You need to know this..........

[Ummgawa]

Google:

Blair Holt Firearm Licensing & Record of Sale Act of 2009.



Trying to slide one under the radar.

[Damn True]

Yeah, I have written to the entire CA delegation about this. Most didn't bother to even send an auto reply. Boxer & Pelosi both essentially told me to get lost and that they were supporting it. Feinstein (who once had a concealed carry permit in San Francisco....one of 5 people at the time) said she would support it.

You guys have GOT to do what you can to shoot this down with your delegation. CA is in the tank for it.

[Joejaze]

OpenCongress Summary:
The Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act would establish a nationwide system for prohibiting unlicensed gun-ownership. If approved, the law would require gun owners to apply for five-year licenses to own firearms, and would give the U.S. Attorney General broad authority over the program. There are no co-sponsors to the bill, and there is very little chance it will be adopted.

My permits have to be renewed every 3 years in New York City. whats the big deal? Am I missing something?

[Blake Foster]

i didn't read the whole thing but that is kinda what it's like here in Canada, you need permits to move your gun,and to buy a gun there is a back ground check,and blah blah blah......... you cant carry a gun arround, Legally any way.
and you know what?????
not as many people get shot. what a concept
only the drug dealers have guns and they only seem to shoot eachother, most of the time, and i'm ok with that

my .02:cheers:
different culture i guess

[jy211]

http://www.lateral-g.net/forums/showthread.php4?t=19367&highlight=Blair

[Ummgawa]

Thanks for the link to the former thread...

[LateNight72]

It has zero cosponsors. I don't think it will go too far.

[70rs]

In Wa. we have 5 year CCW permits. (concealed carry permit)
So we have to renew anyway. AND go through the background check for each firearm purchase. A long time ago, if you had a permit you could just walk in, show the permit and buy any gun and walk out. Now they look alot deeper before approving a purchase. It is the same for all legal firearms here, shotgun, rifle, pistol. But do any of you know ANY criminal that even tries to buy a weapon that way? So it really only lets our gov't keep tabs on the law abiding good guys and gals that choose to have a firearm for any legal reason. The bad guys and gals are not on the radar so to speak. They buy them from unknown sources with no record and grind off the serial numbers, use them in a crime and throw it away or re sell it to another criminal.
Hey, It sounds like a great plan to me!!

[WSSix]

i didn't read the whole thing but that is kinda what it's like here in Canada, you need permits to move your gun,and to buy a gun there is a back ground check,and blah blah blah......... you cant carry a gun arround, Legally any way.
and you know what?????
not as many people get shot. what a concept
only the drug dealers have guns and they only seem to shoot eachother, most of the time, and i'm ok with that

my .02:cheers:
different culture i guess

Unfortunately it is a different culture. Don't forget that California alone has more people in it than the entire country of Canada. This is a nation wide bill that they want to adopt. It would be great if we lived in a land that was peaceful enough that guns were never needed. Too bad that every time gun control is implemented, crime and shootings go up. Meanwhile when gun ownership raises, crime rate and shootings go down. I love facts. I just wish people would stop legislating feelings.

[Bowtieracing]

Unfortunately it is a different culture. Don't forget that California alone has more people in it than the entire country of Canada. This is a nation wide bill that they want to adopt. It would be great if we lived in a land that was peaceful enough that guns were never needed. Too bad that every time gun control is implemented, crime and shootings go up. Meanwhile when gun ownership raises, crime rate and shootings go down. I love facts. I just wish people would stop legislating feelings.

I love facts as well... And simple fact is ; more guns you have , more shootings you have. It has nothing to do how many people live in california. I guess there little bit more people in Europe.. and no problems with guns at all. That is a fact.

[Steve1968LS2]

It's all about baby steps to thier ultimate goal...

[Steve1968LS2]

I love facts as well... And simple fact is ; more guns you have , more shootings you have. It has nothing to do how many people live in california. I guess there little bit more people in Europe.. and no problems with guns at all. That is a fact.

Uh, not really... do you actually think criminals care about gun laws? All you end up doing is disarming the law abiding people.

