, 11:29 AM
That is what the locking cap is for.
J2SpeedandCustom
08-19-2009, 01:07 PM
Rodger is that cage going to be available from CA? Looks like the fit is pretty decent. :thumbsup:
ironworks
08-19-2009, 01:19 PM
It already is. We had to notch eveything to fit, which a majority of the work. But for a prebent Rollcage it fits pretty good. We have added a few bars here and there, but it sure make things easier. For garage guy this cage would go in nicely with a quality notcher.
Rodger
Teetoe_Jones
08-19-2009, 04:04 PM
Cool idea on the dry sump tank filler. Junk.
Tyler
Payton King
08-20-2009, 06:46 AM
really like the oil filler.
Pettigrew put a cup motor in Jimmy Johnson's 67 and built a custom tank where you put yours. I think that is a good location
ironworks
08-20-2009, 07:42 AM
Thanks Guys, I liked the oil filler idea but was not sure how it would be recieved. Well we got it togther with the cage tacked in place and most of the sheetmetal fit and hung. This car is coming along well for what I believe is 18 days of work or so. At least that is what the time journals said late last night when I did payroll.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/ShopPicsAugust2009193.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/ShopPicsAugust2009194.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/ShopPicsAugust2009195.jpg
The Marquez taillights and Ricks fuel tank showed up yesterday. The Taillights really make the back of the car. The Ricks fuel tank with new internal BOSCH fuel pump slipped right in. These bolt togther cars are pretty easy.........:D
We are leaving for Pleasanton and will be displaying the car in the Chassisworks booth all weekend. Stop by and check it out. I will have Musclecar Power Magazines to giveaway. John and Eric should be around for autographs on Saturday and Sunday......:D
Garage Dog 65
08-20-2009, 08:54 AM
Wow, great progress on the bolt together !
Have you thought about recessing the oil filler cap into the fender to match the gas filler design on the tail panel ? Just some more metal work for the team ....
Enjoy the "rest time" at the show you workaholics !
Jim
tones2SS
08-20-2009, 10:56 AM
Very nice work guys!!:thumbsup: :cheers:
Beach Cruiser
08-20-2009, 11:08 AM
Oh Don't Worry I run VIR quite often. That last turn before the front stretch is sneeky, it will bit you. back strech up the hill from turn one to the tree is my favorite stretch of all the tracks, except the uphill chicane at Watkins Glen. You race on iracing regularly?
Thanks for the kind words, We have really put the effort in this week to get the car to Pleasanton this weekend to display it in the Chassisworks booth.
Rodger
My friend Jason runs it all the time on IRacing, I've used his setup. I don't have it personally, On my Christmas list though! I've been on the track in my ESP WS6 several times, You're right about the section with the S turns heading up to the Oak tree turn, my favorite part too.
Mills
Beach Cruiser
08-20-2009, 11:11 AM
There is a track day where you can actually run at VIR on Sep 7,8 I will be there. That track is better in person.
I hope someone doesnt think that is where you fill the car up with gas. That would suck
What are you driving?
markd
08-20-2009, 12:18 PM
Rodger,
Do you have clearance issues with the 295 / 35 front tires?
I also have a Chassisworks sub-frame and I am having clearance issues. I have 9” x 18” wheels and 245 / 40 tires. The tires are rubbing the frame, fenders and inner fenders when you turn the wheels.
Any suggestions?
Thanks,
Mark
BeCool68
08-20-2009, 03:45 PM
very nice!
ironworks
08-25-2009, 03:26 PM
We built and installed the Air Intake plumbing this morning with 3 90 degree 3.5" bends. The Air filter from K&N fit like a glove.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/ShopPicsAugust2009209.jpg
1969x11
08-25-2009, 05:34 PM
Where did you order the bends from? SPD? I really need to do this to my car, I have a rubber 90 then MAF with a K&N stuck on the end. Just pull that one off and send it to your old Alabama pal !!!! :lol:
tones2SS
08-25-2009, 07:13 PM
Where did you order the bends from? SPD? I really need to do this to my car, I have a rubber 90 then MAF with a K&N stuck on the end. Just pull that one off and send it to your old Alabama pal !!!! :lol:
I think Rodger and crew built it.
ironworks
08-25-2009, 07:58 PM
Where did you order the bends from? SPD? I really need to do this to my car, I have a rubber 90 then MAF with a K&N stuck on the end. Just pull that one off and send it to your old Alabama pal !!!! :lol:
Kevin, I got the bends from treadstone aluminum somewhere near you.
