Project PT-57, 1957 Truck, Built By Hot Rod Jim's [Archive]

rat_rod_russell

04-20-2009, 03:12 AM

Sorry but I'd not seen F-Bomb until yesterday when some one asked to see the two dog fight when we're done.

Thanks for all the kudos I want to try to get this one cranked out asap. Since I sold my 57 Sedan I've been without a cool car. And its getting to me. So with our further ado here's another update

With the new equipment we’ve obtained and the addition of the laser cutting to our arsenal we’ve decided to scrap the original frame for several renovations making it stronger and simpler to build. The easer to build the frames the lower the price will be. We’ve started over with the design taking everything to the computer to so we can look at every aspect of the chassis. This is how we will start playing with sizes and reference them to clearance on the car. Next we’ll take the corvette suspension geometry and plug it into Suspension Analyzer and then find the specific angles and mounting points of for the suspension that will best work for the trucks.

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/solid_drawings/s-1.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/solid_drawings/l-1.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/solid_drawings/s-2.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/solid_drawings/l-2.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/solid_drawings/s-3.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/solid_drawings/l-3.jpg)

Parts have been rolling in steadily and work is progressing on the body. The Air Ride bags have been here for some time and we’ve been playing with them but the Air Ride 4100 Level Ride System just got here. You can see the details these guys go though to make sure you have everything. It never ceases to amaze me the quality in each box. You can see the considerably longer bags in for the rear pivot system. The two aluminum bottles on the corner are going to be 2 of the bombs for our bomb racks. These will be sealed and plumbed to act as air tanks for the air ride system.

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These are the tires going onto the PT-57 so we can put all this effort to the ground. The right is a 354/35/R19 for the rear and the left is a 275/40/R18 for the front. (no it’s not the actual tire for the front but I couldn’t get to it right then.) And a little reference for the guys who’ve never seen a 345 in person.

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The Transmission got painted then we noticed the case had that ear cracked on it, taped it with a hammer and chased it down. We’ll clean it up and patch it back up later. The motor and transmission goodies all came in a few days ago too. The custom PTC torque converter, custom cam, dual valve springs, titanium retainers, all the gaskets and bolts that would need to be replaces also come with Thunder Racings swap kit all shown here.

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The 6.0 is in another chassis having headers fitted right now but the next set will be the same. We get the LS1 Street headers from LG Motor Sports then modify them to clear the transmission. Their tight and clear the steering linkage beautifully, plus there stainless.

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-Russell

ccracin

04-20-2009, 05:49 AM

how...

o let me guess the color?
yeah because f-bomb was the first car EVER painted flat green!:lol:

Not to mention the blatant rip off the whole WWII bomber fleet! I wish we could be original here! :lol:

This project is looking Bad A$$. Great Job to Ben as usual! I'll be subscribed to this one.

GHOSTDANCER

04-20-2009, 11:55 AM

:thumbsup: Can't wait to see this come together:thumbsup:

JamesJ

04-20-2009, 02:04 PM

Cool concept but a pretty blatent influence by F-Bomb...

I have seen many cars that were similar to F-bomb built many years before, since you must just look at mags, and the internet you have not seen any of them.... It helps to get your stuff in ink when your in the biz...

G-Body

04-20-2009, 05:17 PM

Ummmmmmm im all for a great theme and flow to a build not really feeling this. thats such a nice style of truck be hard to put the energy in it and be flat green!

Hdesign

04-20-2009, 06:16 PM

Thanks again for letting me help out Russell....I can never pass up a chance to work on projects like this.

ironworks

04-20-2009, 06:42 PM

I like the design in the grille with the horizontal and vertical lines.

If you get it done, we can race, for the fastest truck on LAT-G with vette suspension.

Kendall Burleson

04-20-2009, 06:55 PM

He telling the truth about not see the F-bomb 73 camaro the what I thought went I saw the art work but this is a fifty seven truck(pickup) I love it.Rodger I have a c-note says he will out run you loaded with a trailer hook up.IT a shop truck:yes: :yes: :yes:

Hdesign

04-20-2009, 07:36 PM

Rodger-one of the first things I thought of when Russell told me it was a 57 is that I wanted to get rid of those vertical connectors to the inner grill. Then we got the idea to turn it into a set of cross hairs. (one on each side)

rat_rod_russell

04-21-2009, 02:32 AM

I like the design in the grille with the horizontal and vertical lines.

If you get it done, we can race, for the fastest truck on LAT-G with vette suspension.

Maybe if I get that stroker in mine or if we get to race on my home track :D. I've seen your C5 truck and it looks killer, I know I can't hold a candle to you on the track... right now :unibrow:

But I like Kendall's Idea too, we can go bumper to bumper and play that would be fun, eat a set of tires but still a blast.

Rodger-one of the first things I thought of when Russell told me it was a 57 is that I wanted to get rid of those vertical connectors to the inner grill. Then we got the idea to turn it into a set of cross hairs. (one on each side)

Ben's idea entirely same with the design of the door logo,the speed holes in the visor and the GMC front bumper. His flow of the plate lines and rivets on the truck is perfect too. Saved me a bunch of time

Thanks
-Russell

rat_rod_russell

04-21-2009, 05:29 AM

Ummmmmmm im all for a great theme and flow to a build not really feeling this. thats such a nice style of truck be hard to put the energy in it and be flat green!

Me personally, I'm not into the looking at kind of shinny. As a compromise this one will be semi gloss. I need to seal the air brush work and I've never seen a 100% flat that I really liked that wasn't a single stage. So a semi gloss clear will have to do.

-Russell

ironworks

04-21-2009, 08:08 AM

Ben's idea entirely same with the design of the door logo,the speed holes in the visor and the GMC front bumper. His flow of the plate lines and rivets on the truck is perfect too. Saved me a bunch of time

Thanks
-Russell

Yeah that Ben guy is pretty slick with all his new fangled Iders...He should draw pitures for a livin or somethin.......:D

Warning this post requires translation, I do not type this bad, Just pretend your Paul Sr.....

rat_rod_russell

05-13-2009, 11:36 PM

Update Time
Jim’s been back in the shop more and Billy was told by the doctor if your back hurts then don’t lift that. I swear that kid’s healing rate is ridiculous, breaks 3 vertebra and losses 1” to his height. 5 months later he’s back at his weights and working 7 days with me in the shop, just wow.

Onto the truck, the Grill is going together nicely, we’ve taken out all the teeth, welded up the seams and slicked them off with marine tex. We’ve welded in holders on the back so we can start shaping the cross hare supports for the front.

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Jim’s been shaping some exhaust tubing for our hood “Exhaust” These will be our heat ducts for the engine compartment and look like the old plane exhausts.

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We’ve found the mother lode of body gods, Terry is in his late 50 and has been doing body work since he was 14. He’s been kind enough to take time out (and escape from his wife) to teach Billy and I tricks to body work. But despite being an old guy he’s up on the latest body world technology too. Front fenders are done and un warped thanks to Terry’s welding tricks. I’ve also rented him a space in the back of the shop where he can do other projects for guys he knows. We’ve also been getting a lesson on how much uni-body suck but that’s another story.

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Exhaust Question’s
He’s the dilemma, the car will have LQ4 6.0 with a cam (274/274 .556 lift and 112+4 LSA) Long tube headers, 2.5” stainless mandrel bent tubing, TIG’d together, with a X pipe. There will be the turn outs in front of the X on a remote for “fun time” but my problem is what kind of song to I want the tail pipes to sing. I heard a ZR1 the other day with Borla mufflers and it sounded rowdy and all kinds of evil but at the same time I keep thinking go with the flow master 50 series. Their more reserved with a rumble of “I’m not stock” to them. I’ve got a set of both right now, Borla for a C5 race car I’m specing out and some Flow Master 50’s going on a 57 hardtop I’m doing too. What are the preferences of our members and why.

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Thanks
Russell Alexander
Hot Rod Jim's

rat_rod_russell

06-05-2009, 05:24 PM

Thanks for all the positive feedback. We’ve been rat killing down here and upgrading the shop. New toys and some reorganization move the welding table and getting some of the old Jigs out of the way. We’ve also been researching several parts and dealers.
New Band Saw

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/other/shop_tools/ellis_1800/s-1.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/other/shop_tools/ellis_1800/l-1.jpg)

The Big News is that we will be going to SEMA this year and the truck with us. Part 2 we’ve also been invited to the Optima Batter Street Car Invitational’s with the PT-57. That presents a bit of a problem. See, I’m competitive by nature so the original plan of a good driving trailer pulling truck is going to need some modification to make the truck capable of running with the toys going out there. So we’re permanently halting the Meteor Project (Dad’s 57 Hardtop) and sacking some of its goodies for the Truck project. The LS7 we had for sale if you missed it. We’re going to be upgrading to a TKO600 or Magnum T56. LQ4 is going to transform into a 408 Stroker and several other upgrades to the chassis and suspension.

Cough cough, carbon fiber half shafts and drive shafts, cough cough.

As for the truck we’ve just about gotten the dash sorted out and hood vents are starting to come together. We’re building a new Jig table to make this project even easier and better so stay tuned.

The Hood Vents (Sorry but my good camera was gone so I took these on my Phone)

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The Dash

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Thanks
Russell
Hot Rod Jim’s

syborg tt

06-09-2009, 08:31 PM

:thumbsup: This truck is going to look way cool.

I really like the color scheme and I can't wait to see it at Sema.

rat_rod_russell

06-13-2009, 03:53 AM

:thumbsup: This truck is going to look way cool.

I really like the color scheme and I can't wait to see it at Sema.

That makes two of us, LOL. :willy:

We have the new table finished. I spend 3 days tweaking and heat shrinking to make sure the welding from attaching the legs made the table square and level. Plus this metal is not that great from the factory so compensating for that as well. Got the cab up today the bead will be up on the table tomorrow with the rear fender and the big wheels.

Big change, after tweaking and playing with the C4 bits and pieces plus I started looking at widening the rear end to get some better wheel scrub radius. I was going to need 4” wider rear and the C4 hubs still have almost no scrub angle. From what I can tell it’s .25 degrees maybe, I almost thing there was something under the caliper at one point. Plus the brakes and on and on I’ve decided to just run the C5/6 goodies. I had 3-4 complete suspensions out back, I need to test the C5/c6 differential adapter we’ve built and it’ll be a whole lot easier to set up right. Pfadt sway bars only need to be shortened a little and bow-chick-a-bow-wow we’ve got fun. You can see the Solidworks drawings, this makes life so much easier.

As you can see a lot of the simplicity originally planned went out the window with our SEMA invite, oh well.

Potential project changes, TKO600 or T56 Magnum, Stroke out the LQ4 and a bump to the compression. Carbon fiber goodies here and there to include a carbon fiber driveshaft for reduced rotating mass.

I’d also like to thank Air Ride Technologies for sponsoring by upgrading our Shockwaves to the I.S. Internal Ride Height Sensors. One less thing to mount, more accurate, and lighter once you consider all the pushrods nuts and bolts used to prevent binding on the old ones. I’ll get some photos up when I get them back.

Solid Works Updates

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PT-57 one the New Jig

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-Russell

Ketzer

06-13-2009, 07:34 AM

Awesome build! Good looking shop cat.

You do know that SEMA is in November, right? How do you guys do it? :hail:

Jeff-

rat_rod_russell

06-13-2009, 03:02 PM

Awesome build! Good looking shop cat.

You do know that SEMA is in November, right? How do you guys do it? :hail:

Jeff-

No life :thumbsup:

-Russell

ironworks

06-13-2009, 06:38 PM

You care to share the vette a arm solidworks files?

lookin good

rat_rod_russell

06-13-2009, 07:13 PM

No life :thumbsup:

-Russell

And Monster, cases and cases of the Green Monsters

You care to share the vette a arm solidworks files?

lookin good

The admin at SEMA would kill me. Hunt me down and kill me, arrrr :captain: I asked the head of the Tech Share program a while back and they told me no, sorry.

-Russell

rat_rod_russell

08-02-2009, 05:24 PM

So I had a hard drive crash on me and I lost a bunch of photos of the truck that I hadn’t gotten onto the backup server, o well. So there has been work done I just can’t show it.

I’ve finally gotten my hands on Suspension Analyzer v2.0 and I’ve spent a few weeks playing with C5 corvette suspension geometry in finding the weak links and where to improve on them. I’ve also been racing a few C5 Z06 Corvettes getting more familiar with their traits and trading suspension tuning for seat time so I could get some hands on time looking into actual tuning results on these babies. I work on them plenty but I almost never get a chance to tweak, log, tweak, and log to see what the actual results look like in real life.