Let me go find how the incidents of "hot burglaries" goes way up once the populace is told they can't have guns (ie, London). After all, a crook doesn't care if he breaks in while the people are home if he knows they are unarmed.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/personal-view/3613417/An-Englishmans-home-is-his-dungeon.html

But the trouble is that this kind of burglary - the kind most likely to go "wrong" - is now the norm in Britain. In America, it's called a "hot" burglary - a burglary that takes place when the homeowners are present - or a "home invasion", which is a much more accurate term. Just over 10 per cent of US burglaries are "hot" burglaries, and in my part of the world it's statistically insignificant: there is virtually zero chance of a New Hampshire home being broken into while the family are present. But in England and Wales it's more than 50 per cent and climbing. Which is hardly surprising given the police's petty, well-publicised pursuit of those citizens who have the impertinence to resist criminals.

More...

http://www.guncite.com/gun_control_gcdgbur.html

By comparing criminal victimization surveys from Britain and the Netherlands (countries having low levels of gun ownership) with the U.S., Florida State University criminologist Gary Kleck determined that if the U.S. were to have similar rates of "hot" burglaries as these other nations, there would be more than 450,000 additional burglaries per year where the victim was threatened or assaulted. (Britain and the Netherlands have a "hot" burglary rate near 45% versus just under 13% for the U.S., and in the U.S. a victim is threatened or attacked 30% of the time during a "hot" burglary.)

So, in the "gun free" utopia I guess you have a lesser chance of being shot and a way greater chance of just being robbed, beaten, raped or otherwise assaulted in your own home? Gotta love the facts :)

Crime in US going down.. in Europe going up?

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/001/266umtwb.asp

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/1760781.stm

Take away the guns.. and just get stapped... (do people actually think there was less violence before the invention of the gun?)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7508418.stm

There's lots more.. but you get the idea. For some humans violence is in thier nation and having a gun just makes them more effieciant but no more dangerous. Having good law-abiding people armed has shown to reduce overall crime, it's a fact. Again, gun laws only effect those that want to obey the law and those are the people (generally) that you don't need to worry about. :)

[Steve1968LS2]

On my remark about CCWs lowering crime... (conceled weapon permits)

note, not an unbiased site.. but the idea is sound:

http://www.azccw.com/More%20Facts%20&%20Statistics.htm

http://www.pantagraph.com/articles/2009/02/12/opinion/letters/135349.txt

According to the FBI, states with ``shall-issue'' right-to-carry laws have a 26 percent lower total violent crime rate, a 20 percent lower homicide rate, a 39 percent lower robbery rate and a 22 percent lower aggravated assault rate than those states that do not allow their citizens to legally carry guns

There are many links but unfortunatly most sites are either rabidly anti-gun or crazy the other direction.. but all the FBI stats I found show that relaxed CCW laws in states resulted in a drop in overall violent crime.

Again, the problem isn't the guns, it's who has the guns. For anyone that thinks outlawing guns will help then think about this.. are drugs illegal? yep, but that doesn't stop tons from being smuggled into the US. If they can bring in tons of drugs then bringing in "illegal" guns would be easy. And what criminal wouldn't love having a firearm when facing an unarmed population?

Just food for thought.

[acohoon]

On my remark about CCWs lowering crime... (conceled weapon permits)


There are many links but unfortunatly most sites are either rabidly anti-gun or crazy the other direction.. but all the FBI stats I found show that relaxed CCW laws in states resulted in a drop in overall violent crime.

I agree totally Steve. Here in Murray (Kentucky) literally 50% of the people I know carry a weapon either on their person or in their vehicle. Our county has a huge problem with meth and marijuana but no one ever gets broken into while they are at home and home burglaries as a whole are very low. I can not remember the last time an innocent person has been assaulted or robbed.

I asked one of my friends on the police force why he thought this was and he said "All our criminals grew up around here, they know everyone is more than capable of defending themselves, for the criminals its a self preservation thing."

I carry and am proud of it. I only laugh at people who make outrageous statements about gun crime and act like they know more about the topic when they have never actually had any firearm education (my girlfriend's sister). I then very calmly guide them to a computer and show them the information on Great Britain and that usually changes their tune right away.

[skatinjay27]

i fully agree with andy(marine71)

as far as any gun control goes its f-in stupid and youll rack your brain trying to figure out how anyone can actually think its a good idea and help the problem, yeah... since most crimes a commited with legal registered gun!:lol:

criminals dont obide by the law now what the hell makes you thinks they follow by that one. if that was the case we wouldnt have drug problems.

