People please be CAREFUL!!

[tones2SS]

I had someone ring my doorbell today, roughly around 11:50 AM. Since I did not recognize the person nor the pick-up truck, I did not open the door but rather opened the upstairs window and asked what he wanted. He said he was selling frozen shrimp & fish and wanted to come in to show me the products and I noticed someone else sitting in the truck as well.
I told him I wasn't interested and asked him to leave. He continued to try to get me to open the door to see his products. I asked him to leave and shut the window on him while he was still speaking. Finally, he got the point.:unibrow:
Point being; there are WAY TOO MANY home invasions and break-ins these days, we all have to be extra careful. My cousin works with the police department and he has also told my aunt to do the same thing. Just want to pass the word along for everyone to be safe.:lateral:

[CraigMorrison]

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c241/blbitw/skrimps.jpg


Thanks for the heads up and I am glad things didn't turn bad, but I'm sorry I just kept thinking about this pic that's been floating around in the internet. :rofl:

[tones2SS]

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c241/blbitw/skrimps.jpg


Thanks for the heads up and I am glad things didn't turn bad, but I'm sorry I just kept thinking about this pic that's been floating around in the internet. :rofl:

LOL!!!
Yeah, we're entering a whole new world now that people are out of work and are in need of cash. Desperate times = desperate measures.:willy:

[Theresa]

Someone stopped me in my driveway a few months ago while was unloading groceries from my car. He said he was from Comcast (our local cable company) & walked toward my front door (I had my arm around grocery bags and my housekeys keys in my other hand).

He asked if I was a current subscriber to Comcast, and I made a joke. All I said was "if you're FROM Comcast, wouldn't you know if I HAD Comcast?" I was kidding, making small-talk. I didnt think for a second that he wasn't legit.

But he looked at me, looked around and backed up and walked back down the driveway and down the street.

I went inside the house and called Comcast and asked about door-to-door salespeople in my neighbrohood and they said they didn't have any scheduled & to call the police immediately.

I did... not sure if they got him.

Taught me to be a little bit less trusting of people. :(

[tones2SS]

Someone stopped me in my driveway a few months ago while was unloading groceries from my car. He said he was from Comcast (our local cable company) & walked toward my front door (I had my arm around grocery bags and my housekeys keys in my other hand).

He asked if I was a current subscriber to Comcast, and I made a joke. All I said was "if you're FROM Comcast, wouldn't you know if I HAD Comcast?" I was kidding, making small-talk. I didnt think for a second that he wasn't legit.

But he looked at me, looked around and backed up and walked back down the driveway and down the street.

I went inside the house and called Comcast and asked about door-to-door salespeople in my neighbrohood and they said they didn't have any scheduled & to call the police immediately.

I did... not sure if they got him.

Taught me to be a little bit less trusting of people. :(

Yeah, that's crazy.
You can't be too careful these days. It's a wild world out there.

[racebuicks]

Thats why I just took the classes to be able to legally carry a weapon. Too much BS going around, why be a victim.........

[ProTouring442]

Thats why I just took the classes to be able to legally carry a weapon. Too much BS going around, why be a victim.........

You must not be from the People's Republic of Maryland. Here, in order to get a permit to carry, you have to prove that you have been threatened and killed at least three times in the past five years, and only then if you pass a strict psychological test. Criminals, on the other hand, are allowed to carry at will.

Shiny Side Up!
Bill

[racebuicks]

You live in a Liberal state for sure. I on the other hand live in a gun clinging religious state....:lol:

[Hdesign]

When I was a kid and lived in a rural town, a couple teenage girls knocked on the door to ask to use the phone because of car trouble. My mom was home alone except for the dog. She used the excuse that she couldn't control the dog (an Akita). The discussion ended pretty quick when they saw him. We later found out that the girls were casing houses for boyfriends to break in. Our neighbor two houses down wasn't so lucky.

Best home security system there is. Works when you're home or not. If someone manages to get in the house grab something and leave with their lives, they earned it.

[Spiffav8]

The threat of being robbed is growing like crazy. New scams seem to be popping up every night. Here are a few that are happening in Vegas and some suggestions to safe guard your self.

Sales Man ringing door bells. No one answers he/she tries front door.
Suggestion: Observe and call police non emergency line if they attempt to break into a house. This person is trying to find out if anyone is at home during the day.

Stranger riding bike in Neighborhood. This one is looking for weak spots. Open window, doors, garage doors, etc.
Suggestion: Same as above. Additionally be seen by this person and make it obvious that you are watching them. Do not approach or confront.