So our goal is improved handling over a corvette but in our PT-57. The C5 Corvette relies heavily on the face that the large rubber bushing will deflect. Under heavy turning the C5 will see up to 8 degrees of positive camber on the outside tire. Way too much but the roll center on a C5 is a thing of beauty only moving a few inches through almost any suspension travel or roll. Better for drivers to feel the car but it hurts the possible handling that the car could be capable of with a few minor angle changes and upgrades.

What I’ve done with our car is lower the roll center and remove a large portion without getting too much roll center migration. Migration make it harder to feel what the suspension is doing but it also directly related to how much grip you can get out of a car. I’ve cut the positive camber in half during turn in and I’ve relocated the A arms to better accommodate the anti dive needs for the truck. Front swing arms have been moved out to match up with the swing of the rear suspension so the tires will roll together so I can simply soften a corner for improved grip. I’m going with all Pfadt upgraded bushing and for the sake of simplicity coil over shocks for now. I’ve attached some photos the current setup and I’ll be getting more knocked out soon and get some more updates out as soon as I email the frame parts out to the Laser.

Power train upgrade, STS Twin Turbo system will help push our little baby around the track. The Side pipes will be hooked up to the waist gates so when we hit that back strait we should see some flames. :evil:

I miss worded my previous statement about the Optima Battery race and I apologies. We have not been 100% officially invited as the car is not finished yet but I talked with Jimi Day over at FM3 and we have a tentative spot in the race as long as we get the truck done in time. With that said I’m heading back into the shop.

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tones2SS

08-03-2009, 12:55 PM

WOW!!
Sweet looking rendering. Can't wait to see the finished product.:cheers:

Josh69

08-04-2009, 12:28 PM

Excellent! My next build has to be a truck, you guys are killin' me here! Thank god we have guys like you and Rodger to figure these out for the boneheads like me to bolt together!! :thumbsup:

rat_rod_russell

08-06-2009, 04:26 AM

Excellent! My next build has to be a truck, you guys are killin' me here! Thank god we have guys like you and Rodger to figure these out for the boneheads like me to bolt together!! :thumbsup:

Thanks I hope Rodger brings his truck so I don't feel lonely :unibrow:

On the to the update

Parts and Design

Finally broke down and bought a new processor for my computer and now I can work without the darn thing dying when Solidworks loads up calculating changes.

Steering arm parts came in from the laser yesterday. I just got them nailed together, I’ll try to get some photos on the knuckle next time. You can see the 3D model up in my previous post.

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/parts_2/s-3.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/parts_2/l-3.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/parts_2/s-1.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/parts_2/l-1.jpg)

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/parts_2/s-2.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/parts_2/l-2.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/parts_2/s-6.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/parts_2/l-6.jpg)

BIG thanks to the crew over at Pfadt. Not only did they send me there new aluminum lower mounts they also built special models for me to add into the computer. They even build special radius pieces into the shock so when I check the suspension travel I make sure the Patten Pending Delrin / Aluminum upper mount doesn’t bind up. Huge thanks for that. Next to the shocks are the Sway bar arms from Pfadt. The Rear is going to be the stock C5 width (The C5 rear is wider than the C6) so we can use Pfadt’s stock rear sway bar and the front will be custom cut for our narrowed front end.

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/parts_2/s-4.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/parts_2/l-4.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/parts_2/s-5.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/parts_2/l-5.jpg)

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/solid_drawings/s-23.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/solid_drawings/l-23.jpg)

-Russell

SickSpeedMonte

08-06-2009, 07:27 AM

Very cool project! I can't wait to see some more progress.

I need to start playing around with Solid Works again (hopefully my lisence is still good)

SicMonte

08-06-2009, 09:39 AM

I love it!! This is right up my alley since I am very into military vehicles and my favorite trucks of all time are 58-59 apaches. This just made my day!!!

Good luck and keep up with the updates!!!:hail:

rat_rod_russell

08-07-2009, 07:24 AM

Chassis preview, I should be done this weekend and have my cut list out to the laser Monday. Mawhahaha, Nothing like an October dead line for a 3 man shop and a truck on a table. :lol: need more monster and red bull.

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/solid_drawings/s-24.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/solid_drawings/l-24.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/solid_drawings/s-25.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/solid_drawings/l-25.jpg)

-Russell

rat_rod_russell

08-09-2009, 01:27 AM

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/solid_drawings/s-27.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/solid_drawings/l-27.jpg)

- Russell

BuiltByBrooks

08-09-2009, 10:00 PM

I'm jealous of your solid works skills:hail:

I can only do the basic stuff on soildworks...

Nice build by the way:cheers:

rat_rod_russell

08-14-2009, 04:00 PM

The first batch of Laser Cut Parts are here for the PT-57's frame. You can see that the frame is designed with keys and center reinforcements to take the loading from the suspension and spread them out across the frame preventing deflection or flexing at the frame rail without making it crazy heavy. With the interlocking frame pieces I weld the interlocking centers from the insides and tack them real heavy all over. I was thinking of fully welding them but I warped one even after it had 5 C clamps holding it to the table. The second one shown here was much easier with the heavy tacks. Got it all clamped together then started tacking the other side once I got all the individual parts tacked to both sides I didn’t have any problems and you can see she’s strait as an arrow.

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/01/s-1.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/01/l-1.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/01/s-2.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/01/l-2.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/01/s-3.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/01/l-3.jpg)

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/01/s-4.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/01/l-4.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/01/s-5.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/01/l-5.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/01/s-6.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/01/l-6.jpg)

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/01/s-7.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/01/l-7.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/01/s-8.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/01/l-8.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/01/s-9.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/01/l-9.jpg)

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/01/s-10.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/01/l-10.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/01/s-11.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/01/l-11.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/01/s-12.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/01/l-12.jpg)

The Corbeau Forza seats got here Monday. I’m going to put them in my roadster for now and then into the truck if I can’t get a set of the FX1’s. We plan on dyeing the seats silver and embroidering rivets into them to look like old aluminum bomber seats.

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/interior/s-1.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/interior/l-1.jpg)

Suspension came back from Southern Powder Coating in Lockhart Texas. We left the ball joints in because I’m waiting on Aaron with Pfadt to get his first batch of their aftermarket upper ball joints in then I’ll swap them out but for now and mockup these will be fine. The C6 diff up on the table in place and I’ll get the suspension back to the hubs and we’ll get this chassis rolling ASAP.

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/parts_2/s-7.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/parts_2/l-7.jpg)

-Russell
Hot Rod Jim’s
http://www.hotrodjim.com

fleetus macmullitz

08-14-2009, 04:05 PM

Russell,

Nice progress.:thumbsup:

(BTW-when clicking on the pics in your 1st post today, it doesn't make the pics bigger.)

rat_rod_russell

08-14-2009, 04:39 PM

Russell,

Nice progress.:thumbsup:

(BTW-when clicking on the pics in your 1st post today, it doesn't make the pics bigger.)

you think I would stop posting these before I go to sleep.

Thanks Skip

-Russell

fleetus macmullitz

08-14-2009, 04:51 PM

Those laser cut parts look outstanding Russell! :thumbsup:

rat_rod_russell

08-28-2009, 11:30 PM

Rear frame main rails are knocked out, that’s these parts.

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/02/s-1.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/02/l-1.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/02/s-2.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/02/l-2.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/02/s-3.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/02/l-3.jpg)

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/02/s-4.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/02/l-4.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/02/s-5.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/02/l-5.jpg)

The Front batch of laser parts came in, see the erector set frame on the table. I’ve tabbed and keyed everything to make them interlocking, they’re dropping together like a kids jig saw puzzle. That means all my geometry and angles I spent all that time working out with Solidworks and suspension analyzer will be duplicated in real life in a repeatable fashion.

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/02/s-6.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/02/l-6.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/02/s-7.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/02/l-7.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/02/s-8.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/02/l-8.jpg)

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/02/s-9.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/02/l-9.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/02/s-10.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/02/l-10.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/02/s-11.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/02/l-11.jpg)

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/02/s-13.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/02/l-13.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/02/s-14.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/02/l-14.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/02/s-15.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/02/l-15.jpg)

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/02/s-16.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/02/l-16.jpg)

rat_rod_russell

08-28-2009, 11:30 PM

A little side by side for the guys who can't see it.

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/solid_drawings/s-28.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/solid_drawings/l-28.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/02/s-12.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/02/l-12.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/solid_drawings/s-29.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/solid_drawings/l-29.jpg)

Brake and Clutch Pedals, Wilwood is now making this freaking cute little master cylinder with optional remote tank. Cool thing is this little bad boy has a 1.125” bore. So a pair for the brake system and one for the clutch, I’m aiming for a dual disk clutch and so the slave will need a little more fluid to disengage both clutches. I’m making a model to make designing the pedal system easier.

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/brake_pedal/s-1.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/brake_pedal/l-1.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/brake_pedal/s-2.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/brake_pedal/l-2.jpg)

Turbos, Turbos, Turbos!
I can’t say enough good things about the guys at STS Turbos right now. Rick spent a day or 2 on the phone with me working out the specifics of the turbo and the design and placing of parts for optimal power. Next he went through the trouble to sort out there universal kit and pull out all the parts we didn’t need for our build and adjusted the price accordingly then specked out and supplied a cam specifically for our build. We’ll be pushing 6-7 PSI on 9.4:1 for the race making an easy 500+ HP. Considering I’m ditching the electronic cutouts and mufflers the only weight gain to the truck is the inner cooler and the compressed air piping. I’ll get more info up when our system gets here.

-Russell

GMracer

08-29-2009, 05:23 AM

WOW:wow:

wedged

08-29-2009, 10:05 AM

rat_rod_russell

08-30-2009, 09:46 AM

wow. that's got to be a pain to keep all of it from warping. I'm still a little confused about where the turbos will mount ?

Russell, I know you said you can't share the CAD drawings, but.... would it be possible to get the co-ordinates for the upper & lower arm mounting points ? or maybe just simplified ? c-c numbers for the mounting points for the upper & lower arms X,Y,Z ? I realize you've tweaked the measurements from factory- I'm not asking for your secret recipe, the OEM number would be just fine. I've been trying to find this info, with no luck. At some point in the future i'd like to build a C4 front end for my dakota and I am trying to collect data for that project. My last resort will be to jig from a clip cut from the junkyard if needed.

Warping is no problem with all the keys and slots. Just don't get torch happy and it's really very easy.

I don't have the C4 stuff in the computer. When I took over and started designing the frames I decided to go all C5/C6 because of the improved geometry and availability of parts. So I don't have the factory suspension for the C4 in the computer. I have the cradle references but not the knuckles and A frames.

I figure I got my 57 Sedan and HRJ C4 Chassis with only .75 degrees static negative camber pulling off 1.2G corner exits on street tires at the road course that the C4 configuration on that chassis was good enough for that one so I didn't bother reinventing that one for the sake of a few tenths. Everything else from here on out is another story.

Thanks
Russell

rat_rod_russell

09-07-2009, 12:14 PM

Quick update, frame quarters are almost done, the main section of the frame is knocked out on the computer, cut up waiting the quarters and the transmission is a little hung up due to some national back orders with T56 parts. Take a look at the photos, I’m going back to the work.

-Russell

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/solid_drawings/s-30.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/solid_drawings/l-30.jpg)

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/solid_drawings/s-31.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/solid_drawings/l-31.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/solid_drawings/s-32.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/solid_drawings/l-32.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/solid_drawings/s-33.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/solid_drawings/l-33.jpg)

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/solid_drawings/s-36.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/solid_drawings/l-36.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/solid_drawings/s-35.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/solid_drawings/l-35.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/solid_drawings/s-34.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/solid_drawings/l-34.jpg)

rat_rod_russell

09-07-2009, 12:14 PM

Remember its whats on the inside that counts. This will keep our frame from deflecting. Use structure not mass, keep it light.