[Spiffav8]

Well I can tell you why...When people commit a crime in Europe they punish them a little bit more .. Our country is liberal. They slap the bad guy on the hand and slip through the cracks of our nice judicial system.If you don't believe me go ask a cop. They arrest the same people everyday for the same stuff. Its the revolving door. This is a fact. Same goes for Drug smuggling..Here you get probation ..In Laos you get the firing squad...When you spray paint a wall here you get probation..In Singapore you get the cane..If you steel here you get probation. In Saudi Arabia you get your hand taken off. Look at all those countries crime statistics..Frikin Low..I know for a fact in Saudi Arabia that they announce who they beheaded for the day for the following crimes on the news..this gets the point across. If we did that here we wouldnt have a crime problem. If your a terrorist in a jail here in America that has plotted to kill Americans you get 3 hots and a cot. And we are worried about waterbourning? Its a joke..I guess we forgot about 911 and that those Terrorists flew 2 planes into the twin towers. You go ask anyone who served in Iraq if they forgot or the families who had loved ones in those buildings. I will never forget what happened. Far as i am concerned those confirmed terrorists that we have in Cuba are taking up to much air.

Amen brother...Amen. :thumbsup:

[ProTouring442]

I love facts as well... And simple fact is ; more guns you have , more shootings you have. It has nothing to do how many people live in california. I guess there little bit more people in Europe.. and no problems with guns at all. That is a fact.

Switzerland still part of Europe, or did you guys kick them out?

Shiny Side Up!
Bill

[Spiffav8]

Originally Posted by Bowtieracing
I love facts as well... And simple fact is ; more guns you have , more shootings you have. It has nothing to do how many people live in california. I guess there little bit more people in Europe.. and no problems with guns at all. That is a fact.

"I say this respectfully and mean no disrespect" Ill have to disagree with this statement.I know what you are trying to say but i think it is to broad of a statment. You have to look at who are the "shooters" are. Regardless of what state you are in.Look at the state of Montana. LOts of people have guns there. DOn't hear to much about that. How about Texas? Same thing... Just because you have alot of guns doesn't mean you are going to have alot of shootings. In reference to Europe .Europe has seen their fair share of shootings, Some seriously bad ones. Alot of blame goes to the media and what they report also. The laws in Europe are more strict and are more strongly enforced. We have DA's all around the country here that always wanna make a deal.The next thing you know BAM! they are on probation and back out. This is a fact! I have seen it. There is a Town in Utah that requires you to own a gun to live in it. Ask how many shootings they have? None...Majority of shootings occur in low income areas where people have no money. Most of them are stolen guns. When their are guns in these area there are drugs. Look at the FBI and your local PD statistics.

I've done a few rides with the Las Vegas Metro Police Department and one thing that struck me as odd is the amount of and type of paper work an officer has to do. Mainly the fact that if the officer doesn't do things perfect the DA throws it out, considering it a waste of their time. Basically the DA is looking for the easy cases where most everything is done for them. I was also amazed how all the officers I rode with where on a first name basis with some of the thugs due to arresting them so many times. I'll tell you I have more respect for police officers after seeing what they deal with and go through on a daily basis. For anyone that doesn't feel it necessary to own a fire arm (and know how to use it through proper training) I would invite you to do a ride with the police department. Go at night and in the worst part of town. To chicken....sit in with a 911 call taker and listen to the calls that come in all night. Educate your self and see the reality. Maybe then we can all push to get the laws enforced, punishment served and put a stop to needless violence.

One last tid bit....if you think the cops are going to arrive to save the day just in the nick of time when that bad guy comes calling, you are sadly mistaken. Don't get me wrong they would love to be there and take care of things, but the reality is that they are busy fighting criminals in those places you avoid. The old saying of "It's better to have a gun in the hand than a cop on the phone" is true in a lot of ways. It is sad and I look forward to a time when I don't feel it necessary to have my guard up all the time.

People....don't be sheep.

[ProTouring442]

Remember, when seconds count, the police are only minutes away!

Shiny Side Up!
Bill

[ItDoRun]

My arsenal is stocked and ready to go! I can promise you that I won't wait on a cop to get to my house. Business will be taken care of especially when it comes to protecting my family. Don't get me wrong, I don't ever want to be put in a situation like that, but I can promise you that 911 will be called AFTER the damage is done if I am.

The problem is this pathetic judicial system we have. It's pitiful and only getting worse. We'd rather slap someone on the hand than serve them rightful justice. Most of these criminals have a better lifestyle in prison than they did at home! Here's an idea. Cut out the a/c, 7 course meals, and all other privelages these thugs get from our tax dollars and treat them like they treated others.