Talk to ya soon
Rodger
ironworks
08-27-2009, 01:49 PM
Well our Speedtech switch panel finally cleared customs and arrived this morning. From my Days of Drag racing I remembered a company from Canada that made a really nice switch panel, that was set up with some self diagnosis features that could come in handy on the side of the road or the track. The switch panel connects through a Axial cable like your computer uses. All you do is hook up the power source to the relay panel and route your power wires to the components your running.
www.speedwiresystems.com
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/ShopPicsAugust2009237.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/ShopPicsAugust2009238.jpg
Enjoy
awr68
08-27-2009, 05:17 PM
Looks like a nice piece! Where will you be mounting it?
ironworks
08-27-2009, 05:35 PM
Probably just the rollcage halo.
ironworks
08-27-2009, 06:31 PM
Rollcage progress
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/ShopPicsAugust2009239.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/ShopPicsAugust2009240.jpg
HWY Nova
08-27-2009, 09:45 PM
Nice steering wheel! Is that a new racing wheel?
--Eric
bentfab
08-28-2009, 09:45 AM
Is it me or do I see the infamous Ruptured Duck in the back ground?
ironworks
08-28-2009, 09:51 AM
That would be it.
HWY Nova
08-28-2009, 10:18 AM
Sorry if you've already explained this: What are your plans for the interior as far as the floors go? Insulation? Carpeting? Paint?
--Eric
ironworks
08-28-2009, 10:37 AM
As Jesse James said "if it does not make it stop fast or Go fast it will not go on the bike". We will put some insulaition in the car, but we are also trying get the car below 3000 lbs. We have made some compromises to have a car that is still comfortable on the highway. But at the end of the day it is meant to drive the crap out of. We hope to put 10,000 plus miles on the car next year. Car shows, autocrosses, Silver State Classic, Hot Rod Power Tour, maybe Bonneville just to say we ran the car. Maybe the Road and track one lap event.
We also plan to show things that would not usually get shown in a build, I want to expose the wiring, the AC duct work, different things like that to show that hidden details. The ECU will mount on the outside of the dash. I think I have figured out how to use a Budnik Steering wheel on a quick release hub. I have not found anybody who makes a 9 bolt lecarra steering wheel Quick release hub. But I thnk we can make our own pretty easy.
So I'm trying to get some of the best of both worlds. Some trick cool parts on a car that work at the track with as many bolt on parts as possible.
XLexusTech
08-28-2009, 10:43 AM
As Jesse James said "if it does not make it stop fast or Go fast it will not go on the bike". We will put some insulaition in the car, but we are also trying get the car below 3000 lbs. We have made some compromises to have a car that is still comfortable on the highway.
So I'm trying to get some of the best of both worlds. Some trick cool parts on a car that work at the track with as many bolt on parts as possible.
Me too thanks for taking the lead
brian mc
08-28-2009, 04:18 PM
man that had to kill you to put that pre-bent cage in there knowing what you guys can do bending & rolling your own tube, even if it was a freebie......
cars looking good saw it at the pleasanton show i like the stance for a bolt in car, not bad
it will look real good coming in 4th place everywhere!
novanutcase
08-28-2009, 04:53 PM
it will look real good coming in 4th place everywhere!
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g170/novanutcase/Emoticons/laughing.gif
John
ironworks
08-28-2009, 04:59 PM
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g170/novanutcase/Emoticons/laughing.gif
John
Yeah If you only knew, the story behind that one. We may not have gotten win on the track, But now there are 3 rules.
" There are 2 Rules" ...... Now they will say, " There are 3 rules "
Hay Brian next time you want to skip out on family pictures to go race with the boys you just let me know........ "YOU ARE THE MAN". Even if you have to cheat..... Long live Team Silver Spoon :thumbsup:
novanutcase
08-28-2009, 05:12 PM
Yeah If you only knew, the story behind that one. We may not have gotten win on the track, But now there are 3 rules.