Stranger enters home and pretends to be at wrong addressed. This person will act as if they walked into the wrong house and are very embarrassed. Usually enter through garage and have already stolen keys or remote. Suggestion: Call 911 Immediately!

A few suggestions to protect your self.
Know and talk to your neighbors...even if you don't like them or their annoying dog.
Know your neighbors patterns
Ask neighbor to watch your home if out of town.
Street, Yard and house lights on...even when your not home.
Don't leave items of value in the open.
Put things like Keys, wallets, purse, etc out of sight when you are at home.
Be very aware of any professional you allow in your home. What areas he or she has access to and what they can see. Do not leave this person alone at any time.
Always let whom ever is knocking on your door know that you are home even if you don't open the door.
Above all else!!!!!! Be aware of your surroundings! It's the who, what and where kind of thing. Be aware of who's around you at all times. Know what is going on. Know the address or major cross streets of where your at. That info is priceless if you end up on the phone with the police.
Lastly...if you are afraid or feel uneasy, there's a reason for that. It's called the gift of fear (also a good book).

Please my friends......Don't be sheep.

[Flash68]

Good stuff, Curtis.

[CraigMorrison]

Good reminder Curtis. One of the things we did when we moved in was invite all the neighbors over for a BBQ. Thankfully all are really good people - airline mechanic, US Army Major, retired State Patrol and a couple of car guys. We all watch out for each other and watch houses when people are away.

I also picked up my CCW in Jan. Figured if the laws change it would be easier to be grandfathered in....

[tones2SS]

Yeah, I leave the flood light on in the driveway over night.
Can't be too cautious. I do have a dog, but she's a little Mini Schnauzer, which really isn't going to do much except bark. I really want to get one of those trained GSD that can protect the home and persons as well. I grew up with GSD's and love them. Maybe I'll get one??:_paranoid
I heard on the news this morning, that someone tried to break into a home in Vermont when the family was there. A mom, dad and their 2 kids. IMAGINE THAT!! The mom was on the phone with 911, while the kids were safe and the dad shot the intruder when he entered the home. Police said it was justified and he was not charged. Not sure if the intruder lived, I think he did die though.
BE SAFE!!!:thumbsup:

[sick65]

Some idiot tried to break into my neighbor’s house at 6:00 this morning, while they were home. They never caught the person, but it has me on high alert. The cops said they found footprints from where the person had stood in the flowerbed, under the bathroom window.

Needless to say, I did a through check on the house and shop before I left for work.

I've had my CCW permit for almost two years and I carry a gun with me at all times. At first, my wife gave me a hard time about always having it with me. Then a few of our friends was robbed in the parking lot at the KC Goodguys show and then she started to pay attention to all the local crimes.

Now...she usually asks me if I remembered to grab it before we leave the house. I hope I never have to use it, but want to be prepared just in case I do.

[redfire69]

Yeah, I leave the flood light on in the driveway over night.
Can't be too cautious. I do have a dog, but she's a little Mini Schnauzer, which really isn't going to do much except bark. I really want to get one of those trained GSD that can protect the home and persons as well. I grew up with GSD's and love them. Maybe I'll get one??:_paranoid
I heard on the news this morning, that someone tried to break into a home in Vermont when the family was there. A mom, dad and their 2 kids. IMAGINE THAT!! The mom was on the phone with 911, while the kids were safe and the dad shot the intruder when he entered the home. Police said it was justified and he was not charged. Not sure if the intruder lived, I think he did die though.
BE SAFE!!!:thumbsup:

I think that was the Virginia story and the intruder was shot dead:

http://www.roanoke.com/news/roanoke/wb/201127

[RDuke]

12 Guage & AR-15 can be your friend in situations like these :)

[ProTouring442]

Pick up a copy of The Truth About Self-Protection by Massad Ayoob. Great read with great advice!

Shiny Side Up!
Bill

[mdprovee]

About 6 months ago, my uncle was home invaded.

He lives in a small town, and he vary rarely even locked his door. Well one night, two guys knock on his door, he opens it, and they tell him thru the screen door, they just witnessed someone trying to break into his truck. He opened the screen door to see, and they pushed their way into the house. He has a garage with every tool imaginable, and they wanted the keys to the garage. He fought with them, and pushed one thru a front window. They ran after that.

Always be aware of strangers, and their intensions.