We live in a CLUE IMPAIRED society and if Americans don't wake up pretty soon our poor children will never see the real beauty of this "once great" country. All they'll see is they're freakin' paychecks taken from them from this bonehead government along with their freedom. WAKE UP AMERICA! It's slowly happening before your very eyes!

Whew, I feel better now! Sorry, but I just really get worked up over the direction this country is headed.

[Spiffav8]

My arsenal is stocked and ready to go! I can promise you that I won't wait on a cop to get to my house. Business will be taken care of especially when it comes to protecting my family. Don't get me wrong, I don't ever want to be put in a situation like that, but I can promise you that 911 will be called AFTER the damage is done if I am.

The problem is this pathetic judicial system we have. It's pitiful and only getting worse. We'd rather slap someone on the hand than serve them rightful justice. Most of these criminals have a better lifestyle in prison than they did at home! Here's an idea. Cut out the a/c, 7 course meals, and all other privelages these thugs get from our tax dollars and treat them like they treated others.

We live in a CLUE IMPAIRED society and if Americans don't wake up pretty soon our poor children will never see the real beauty of this "once great" country. All they'll see is they're freakin' paychecks taken from them from this bonehead government along with their freedom. WAKE UP AMERICA! It's slowly happening before your very eyes!

Whew, I feel better now! Sorry, but I just really get worked up over the direction this country is headed.

One little piece of advice. Call 911 and report as much as you can before you pull the trigger. Make sure you are very verbal with warnings to the individual you are about to shoot. Nothing says this has to be a long drawn out process. Just do it so it's all on the 911 tape. You called for help, you warned your attacker and you defended your self and your family and it's all on tape. That will come in handy if you end up in court.

Other than that you are spot on! :thumbsup:

[ItDoRun]

The sad part is that if you shot someone in your home (say in the leg b/c you didn't want to kill them) our lovely legal sytem would make sure that the guy you shot was living in your home the when he got out of the hospital.

I hope I'm never put in that situation, really!

[Steve1968LS2]

The sad part is that if you shot someone in your home (say in the leg b/c you didn't want to kill them) our lovely legal sytem would make sure that the guy you shot was living in your home the when he got out of the hospital.

I hope I'm never put in that situation, really!

That's why it doesn't pay to "shoot to wound".. if you have to shoot then do it to kill. If you don't have to kill then don't shoot.

The 911 deal is a good back-up.. give warnings, sound scared and be sure to empty the weapon into the assailant ;)

[Teetoe_Jones]

Expecting a carjacker or rapist or drug pusher to care that his possession or use of a gun is unlawful is like expecting a terrorist to care that his car bomb is taking up two parking spaces.

Criminals are counting on the fact that their victim is unarmed. No one likes to be shot at, especially criminals, so they like to prey on the helpless. If law abiding citizens are allowed to play with criminals on a level playing field crime rates would drop so fast it would make your head spin. "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." -Ben Franklin

I carried a firearm daily in Vegas. I've seen some bad things go down there, beatings, stabbings, robbery etc. I've never seen a police officer arrive in time to prevent any of those things, and every victim was unarmed. I wonder what would have happened if every victim was armed? Maybe something like this?

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/19365762/detail.html


College Student Shoots, Kills Home Invader

Posted: 4:53 pm EDT May 4, 2009
Updated: 9:09 am EDT May 7, 2009

COLLEGE PARK, Ga. -- A group of college students said they are lucky to be alive and they’re thanking the quick-thinking of one of their own. Police said a fellow student shot and killed one of two masked me who burst into an apartment.

Channel 2 Action News reporter Tom Jones met with one of the students to talk about the incident.

“Apparently, his intent was to rape and murder us all,” said student Charles Bailey.

Bailey said he thought it was the end of his life and the lives of the 10 people inside his apartment for a birthday party after two masked men with guns burst in through a patio door.

“They just came in and separated the men from the women and said, ‘Give me your wallets and cell phones,’” said George Williams of the College Park Police Department.

Bailey said the gunmen started counting bullets. “The other guy asked how many (bullets) he had. He said he had enough,” said Bailey.

That’s when one student grabbed a gun out of a backpack and shot at the invader who was watching the men. The gunman ran out of the apartment.

The student then ran to the room where the second gunman, identified by police as 23-year-old Calvin Lavant, was holding the women.

