Schwartz project "Temptress"

[jeff s]

It's a 1965 Pontiac Tempest.
Body parts came in yesterday for project "Temptress". Our chassis is the new series 3 A body chassis with mandrel bent rails. Yes, it will be powered by a Schwartz built LS engine. We unloaded an LS3 and an LS7 off a truck yesterday, which one will we use? Turbo, SC, NA, decisions, decisions.
This autocross/track weapon will debut on Power Tour 09 and be driven by Aussie Grant Craft and Jeff Schwartz.


EDIT: The car has been on the road for a while now. You may have seen it at events across the US. If not, here are some videos!!!

GoPro POV videos:
http://youtu.be/HCQOFkB8-eU
http://youtu.be/W_VHveTmR14

On the track:
http://youtu.be/ZcF-ZZbEcdE?hd=1
http://youtu.be/cbTTufOFhjE
http://youtu.be/iWU_5DGMe04

[DOOM]

Jeff any renderings yet:question: This is one of my favorite Pontiacs. Can't wait to see this come together...

[two68s]

Sweet, it looks like the body is in pretty good shape! Why not build a Poncho motor to put in the Poncho? LS motors are great from a performance standpoint, but even my grandmother has one. Well, the customer is always right if this is a customer car. :bow:

[esm]

A 455ci Ls Motor Would Be Sick !! Good Luck On Build ---

[two68s]

A 455ci Ls Motor Would Be Sick !! Good Luck On Build ---

It would, especially if it was dressed to look like a Pontiac engine. Can you paint an aluminum block and heads? :cool:

[esm]

Not Sure Either About Painting The Aluminum Block --- Too Bad Not A Iron Lsx Block -----with Aluminum Heads ---

[OLDFLM]

Pontiac Baby Blue Valve Covers!

[tsgeno]

Jeff-

I heard a rumor that you were no longer associated with Schwartz Performance. It looks like the rumors are untrue?

Geno

[jeff s]

Here's the rendering.

[fleetus macmullitz]

A 'Wide-Track Excitement' dealer. :thumbsup:

Operators standing by...

Awesome combo of 1965 meets 2009!

[frankenstang]

I saw the new 3rd generation frame today. It's beefy as hell and should make this car a real autocross and road course killer.

The metal work is getting done right now. New floors in the trunk and the cabin. Plus the 'slight' mini-tub looks like GM did it!

He's hoping to get it done for Power Tour, so it's all hands on deck at this point. Thank God it's not getting 'painted' I'm sure this makes the stress easier to handle.

[jeff s]

Workin on this and other projects 7 days a week.
It'll be in black DP90 epxoy primer by the end of this week.
Look for updates and more pics here:
http://www.schwartzperformance.com/p...x?projectid=27

[speedfreak68]

I was just askin Dale how this car was comin yesterday. Looks like u guys are doin a good job. Better hurry powertour is comin up soon. :thumbsup:

[jeff s]

here's a couple more.
Thanks

[CptKlutz]

Here's the rendering.

My kinda thing! Nice! :thumbsup:
Wheels need to be proper steel Bassets though IMHO.

[frankenstang]

I think he has a set of steelies if needed.

I need to stop by at the shop and see how this thing is progressing.

Maybe we can follow Jeff and his crew to Madison for the 1st stop of Power Tour.

[jeff s]

My kinda thing! Nice! :thumbsup:
Wheels need to be proper steel Bassets though IMHO.

I need 18" wheels to clear the 14" brakes.

[jeff s]

heres some more pics

[frankenstang]

Are you still planning on Power Tour with this car? It looks like it's gonna be a mad thrash to get it done in 3 + weeks!!!

[crafty]

He sure is....the body is done, chassis is nearly back together and should be on the chassis in a couple of days.

Ive got my bags packed and ready to go!

[winfield69]

Jeff-

Your latest project is looking pretty good. It is going to be a mad thrash to finish it by the Power Tour. I won't be able to make it with the Camaro because I won't have time to finish my few outstanding items.

I was wondering if you could answer a couple questions about the chassis I purchased from you.

Do you have a picture and part number of the center section seals you are using these days in the 9" rear ends? Have you had any problems with them leaking?

What angle should the upper trailing arms on the rear axle be relative to horizontal? Mine seem to be at a relatively steep angle at normal ride height. Consequently, upward deflections in the rear axle cause the yoke to rotate down. Is this a problem?

Thanks in advance for the response.

[jeff s]

PM sent.

[jeff s]

Power Tour or Bust

[monza]

Dude your flying on this build, looking killer! Keep the pics rolling, have fun on the power tour.

[jeff s]

Yea, 269 hours on it in the last 2 weeks. Workin all this weekend.
The floor's coated with bedliner, so we can just wash it out.
Thanks

[crafty]

The floor's coated with bedliner, so we can just wash it out.

..... wash it out when the passenger craps their pants

[frankenstang]

Sooo.. which one of you 2 will be driving? 'Cause I know NOTHING scares Jeff. Well, other than being single and out on the town partying with you!!