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/03/s-1.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/03/l-1.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/03/s-2.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/03/l-2.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/03/s-3.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/03/l-3.jpg)

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/03/s-4.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/03/l-4.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/03/s-5.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/03/l-5.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/03/s-7.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/03/l-7.jpg)

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/03/s-8.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/03/l-8.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/03/s-9.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/03/l-9.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/03/s-10.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/03/l-10.jpg)

Bowtieracing

09-07-2009, 01:13 PM

Totally awsome build Russell!!!

syborg tt

09-07-2009, 08:23 PM

Pretty Freaking Awesome !!!

fleetus macmullitz

09-07-2009, 08:45 PM

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/solid_drawings/s-30.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/solid_drawings/l-30.jpg)

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/solid_drawings/s-31.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/solid_drawings/l-31.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/solid_drawings/s-32.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/solid_drawings/l-32.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/solid_drawings/s-33.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/solid_drawings/l-33.jpg)

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/solid_drawings/s-36.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/solid_drawings/l-36.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/solid_drawings/s-35.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/solid_drawings/l-35.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/solid_drawings/s-34.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/solid_drawings/l-34.jpg)

I like seeing the designs you've come up with.

Russell, as an infant did you have a rattle in your crib, or did your parents move you right up to an etch-a-sketch? :unibrow:

rat_rod_russell

09-11-2009, 01:21 PM

I like seeing the designs you've come up with.

Russell, as an infant did you have a rattle in your crib, or did your parents move you right up to an etch-a-sketch? :unibrow:

The Etch-a-sketch is for noobs! I went to the big box of crayons. See this is what happens when you LET your kids draw on the walls.

WE HAVE A FRAME. I'm off to finish putting it together.

-Russell

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/04/s-1.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/04/l-1.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/04/s-5.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/04/l-5.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/04/s-9.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/04/l-9.jpg)

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/04/s-12.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/04/l-12.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/04/s-13.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/04/l-13.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/04/s-14.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/04/l-14.jpg)

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/04/s-15.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/04/l-15.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/04/s-16.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/04/l-16.jpg)

fleetus macmullitz

09-11-2009, 01:33 PM

Congrats Russell on how well its turning out. :thumbsup:

Kendall Burleson

09-11-2009, 03:43 PM

Good Job the frame is killer who clean up :thumbsup:

rat_rod_russell

09-11-2009, 06:29 PM

Good Job the frame is killer who clean up :thumbsup:

Billy :rofl:

Me, I wanted to take a few without all the clutter from the fab work.

A quick bit of machine work to the upper A arm bolt holes. I decided that the 10mm's weren't quite as snug as we wanted them so we took them out to 7/16's just for good measure. Uppers and lower on the front and lower A frames on the back, This puppy will be on tires tomorrow with a cab on it.

MawHaHaHa (evil laugh)

-R^3

rat_rod_russell

09-12-2009, 08:58 PM

A quick update for everyone.

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/05/s-1.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/05/l-1.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/05/s-2.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/05/l-2.jpg)

-Russell

tones2SS

09-13-2009, 04:52 PM

Looking good Russel.:thumbsup:

syborg tt

09-13-2009, 09:21 PM

niceeeeeeeee

rat_rod_russell

09-14-2009, 10:05 PM

Busy few days, some rack mockups, measurements and then back to the jig. Billy’s been getting a bunch of the little parts all knocked out and I’ve been doing paper work along with the last programming for parts off to the laser.

Fenders, wheels and fire wall, and seat checks and mockups

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/05/s-3.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/05/l-3.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/05/s-4.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/05/l-4.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/05/s-5.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/05/l-5.jpg)

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/05/s-6.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/05/l-6.jpg)http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/05/s-7.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/05/l-7.jpg)http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/05/s-8.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/05/l-8.jpg)

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/05/s-9.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/05/l-9.jpg)

Billy Painted the Semi Gloss Metallic Charcoal Gray on the wheels race wheels and the street wheel.

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/05/s-18.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/05/l-18.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/05/s-19.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/05/l-19.jpg)

Decided we didn't like the fire wall, really we hadn't changed it sine the move from auto the manual transmission so we needed to re adjust the position for the driver.

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/05/s-16.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/05/l-16.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/05/s-17.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/05/l-17.jpg)

rat_rod_russell

09-14-2009, 10:06 PM

Back onto the jig table for driveline angling, exhaust and sheet metal work.

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/05/s-10.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/05/l-10.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/05/s-11.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/05/l-11.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/05/s-12.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/05/l-12.jpg)

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/05/s-13.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/05/l-13.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/05/s-14.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/05/l-14.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/05/s-15.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/05/l-15.jpg)

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/05/s-20.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/05/l-20.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/05/s-21.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/05/l-21.jpg)

On the Jig with the body

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/05/s-22.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/05/l-22.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/05/s-23jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/05/l-23.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/05/s-24.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/05/l-24.jpg)

Put the wheels on it for further clearances checking and just to see what she looks like

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/05/s-25.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/05/l-25.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/05/s-26jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/05/l-26.jpg)

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/05/s-27.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/05/l-27.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/05/s-28.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/05/l-28.jpg)

We’ll get the motor in tomorrow and go from there
-Russell

ironworks

09-15-2009, 07:52 AM

Lookin Good, Reminds me of few years ago.

rat_rod_russell

09-15-2009, 07:57 AM

Lookin Good, Reminds me of few years ago.

We still on for that race? your truck vs mine? :yes:

-Russell

tones2SS

09-15-2009, 09:14 AM

Very nice Russel. Should look awesome when complete!:thumbsup:

wedged

09-19-2009, 01:43 PM

:cheers: this really is an awesome build.

rat_rod_russell

09-19-2009, 11:58 PM

Thanks guys

To the work at hand

Turbos are here. I’ve only started into the kit but after I read the instruction book I had only one question. Not bad considering this is our first turbo car. We’ll be rigging the waste gate to the side pipes and the fact that these are quality turbos with remote gates. Braded lines and a plethora of fittings to make sure you have what you need for your build. Two large Oil pumps and their wiring system with integrated pressure sensors and alarms so if you have any issues with the pumps failing you’ll be alerted before you destroy something.

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/turbos/01/s-1.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/turbos/01/l-1.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/turbos/01/s-2.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/turbos/01/l-2.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/turbos/01/s-3.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/turbos/01/l-3.jpg)

Front end went back on the truck and we started fabing the inner fenders and new firewall. We did have one minor miss hap with the steering column location but we’ve fixed it getting the column into the proper location to the driver. Even though it’s not adjustable the seat is on a slide and the pedals will be adjustable so as to get them all dialed into the driver. Headers are tight but thanks to the guys at American Racing Headers we got a set of the corvette headers and modified them to fit. I, like an idiot, had them coated first due to our time restriction, bad idea. I had to draw up my own master cylinder for the brake pedal model but not too much trouble. We’ve got the miss alignment of the pushrod down to less than 1 degree in both directions and after a quick mockup with a foam board model. Check out the exhaust going it and the rear diff adapter plate going together, this is the prototype, I know it ugly but we’ll dress is up on the mill later.

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/06/s-1.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/06/l-1.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/06/s-2.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/06/l-2.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/06/s-3.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/06/l-3.jpg)

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/06/s-4.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/06/l-4.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/06/s-5.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/06/l-5.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/06/s-6.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/06/l-6.jpg)

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/06/s-7.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/06/l-7.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/06/s-8.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/06/l-8.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/06/s-9.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/06/l-9.jpg)

rat_rod_russell

09-20-2009, 12:00 AM

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/06/s-10.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/06/l-10.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/06/s-11.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/06/l-11.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/06/s-12.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/06/l-12.jpg)

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/06/s-13.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/06/l-13.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/06/s-14.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/06/l-14.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/06/s-15.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/06/l-15.jpg)

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/06/s-16.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/06/l-16.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/06/s-17.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/frame/06/l-17.jpg)

-Russell

fleetus macmullitz

09-20-2009, 01:34 AM

Russell,

Very nice progress. :thumbsup:

Will you be incorporating aspects of this frame and suspension design into your new frames going forward?

Ketzer

09-20-2009, 08:15 AM

I hate to bring this up again but, ... you won't be getting much sleep in the next five weeks!

Incredible job!

Jeff-

rat_rod_russell

09-20-2009, 10:59 AM

Russell,

Very nice progress. :thumbsup:

Will you be incorporating aspects of this frame and suspension design into your new frames going forward?

Yes too a degree. This frame can be a little to no body modification frame for the 55-59 Chevy and GMC Trucks but we're taking it to the next level to show guys what they can do with some imagination and a sawzaw :rofl:

We will be doing other frames with this same style of internal structure later on for other cars.

And yes Skip, We'll probably put a C5 / C6 suspension under the Meteor.

-Russell

fleetus macmullitz

09-20-2009, 04:56 PM

And yes Skip, We'll probably put a C5 / C6 suspension under the Meteor. -Russell

No offense Russell, but I had forgotten about Meteor...

I've trained myself to only store info about '55's. :P

customcam

09-20-2009, 06:34 PM

What an awesome project you have here!
LOving it :thumbsup:

rat_rod_russell

09-23-2009, 01:25 PM

I forgot a few photos from the last update and I have a few more for this one.

Brake pedal rendering and the gas tank I forgot to post last time. You might also notice I got the LQ4 model for the truck instead of the LS7 better info for the firewall bits.

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/solid_drawings/01/s-1.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/solid_drawings/01/l-1.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/solid_drawings/01/s-2.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/solid_drawings/01/l-2.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/solid_drawings/01/s-3.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/solid_drawings/01/l-3.jpg)

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/brake_pedal/s-3.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/brake_pedal/l-3.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/brake_pedal/s-4.jpg
(http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/brake_pedal/l-4.jpg)

I’m working on the gas tank and brake pedal and found out the new bottle of gas was bad. That’s the main reason the welds on the brake pedal look so chunky. I might re-cut it but only time will tell.

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/01/s-4.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/01/l-4.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/01/s-5.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/01/l-5.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/01/s-6.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/01/l-6.jpg)

Jim’s working on the front grill inserts to make the cross hair mouth.

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/01/s-1.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/01/l-1.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/01/s-2.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/01/l-2.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/01/s-3.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/01/l-3.jpg)

And the inter coolers are here.

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/01/s-7.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/01/l-7.jpg)

Later
-Russell

rat_rod_russell

10-01-2009, 12:24 AM

WE ARE IN!!!!!!!

http://www.optimainvitational.com/PRIMARY_LOGO_650.jpg

40 of the fastest cars and We're the only truck on the list, and the oldest car too. Apparently I gave the right person a ride in the Black Widow. We were under consideration along with several hundred others but now its official.

you can go here to see more.
http://www.optimainvitational.com/

-Russell

fleetus macmullitz

10-01-2009, 02:10 AM

Congrats Russell and Hot Rod Jim's. :thumbsup:

tones2SS

10-01-2009, 09:41 AM

Congrats!!:cheers:

Kendall Burleson

10-01-2009, 03:18 PM

Congrats Cool Stuff:thumbsup:

rat_rod_russell

10-01-2009, 09:58 PM

congrats russell! get your room booked now!

Thanks, I've been ready for over a month, when I got my booth number.

Updates

People with big feet - (Darren, Brianne, and I, well everyone but Billy really) our feet wouldn't fit with the last pedal system so we rear arranged a few things and moved them under the floor.

Clutch
http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/02/s-2.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/02/l-2.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/02/s-3.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/02/l-3.jpg)

Brake
http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/02/s-4.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/02/l-4.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/02/s-5.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/02/l-5.jpg)

Intercooler caps are done and out to the cutter with the brake parts

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/02/s-1.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/02/l-1.jpg)

TURBOS!!!!
Looking evil. and the tubing for the compressed air is in too. All mandrel bends in aluminum. It'll start 2.00" at the turbo after a few gentle 45 degree turns it goes up to 2.25" up over the front tire turns into 2.5" and then goes into the intercoolers.

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/02/s-6.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/02/l-6.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/02/s-7.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/02/l-7.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/02/s-8.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/02/l-8.jpg)

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/02/s-9.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/02/l-9.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/02/s-10.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/02/l-10.jpg)

Stack gauges are in. I've always used Autometer and with Stack getting bought out by them I think Autometer will learn something from Stack. WOW the are some of the best built gauges I've ever seen. Aluminum housings, electric steeper motors full 270 degree sweeps and the tack. Oh the tack, this is all built in, 2 programmable gauges, speedometer, odometer, and sequential shift light. Just wow, Huge thanks to Stack for these bad boys and the simple black and white fits the plane theme perfectly.