“Apparently the guy was getting ready to rape his girlfriend. So he told the girls to get down and he started shooting. The guy jumped out of the window,” said Bailey.

A neighbor heard the shots and heard someone running nearby.

“And I heard someone say, ‘Someone help me. Call the police. Somebody call the police,’” said a neighbor.

The neighbor said she believes it was Lavant, who was found dead near his apartment, only one building away.

Bailey said he is just thankful one student risked his life to keep others alive.

“I think all of us are really cognizant of the fact that we could have all been killed,” said Bailey.

One female student was shot several times during the crossfire. She is expected to make a full recovery.

Police said they are close to making the arrest of the second suspect.

Here is a full thread of these type of stories:
http://corner-carvers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21233

Tyler

[Spiffav8]

All this gun talk makes me want to shoot the sprinkler huh Curtis .hahahaahh. We should invite mr Bowtie. Wait....there will be lots of guns....Oh no,,,!!!!hahahahahahahaah

After all the paper work I've been doing I think "The Sprinkler" would be the perfect way to blow off a little steam. :thumbsup:

[skatinjay27]

That's why it doesn't pay to "shoot to wound".. if you have to shoot then do it to kill. If you don't have to kill then don't shoot.

yep... i think thats just something you have to realize when you choose to carry a gun, you have the power to kill someone and if your now willing to accept that responsibility then dont carry.
i agree 100 percent shoot to kill of you must shoot.

"dead men tell no tales"

[jcal87]

did this pass?

[Mick Mc]

I love facts as well... And simple fact is ; more guns you have , more shootings you have. It has nothing to do how many people live in california. I guess there little bit more people in Europe.. and no problems with guns at all. That is a fact.



I love facts

90+% of the time shooters are within 7 feet of each other.
90+% of the time the shooter misses (within 7 feet of each other)
Most shooters know each other and 50% of the time are related.

After you fire that 9mm at night, you are going to be blinded for at least 30 seconds. 40caliber has less flash. If you don't fire a gun regularly the sound alone will stop most people as their mind tries to process whats going on and when and where and how to react (am I the shooter or the shootee, do I run or walk, am I the aggressor or am I scared out of my wits)

If you think you're going to fire a hand gun down a dark hallway, at night, in your unders, and kill an intruder, think again.
Buy a shotgun. If you point a shotgun down the hall and pull the trigger, you have a much better change of hitting your something and maybe even your target.
The universal sound that everyone, and I mean everyone knows, is the sound of a shotgun cocking, that sound alone will scare most people away, intruders, your girlfriends ex-boyfriend, even dogs.

In Washington DC it was illegal for gun ownership, and they had the highest rate of gun deaths in the country.

Chris Rock said if bullets were $5000 a piece there would be alot less shootings.
Have you noticed the shortage of bullets lately, and the price, think about that...



Mick

[jcal87]

Joe Horn from Texas kills two intruders.

_7jqLie6-Y0

[Spiffav8]

Might sound odd coming from me but Mr. Horn was not justified in this shooting. Though I believe he was eventually cleared of the shooting, he put him self in harms way by leaving the safety of his home. He was right to call 911 and report as much info as he could. It was a VERY short time from the moment he pulled the trigger to when the police ordered him to get down on the ground. Even then he was uncooperative saying no at first. It sounds like Mr. Horn was looking for a reason to shoot these guys to me. Just not very smart about it. Hey if you're going to screw up....at least make a good tape.

[jcal87]

Well lets put it this way somones gonna steel your car i confront them with a gun a warn them "if you move your dead" and they move im shooting because i dont know what thier intentions are they could be reaching for a gun or running at me would you see it justified? Iam a firm believer that this sent a strong message to robbers that if you try to steel you might just lose your life.

[Spiffav8]

Well lets put it this way somones gonna steel your car i confront them with a gun a warn them "if you move your dead" and they move im shooting because i dont know what thier intentions are they could be reaching for a gun or running at me would you see it justified? Iam a firm believer that this sent a strong message to robbers that if you try to steel you might just lose your life.

While I would LOVE to have you as a neighbor, I would rather keep my friend and risk the lose of the car. I know you would do everything you could to help the police catch them. Calling 911 and if necessary following them in your car while reporting to the police where they are going. I would hate to see you risk your life over a car. Even worse I would hate to live next to your widow and kids. (like I want to mow your lawn the rest of my life)

Now if you are walking back from the mail box and they are driving off in my car and try to run you over as you yell at them....pull out your 45 and fill the windshield with holes. At that point it's self defense.