I have heard some stories..... :)

[crafty]

My brother is flying up from OZ and Im flying over from Hong Kong and we're drivin' the Temptress. Jeff's taking the Ultima and Dale is taking his Transam.

[frankenstang]

I was planning on following you guys out of McHenry County and do the Madison to Racine leg.

There's no way I can get my t-5 trans quieted down in time ( I think) Plus, we haven't made any hotel reservations.

Hopefully Dale put in a larger oil cooler on the T/A. It runs hot at speed, he didn't have an O/D trans when we went to the Summer Nats 2 yrs ago.

[crafty]

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[awr68]

Now that's bad ass right there!! Nice work Jeff!! :thumbsup:

[crafty]

Its a hardcore ride. No soundproofing or trim at all, the only interior it has is seats. Lexan side windows, fibreglass bumpers etc....

My brother and I flew over a week before PT and were thrashing on it with the Schwartz guys. Just "finished" it on Sunday morning and took off to Racine.... basically the Power Tour was the shakedown for the car. Came back with a list if things to fix.

He took the car back to the shop Sunday night and I drove his Ultima from Racine to South Bend.... I used to think my 600hp Ultima was fast.... his is xxxxing insane!

I think the Twin Turbo bug has bitten... The Ultima has a Magnacharged LS2 so I now need to decide if the Ultima gets the TT and the Tempest gets the Magnacharged LS2... or the Ultima keeps the LS2 and the Tempest gets a TT. Im kinda thinking the Tempest with TT would be a blast.

Stay tuned folks.

[frankenstang]

Turbos on the Tempest would be waaaaayyyy easier. Plus, if you drove Jeff's car, you realize how hard it is to put the power down with such a light car.

With over 1000hp, the Pontiac would still corner well and the wheelbase and weight would help keep the tires from shredding every time you sneeze.

I have to get a ride in the Tempest, next time I visit. :)


Too bad the trans in my car was wasted, I really wanted to drive the 1st legs with you all.

[Viperlover]

I like the subtle engine bay and the red on the car looks great. :thumbsup:

[frankenstang]

Temptress got an engine swap after power tour. It's now a dry sump LS9 based block. I think Jeff used a LS7 clutch this time. Anyway, it's up at the Car Craft Summer Nationals and so far is in 1st place in the pre-81 class for real-street eliminator. I'm sure he'll post with more details later, way to go dude!!

[jeff s]

Updated pics

Car Craft RSE AX video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1YROd8OpXo
Oct 2009 Drag video 12.36 at 116.9 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgM406pOJxE
RTTH Sept 2009 AutoCross Video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBuHIaBTNOI

[jeff s]

Car Craft with RSE article came this week. Nice.
Both Schwartz cars, 1982 Trans Am and 1965 Tempest beat a modded LPE 2008 ZO6, with wing, suspension mods, etc. in the AX.

[jeff s]

Look for this car in an upcoming Tremec ad.

[jeff s]

Vendor Class winner at Charlotte Goodguys

[Schwartz Perf]

Turbos on the Tempest would be waaaaayyyy easier. Plus, if you drove Jeff's car, you realize how hard it is to put the power down with such a light car.

With over 1000hp, the Pontiac would still corner well and the wheelbase and weight would help keep the tires from shredding every time you sneeze.

I have to get a ride in the Tempest, next time I visit. :)


Yes, the Tempest is a great car and would be great with some FI. But, the Ultima GTR has no problem making use of its 1000hp. The body creates a substantial amount of downforce and the chassis/suspension aren't slouches. Unless you're building a drag car, probably nothing rwd is gonna hook 1000hp in 1st gear.

[jeff s]

Videos!


EDIT: The car has been on the road for a while now. You may have seen it at events across the US. If not, here are some videos!!!

GoPro POV videos:
http://youtu.be/HCQOFkB8-eU
http://youtu.be/W_VHveTmR14

On the track:
http://youtu.be/ZcF-ZZbEcdE?hd=1
http://youtu.be/cbTTufOFhjE
http://youtu.be/iWU_5DGMe04

[jeff s]