" There are 2 Rules" ...... Now they will say, " There are 3 rules "
Hay Brian next time you want to skip out on family pictures to go race with the boys you just let me know........ "YOU ARE THE MAN". Even if you have to cheat..... Long live Team Silver Spoon :thumbsup:
Call me....I gotta hear this one!!!!:lol:
John
ironworks
09-01-2009, 02:37 PM
Time for another update. Things are going pretty smooth. We have 90% of the rollcage welded in place. Most all the parts are under the hood. We have the ATS hydraulics for the clutch on th firewall and Got the Vintage Air LS7 Engine Bracket system Anodized in black installed. We have the Willwood black master cylinder mounted on the firewall. We are going to run manual brakes no booster or hydroboost. We have the Air intake plumbing set up with a K&N air filter. We have alot of the Plumbing done in front of the core support. We got the firewall support bars located and welded to eveything but the male side that welds to the chassis. We got the Drive by Wire Throtle pedal mounted up under the dash. We are going to try and get the Clayton Machine Works gas pedal pad on the elctronic gas pedal. The Drive by wire throttle body has not shown up from Gm yet.
The Vintage air bracket system went on without a single hitch. It is very solidly constructed and seems like a pretty nice piece. We will be installing the Gen 4 unit later this afternoon. We are also working to lay out the window flanges in Solidworks to laser cut the steel flange and water jet cut the lexan windows.
Enjoy.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/ShopPicsSeptember2009033.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/ShopPicsSeptember2009029.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/ShopPicsAugust2009231.jpg
I will try and get a complete underhood picture later this afternoon.
tones2SS
09-01-2009, 04:02 PM
As usual, looking good Rodger.
GMracer
09-01-2009, 04:22 PM
:thumbsup:
HWY Nova
09-01-2009, 04:25 PM
I will try and get a complete underhood picture later this afternoon.
Get on it!
ironworks
09-01-2009, 05:45 PM
As promised, or Threatened
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/ShopPicsSeptember2009035.jpg
The start of Hanging the AC.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/ShopPicsSeptember2009036.jpg
HWY Nova
09-01-2009, 05:53 PM
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/ShopPicsSeptember2009035.jpg
Nice close-out panels under the (un-installed) carbon-fiber Cowl (between the fenders).
--Eric
camaro2nv
09-01-2009, 06:17 PM
Nice close-out panels under the (un-installed) carbon-fiber Cowl (between the fenders).
--Eric
Good eye! Thats nice!
GregWeld
09-01-2009, 06:26 PM
I should keep my big yap shut -- but noticed the bracket holding the air cleaner is built of flat stock -- and there are all those nice ROUND bars going on in there -- like the fender to core supports -- and the firewall to frame bars...
Maybe you're going to close this area off? And nobody will see what's under there....
Vegas69
09-01-2009, 06:40 PM
It's all business, just the way it should be. My only two observations are the pedals and cooling. I am running the manual wilwoods and you get more travel than vaccum assisted especially in a race enviroment. Your brake and gas pedal look to close based on my experience. With everything you have stacked in front of the radiator, I hope you don't have low speed cooling issues.
ironworks
09-01-2009, 07:02 PM
I should keep my big yap shut -- but noticed the bracket holding the air cleaner is built of flat stock -- and there are all those nice ROUND bars going on in there -- like the fender to core supports -- and the firewall to frame bars...
Maybe you're going to close this area off? And nobody will see what's under there....
The Bracket is not quite what I wanted, I came back from lunch and that is what we had. That may get changed or not, depends on time remaining before SEMA. It is just flat strap tacked togther. I need to close off the top to get all the air through the radiator as well as the sides of the core support and below the grille. I want to force all the air through the grille not allow it to go anywhere else.
With 2 big 16 fans, we should not have trouble keeping it cool, plus I put the coolers a little further out in front to get the air from around the coolers to go through the radiator with less resistance and for cooler air through the radiator. The coolers are way overkill as far as size. If we can block everything all the air going through the grille should go through the radiator.
We might scale it tommorrow.
Vegas69
09-01-2009, 07:11 PM
I didn't realize you could fit two 16's with that radiator support. On a stock core you can run two 13's if you're lucky. I'm looking at having a custom radiator built right now and the stock support is a challenge for the road course and street.
ironworks
09-01-2009, 07:13 PM
I can get you a deal on the PRC units if your interested. They are pretty nice and drop some weight off the nose of the car.