:cheers: So when are you buying the house next door?

[Spiffav8]

I re-read my post and realized I didn't answer your question.

If you confronted a person (or persons) who where stealing my car and ended up shooting them would you be justified? In my opinion...NO. Reason being is you put your self in danger and you are not on your property. Now if you catch a person (or persons) stealing your car and you confront them would you be justified? In my opinion....YES. Reason being is they put you in a position where you where forced to defend your self and or family.

If you did see someone stealing my car, I would hope that you would do whatever you safely can to help. Number 1....be a good witness!!! Get all the info you can. Description of the thief's, what they are wearing, hair color, height, race, etc. License plate, make and model of all cars involved...especially mine. Listen to the the 911 operator and answer all their questions. Know what to tell the 911 operator to get things moving faster....best thing you can tell them is that the guy has a gun. Yell out the window at the thief's..."I've called the cops" kind of thing. Yeah it sounds goofy but if you know you've been spotted you'll run. (ever get busted T-Ping the neighbors house as a kid?)

Last lil bit....Let's say you witness a man force my wife into my house or you witness someone break into my home and you know my wife sleeps during the day. You grab your gun, enter my home and shoot the guy who is beating my wife or worse. Are you justified? Yes and I hope you kill the guy ten times over. However...just remember to grab your cell and dial 911 if you have time. If nothing else the call will be recorded.

[Spiffav8]

I love facts

90+% of the time shooters are within 7 feet of each other.
90+% of the time the shooter misses (within 7 feet of each other)
Most shooters know each other and 50% of the time are related.



Funny you mention that. A very good friend of mine is an officer that shot and killed a gang member during a jewelry store robbery. He was less than 7 feet from the guy and fired all 14 rounds from his Glock in less than a second. 8 of them hit the guy. Talk about an adrenalin rush! He was so focused on what was happening he didn't even notice the officer 3 feet to his right fire 12 rounds from his AR.

[jcal87]

I re-read my post and realized I didn't answer your question.

If you confronted a person (or persons) who where stealing my car and ended up shooting them would you be justified? In my opinion...NO. Reason being is you put your self in danger and you are not on your property. Now if you catch a person (or persons) stealing your car and you confront them would you be justified? In my opinion....YES. Reason being is they put you in a position where you where forced to defend your self and or family.

If you did see someone stealing my car, I would hope that you would do whatever you safely can to help. Number 1....be a good witness!!! Get all the info you can. Description of the thief's, what they are wearing, hair color, height, race, etc. License plate, make and model of all cars involved...especially mine. Listen to the the 911 operator and answer all their questions. Know what to tell the 911 operator to get things moving faster....best thing you can tell them is that the guy has a gun. Yell out the window at the thief's..."I've called the cops" kind of thing. Yeah it sounds goofy but if you know you've been spotted you'll run. (ever get busted T-Ping the neighbors house as a kid?)

Last lil bit....Let's say you witness a man force my wife into my house or you witness someone break into my home and you know my wife sleeps during the day. You grab your gun, enter my home and shoot the guy who is beating my wife or worse. Are you justified? Yes and I hope you kill the guy ten times over. However...just remember to grab your cell and dial 911 if you have time. If nothing else the call will be recorded.

Yeah true but hey who would really miss them...I think i just have to much Texan and military in me :lol:

[Mick Mc]

Curtis
Did you find a job yet?
Are we going to hang out at SEMA again this year?
You should show up in Columbus, it's a killer time...






Mick

[Spiffav8]

Curtis
Did you find a job yet?
Are we going to hang out at SEMA again this year?
You should show up in Columbus, it's a killer time...






Mick

Nope still not working and it sucks! Got a few irons in the fire that if they pan out will be awesome. But the way things have been going I'm not holding my breath.

Hell Yes we are going to hang out at SEMA again this year! WTF are you thinking! LOL If there isn't an official LG party, I'm having a BBQ at my house. Of course now that I just said that I'll be in the sand box as part of a new job during SEMA. :unibrow:

If I had a place to stay and a ride to and from....I'd be at Columbus. Same with the power tour. I've got all the time in the world for events, just no money. LOL

See you soon! :cheers:

[Spiffav8]

Yeah true but hey who would really miss them...I think i just have to much Texan and military in me :lol:

To much Texan and Military...is that possible? :lol:

Trust me I do like the way you think! It just isn't that easy. lol