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/02/s-11.jpg
(http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/02/l-11.jpg)

Later
-Russell

tones2SS

10-02-2009, 07:53 AM

Looks great Russell!! Keep us posted.:thumbsup:

mexMan

10-02-2009, 08:34 PM

I'm not really sure about the remote turbos installation, doesn't it add a lot of lag, and weight of the plumbing? What pressure will the turbos run? It looks really cool and awesome Russell

rat_rod_russell

10-03-2009, 12:18 AM

I'm not really sure about the remote turbos installation, doesn't it add a lot of lag, and weight of the plumbing? What pressure will the turbos run? It looks really cool and awesome Russell

Not really since you've also taken almost all the back pressure off the exit side of the exhaust too. The STS cars I've been in exhibit no lag at all. The exhaust is lighter actually since we're not trying to make elaborate headers that flow and twist under the hood and we're not running mufflers. The weight of the mufflers is the same of the turbo, I think the turbo is lighter really. Inter coolers weight 5-8 pounds apace and all the aluminum tubing front to back might weight 15 pounds since its all .065 wall. Waste gates are 2-3 pounds each, blowoff is 4-5 pound, and the oil pump system is 10 pounds total I think.

To answer another question, about the rear end. We're developing this adapter to convert the Corvette transalxe into a stand alone diff. I'm showing the C5 adapter on a C6 Rear. I'm running the C5 in the truck but I don't have a C5 model. We'll be offering this shortly after SEMA and we've beaten the crap out of the prototype. It will have several different mounting positions and will take almost all the torque the normally destroys a C5 rear diff into the plate then straight into the frame.

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/02/s-12.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/02/l-12.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/02/s-13.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/02/l-13.jpg)

BTW Intercoolers are done

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/02/s-21.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/02/l-21.jpg)

Rear scoops, mud and water gard for the intake and access pannel for the rear fenders are going together nicely. We'll also be installing one of the power cells for the ISIS wiring system in here too.

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/02/s-14.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/02/l-14.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/02/s-15.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/02/l-15.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/02/s-16.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/02/l-16.jpg)

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/02/s-17.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/02/l-17.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/02/s-18.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/02/l-18.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/02/s-19.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/02/l-19.jpg)

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/02/s-20.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/02/l-20.jpg)

Also I need to point out two of the biggest helps we've had here at the shop. Terry the old guy upfront is a retired body guy. That means he hammers out dented metal and repairs it, not just makes you replace everything with new metal then bondos over everything. His skills have been in valuable here and we all take a lesson when he starts to talk, most of the time.

Kendall Burleson is in the background working on a brace for the inside of the cab. Kendall is the owner of Adrenaline Rides Garage in San Antonio and has been in the Automotive and Air Plane fabrication industries for over 30 years and brings his considerable sheetmetal, TIG and custom interior skills to our shop when he's not racking on his several projects. They convert J bodies (Cobalts and the like) into RWD Drag cars. We're in the processes of designing their first Pro-Touring style conversion with C6 Corvette suspension. With out tight time table Kendall has volunteered some of his time doing what he dose best, everything, lol.

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/02/s-24.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/02/l-24.jpg)

Garage Dog 65

10-05-2009, 04:50 PM

rat_rod_russell

10-07-2009, 03:56 PM

Hey Russell, You might check and see if someone has the C5/6 trans adapter already. I saw the unit in Good Guys Columbus 2 years in a row on a purple chassis of a vendor using the chassis to demo an exhaust cutout/bypass product. (maybe another member here remembers that product and/or vendor) They took a transmission tail shaft - reversed it and used it on the input of the Diff like you're showing in the solid works diagram above. It bolted right up with no cutting or mods. I have pics of it at home - but I'm in Miami this week.

I've been watching your Porsche build since your 4th or 5th post. I have a 69 911 I'm going to do if I don't sell it before SEMA. I haven't seen but one other adapter for the C5 differential and they wouldn't sell it. Plus I'm almost done.

I just got the input shaft in now to make the press on sleeve for the clip ring and bearing face and we're done.

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/03/s-5.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/03/l-5.jpg)

LET THERE BE BOOST!!!!

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/03/s-1.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/03/l-1.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/03/s-2.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/03/l-2.jpg)

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/03/s-3.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/03/l-3.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/03/s-4.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/03/l-4.jpg)

-Russell

tones2SS

10-07-2009, 04:44 PM

Nice work guys!!!:thumbsup:

syborg tt

10-14-2009, 09:09 PM

great work - pictures are awesome.

rat_rod_russell

10-15-2009, 04:39 PM

thanks

PICS!!!!!

yes its yellow

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/04/s-1.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/04/l-1.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/04/s-2.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/04/l-2.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/04/s-3.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/04/l-3.jpg)

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/04/s-4.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/04/l-4.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/04/s-5.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/04/l-5.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/04/s-6.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/04/l-6.jpg)

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fleetus macmullitz

10-15-2009, 04:52 PM

thanks

PICS!!!!!

yes its yellow

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/04/s-2.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/04/l-2.jpg)

Why did you do this to us?! :wow:

:lol:

rat_rod_russell

10-15-2009, 05:42 PM

Why did you do this to us?! :wow:

:lol:

I sell frames and chassis, whats the first thing I want you to notice. And besides, it looks real good. :unibrow:

-Russell

ironworks

10-15-2009, 07:53 PM

WOW LOOKS REALLY COOL. But are you really going to race that chassis in just over 3 weeks from today? Wow if you make it I will buy you a beer of Root beer if you not 21.

Also take lots and lots of pics of the rolling chassis, you will be glad you did. I did studio shots or mine and it was worth it.

Good luck, and good luck without sleep.

Rodger

Steve1968LS2

10-15-2009, 08:00 PM

That frame is killer but man, you have a TON of work to do in the next two weeks!!! :wow:

You driving the truck in the challenge? Man, I can't wait to see this thing done! :thumbsup:

tones2SS

10-16-2009, 10:00 AM

WOW!!
That sure will stand out! Great job guys.:thumbsup: :cheers:

nvr2fst

10-18-2009, 07:52 AM

Nice project, always love anything incorporated with the corvette suspension.
Looks like you know your way around solid works pretty good. Good luck on your deadline.
Dave

rat_rod_russell

10-20-2009, 07:37 PM

Lets just say I love pressure, and monster. :thumbsup:

Huge power outage took out a bunch of the lights in the shop and put us to a stand still for a few hours, that was fun.

Cross that with a problem on our transmission (thanks McLeod, for the headache) that's why the cabs not on, the transmission needs a few parts mocked up with the body off and right now, the transmission is still in pieces on the bench. I think Mark at Forte Parts has a shifter mover that will work for our project. Will keep posted here.

A few quickly taken photos, no, we're not normally this messy and I'll get Brianne to take some good ones before we drop the cab on.

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/05/s-1.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/05/l-1.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/05/s-3.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/05/l-3.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/05/s-4.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/05/l-4.jpg)

The Vintage Air Pulley system. This thing is awesome. It came with a water pump and the lower balancer.
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Exhaust all warped up to keep heat in the exhaust

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Cab and other parts all painted up waiting on the chassis.

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/05/s-7.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/05/l-7.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/05/s-8.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/05/l-8.jpg)

New production diff adapter, I almost have a price on these for you guys.
http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/05/s-5.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/05/l-5.jpg)

I need to get back over here. Brianne, our driver, works for us part time doing oddball jobs, photography and abusing my cars so I can watch them break and fix the weak points. You might be able to tell which photos she took and the ones I took considering she's has a degree in photography.

-Russell

GMracer

10-20-2009, 07:51 PM

I LOVE the frame, the design behind it is phenomenal

Steve1968LS2

10-20-2009, 08:25 PM

Brianne, our driver, works for us part time doing oddball jobs, photography and abusing my cars so I can watch them break and fix the weak points.

-Russell

Cool deal, so she'll be doing the driving on the road course?

Can't wait to see the truck all done!

rat_rod_russell

10-20-2009, 08:40 PM

Cool deal, so she'll be doing the driving on the road course?

Can't wait to see the truck all done!

Ya, I had seen her at an autocross and she asked me about doing photos and the car (32 ford roadster at the time). She comes by one weekend just beaming. I ask whats up and see tells me she was out doing some 24 second runs. There was no autocross that weekend, of that I was sure because I'd have been there so I assume she went to the drag strip. I see an old beater Subaru out side and ask "on what, a Uni cycle?" she said "no, a NOS'd out, carbon fiber, Busa and I was at the Texas Mile"

Guys 24 means 200+ miles an hour. :hail: :hail: That's right this chick did 200 on a bike in under a mile from a standing start, she's nuts. Probably why she's fast. :rofl:

After that I let her drive the 57 then she started taking photos for us and driving so I could work on the cars and chassis in the time frame we had available to us. She'll be working our shop booth at SEMA.

-Russell

Steve1968LS2

10-20-2009, 09:00 PM

Is she hot? :lol:

Just kidding.. Does she have a brother named Kevin that use to autocross?

That fast on a bike is nuts..

Kendall Burleson

10-20-2009, 09:07 PM

Steve1968LS2

10-20-2009, 09:22 PM

I'm 6'5 mius 4.5" and I have to look up to her She has race very thing from BMX to bike at pike peak. she is good looking girl that has no problem put a fender on you if you are are in her way.:lol: :lol:

Cool deal.. although I don't know if she really qualifies as a "builder".. ;)

http://www.statesman.com/life/content/life/stories/other/2009/09/13/0913Racer.html

Solo National champion huh?

rat_rod_russell

10-20-2009, 09:25 PM

Cool deal.. although I don't know if she really qualifies as a "builder".. ;)

http://www.statesman.com/life/content/life/stories/other/2009/09/13/0913Racer.html

Solo National champion huh?

She TIG welds for us, (and has several parts for the truck) that counts as a odd ball work in a fab shop. And besides she's only been racing for 3-4 years.

And besides who's setting your car up Steve, :lol: I could have asked Lance Adams or Bill Dollahite to drive, that would've been funny.

-Russell

Kendall Burleson

10-20-2009, 09:31 PM

Cool deal.. although I don't know if she really qualifies as a "builder".. ;)

http://www.statesman.com/life/content/life/stories/other/2009/09/13/0913Racer.html

Solo National champion huh?

If she work for the company that Qualifies her for the driving job because it is a shop build.That why she will be working the booth at SEMA

Steve1968LS2

10-20-2009, 09:34 PM

She TIG welds for us, (and has several parts for the truck) that counts as a odd ball work in a fab shop. And besides she's only been racing for 3-4 years.

And besides who's setting your car up Steve, :lol: I could have asked Lance Adams or Bill Dollahite to drive, that would've been funny.

-Russell

Hey, I don't have a problem with it.. chill out.. It's all part of the fun.. really :) -- I just thought her name sounded familar after you mentioned it and the Texas mile.. not a lot of ladies in this sport.

My suspension builder is setting up my car.. why? I'm going up there in a couple of days to put the darn thing back together.. I need to stop doing the "SEMA thrash".. this is the third year and it get's tiring.

If I could repaint Penny I would steal the paint job from your truck.. ever since I was a kid I've love the whole flying tigers deal.

Steve1968LS2

10-20-2009, 09:35 PM

If she work for the company that Qualifies her for the driving job because it is a shop build.That why she will be working the booth at SEMA

Hey, I'm not the "optima police".. jeesh.. you can hire Dale Jr if you want.. none of my business.

Hug? :cheers:

Kendall Burleson

10-20-2009, 09:45 PM

Hey, I'm not the "optima police".. jeesh.. you can hire Dale Jr if you want.. none of my business.

Hug? :cheers:

Steve you are the king and I'm trying to buy a Penny shirt. I love to have a little fun with my Hero went I grow up I want to be as cool as you are.Oh the car is cool too.:bow: :bow: :bow:

Thomo5150

10-20-2009, 10:03 PM

Hi Russell, luv the truck. Can I ask with the the C6 suspension what did you set your castor angles for the hubs both front and rear?

Cheers Tim

Steve1968LS2

10-20-2009, 10:06 PM

Steve you are the king and I'm trying to buy a Penny shirt. I love to have a little fun with my Hero went I grow up I want to be as cool as you are.Oh the car is cool too.:bow: :bow: :bow:

Sarcasm? Really?

I didn't mean to strike a nerve.. hmm, I guess this is where you find people's true character. Thanks for sharing! :)

Kendall Burleson

10-20-2009, 10:30 PM

Sarcasm? Really?

I didn't mean to strike a nerve.. hmm, I guess this is where you find people's true character. Thanks for sharing! :)

The car people from TEXAS still love you Steve! I'll paid for the beer at SEMA do you have to be 21 to buy BEER in vegas?:yes: :yes: :yes:

Steve1968LS2

10-20-2009, 10:33 PM

The car people from TEXAS still love you Steve! I'll paid for the beer at SEMA do you have to be 21 to buy BEER in vegas?:yes: :yes: :yes:

I think at 18 your good for both Strippers AND Beer.. :cheers:

So the beer sounds like a fine idea. :)

But seriously.. that post of yours.. that stuff just get's old. Maybe if you guys win than people can hate one you for no other reason than you won and they are pissed about it.