Photos!
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7082/7171189782_7068e07895_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/7171189782/)
Schwartz Performance 1965 Pontiac Tempest- original dash (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/7171189782/) by Schwartz Performance (http://www.flickr.com/people/schwartzperf/), on Flickr
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7076/7171192002_1ac5167115_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/7171192002/)
Schwartz Performance 1965 Pontiac Tempest- original front (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/7171192002/) by Schwartz Performance (http://www.flickr.com/people/schwartzperf/), on Flickr
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Schwartz Performance 1965 Pontiac Tempest- original rear (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/7171193344/) by Schwartz Performance (http://www.flickr.com/people/schwartzperf/), on Flickr
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5327/7171190068_202b0ed157_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/7171190068/)
Schwartz Performance 1965 Pontiac Tempest- disassembling body (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/7171190068/) by Schwartz Performance (http://www.flickr.com/people/schwartzperf/), on Flickr
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8165/7171190370_98f564058c_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/7171190370/)
Schwartz Performance 1965 Pontiac Tempest- stock chassis (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/7171190370/) by Schwartz Performance (http://www.flickr.com/people/schwartzperf/), on Flickr
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8009/7171194702_a1495440e5_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/7171194702/)
Schwartz Performance 1965 Pontiac Tempest- rear quarter patch (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/7171194702/) by Schwartz Performance (http://www.flickr.com/people/schwartzperf/), on Flickr
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7105/7171186732_047718af45_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/7171186732/)
Schwartz Performance 1965 Pontiac Tempest- floor replacement (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/7171186732/) by Schwartz Performance (http://www.flickr.com/people/schwartzperf/), on Flickr
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Schwartz Performance 1965 Pontiac Tempest- primed firewall (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/7171196078/) by Schwartz Performance (http://www.flickr.com/people/schwartzperf/), on Flickr
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8018/7171197826_78fd559ebd_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/7171197826/)
Schwartz Performance 1965 Pontiac Tempest- floor seam sealed (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/7171197826/) by Schwartz Performance (http://www.flickr.com/people/schwartzperf/), on Flickr
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7073/7171200964_f72834c407_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/7171200964/)
Schwartz Performance 1965 Pontiac Tempest- under floor painted (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/7171200964/) by Schwartz Performance (http://www.flickr.com/people/schwartzperf/), on Flickr
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7093/7171186296_a45f95650a_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/7171186296/)
Schwartz Performance 1965 Pontiac Tempest- firewall painted (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/7171186296/) by Schwartz Performance (http://www.flickr.com/people/schwartzperf/), on Flickr
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7080/7171189160_43d38fe74f_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/7171189160/)
Schwartz Performance 1965 Pontiac Tempest- mini tubbed (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/7171189160/) by Schwartz Performance (http://www.flickr.com/people/schwartzperf/), on Flickr
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8025/7171188778_843f9cab42_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/7171188778/)
Schwartz Performance 1965 Pontiac Tempest- left wheel tub (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/7171188778/) by Schwartz Performance (http://www.flickr.com/people/schwartzperf/), on Flickr
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7071/7171185462_816ff0a660_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/7171185462/)
Schwartz Performance 1965 Pontiac Tempest- engine ls3 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/7171185462/) by Schwartz Performance (http://www.flickr.com/people/schwartzperf/), on Flickr
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8145/7171204582_cdc75f70ff_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/7171204582/)
Schwartz Performance 1965 Pontiac Tempest- painting (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/7171204582/) by Schwartz Performance (http://www.flickr.com/people/schwartzperf/), on Flickr

[jeff s]

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8146/7171187494_1249195f84_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/7171187494/)
Schwartz Performance 1965 Pontiac Tempest- bare chassis powdercoated (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/7171187494/) by Schwartz Performance (http://www.flickr.com/people/schwartzperf/), on Flickr

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5457/7171187154_2b47d2bb7d_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/7171187154/)
Schwartz Performance 1965 Pontiac Tempest- painted on dolly (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/7171187154/) by Schwartz Performance (http://www.flickr.com/people/schwartzperf/), on Flickr
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5036/7171206130_fb00e91356_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/7171206130/)
Schwartz Performance 1965 Pontiac Tempest- rolling chassis (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/7171206130/) by Schwartz Performance (http://www.flickr.com/people/schwartzperf/), on Flickr
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7096/7171208034_9f15d042db_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/7171208034/)
Schwartz Performance 1965 Pontiac Tempest- widened wheel (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/7171208034/) by Schwartz Performance (http://www.flickr.com/people/schwartzperf/), on Flickr
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Schwartz Performance 1965 Pontiac Tempest- chassis with engine (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/7171209974/) by Schwartz Performance (http://www.flickr.com/people/schwartzperf/), on Flickr
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Schwartz Performance 1965 Pontiac Tempest- dropping body (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/7171188444/) by Schwartz Performance (http://www.flickr.com/people/schwartzperf/), on Flickr
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Schwartz Performance 1965 Pontiac Tempest- painted (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/7171184780/) by Schwartz Performance (http://www.flickr.com/people/schwartzperf/), on Flickr
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Schwartz Performance 1965 Pontiac Tempest- interior assembly (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/7171185680/) by Schwartz Performance (http://www.flickr.com/people/schwartzperf/), on Flickr
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Schwartz Performance 1965 Pontiac Tempest- assembly1 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/7171211700/) by Schwartz Performance (http://www.flickr.com/people/schwartzperf/), on Flickr
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Schwartz Performance 1965 Pontiac Tempest- magazine shoot1 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/7171190782/) by Schwartz Performance (http://www.flickr.com/people/schwartzperf/), on Flickr
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7223/7171213426_24f535e449_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/7171213426/)
Schwartz Performance 1965 Pontiac Tempest- model replica (http://www.flickr.com/photos/schwartzperf/7171213426/) by Schwartz Performance (http://www.flickr.com/people/schwartzperf/), on Flickr

[Schwartz Perf]

FYI

The Tempest won the Street Machine class at Good Guys Indy the other week.

And our '49 Chevy truck got 2nd in the truck class.

:beavis:

[coolwelder62]

Very Cool:thumbsup: .I really like your chassis's.Where do you get your rec.tube bent or do you bend it in house.