Matt@BOS
09-01-2009, 08:39 PM
Good god, I can't believe how quickly this car is coming together. Between this and the other projects going on do you ever sleep?
BTW, just curious, where are you putting the coil packs?
Matt
ironworks
09-01-2009, 11:01 PM
28 works days, maybe 10-12 hour days.
The coil packs might go on the down bars from the firewall with ATS coil brackets.
SWAPMEETCRAZY
09-02-2009, 07:23 PM
Good god, I can't believe how quickly this car is coming together. Between this and the other projects going on do you ever sleep?
BTW, just curious, where are you putting the coil packs?
Matt
Matt --your making me feel bad now--I'm having rodger make me some bed mounts right in the middle of this!!--Good thing I sent him a new cap too!!
(Still not in a hurry Rodger!! Check and cap should be there tomorrow):bow: :bow: jim
Matt@BOS
09-02-2009, 08:07 PM
28 works days, maybe 10-12 hour days.
The coil packs might go on the down bars from the firewall with ATS coil brackets.
Thanks, I figured you'd find a good place for them other then on top of the valve covers. We were trying to think of someplace good, but in the end the only real option we had was on the other side of the core support.
Its looking good, can't wait to see more progress.
Matt
ironworks
09-03-2009, 12:57 AM
James with the One Lap car has heard of amperage issues if you mount the coils to far from the plugs and make long plug wires. He was having shut off issues at 148 mph and was thinking it might be a voltage issue and that was one of the possiblities.
So function over form wins again.
And Matt you "Purple Rain Camaro" is looking great. :thumbsup:
Rodger
96z28ss
09-03-2009, 01:14 AM
This place makes a coil relocation kit that isn't that far away from the valve cover.
http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/products.html
ironworks
09-03-2009, 08:17 AM
This place makes a coil relocation kit that isn't that far away from the valve cover.
http://www.automotivedesigneng.com/products.html
Thanks but I already have a set of ATS coil bracket to locate.
Darrell
09-03-2009, 08:34 PM
Hey,vintage air stuff looks great,car looks great,and I like the pedel assembly,TOP SECRET
ironworks
09-05-2009, 04:05 PM
Well here is a Saturday Update for you guys. We are moving right along with some details that take alittle longer then the big stuff. We have Mounted the GM performance parts ECU, Which will be exposed, We mounted the Speedwire Relay panel right above that, We have the Vintage Air unit mounted off the firewall and rollcage also. We also got the Kirkey Seats mounted in the car. The Twist machine shifter is also mount to the shifter.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/ShopPicsSeptember2009037.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/ShopPicsSeptember2009038.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/ShopPicsSeptember2009039.jpg
Have a Good weekend
Rodger
GregWeld
09-05-2009, 04:25 PM
Lookin' like a race car Rodger!
GregWeld
09-05-2009, 04:45 PM
Rodger --
Is that a Syncrowave 250 or 350 in the background?? Makes my Dynasty DX look like a kids toy!!
BuiltByBrooks
09-05-2009, 09:51 PM
WoW!! look'n good
417 Motorsports
09-06-2009, 08:06 PM
Im pretty sure thats a 350... the dynasty models are badass!!! They almost pay for themselves just in the power you save runnin them :thumbsup:
And rodger, the car is looking amazing, esp for bein just bolt on parts
Payton King
09-08-2009, 08:51 AM
site. How much for that little jewel....I like it.
ironworks
09-08-2009, 09:02 AM
Give Gil A call at Speedwire. Each system is completely custom. I did not get the typical nitrous timers and other options that they offer. He will give you a price for whatever system they will build for your needs.
It this really nice quality stuff.
Tell him you saw the Camaro project on the internet.
Rodger are you doing a stock dash or a custom??
ironworks
09-09-2009, 07:50 AM
Custom aluminum unit. We are incorporating the Fuse panel and ECU into the look of the dash. We wanted to show the organization of the wiring and AC duct work under the dash. Make it a rolling business card or sorts.