That's a odd reward for working your ass off and trying to do something for the hobby, huh?

rat_rod_russell

10-20-2009, 10:49 PM

Will you both shut up.

Sorry Steve, I was being sarcastic and we all know how hard that is to convey here on the internet. Kendall, go to sleep I need to see you here in the morning. We arn't running yet so unless we plan to push this thing faster than the penny we're screwed.

Thanks Steve, Ben did a hell of a job taking my buddy's knapkin drawing and making in uber cool. We're going to do it all as a sticker so I can play with the design a little in the future if I feel like it.

Hi Russell, luv the truck. Can I ask with the the C6 suspension what did you set your castor angles for the hubs both front and rear?

Cheers Tim

Tim

I keep the 7 degrees caster on the front and the the 8.5 degrees of king pin angle using the .25 cast in camber. I'll probably run no more than 1.5 degrees of negative camber on the front when its all said and done. Now I just need to make sure my models will work in real life. :lol:

-Russell

Steve1968LS2

10-20-2009, 10:54 PM

Will you both shut up.

Sorry Steve, I was being sarcastic and we all know how hard that is to convey here on the internet. Kendall, go to sleep I need to see you here in the morning. We arn't running yet so unless we plan to push this thing faster than the penny we're screwed.

Thanks Steve, Ben did a hell of a job taking my buddy's knapkin drawing and making in uber cool. We're going to do it all as a sticker so I can play with the design a little in the future if I feel like it.

-Russell

Damn.. I need people to draw stuff like that for me on a napkin.. absolutly my favorite paint scheme ever.. who doesn't love a giant painted mouth with f'ing sharp teeth?!?!? lol

Hell, anyone can win.. I didn't plan on winning last year either.. just run hard and hope the racing gods are with you.

Sleep? what the hell are you talking about.. you have a truck to finish!

Kendall Burleson

10-20-2009, 10:59 PM

I think at 18 your good for both Strippers AND Beer.. :cheers:

So the beer sounds like a fine idea. :)

But seriously.. that post of yours.. that stuff just get's old. Maybe if you guys win than people can hate one you for no other reason than you won and they are pissed about it.

That's a odd reward for working your ass off and trying to do something for the hobby, huh?

You are so Right on that. I have been helping on the truck since AUG welding Fab work what every it take to get it done. at 120 mile a day round trip to help get the Truck done.We are work our ass off on this truck it was done because that kid is thinking outside of the box and I think with the concept and design it was somthing I had to be part of. Went he show me the concept of the frame I told him let do it. The race came up later as I wanted to do Pike Peak and the Texas Mile but Russell love the road racing and autocross.The guys at HRJ throw every thing they had at it(money ect and a lot of red bull I should have bought stock in that stuff becaues they are walking around the shop with Red Bull IVs:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Thomo5150

10-20-2009, 11:08 PM

rat_rod_russell

10-20-2009, 11:14 PM

Thanks Kendall and Steve for the kind words.

Thanks Russell I was going to set my front castor at 6.5. Not sure how much difference there is between the Corvette C5 and C6 settings. Is your rack location close to factory spec's to stop any bump steer.

Cheers Tim

C5 and C6 are the same geometrically. I built a custom steering arm that allowed me to lower the rack, use the narrower inside pivots of the C4 corvette rack and pinion and gives me a bump steer adjustment and I'm only seeing .05 degrees of ackerman misalignment all the way though 30 degrees of steering pivot.

-R^3

Steve1968LS2

10-20-2009, 11:17 PM

Thanks Russell I was going to set my front castor at 6.5. Not sure how much difference there is between the Corvette C5 and C6 settings. Is your rack location close to factory spec's to stop any bump steer.

Cheers Tim

On my C6 setup I run about 6.5 degrees of caster, but 7 is a good number too.. it's also going to vary depending on a host of factors. The best way is to try a number, test the car and then adjust until you find the best setting.

I also have 1.5 degrees of negative camber.. but I have sperical bearings so the zero deflection means I always have 1.5 degrees.

With rubber some guys dial in more neg camber to compensate for the deflection.

In regards to bump steer, a quick way to check is to make sure your tie rods are dead parralel to your lower control arms.

Thomo5150

10-20-2009, 11:26 PM

Cheers Steve excellent advice, Chassis is now on the Chassis table, time to sit back and wait of my ZO6 C5 rolling chassis.:( . Coming from Cleveland pick a part. Gus and the guys there offer a good old fashion service.

Cheers Tim

Kendall Burleson

10-21-2009, 12:06 AM

I try to reply but you box was full.

cwylie

10-21-2009, 06:57 AM

I was on my way to the coast last week from Austin and tried to find the shop becuase I wanted to see this truck in person but I had no such luck..

rat_rod_russell

10-21-2009, 07:55 AM

I was on my way to the coast last week from Austin and tried to find the shop becuase I wanted to see this truck in person but I had no such luck..

that's because the shop was hiding behind the weeds and you couldn't see the rest of the cars in the drive. LOL. were in Luling on 183 next to the Propane place. Just look for there truck we're next door and share a parking lot.

-Russell

Steve1968LS2

10-21-2009, 08:47 AM

I try to reply but you box was full.

Fixed it.. I empty it and then it fills back up again.. unlike my bank account..

rat_rod_russell

10-22-2009, 08:38 PM

Sorry guys if I don't pay too much attention to question now I'm a little preoccupied.

-Russell

Update

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Steve1968LS2

10-22-2009, 09:12 PM

Wow.. good progress.. but will it be ready to run and race in a week? yikes!

I thought we were "under the gun"...

Good luck there...

fleetus macmullitz

10-22-2009, 09:44 PM

A very colorful life you seem to be leading Russell.:unibrow:

Congrats on all the progress. :thumbsup:

10-22-2009, 10:32 PM

I like those mufflers :thumbsup:

Can't wait to see it run at the optima event.

rat_rod_russell

10-23-2009, 12:59 AM

Brianne just took these for you all. I wish she was here earlier to do the frame too, win some loose some, right now we're too tight on time to be picky, lol.

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-Russell

tones2SS

10-23-2009, 09:34 AM

That is looking sweet!!!
Keep up the good work guys.:thumbsup:

GregWeld

10-23-2009, 10:13 AM

Love this build and can't wait to see it blasting cones at Optima!

rat_rod_russell

10-25-2009, 04:10 PM

fuel system problem, wrong injectors and we're having to rebuild some of our wiring harness. Plan is to get a safe tune on monday so we can break in the transmission, differential, and turbos then tuesday spin it up and get the serious tune so we can get some track time in on Thursday before we leave.

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-Russell

70rs

10-25-2009, 04:29 PM

That truck is just awesome!! Good luck with the problems. Looking forward to seeing it in some track video.:cheers:

tones2SS

10-26-2009, 08:18 AM

Awesome build guys.
Now, is the reason you went with STS turbos because there would be no room in the engine bay or just because you like them better? THANKS!:thumbsup: :cheers:

Steve1968LS2

10-27-2009, 11:54 PM

Update? How's it going?

Thomo5150

10-28-2009, 03:05 AM

Looking good Russell, love it

ccracin

11-03-2009, 10:18 AM

Well, Did you make it?

fleetus macmullitz

11-03-2009, 10:31 AM

Well, Did you make it?

X2

We pester you because we care! :unibrow:

GvEman

11-03-2009, 11:09 AM

An other awesome build! I love the theme! That turbo setup looks awesome.

Steve1968LS2

11-03-2009, 11:16 AM

Well, Did you make it?

I don't think they did since I heard they were trying to substitute a '39 Truck at the Challenge.

I hope it's there though.. I've been dying to see it in person since it have my favorite paint scheme ever...

GHOSTDANCER

11-03-2009, 11:25 AM

http://special-reports.pickuptrucks.com/2009/11/the-most-awesome-truck-at-sema-hot-rod-jims-pt57.html :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

ccracin

11-03-2009, 11:51 AM

Yeah, doesn't look done in those photos. That is a shame, they were busting it trying to get it done. Looking good though. :thumbsup:

Kendall Burleson

11-03-2009, 05:11 PM

The truck is at SEMA and I'm leave Texas about 6pm tonight now to Take them race tires And odd and ends .Guy keep your findercross that we make the race.:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

73GMCSprint

11-07-2009, 12:47 AM

The truck wasn't quite done (well, done enough to race) as of this morning, but it looked close. They were sure busting their butts to get it done. Hope it's ready!

http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/4821/img14251024x768.th.jpg (http://img265.imageshack.us/i/img14251024x768.jpg/)

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fleetus macmullitz

11-11-2009, 09:17 AM

Russell will post here shortly. He's had some technical problems accessing the site.

rat_rod_russell

11-11-2009, 02:11 PM

We did make it, we pushed the truck into the SEMA Show Monday for setup and drove it our on Friday after finding and fixing wiring problems.

We put down 567.13 RWHP and 506.27 RWTQ at 4:00 A.M. Saturday morning on the Dyno at Wicked HP with the Help of Chris. When we got to the track we were still locking down a few little things and needed to finish bleeding the brakes. We were given an extension at Tech but ended up missing our deadline when the front wheels with the race tires high centered on the calipers. I had ordered them because I was told they would clear the Z06 Calipers but such had been our luck for the last 2 weeks (Turns out that wheel guy is out of business now, go figure). I'm working on a full report sorting photos and a video. Sorry, but for now you'll have to live with these.

After we missed our dead line we had all been awake for 36+ hours and not have had any good sleep in weeks we all wanted to just go home at that point. We we're told we will be aloud to compete next year because of our efforts this year. The wiring harness was the major last stab that slowed us down. 2 bad sensors wired so we didn't get it running before we left and ended up spending 30+ hours finding and fixing a $700.00 harness. I will not release their name because they did make the harness for me in 3 days and for that I am grateful and by my research they've never had this problem before but I can say I'll never buy another wiring harness from those guys again after the indignant response I got when asking about the problem.

-Russell

http://blogs.cars.com/.a/6a00d83451b3c669e20120a6a4c33c970c-800wi
http://special-reports.pickuptrucks.com/2009/11/the-most-awesome-truck-at-sema-hot-rod-jims-pt57.html

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2466/4087105951_bfcd30bb03_o.jpg

rat_rod_russell

11-17-2009, 02:50 AM

Hot Rod Jim’s PT-57 SEMA 09 Story

So here’s the story covering the why and what happened starting after our last post of photos on the 22nd.

Monday when you last heard from us it was Thursday October, 22. We started installing the motor bits, intake, pulleys, and fuel system then we noticed a little problem. Sunday night, most of the wiring was down. We were finishing up the fuel system, but the fuel rail wasn’t going down all the way to the intake. It soon became obvious that the 42 pound injectors are LS1 injectors not the short body truck ones we needed for the LQ4 intake. Our goal was to be on the dyno Monday afternoon. We spent most of Monday morning looking for a quick fix on the injectors, because we wanted to be on the dyno that night but nothing turned up. We then spent Monday night modifying the system to accept the LS1 intake.

To get the LS1 intake to fit the turbo system we had to modify the intercooler piping. So all those parts had to come back off. The piping then started to hit the inner fenders so we then pulled the front end back off and get them re-shimmed. Wednesday night and we’re finally getting close to having all those mods knocked out. I hadn’t finished drawing up the shop banners for the booth yet so I was spending time working on that while Jim and Billy worked on the truck during the day. Then I would come in at night to run wiring. If you cam by the booth most likely you met Darren. A buddy of ours graduated top of his class from WyoTech and was the M Class tech at the BMW of Austin. He loves wiring so he came down 3 nights from Austin (1.5 hour drive) to help me work on the wiring and learn how to program the Stack ST700 Tack. I was still sorting the exact tuning setup since I’ve never programmed a Turbo car before and the EFI Live custom OS we were going to run was a little confusing to me still. Kendal was tearing up the TIG on the display parts and a few little odd ball parts for the truck we hadn’t built yet.

Wednesday more of the last minute parts showed up. We had a bad check from a customer so we ended up selling off one of our cars, the little black 32 roadster, that weekend to make up for it. Our missing pair of 12” Z06 Corvette wheels from FedEx, 2 Sets of Hoosiers followed the wheels in the UPS truck with a few other boxes of other little parts in tow. Getting those mounted took a little time. Turns out almost no one can mount a 12” wide wheel in this town but the guys at Expert Tire got it knocked out with 2 guys standing on top of the mounting machine jumping up and down on those 345/30/R19’s to get them on to the wheel. That was fun to watch.