[BobB66SS]

Timely post for me, just picked up .45 caliber worth of break-in protection. Better to be over prepared and never need it in my lifetime than to need it and not have it just once.

[RECOVERY ROOM]

GLOCK 9 mil. works for me

[RECOVERY ROOM]

Timely post for me, just picked up .45 caliber worth of break-in protection. Better to be over prepared and never need it in my lifetime than to need it and not have it just once.

How true:thumbsup:

[John510]

Do you guys know if california allows ccw permits?

[camcojb]

Do you guys know if california allows ccw permits?

almost impossible to get in most counties, not sure about where you live.

Jody

[Young Gun]

2 big dogs, instant on lights, and my guns... Ill keep them all and feel safe thank you very much... as soon as I turn 21 ill be applying for my concealed... Had somebody get shot at point blank with a shotgun while sitting at a stoplight a few months back, crazy people out there

[NOT A TA]

About a year and a half ago my entire house was cleaned out. I'd moved everything to my new (to me) home and was at the old one to sell it.

Only the cars in the garage, 1 bedroom set, and a couple couches were left. Nextdoor neighbors didn't see anything. I found out a couple months ago from a next street over neighbor that they saw a crew of 4-6 come with a big huge truck during the day!

They took pretty much everything, and right out the front door. If they took the TV they took the table it was on. The only thing they left in my closet was my motorcycle leather. Not even a hanger on the floor. The cubbords were bare, closets emptied, clocks, telephones, cleaning supplies, guitars/amps, car parts, lamps, bed linen, stereos, computers, etc. all gone. When they stole the fridge (with the food) the water feed for the icemaker flooded the house. It took a couple months to sell the old houseand by the time I got to my new home the black mold had taken over and destroyed everything organic that was left including the cabinets, walls, mouldings, doors, and carpeting.

The house was destroyed inside, all of my personal posessions, gone. Was it someone who'd been there or someone they told? Cable guy, phone guy, home inspector, water, electric, appraisors, real estate, or maybe even a neighbor? Who knows? Be suspicious of everyone!

The ending is that no, the insurance company didn't cover it. After fighting for a year, (during which I had to find another place to live while continuning to pay all the expenses of the home) they didn't even cover half the costs of the repairs and none of my personal posessions (posessions includes appliances even though they came with the house). I tell everyone now READ YOUR POLICYS!

So after over a year and a half later, I finally moved into the house. I stayed at a local motel a couple days and got a bathroom functional and put a hot water heater in. Now I have to do (and pay for) everything else the insurance company wouldn't pay for. Electrical and plumbing, Bathrooms, kitchen cabinets, counters, floors, trim, fixtures, appliances, mouldings and finally paint.

So if you see something that seems even mildly unusual even in broad daylight call the police! You have no idea how much grief and expense they would have saved me if they'd just called to have the police check when they saw them loading a truck after I'd just moved in.

[G/A-body]

There are a lot of great suggestions by everyone. Craig's points about knowing your neighbors and looking out for each other, one of the best safeguards there is. My neighbors and I look out for one another and it has made a difference more than once. They are quicker to call the police than the alarm company. Plus the response time of the Sheriff's Department can be long. A few years back I had a pushy salesman walk into my yard and I told him he needed to leave. He continued to push the issue and I threatened to call the police which didn't faze him. Finally I told him that I was a police officer and if he didn't leave I would arrest him. He still wanted to sale me "cleaning products" I didn't want. Finally I physically removed him from my property and he played the "race card". If you see something out of order call the police, I am always glad to respond to something suspicious that is legitimate than have to take a burglary report or something worse. My department still does house checks when people go on vacation. One more suggestion. Inventory your property, take pictures, record serial numbers. If you become a victim of a property crime this is very helpful information. I can't begin to count the number of times I have stopped people with what I know to be stolen property and no way to prove it.

Be Safe.

Robert

[Spiffav8]

One more suggestion. Inventory your property, take pictures, record serial numbers. If you become a victim of a property crime this is very helpful information. I can't begin to count the number of times I have stopped people with what I know to be stolen property and no way to prove it.

Be Safe.