Rodger
ironworks
09-14-2009, 04:29 PM
Well Time for the Monday update, we have gone alittle bit over board on some items, but we are waiting on some parts and just can't stand to leave it alone. Enjoy
We got the differential from Strange today with the just released to sell 35 spline True Trac positraction. The Chassisworks axle housing is pretty slick lookin also.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/ShopPicsSeptember2009094.jpg
Just a picture of the rear suspension completely TIG welded into position, with the Ricks Stainless fuel tank in position. They sure do sell a nice unit. We got this one with their Bosch fuel pump installed inside the tank.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/ShopPicsSeptember2009085.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/ShopPicsSeptember2009088.jpg
We are starting on the interior panel designs and placement. We will be cutting out the complete interior structure to replac eit with these panels. Wait till you see the doors and the floors panels.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/ShopPicsSeptember2009099.jpg
Enjoy
HWY Nova
09-14-2009, 05:00 PM
Wait till you see the doors and the floors panels.
We're waiting! More photos please.
--Eric
Lookin good Rodger:thumbsup:
ironworks
09-14-2009, 05:12 PM
We're waiting! More photos please.
--Eric
I'm trying, But if we don't get a few critical parts all this work will be in vein. We are working as fast as we can. I was here at 5:06 am this morning.
The BFG guys slowed us down with 2 dozen donuts for 5 guys and a dog. We each had 2.
Rodger
GregWeld
09-14-2009, 05:27 PM
I'm trying, But if we don't get a few critical parts all this work will be in vein. We are working as fast as we can. I was here at 5:06 am this morning.
The BFG guys slowed us down with 2 dozen donuts for 5 guys and a dog. We each had 2.
Rodger
Keep that up and you'll look like the Michelin Man!!
ironworks
09-15-2009, 08:45 AM
So I borrowed the scales again yesterday. Most all the parts are on the car, We lack, fluids, plumbing, and lexan windows, exhaust, mufflers, driveshaft, light weight floor insulation, wiring and and few other small items. We also do not have the actual wheels and tires on the car
For not making any adjustments to the coilovers to move weight around it is coming out nicely. Our goal of under 3000 lbs without 260lb driver should be pretty easily done. Maybe 3100lbs with driver??????
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/ShopPicsSeptember2009109.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/ShopPicsSeptember2009110.jpg
Here is a picture of the start of the dash, We plan to get busy on the engish wheel to build the rest of it very soon. The interior panels are continuing.
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/ShopPicsSeptember2009115.jpg
I'm getting nervous about some parts we cannot live without.
tones2SS
09-15-2009, 09:09 AM
Looks good Rodger, as usual.
Keep us posted please.:thumbsup:
Vegas69
09-15-2009, 09:10 AM
You guys have some serious skill....it's going to be tight on weight.
ironworks
09-15-2009, 09:14 AM
We prefer to call it LUCKY..
As far as weight under 3000 with out driver should be easy. With driver, well I did not say who was driving.......With my 260lbs everything is tight.
GMracer
09-15-2009, 10:34 AM
sick! I can't wait to see this interior
ironworks
09-18-2009, 09:51 AM
Some pics for a Friday
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/ShopPicsSeptember2009117.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/ShopPicsSeptember2009118.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/ShopPicsSeptember2009123.jpg
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/ShopPicsSeptember2009124.jpg
Enjoy have a nice weekend.
Swain
09-18-2009, 10:14 AM
So Rodger what wheels are you going with? haha
chr2002ca
09-18-2009, 10:30 AM
I've been following this post since conception and I really appreciate all the 'weight' data you have been providing. Some of the magazines lately have been focusing on weight savings and so I think it's a hot item as of late. I noticed your Friday pictures and the metal plates you recently installed that will provide mounting for your lexan windows. I'd be curious to know much much weight difference there is between the glass that normally goes in those spots versus the lexan+metal plates. I may be building a track car in the near future and was considering the lexan windows myself. Any information on that is greatly appreciated! Also, I read through the thread again and couldn't tell if you went with moly for your cage? I apologize if I missed that info somewhere.
By the way, the concept renderings are absolutely sick. I hope you get the car 'finished' in time for the Optima challenge. It's quite amazing the progress your team is making. :hail:
nvr2fst
09-18-2009, 10:48 AM
put those window surrounds back in my floor lol
looks sweet, are you going to set them with flush allen screws that would set thevibe off very nicely
ironworks
09-18-2009, 12:25 PM
So Rodger what wheels are you going with? haha
You want to post some pics of some ideas? I'm open....
nvr2fst
09-18-2009, 03:57 PM
You want to post some pics of some ideas? I'm open....