Thursday saw more help and a few more headaches popped up. Kelly was back in the game full time busting on the truck helping to nut and bolt the chassis and he, the web coder, was actually getting some photos taken for me since I wasn’t even paying attention to it at that point. That day our truck and enclosed trailer both fell through due to unforeseen circumstances. So even if we got done we didn’t have a ride to the show. That’s when our buddy Jonathan pulled threw and hooked us up with his 1 ton Dodge for the trip. A long time friend of Kendall’s, Don with another shop in San Antonio, lent us his trailer since it had brakes where our normal shop trailer didn’t making the trip one step easier.

Friday the troops began to rally. Our plan we to roll out Saturday night and most everyone riding out was at the shop that day planning for a long night with some rest in the truck. Looking at what needed to be done, we recalculated when the absolute latest we could leave. Our new deadline now Sunday at 6 A.M. with the advantage of 2 hours in time zones and an additional hour because of the time change we had a few things going for us but the details of our to do list grew just as quickly. Darren was back in the shop now with all his stuff loaded up into the haul truck Kelly’s stuff on top of his, I hadn’t even looked at my bag yet, and I live at the shop in an apartment/ office. Kelly was plugging leaks in our turbos oil lines, Darren was still wiring getting all the grounds in place, Billy was locking down the turbo air lines and I was getting ready to start the truck for the first time.

Saturday we took the truck to have its front graphic mounted. Jim and Kendall both worked on the shop display, Billy was securing the advertising banners and cards while Kelly finished up some revision to the website. When I got back Jonathan and his son Charlie had both shown up to give us a hand getting the truck road worthy. Brianne our driver and her Boyfriend Jason both showed up even thought it was Brianne’s Birthday. We worked on driver ergonomics and pedal adjustment while I was trying to figure out something on the ECM. I played with it and played with it but I couldn’t get the pedal to show any signal, and the MAP wasn’t showing any voltage either. Watch our SEMA video to see what happened then. Saturday around midnight or Sunday morning later the truck still wouldn’t start. It would fire off then die. We decided that’s it and had to load it up. We couldn’t do anymore then, but we could plan to work on it at the show. So we did just that and started loading up the tools we would need to get it knocked out with. Then had to make plans for a second truck for the extra support tools we would need for chassis tuning. Kendall and Jim would stay behind and come out with those tools later and the 4 of us would all leave that night to make the setup for SEMA.

A whole lot of driving later its 7:00 A.M. and we’re in Vegas. We got checked into our hotel, it was supposed to be 2 rooms but they didn’t have it registered in there system so we only got one room and two beds for all 4 of us, yay. We got to the show, waded through all the crazy and finally got to our booth to set it up. Afterwards we all walked back to the hotel around 5ish and crashed.

The week was us all working off and on in the booth during the show then hanging around at night for 1-2 hours so we could spread out and pin out our harness looking for the reason the TPS and the MAP sensors weren’t showing any signal to the laptop. A short somewhere in the system but we reran both sensors back to the ECM and Wednesday night we got it to fire off and idle. I was still a little unsure of the tune so I went over to the EFI Live booth and talked to the engineers and programmers who make the software. Awesome guys all of them then Jesse Bubb asks me if I want him to write a base tune to make it easier. With my enthusiastic “hell yes” and he snapped open one of their laptops and started writing a base tune from a blank custom OS file. He asking me 2-3 questions and filled out almost 50 blank maps off the top of his head in 10 minutes then knocked it down to 3 tables for me to tune all based off the simple WO2 data. Rick Squires of Squires Turbos Systems offered me plenty of info and showed me a few things on his laptop for me to watch out for when tuning the remote turbos on the truck.

Friday, show was over and the mad dash out of the building started. We made it out around 7:00 P.M. then we were off to the tuners. Thursday night the guys with the Optima Battery Race hadn’t given up on us and helped us find a local Dyno plus a friendly shop owner who was going to be there all night anyway. Cody Chapman of Wicked HP was working on a Pro Mod Head and gave us a section of his shop to thrash in that night. We plugged holes, bled brakes, and worked out the tune for some safe power at the track.

We started on the dyno with 75 RWHP. The right bank coil pack had fried the fuse, swapped that and ran out all the fuel from the system then we started putting down 350-390 RWHP but we still weren’t seeing any boost. I had my buddies put their hands over the waste gate dump and could they feel hot air leaking out. Turns out in our rush we forgot to put in the sealing rings that seated against the plunger. We were all discussing about settling for dead turbos and run on all motor. Then the Cody pipes up “You want me to turn one?” Sure enough he chucks up a chuck of aluminum and went to town. An hour later we’re dropping the waste gates back in with their sealing rings. Crank it up and boom 5 PSI and we know the passenger’s side was still leaking a little. 3 pulls later and we have 567.13 RWHP and 506 RWTQ. By that time it was 4:00 A.M. and we still had to get out of the hotel and off to the race track.

clill

11-17-2009, 07:26 AM

Damn.......:hail:

rat_rod_russell

11-17-2009, 11:07 AM

I was sure everyone saw us rolling in during the drivers meeting and madly unloading the car. At that point our team had all been awake for the last 36 Hours and counting. Paul and his father were bleeding the last of the brakes (multi pistons hold air like a mother) and we were trying to plug the hole on the diff where the corvette VSS sensor goes but we forgot it back at home. One tech extension, two tech extension we we’re having some trouble with the rear swaybar and the brake light switch never got wired for some reason. Finally Tyler walks up for the last time, Brianne is strapped in and getting ready to take off and then the final straw. The front Z06 wheels high centered on the Z06 brakes and locked up the front wheels, that’s when Tyler with the tech team helped make it plane to me, not this year.

Tyler, a big thank you to you sir for putting my foolish, sleep deprived, rampaging butt in check, I would have surely broken something vital or hurt someone the way we were going. At that point I really wasn’t in the right mind to make that call. With so much money, time, and some blood in a few places into getting there I didn’t want to give up. You were right a few parking lot drives weren’t nearly enough to be comfortable with it. I know personally Jason would have killed me if something happened to Brianne while driving my truck too then I really wouldn’t have made it out next year. We didn’t have the chassis dialed out the way it needed to be and with the interior in its serious disarray. Even if we won every event the show points would have smacked us back to the bottom. With the experience behind me I have to look at the bright side, I have all year and 2 fresh sets of Hoosiers to start. I’m already working on a revised frame for next year to be swapped sometime this spring to shave a little weight.

-Russell

rat_rod_russell

11-18-2009, 04:52 PM

I know this is what you all really want.

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rat_rod_russell

11-18-2009, 05:00 PM

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http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/09/s-17.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/09/l-17.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/09/s-18.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/09/l-18.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/09/s-19.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/09/l-19.jpg)

-Russell

camcojb

11-18-2009, 05:00 PM

fleetus macmullitz

11-18-2009, 10:28 PM

Russell,

I don't know how much you've driven the truck enough to form a solid n opinion of how it performs, but if you have, what are your overall impressions?

Looks like it should be a lot of fun.

The yellow frame really grew on me. I like the use of red also.

If it was me I think I'd like the wheels a dark grey color.

rat_rod_russell

11-18-2009, 11:34 PM

cool project Russell, nice meeting you at SEMA. Watch out for those brass 90 degree fittings coming off the gas tank, they are quite restrictive compared to the mandrel bent full flow 90's the AN companies offer. Not good to restrict fuel on a twin turbo setup, plus any restriction is tough on the electric fuel pump(s). May not cause you an issue, but if you notice fuel pressure dropping with the boost turned up check those first.

Then again, I'm not positive that's the fuel tanks, so if not................... never mind. :lol: Maybe they're oil tanks for the turbos, not using engine oil to feed?

Jody

Jody

Same here I just wish I had more time to chat. When your chasing a problem it take 10x more effort than when you get to talk about it in retro speck.

The fuel 90's on the bottom are the cross over for the gas to get from the left side to the right side when your driving. By keeping the gas split up it reduces the centrifugal force generated by your gas hitting the side of the tank. This way your fuel's weight will have an impact on both sides of your center line and offer less migration of the CG when driving. Since all your suspension reacts in relation to the CG this will help make for a smoother transitions when driving..... in theory, lol.

Cool thing about the turbos being in the back when we were on the dyno the turbos were staying right around 400 degrees. The EGT was in the 800-1000 (i have lots of spark to find) depending on where we were in the RPM's and the ITA temps were only +15 to +20 over ambient because of all the cooling happening on the air from front to back. And that was on a dyno so we didn't have any air moving around the car offering more cooling to the system.

Russell,

I don't know how much you've driven the truck enough to form a solid n opinion of how it performs, but if you have, what are your overall impressions?

Looks like it should be a lot of fun.

The yellow frame really grew on me. I like the use of red also.

If it was me I think I'd like the wheels a dark grey color.

I'm crazy happy with the Pfadt shocks. I've got about 40 miles on it now shaking down the chassis and chasing loose nuts and bolts and getting all my sensors working and calibrated. I've been driving with then on 4 and 3 and the ride is really smooth. They go up to 16 and the front and rear have there own valve patterns. Steering is a little tough right now but that's because our power steering pump was leaking and we were trying to find the culprit. Haven't got to throw it around yet. I'm still getting back to work on my customers projects. Everything stopped here a month before SEMA including the cash flow, lol. So that takes a little priority right now but I have an auto cross the first weekend of December I want to be at, hehe.

The yellow rocks !!!!! :unibrow: Like you said, it goes with the green really well. I've got some black I think I'm going to mix with the Gray I have left and see what comes out.

I'm working on the video so look for it tomorrow.

-Russell

rat_rod_russell

11-19-2009, 12:15 AM

or now

Video
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Hot-Rod-Jims-PT57-SEMA_720229.htm

-Russell

fleetus macmullitz

11-19-2009, 07:00 AM

or now

Video
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Hot-Rod-Jims-PT57-SEMA_720229.htm

-Russell

I liked the vid.

Sounds good too.

tones2SS

11-19-2009, 09:47 AM

Very cool project. I love the colors!:thumbsup: :cheers:
How does that STS turbo work out for you guys?

rat_rod_russell

11-22-2009, 08:33 PM

Thanks all, you should here it go down the street. Turbos, cam and blow off. Its a symphony of speed.

we're working out the little tuning issues and I'm learning the STACK ST700 Tack, this this is nuts with all its features but I think I might be able to get it to cook dinner for me too, lol. Progressive Sequential Shift Lights, maw hahaha.

Here's my interview with Hub TV, sorry I look so hunched, Amber must have been 5 foot even and the camera was right there so I had to come down a little to make up for it.

http://www.hubgarage.com/hubtv/channels/18/videos/382

-Russell

GregWeld

11-22-2009, 08:43 PM

Nice! Now we all know somebody that's FAMOUS!! LOL

Great project - as you already know!

:thumbsup:

Kendall Burleson

11-23-2009, 08:17 AM

Nice! Now we all know somebody that's FAMOUS!! LOL

Great project - as you already know!

:thumbsup: I want to get his autograph!:willy: :willy: :willy:

rat_rod_russell

11-24-2009, 11:14 PM

I want to get his autograph!:willy: :willy: :willy:

ya under that Pay To The Order Of line, lol.

Guys Kendall rocks. He's one of the main reasons that we even made it to SEMA this year and he's the one who gave us the push we needed to finally get up and go to the big show. Keep and eye out for his 56 Chevy we'll be banging on ASAP.

We're going to have the PT-57 at the Houston AutoRama if anyone's going. We'll be back in the Swap meet section with some of our shops other goodies

-Russell

Kendall Burleson

11-25-2009, 07:58 AM

I'll be there .:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

rat_rod_russell

11-26-2009, 01:26 AM

we're in the back corner for anyone looking for us.

-R^3

rat_rod_russell

12-06-2009, 02:05 AM

LOLOLOLOL, A buddy of mine turned me into Silent Bob with two swords a SAW and no hat and the sad thing is that I feel like putting on weight to pull off the look. Then there's Kendall, he's in good shape for 60, and he's got a bazooka. My buddy Tyler Richlen stopped by and saw the truck, then he emailed this to me a few days later.

Click it for the large version.

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/media/cartoons/tyler_r_PT-57/01-m.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/media/cartoons/tyler_r_PT-57/01-l.jpg)

-Russell

fleetus macmullitz

12-06-2009, 02:13 AM

I like your marketing strategy, tapping into the soldier of fortune pro-touring market.