Robert

That is awesome advice! :thumbsup:

[deuce_454]

12 Guage & AR-15 can be your friend in situations like these :)

both are not well suited for close encounters in a residential house.. i would especially not fire an AR15 in a house where anyone i cared for lived. it will over penetrate whatever you fire it at.. and killing your kids with a thru wall shot isnt the best way to stay in good terms with the wife... and the 12 ga has a very tight spread at distances within buildings

a 4 inch revolver with 357 or 38+p and a good stopping load is all you need, and it never jams (anything smaller is real hard to use well).. have one close with a tactical light fitted, and carry an additional light (one is none, two is one as they say about **** with bateries) a pouch to put around your neck with an extra light, a speedloader a key to the dead bolt lock etc etc.. and perhaps maze or pepper spray is nice to have handy (i sleep in my adams costume and dont have pockets to put anything when i wake up at 3....)

passive security is also great.. doorphone or a small opening in the door to talk to strangers without exposing yourself or giving them an opportunity to enter forcefully.. cameras (and signs that warn about them) will deter most people not wanting to get caught on camera in the act of somthing punishable.

and the best weapon is common sense

[tones2SS]

About a year and a half ago my entire house was cleaned out. I'd moved everything to my new (to me) home and was at the old one to sell it.

Only the cars in the garage, 1 bedroom set, and a couple couches were left. Nextdoor neighbors didn't see anything. I found out a couple months ago from a next street over neighbor that they saw a crew of 4-6 come with a big huge truck during the day!

They took pretty much everything, and right out the front door. If they took the TV they took the table it was on. The only thing they left in my closet was my motorcycle leather. Not even a hanger on the floor. The cubbords were bare, closets emptied, clocks, telephones, cleaning supplies, guitars/amps, car parts, lamps, bed linen, stereos, computers, etc. all gone. When they stole the fridge (with the food) the water feed for the icemaker flooded the house. It took a couple months to sell the old houseand by the time I got to my new home the black mold had taken over and destroyed everything organic that was left including the cabinets, walls, mouldings, doors, and carpeting.

The house was destroyed inside, all of my personal posessions, gone. Was it someone who'd been there or someone they told? Cable guy, phone guy, home inspector, water, electric, appraisors, real estate, or maybe even a neighbor? Who knows? Be suspicious of everyone!

The ending is that no, the insurance company didn't cover it. After fighting for a year, (during which I had to find another place to live while continuning to pay all the expenses of the home) they didn't even cover half the costs of the repairs and none of my personal posessions (posessions includes appliances even though they came with the house). I tell everyone now READ YOUR POLICYS!

So after over a year and a half later, I finally moved into the house. I stayed at a local motel a couple days and got a bathroom functional and put a hot water heater in. Now I have to do (and pay for) everything else the insurance company wouldn't pay for. Electrical and plumbing, Bathrooms, kitchen cabinets, counters, floors, trim, fixtures, appliances, mouldings and finally paint.

So if you see something that seems even mildly unusual even in broad daylight call the police! You have no idea how much grief and expense they would have saved me if they'd just called to have the police check when they saw them loading a truck after I'd just moved in.

WOW!!! That sucks. Thieves are getting more brazen.
Good advice though.:thumbsup:

[383T/A]

I have 2 dogs that are very jumpy, good neighbors that work nights = home daytime. Best of all, I have several aluminum bats around the house, wife wont let me have guns (something about my temper). I would have a blast if someone dared enter while I was home.
Robbed while gone on the otherhand.... rob me blind. I have great insurance and could always use upgrades

[70rs]

Alot of great ways to protect ourselves on here. Knowing your neighbors and letting them know you is a great way to go. I have chased kids out of my neighbors garage at 4 am more than once. I am a BIG supporter of firearms as a means of self defense and defense of those around me. A .45 in the RIGHT hands can save lives, but as one post above noted be aware of penetrating walls and who is behind them. Get your family in a safe room, call the police and let the intruder know if they open that door they will be leaving in a big ziplock bag. My TV is not worth taking a life over, he can have it. I'm insured.
As for the salesman/ crook scoping out your house, usually your gut instinct and first impressions are right. DO NOT let them in your home. Get them off your property quickly. You are less likely to become a victim if you stand your ground and let them know you are not a pushover. I have friends who are officers and they say even fake signs, fake cameras are a big deterrent. The crook does not know it's fake.
When it comes down to your families safety, nothing beats a well armed AND trained homeowner with a gun.

[Spiffav8]

Deuce_454 made a very valid point one that I agree 100% with. An AR is not the kind of weapon you need to defend your home. It comes down to having the right tool for the job kind of thing. Penetrating a wall is going to happen with just about any firearm and bullet. I can't stress enough the "Know your Background" rule. I'm sure you've all heard of it one way or another. It's also a good idea to have a plan of what you are going to do if you do have a home invasion. Keep in mind this could happen while your asleep...at that point the intruder has a huge advantage! Have a plan and practice it.