Check the c6 parts section at corvette forum.com Ive noticed a lot of used set ups for sale in the last couple of days. From Forgeline, HRE, CCW.
tones2SS
09-18-2009, 04:04 PM
WOW! As usual, awesome job Ironworks!!!:thumbsup:
ironworks
09-18-2009, 04:15 PM
Check the c6 parts section at corvette forum.com Ive noticed a lot of used set ups for sale in the last couple of days. From Forgeline, HRE, CCW.
I have a set of BUDNIKS on order and I'm due to pic them up next friday.
ironworks
09-23-2009, 10:57 AM
So Rodger what wheels are you going with? haha
I was thinking about a set of these from Budnik. :D :D :D Pretty Sweet EHH????
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/photo.jpg
tones2SS
09-23-2009, 11:45 AM
I was thinking about a set of these from Budnik. :D :D :D Pretty Sweet EHH????
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/photo.jpg
OH YEAH!! Looks good.:thumbsup:
Ricochet
09-23-2009, 12:35 PM
I was thinking about a set of these from Budnik. :D :D :D Pretty Sweet EHH????
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/photo.jpg
Car is coming along killer Rodger! What is the finish on the wheels? Paint? Powder? Inquiry minds want to know!
ironworks
09-23-2009, 12:37 PM
Funny you should say that, The center is powder coated. We are trying to decide whether to leave the hoops brushed or go with the black powder coated hoop. ?????????
Rodger
Teetoe_Jones
09-23-2009, 12:51 PM
Black hoops. Do it.
http://i36.tinypic.com/hvxvgp.jpg
Thank me later for it.
Tyler
Swain
09-23-2009, 02:14 PM
That's what I think he should do, go black on the hoops. Better make the decision within the next few mins though haha.
ironworks
09-23-2009, 02:22 PM
Well it is black, We changed the plan with minutes to spare.
Black it is. We will rely on Jay to give us an updated pic when they are back from powder coat.
Rodger
Vegas69
09-23-2009, 03:46 PM
I considered black lips on my Forgelines as well. I was worried about the tire and lip blending in photos and from a distance. At least your car is orange. I think it would of been a disaster on mine.
How much do the rims weigh?
Swain
09-23-2009, 05:11 PM
When I get them back I can weigh them. I will post some pics to. They are gunna look nice.
Rodger do they make that wheel in a three piece??
fleet
09-24-2009, 06:32 AM
http://i36.tinypic.com/hvxvgp.jpg
Two unique Camaro's in one thread. :thumbsup:
Awesome rendering Tyler. It now fills up 24" of monitor as desktop background here.
syborg tt
09-24-2009, 07:14 AM
my god that is beautiful
Black hoops. Do it.
http://i36.tinypic.com/hvxvgp.jpg
Thank me later for it.
Tyler
ironworks
09-24-2009, 08:04 AM
Rodger do they make that wheel in a three piece??
I don't think Budnik does 3 piece that I'm aware of. I'm sure Jay from Budnik (SWAIN) will chime later this morning.
A while back we had talked about doing are own one off wheels, well when we started fitting up the wheels on the car, we figured out that the backspace numbers were a lot less then a ideal for our wheel design and with our mono block idea for the wheels they would end up massive to machine, be very heavy and just not ideal to put on this car. Plus I felt that designing a one off set might be counter productive to the goal with this build. We wanted to assemble a car with Quality aftermarket parts that are commonly available for some one with some fab and design talent to assemble in the garage. We are trying to have above average results with bolt on parts. Granted we are doing a few things above and beyond, but there is no heavy duty chassis fab work or tons of engineering that we typically do on alot of our projects. The most intensive fab work done on this car is the rollcage, which was pre-bent, the interior panels that we have been replacing, and the bolt in window flanges for the lexan windows. The only thing above average is probably the cost of the parts, we have gone over budget on that for sure. But I think the results have been good so far.