:D

GregWeld

12-06-2009, 10:26 AM

fleetus macmullitz

12-06-2009, 11:20 AM

Yep! I like it Skip!

Too funny -- having met Kendall -- he didn't strike me as the bazooka toting type. It would be a good marketing 'ploy' though. Now we'll have to get Charleys 55 Merlin motored monster together with the PT-57 so they can "tour" together! Maybe we can get the government to send them on the USO tours! LOL

Greg,

In the illustration Russell seems to have had an angry extreme makeover by 'Dorf' (aka Tim Conway).:_paranoid

PT-57 and Charley's Merlin would be quite a powerful pair.:thumbsup:

Kendall Burleson

12-06-2009, 11:37 AM

That funny:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

rat_rod_russell

12-06-2009, 12:39 PM

Greg,

In the illustration Russell seems to have had an angry extreme makeover by 'Dorf' (aka Tim Conway).:_paranoid

PT-57 and Charley's Merlin would be quite a powerful pair.:thumbsup:

lol, we need our LSX short block and upgraded turbos before she'd feel safe sitting next to that monster.

-Russell

fleetus macmullitz

12-06-2009, 02:01 PM

lol, we need our LSX short block and upgraded turbos before she'd feel safe sitting next to that monster.

-Russell

That is true, Grasshopper.

:D

syborg tt

12-06-2009, 10:28 PM

that's awesome

Adding it to my screensaver folder

rat_rod_russell

12-13-2009, 12:56 AM

hehe, Got to drive it sometime right.

-Russell

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/action/PT-57_mud_01.jpg

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/action/PT-57_mud_02.jpg

Kendall Burleson

12-13-2009, 04:57 AM

It was build to burn Rubber:willy: :willy: :willy:

GHOSTDANCER

01-08-2010, 09:13 AM

http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2010/01/shark-bite-we-drive-the-amazing-project-pt57-hot-rod-pickup.html :cheers:

fleetus macmullitz

01-08-2010, 09:45 AM

http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2010/01/shark-bite-we-drive-the-amazing-project-pt57-hot-rod-pickup.html :cheers:

Thanks for posting that link, I enjoyed the article.

Congrats Russell and all contributors to the build. :thumbsup:

rat_rod_russell

01-28-2010, 11:50 PM

Sorry for my long absence been busy catching up the customers projects and getting sick for almost 2 full weeks doing nothing but sleeping and now I'm trying to recover my strength. Nothing like knowing a month ago I just picked that rear end up and put it on the table, now I can't budge it.

For those who missed it there was a little article on the PT-57, lots of its wrong but hay who's counting.
http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2010/01/shark-bite-we-drive-the-amazing-project-pt57-hot-rod-pickup.html

For the fans, I just got around to taking these today so you all can see how she's come out so far. I'm still playing with the HDR's.

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/photo_shoot/01/s-1.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/photo_shoot/01/l-1.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/photo_shoot/01/s-2.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/photo_shoot/01/l-2.jpg)

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/photo_shoot/01/s-3.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/photo_shoot/01/l-3.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/photo_shoot/01/s-4.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/photo_shoot/01/l-4.jpg)

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/photo_shoot/01/s-5.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/photo_shoot/01/l-5.jpg)

I'm still experimenting with differential mounts and brackets so I haven't gotten a chance to put it on the track yet. I'm also going to do a major renovation of the firewall, steering column, steering linkage, and pedal system.

The steering column ended up a little lower than I would have liked so we'll be moving it up to better clear my huge size 13 feet and I'm going to give a little extra because I have 2 friends / customers who wear 16's. I want a little more leverage on the brakes, I can just barely lock up the street tires the way she sits now and that mean's I have some grip I'll loose out on with the Slicks so a little more leverage on that end and a little different pedal design too.

The fire wall is going to get a different look to make it more of a factory design instead of the overly common slick everything. I want to make the motor compartment look and feel more like the inside of a bomber / fighter than a tricked out show car. We're also going to ditch the inter coolers since they only show very little cooling compared to the intake air temp. On the dyno the ITA was only 5+ ambient and that was no air moving across the rest of the mandrill tubing under the car. The pyrometer on the end caps was only showing 8-10 degrees drop across the IC’s and they had a fan blowing on them directly so they go and with it some weight too.

Later
-Russell

-Freak-

01-29-2010, 05:02 AM

tones2SS

01-29-2010, 09:25 AM

Awesome pics. :thumbsup:
That thing looks mean. I love it, good job!!:cheers:

fleetus macmullitz

01-29-2010, 09:56 AM

rat_rod_russell

02-14-2010, 07:07 PM

O' my. This is a unique and extremely well thought out build.
It kind of makes me wish i was building a truck instead.

Do you have higher resolution versions of the HDR pics?
They are to small for my monitor resolution to look good as wallpaper.

:thumbsup: :hail:

clicking opens them up to 1024x768 bet if you'll tell me what size you want it I'll post it up.

Now my question

A guy came by the shop today and told me he saw the Pt-57 in a magazine. I have no clue what he's talking about. Has anyone else seen it or did I just waste 3-4 hours looking for it?

Thanks
-Russell

Porterbuilt

02-15-2010, 07:41 PM

clicking opens them up to 1024x768 bet if you'll tell me what size you want it I'll post it up.

Now my question

A guy came by the shop today and told me he saw the Pt-57 in a magazine. I have no clue what he's talking about. Has anyone else seen it or did I just waste 3-4 hours looking for it?

Thanks
-Russell

Last months Street Trucks "SEMA coverage".

rat_rod_russell

02-22-2010, 02:09 AM

Seriously thanks for that, I ordered a copy I hope to see it this week and I scan it in and post whats there.

But before that I've got some bad news

I BROKE IT AGAIN!!!!

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/diff/01/s-2.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/diff/01/l-2.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/diff/01/s-3.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/diff/01/l-3.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/diff/01/s-7.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/diff/01/l-7.jpg)

This time I killed the two bolts holding the dif plate into the car. They were grade 8 1/2" and they both snapped after 2-3 days of long hard burn outs on the Pilots playing with various rear shock settings. Then the next day, I'm leaving a parking lot and bam. The rear end is jumping up and down. With the front two bolts snapped the rear rigid mount I built as a replacement quickly with scrap from around the shop (during breakage #3 when I snapped the OE Corvette mount) this was the only thing holding the diff in the car and the CV's kept it centered so I could get stopped.

Now I'm sure everyone is wondering why there's a strap on the diff, that's how I got home, with a ratchet strap holding the diff down to the frame and X'd to keep it centered. I was about 20 miles from the shop and it was one of those days where everyone was gone along with my truck and trailer. So I had to drive it home, very, very slowly.

So on to the real fix now and what will hopefully be the production mount. I kept patching the old system and prototype adapter to just see what, and in what order, things would break when we take away the torque tube and transmission from the system. Obviously the first thing that needs to be addressed is the lack of support that would keep the differential from rotating around the rear axle center line. Just like the diff on a live axle car the IRS diff is forced up from the pinion yoke rotating backwards around the rear axle center line during positive acceleration. So instead of a rear lower mount (like a stock C5) I'm going to give the diff a mount up top so it will be pulling down against this new mount instead of trying to crush it. Then on the front I'm going to keep the two bolts and bushing into the adapter plate from the bottom for support during negative acceleration while the clutch is engaging the motor and the transmission is in gear. The diff at that point is hammered into the frame or in this case into a pair of rubber bushings. But I'm going to add two lateral bolts on top of the diff plate to give these two bolts more mechanical advantage over the differential case and keep the nose down under positive and negative acceleration. We will now have a grand total of 6 bolts (4x 1/2" and 5x 5/8's) holding the diff in place and set up in a way that different bolts will all be loaded a little differently and spread the force out. Take a look at the pretty picture soldworks made for me, lol you can also see the new lighter plate with a little Hot Rod Jim bling,

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/diff/01/s-1.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/diff/01/l-1.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/diff/01/s-4.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/diff/01/l-4.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/diff/01/s-5.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/diff/01/l-5.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/diff/01/s-6.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/diff/01/l-6.jpg)

What’s this mean about the truck, she goes on the lift. The bed comes off, most of the rear suspension, gas tank, turbo’s, exhaust, several lines and more. And we get to play setup on the new diff mounts. I'm also going to fix up several other things that have been peeving me and add in some quick disconnects on the wiring so when I get the new frame banged out the body swap will be quick and painless. So let the fun begin.

-Russell

GregWeld

02-22-2010, 08:37 AM

rat_rod_russell

02-27-2010, 01:35 AM

I had the three bolts holding the steering box to the frame on my 1969 Mercedes 280SL.... as it turns out -- they were simply over torqued when the car was restored.... They sheared just like your bolts - and had that "crystalized" look at the shear line.

After the second breakage I thought I had it stacked nicely with rubber on both sided of the frame. So it went bolt, washer, rubber, frame, rubber, diff adapter from bottom to top. But when I got up under the rear end you could see that the bolts both snapped right where the threads ended in the adapter. So now we'll have 6 bolts holding it in instead of just the 4.

-R^3

bob442

03-09-2010, 01:10 PM

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/diff/01/s-1.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/diff/01/l-1.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/diff/01/s-4.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/diff/01/l-4.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/diff/01/s-5.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/diff/01/l-5.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/diff/01/s-6.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/diff/01/l-6.jpg)

Hey Russell, one of the members directed me to your project, i'm very interested in the C5/6 pinion adaptor, as i want to swap in a C5 IRS in my F body, i would greatly love your help and a guess price of the adaptor, if you could PM i'd love to chat with you.

Oh ya, Your truck is a piece...of Art! the chassis looked so appealing in raw metal. shoulda just cleared it ;) but yellow works awesome too!

Bob

rat_rod_russell

03-11-2010, 02:44 AM

Hey Russell, one of the members directed me to your project, i'm very interested in the C5/6 pinion adaptor, as i want to swap in a C5 IRS in my F body, i would greatly love your help and a guess price of the adaptor, if you could PM i'd love to chat with you.

Oh ya, Your truck is a piece...of Art! the chassis looked so appealing in raw metal. shoulda just cleared it ;) but yellow works awesome too!

Bob

Bob

Thanks for the kind words, I'll get that PM out asap. I won't have a price for the diff adapter until I'm sure there not going to break in this setup.

But for now

BIG NEWS, ITS DRIFT TIME
What better racing type to make an attempt to break my new differential combo. We'll be in Houston on March 28th at Grand Sport Speedway sliding around with the best of them and of course I'll have as much video as I can get. You can read more about it here.

http://fabricatedmotorsports.com/forum/index.php?topic=1413.0

-R^3

rat_rod_russell

04-03-2010, 04:17 AM

So we didn't make the drifting event. I started fixing thing, one thing led to another and we ended up not making it. Sunday morning at 3:30 My buddy Kelly and I sat down, made a list of what we needed to do and at the very least we needed 10 more hours worth of work. Had we not been awake for 20+ hours at that point we would have keep banging on it. I didn't want a repeat of Optima where I get the car together then bring it back and have to rip into it again to fix something that was half assed of overlooked because we rushed it.

Prototype parts are one thing but I found pinched lines from the oil back on the turbo, the shaft pivot had been installed with a grade 2 bolt and had twisted, I see 10-15 pounds worth of steal on the front that made up a last minuet radiator support and gussets that can all go, and I want to get my inner fender in finally.

So onto the rear end. And the mods I was working on for the truck to make it a better street car and way better for drifting.

-Steering Arms
The truck only had about 46 degrees of turn in, good for smooth course racing but it was a little tough in town making tight corners. So I made up a new set of steering arms that moved the rack back .5" inches increasing the steering angle to 57 degrees.

The old arm is shown here on top with the new arm on bottom, notice that the lower plate on the new are is also clearances to allow the outer tie rod room to move up into and clear the steering under real hard cornering.

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/10/s-1.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/10/l-1.jpg)

The pile of inter cooler just that came out.

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/10/s-3.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/10/l-3.jpg)

For the diff and the race I decided I really wanted to get in there and see what things were doing, so you can see almost everything that ended coming off.

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/10/s-2.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/10/l-2.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/10/s-4.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/10/l-4.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/10/s-5.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/10/l-5.jpg)

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/10/s-6.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/10/l-6.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/10/s-7.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/10/l-7.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/10/s-8.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/10/l-8.jpg)

rat_rod_russell

04-03-2010, 04:18 AM

-New Diff Mount

The old diff coming out weighted 92 lbs. You can see the new rear mount on the diff. The old system tried to use the OE corvette mounts and added a few, that failed honorably. So this is what I've come up with to fix it. The rear plate is the big difference but I've moved the front upper mounts too and upgraded to 5/8' hardware. The rear we drilled out the threads since all but 1 of the rear plate holes go through the aluminum and captured the bolt on the other side to ensure a much better hold to the case.