One other point that I hope you all will put into action.....Keep up on your training. Defensive shooting and Defensive tactics are a perishable set of skills. I don't know of one Law Enforcement agency that doesn't require recurrent training. Again...there's a reason for that.


:thumbsup:

[Theresa]

Another good piece of advice, which I do every so often... is to take the entire contents of your wallet and place all the cards/papers/licences on a copy machine. Make a copy. They flip them all over and copy the back sides of them as well.

Take the two pieces of paper and lock them away somewhere safe. Bank, safe, etc.

If you ever lose your wallet - it'll make cancelling cards and getting replacements that much easier.

A little off topic, I know... but figured it was worth passing along.

[tones2SS]

Another good piece of advice, which I do every so often... is to take the entire contents of your wallet and place all the cards/papers/licences on a copy machine. Make a copy. They flip them all over and copy the back sides of them as well.

Take the two pieces of paper and lock them away somewhere safe. Bank, safe, etc.

If you ever lose your wallet - it'll make cancelling cards and getting replacements that much easier.

A little off topic, I know... but figured it was worth passing along.

That is a good idea.
I actually have done that myself.

[jst8a5.0]

GLOCK 9 mil. works for me

That's funny! I just got one too! Just don't forget the hollowpoints. It's better to leave all the shrapnel in the intruder and not my soon to be daughter.

[tones2SS]

That's funny! I just got one too! Just don't forget the hollowpoints. It's better to leave all the shrapnel in the intruder and not my soon to be daughter.

LOL!!!!:_paranoid

[TreySmith]

My friend and I were walking a few miles up the road to Dairy Queen down in Victoria Texas and took a break outside the school. It was the first time I have been there so I didn't know the people or my surroundings. Well, some random guy pulls up, gets out of his truck, then asks where we were headed. My friend stands up to him, pulls out his knife and tells him to get back into the truck. We are not small kids either, my friend is 6'0, 230, and I am 6'4 190. The guy nearly **** his pants and ran back to his truck. I was like "WTF ARE YOU DOING YOU IDIOT!!??!?" I can't believe my friend pulled a knife on that guy, but now that I look back at it, that probably saved us from a whole lotta trouble.

[FOMOGO]

I have been lurking here a while. And just thought I would add to this post. No one has mentioned the increasing amounts of thieves wearing body armor. A Glock 9 mm is just going to piss them off. A good old 45 ACP is just going to knock them back and piss them off worse. AR 15 with fragmented rounds made for home protection wont penetrate a wall but they go in a body with a 9mm hole and exit like a basketball. And a 38 revolver is a better throwing item than a shooting item. An old retired county police officer told me that he has seen 38's glance off of windshields. Everyone needs to do some research about ammunition, it is far more important than the weapon delivering it. Just remember the 2 bank robbers that were wearing body armor a few years ago in California. And don't think that you as an untrained, non regimented civilian you can "make the head shot". Way to many documented cases of trained police officers exhausting there ammo and scoring only 1 or 2 hits under the stress of self preservation.

I will be the first to admit that I don't know all the answers but I hope this adds to this thread,

FOMOGO

[ProTouring442]

I have been lurking here a while. And just thought I would add to this post. No one has mentioned the increasing amounts of thieves wearing body armor. A Glock 9 mm is just going to piss them off. A good old 45 ACP is just going to knock them back and piss them off worse. AR 15 with fragmented rounds made for home protection wont penetrate a wall but they go in a body with a 9mm hole and exit like a basketball. And a 38 revolver is a better throwing item than a shooting item. An old retired county police officer told me that he has seen 38's glance off of windshields. Everyone needs to do some research about ammunition, it is far more important than the weapon delivering it. Just remember the 2 bank robbers that were wearing body armor a few years ago in California. And don't think that you as an untrained, non regimented civilian you can "make the head shot". Way to many documented cases of trained police officers exhausting there ammo and scoring only 1 or 2 hits under the stress of self preservation.

I will be the first to admit that I don't know all the answers but I hope this adds to this thread,

FOMOGO


I do not mean to be offensive, but frankly your post is riddled with misinformation, and seems to be based more on something heard in a Dirty Harry movie than read in a reputable firearms publication. First, very few criminals are wearing body armor. It's very expensive, and not something you're likely to find and steal at your local Wallmart. Yes, there were the two bank robbers who utilized the stuff, but as you will recall, they also had fully automatic weapons, something that very few citizens, and even fewer criminals are likely to have.