So there you go a 20 minute answer for your simple question. I just wanted to explain why we made the change in the build. Enjoy
Garage Dog 65
09-24-2009, 09:15 AM
are you going to set them with flush allen screws that would set thevibe off very nicely
Is there a better way to do the blackout when mounting this way ? I see race cars all the time with black applied to the steel and not the lexan that will (I'm not sure what you call the effect) high gloss in the stress area(s) against the clear lexan and looks bad. Should you paint both - the flange and the lexan with color, and/or is there some other gaskets or other process that works ?
PS, how about a 'tri-wing' screw instead of an allen style. We used them on L1011 aircraft and they are over-torque reduction fasteners. I'll see if I can find a pic - or get some from the basement stockpile.
Jim
Garage Dog 65
09-24-2009, 09:20 AM
sample
ironworks
09-24-2009, 09:40 AM
It is set up for #10 screws, see what you have for a recessed pan head. If you scuff up the lexan the black paint will stick to the back side.
Rodger
ironworks
09-24-2009, 10:10 AM
Jim, do you have a big box of those? That would be slick.
Rodger
Garage Dog 65
09-24-2009, 10:24 AM
I'll have to check and see. I have jars full of that stuff - but might not have enough of the 10's or in the recessed pan head version.
Alcoa makes them in steel:
http://www.alcoa.com/fastening_systems/aerospace/en/product_category.asp?cat_id=733
I also found them in stainless at Crouch Sales Inc.
Neither come in black that I've found yet.
Swain
09-24-2009, 10:24 AM
Rodger do they make that wheel in a three piece??
Doom,
These wheels are 2 Piece. Maybe sometime in the near future we will get into 3 Piece. Can't wait to see them with the black lip.
ironworks
09-24-2009, 10:36 AM
I'll have to check and see. I have jars full of that stuff - but might not have enough of the 10's or in the recessed pan head version.
Alcoa makes them in steel:
http://www.alcoa.com/fastening_systems/aerospace/en/product_category.asp?cat_id=733
I also found them in stainless at Crouch Sales Inc.
Neither come in black that I've found yet.
The stainless would be cool. If we brushed the heads of the bolts it would match the steering wheel and horn button and other odds and ends.
Rodger
ironworks
09-24-2009, 12:33 PM
I was thinking about something like these.
http://www.mcmaster.com/#machine-screws/=3ruhz5
nvr2fst
09-24-2009, 07:07 PM
I was thinking about a set of these from Budnik. :D :D :D Pretty Sweet EHH????
http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt248/ironworksspeed/Chassisworks%20Camaro/photo.jpg
Sweet, Hurry up and get these on so I can envision them on a 69 you have!
Swain
09-25-2009, 02:57 PM
Here is a few Pics I just took with my phone they look kind of dark.. The centers don't look that color they look like the pic above.
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn33/friendsnhb/CERMAICCENTER.jpg
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn33/friendsnhb/CERAMIC2.jpg
ironworks
09-25-2009, 02:59 PM
Here is a few Pics I just took with my phone they look kind of dark.. The centers don't look that color they look like the pic above.
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn33/friendsnhb/CERMAICCENTER.jpg
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn33/friendsnhb/CERAMIC2.jpg
Looks good Jay, but can you take a better pic when the coastal fog clears?
Swain
09-25-2009, 03:29 PM
Damn pocket lint cleaned it off a bit.
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn33/friendsnhb/work/CERMAICCENTER-1.jpg
novanutcase
09-25-2009, 03:30 PM
Damn pocket lint cleaned it off a bit.
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn33/friendsnhb/work/CERMAICCENTER-1.jpg
WOW!!! Sweet wheel!!!:thumbsup:
John
Swain
09-25-2009, 03:35 PM
One more without the center cap
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn33/friendsnhb/work/CERAMIC3.jpg
ironworks
09-25-2009, 03:59 PM
Wow those look awesome, I must say Thanks to Tyler for letting me copy his idea. I must give credit where credit is due. So Tuesday we can install with our BFG tires.....
Thanks to the everyone at Budnik for these awesome wheels and the support on this project.
camaro2nv
09-25-2009, 04:39 PM
How much do they weigh? Black lip looks good!
awr68
09-25-2009, 04:57 PM
Looks good guys!! :thumbsup:
Swain
09-25-2009, 05:01 PM
The rears were 24.3 lbs Fronts I didn't weigh yet
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