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/10/s-9.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/10/l-9.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/10/s-10.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/10/l-10.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/10/s-11.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/10/l-11.jpg)

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/10/s-12.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/10/l-12.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/10/s-13.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/10/l-13.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/10/s-14.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/10/l-14.jpg)

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/10/s-15.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/10/l-15.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/10/s-16.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/10/l-16.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/10/s-17.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/10/l-17.jpg)

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/10/s-18.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/10/l-18.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/10/s-19.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/57_truck/update/10/l-19.jpg)

-Whats next

I'm going to get the turbos coated and mod the exhaust a little. Some of the wrap was getting ripped up on bottom with all the gravel in the area.

Gas tank mod, it had a little leak, lets just say I got a little full of my self with the tabs and slots and made an awesomely complicated section that I couldn't weld all to well and now it leaks, a lot.

Wiring, I'm re arranging some of the ISIS boxes for ease of access and changing some of the wiring to more secured locations.

Brake cooling ducts, with the inner coolers out of the way it'll be easy now the back is getting a neat trick too.

Finish out the roll cage

Later
-Russell

fleetus macmullitz

04-03-2010, 09:05 AM

Great idea Russell posting as many quality pics as possible.

Looking good, I especially like the closeup of that fatt Pfadt. :unibrow:

rat_rod_russell

04-20-2011, 03:35 PM

So you might ask what’s been going on with the PT-57 and why has Russell stopped posting information. We’ll, we’re still in business after this last year. Its been interesting and that’s taken up too much of my time just in the day to day operations. We’ve gotten more models of the C6 parts and I’ve spent a large amount of time turning them into manageable files groups we’re I can adjust the suspension geometry in the computer depending on what car we’re working on. Lots of time consuming BS for a 2 man shop but it’s all necessary and we’re still in business. I think that saying a lot these days.

On to the truck, we were going to go to the Dallas Goodguys back in October but we had some issues and couldn’t make it in the end, that cost us a serious chuck of time. Part of that was in some new sheetmetal we wanted on the car. A local shop offered up a good price to bang out some sheetmetal work on the Fire wall of the PT-57 to help with her weight loss program. Let’s just say it didn’t work out to well, pictures are worth a thousand words so they say.

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2010.11.29/s-1.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2010.11.29/l-1.jpg)

So my father (the retired metal art professor from Texas State) decided he wanted a whack at it finally. We cut out the old crap and removed lots of .250” steel flat stock that was welded in to the truck and used to form the sheetmetal around. Let’s just say I think with the new fire wall and floor tunnel, the truck is probably 20-30 Lbs lighter, and that’s being realistic. We mounted up the Vintage Air Gen 2 AC, tossed in some speakers, and decided to go to a hydro boost master cylinder on the fire wall due to packaging restrictions under the trucks floor and for the ease of daily driving.

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2010.11.29/s-2.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2010.11.29/l-2.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2010.11.29/s-3.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2010.11.29/l-3.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2010.11.29/s-4.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2010.11.29/l-4.jpg)

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2010.11.29/s-5.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2010.11.29/l-5.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2010.11.29/s-6.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2010.11.29/l-6.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2010.11.29/s-7.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2010.11.29/l-7.jpg)

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2010.11.29/s-8.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2010.11.29/l-8.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2010.11.29/s-9.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2010.11.29/l-9.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2010.11.29/s-10.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2010.11.29/l-10.jpg)

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2010.11.29/s-11.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2010.11.29/l-11.jpg)

Design ideas

So we had some big problems with the PT-57’s front frame design and its interference with the surrounding systems. The headers and steering were the biggest problems. The headers were so close to the oil filter that in the 2000 miles I put on the truck during testing I burned up 4 oil filters. The headers were so close that is caused the internals of the filter to break. To me driving I suddenly saw the oil pressure drop from 45PSI to almost 20, scared the **** out of me the first time. I feel luck that the starter didn’t burn up, the headers were just as close on that side. Next because of the frame and the headers we didn’t have enough room for a steering linkage I would normally approve of. So we needed more room for that as well. Rack and pinion choice also needed to be reevaluated. We went with a C4 corvette rack on the original design for the availability but with GM cutting back the racks are getting harder and harder to find. I also want 32 degrees of turn in radius for the truck so I can do some more drifting so we turn to Flaming River for that one. We will be using the Flaming River FR40001 with its 6” travel over the 5” travel corvette rack. The rack doesn’t have the clearance issues with the Power Steering lines anymore and we can move the motor down a little further getting the CG down a little more.

The rear of the PT-57’s frame also needs some re working for the new differential adapter and better turbo integration. The new differential adapter mounts from the top and the current frame didn’t have enough bracing to hold the differential with its short lever-less structure so more tubing needed to be woven in to make the functional support. I love the rear turbos but I need to take the complexity of the boost tubing down a notch so I’m also going to integrate some of the boost tubing into the structure of the frame so we don’t have to fish it through and around the differential and CV Shafts

Finally after some problems with the powder coating (and the final straw with the yellow V4 Frame) We built our own powder coating system again so this time we can do all the little bits and make sure they won’t crack off this time. We can also take out oven up to 800F so I plan to add ceramic (or titanium) coating to the headers and complete exhaust of the PT-57 for even better turbo response (I don’t know it that’s even possible.)

rat_rod_russell

04-20-2011, 03:36 PM

These are some of my rejected frame designs from the last year.

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2010.11.29/s-12.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2010.11.29/l-12.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2010.11.29/s-13.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2010.11.29/l-13.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2010.11.29/s-14.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2010.11.29/l-14.jpg)

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2010.11.29/s-15.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2010.11.29/l-15.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2010.11.29/s-16.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2010.11.29/l-16.jpg)

And finally after 4 rejected frames (I think) I’ve finally found the right combination to make the front really work out, take a look and let me know what you think.

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2011.04.20/s-1.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2011.04.20/l-1.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2011.04.20/s-2.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2011.04.20/l-2.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2011.04.20/s-3.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2011.04.20/l-3.jpg)

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2011.04.20/s-4.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2011.04.20/l-4.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2011.04.20/s-5.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2011.04.20/l-5.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2011.04.20/s-6.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2011.04.20/l-6.jpg)

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2011.04.20/s-7.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2011.04.20/l-7.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2011.04.20/s-8.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2011.04.20/l-8.jpg)

2011 Should be a fun year for the PT-57 and I hope she will fully evolve into the PT nightmare I want her to be.
Thanks
Russell Alexander
Hot Rod Jim’s
http://www.hotrodjim.com

fleetus macmullitz

04-20-2011, 04:23 PM

You know your pic happy audience here. :thumbsup:

Good to see all the improvements to 'da beast.

Look forward to seeing how it all comes together when you get to flog it again.

rat_rod_russell

05-21-2011, 10:25 AM

Yes, yes I do Skip, So I rejected that last frame due to a lack of turn in clearance but I think I've solved that problem Behold V5.4 and I'm almost done with the front stub, Check out the update

Update
2011/05/21

So I’m almost done with the new frame front section. Right now it looks to be right at 101.26 lbs. I’m looking for more room I can lighten the front up without losing structural integrity. I still need to add the rear shock brace and the sway bar hole so I look to pick up another 3-4 lbs there and I’m figuring on 2-3lbs of welds. The old one was just over 75lbs in the computer but I didn’t have all the parts drawn so probably closer to 85lbs with those parts and welding wire.

We now have a full 34 degrees of turning radius with 275/xx/Rxx Hoosiers. FYI Hoosiers have a serious edge on them making them almost .300” wider than a normal 275, So I can probably run 295 Front tire on this configuration and still turn around in 2 lanes without punching on it.

Flaming River Rack and Pinion, BIG thanks to those guys for sharing a part file for my design I drew one off the rack I had but there are too many compound angles and I screwed up a little here and there. We now have a much beefier rack up front to take the load and its only 2 lbs heavier than the C4 corvette rack I was using.

PFADT’s superior upper shock mount with their Coilover shocks. I love the OE Pfadt shocks I have already, the map is great and I plan on keeping them. But with some serious luck I’ll be able to get a set of these for my truck, http://www.pfadtracing.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/28_40/products_id/233?osCsid=535865b7342d79530c7606d692d513ba this will shave some weight from the suspension and most importantly the un sprung weight and I’ll be able to dial in my compression and rebound independently which will be important when I get back on the track.

I’m waiting on a visit from these guys http://www.absolutegeometries.com/ My plan is to scan several portions of the body into a 3D point cloud so I can drop it into the computer and overlay it with the truck to make sure we have clearance. Here are some video for you guys who have never seen one of these 3D scanners at work.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZKrwkzO6-w http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywFb-FnT8rA

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2011.05.21/s-1.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2011.05.21/l-1.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2011.05.21/s-2.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2011.05.21/l-2.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2011.05.21/s-3.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2011.05.21/l-3.jpg)

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2011.05.21/s-4.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2011.05.21/l-4.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2011.05.21/s-5.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2011.05.21/l-5.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2011.05.21/s-6.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2011.05.21/l-6.jpg)

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2011.05.21/s-7.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2011.05.21/l-7.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2011.05.21/s-8.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2011.05.21/l-8.jpg)

More coming soon
Later
-Russell

rat_rod_russell

07-10-2011, 08:57 PM

3D Scanning and getting the last parts to the puzzle

So after talking through several emails with Mike owner of Absolute Geometry (http://www.absolutegeometries.com) I figured out all I could without seeing and working with the parts myself. I spent several weeks of trying to get some free time and getting my schedule to align so I could head up to his place and talk in person with the equipment for demonstration. I also decided it would be a good idea to get some small parts I wanted scanned so I’d have something to play with in the computer to better understand the final product. The STS Turbos I want to really suck into the chassis and make them fit so I took one of the turbos and took it in 3 parts, the compressor housing, the turbin housing and the center section. This would give me 3 separate parts so I can clock the turbo in the computer for future chassis project and really fit the turbo in to the chassis, here are the results.

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2011.07.10/s-1.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2011.07.10/l-1.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2011.07.10/s-2.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2011.07.10/l-2.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2011.07.10/s-3.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2011.07.10/l-3.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2011.07.10/s-4.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2011.07.10/l-4.jpg)

The I’m having a little trouble making 3D surface files out of them but that’s just because my version of Solidworks doesn’t have the 3D scanning software and I’m forced to go to a friend’s place to use his premium copy so I haven’t had a lot of time to play with it. I also found out he can do the laser scan of the surface and then go in and get hard points with the FARO pointer. The points come in as a IGS file that will lay over the scan. The advantage to this is I don’t have to do any work to the scan to change it from a STL file into anything else. I have the hard points to measure from and I can see where something might interfere with the outside and change that.

So I showed this to a friend and so he asked me to supervise the scanning of his A-Body frame. After the scan it he called and decided he wants the back to Lay frame. So he asked if I could make a quick modification and make up some rear arches that will move the loop up 4 inches. It took 15 minutes with the scan data and everything’s to scale, take a look.

http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2011.07.10/s-5.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2011.07.10/l-5.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2011.07.10/s-6.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2011.07.10/l-6.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2011.07.10/s-7.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2011.07.10/l-7.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2011.07.10/s-8.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2011.07.10/l-8.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2011.07.10/s-9.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2011.07.10/l-9.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2011.07.10/s-10.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2011.07.10/l-10.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2011.07.10/s-11.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2011.07.10/l-11.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2011.07.10/s-12.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2011.07.10/l-12.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2011.07.10/s-13.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2011.07.10/l-13.jpg) http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2011.07.10/s-14.jpg (http://www.hotrodjim.com/immages/projects/in_progress/PT-57_v2/Update2011.07.10/l-14.jpg)

So my plan is twofold. One is to have the bottom of some of my other projects scanned so in the future I have all the body bracing, inner and outer fender, firewalls and core supports all in the computer before I start so I can build my frame and look to see if it will clear without having to spend a week moving the body, building a prototype moving everything around just to find out one section is .500 to far to the left and hitting a body brace or you can’t get the wheels off, the list goes on. The second part of the plan is to check against deviation from the design. When we’re done with the frame we’ll scan the first few out of the Jig to make sure they are all within speck and not warped all to hell. The best design is useless if you can reproduce it accurately.

More to come
-Russell