Second, a good .45 shot, with a well designed round (Hydroshock, etc.) will undoubtedly stop most criminals on the first shot. It goes in with a nice 1/2" hole and expands to some three times that size before coming to a stop inside the target's body. Massive internal bleeding follows, causing a sudden loss of blood pressure and thus sends your perpetrator into shock. Even a good .38 can mess up someone's day in this fashion, though I would be more apt to recommend a .357.

Third, most police officers are not actually all that well trained when it comes to marksmanship. This is however changing due to some of the studies that have produced results similar to what you have espoused concerning the number of shots your average police officer can put into a moving target. Still, there are few officers who would not be able to to put more than "one or two shots" out of the 15 or so, carried in the average police officer's Glock or Barretta magazine, into their target while under duress.

Fourth, very few people are capable of taking a direct hit from a .45 into their body armor and just get "pissed off." The impact is likely to break several ribs, and frequently the chest compression caused by the impact is more than enough to send an average person into shock. Even without broken ribs, the resultant bruise is likely to cover an area of some 10" or more! Land two or three into their vest and you will in all likelihood incapacitate them long enough to be capable of holding them at gunpoint until the police and ambulance show up.

Lastly, most criminals have absolutely no wish to confront an armed homeowner. Unlike with the police, whose job is to apprehend a a suspect, the homeowner has much more leeway in the eyes of the law when he is in a situation where he fears for his or his family's life. Thus, in a very large percentage of situations, the criminal is more likely to retreat in the face of force than to stand his ground and risk an armed confrontation. You must also consider that the average criminal, with his stolen gun, has little to no training or practice with his weapon. He has chosen to carry a weapon solely for its intimidation factor and therefore is more than likely to discharge it out of fear than he is to fire it with any accuracy.

Nonetheless, I would strongly recommend to anyone who wishes to protect themselves and their families to pick up a copy of "The Truth About Self-Protection" by Massad Ayoob. It is a well written and fact filled book concerning the do's and don'ts of self protection, including the best ways to prepare for the aftermath of such a confrontation. He goes into many factors someone should consider, including what dog is the best for home protection (Great Dane), less than lethal means that are available, and the best plan should someone break into your home.

Shiny Side Up!
Bill

[tjbruning]

Something else to consider - do not leave your insurance and registration in your car. Or, try and hide it somewhere other than in the glove box.

This happened to a co-worker of a friend of mine - She came out to her car after work and something didn't feel right. Long story short, thieves broke into her car but only took a couple things....

-garage door opener
-insurance and registration

They didn't take any other personal possessions from the car. They only wanted her address and an easy way to get into the house. She called the cops but it was too late - the thieves had already ransacked her home.

[sick65]

My friend and I were walking a few miles up the road to Dairy Queen down in Victoria Texas and took a break outside the school. It was the first time I have been there so I didn't know the people or my surroundings. Well, some random guy pulls up, gets out of his truck, then asks where we were headed. My friend stands up to him, pulls out his knife and tells him to get back into the truck. We are not small kids either, my friend is 6'0, 230, and I am 6'4 190. The guy nearly **** his pants and ran back to his truck. I was like "WTF ARE YOU DOING YOU IDIOT!!??!?" I can't believe my friend pulled a knife on that guy, but now that I look back at it, that probably saved us from a whole lotta trouble.

That's a good way to get shot. I can understand protecting yourself in a violent situation, but pulling a knife of a guy that is simply asking a question is not very smart. Just something to consider.

[TreySmith]

That's a good way to get shot. I can understand protecting yourself in a violent situation, but pulling a knife of a guy that is simply asking a question is not very smart. Just something to consider. Trust me, wasn't my idea, my friend is just a *****. I am a fighter at heart but I never pull a knife on someone unless I felt my life was at risk. That is just something I couldn't live with.

[J-440]

I find it totally bizarre that most state governments won't allow law-abiding citizens to protect themselves. I've had my CHL for 5 years and have only had 1 instance of a threat...and I only showed my weapon. It's amazing when a group of thugs want to mug a "helpless" couple and then they see the handle of a .45 caliber. Changes their minds REAL quick. To totally rely on the cops and the govt. to protect you is suicide. Yes, liberalism is a mental disorder.


Signed,
A far right-wing terrorist who clings to his guns and religion.