View Full Version : G link Install, Super cool stuff, Lots of pics
ProdigyCustoms
04-02-2009, 08:01 AM
We had a chance to install the new G link is Louis Barraza's badd ass 68 Camaro we painted last month. We used a 12 bolt rear and did the weld on brakcets on this car. Turned out fantastic, I am VERY impressed. the stuff came very well packaged, fit perfect, and looks amazing. I have not been able to drive the car yet. This is a on going project. But knowing what the original G Bar system is capable off, add the adjustability of the G Link, and the extra beef in the complete system. And it is a no brainer this will be even better then the original G bar.
I will have a G link installed in my own car very soon and will be able to do driving impression and track testing. If I ever get time to work on my own stuff.
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u212/ProdigyCustoms/DSC_0487.jpg
A pair of brackets weld to the inner frame rails, pretty basic welding here in a solid easy to weld area. They also self locate pretty well, so it is almost impossible to screw them up.
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u212/ProdigyCustoms/DSC_0516.jpg
A bolt in crossmember ties the to brackets together
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u212/ProdigyCustoms/DSC_0511.jpg
Another angle, Looks killer
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u212/ProdigyCustoms/DSC_0513.jpg
The shocks can be mounting in multiple vertical positions to adjust ride height. Additional ride height adjustment can be made buy running the coil spring up and down the shock. Multiple spring rates are available to suit your individual needs.
ProdigyCustoms
04-02-2009, 08:01 AM
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u212/ProdigyCustoms/DSC_0526.jpg
The upper shock has 3 horizontal positions to change the shock angle.
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u212/ProdigyCustoms/DSC_0522.jpg
Here you can see the loower bar has 4 vertical positions, the upper bar has 2 positions for instant center changes. Really cool stuff.
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u212/ProdigyCustoms/DSC_0537.jpg
Look at the size of that lower bar! Really beefy! The Offset bushing moves the lower bar inboard on mini tub cars for excellent tire to lower bar clearance. Weld on brackets, or a ready made Fab 9 housing are required for offset bar mini tub aplication. NON mini tub cars can use the original mono or multi leaf mounts, or can use weld on brackets or a ready made Fab 9 housing
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u212/ProdigyCustoms/DSC_0540.jpg
No much to say but WOW!
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u212/ProdigyCustoms/DSC_0549.jpg
Just WOW!
Swain
04-02-2009, 08:42 AM
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u212/ProdigyCustoms/DSC_0526.jpg
The upper shock has 3 horizontal positions to change the shock angle.
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u212/ProdigyCustoms/DSC_0522.jpg
Here you can see the loower bar has 4 vertical positions, the upper bar has 2 positions for instant center changes. Really cool stuff.
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u212/ProdigyCustoms/DSC_0537.jpg
Look at the size of that lower bar! Really beefy! The Offset bushing moves the lower bar inboard on mini tub cars for excellent tire to lower bar clearance. Weld on brackets, or a ready made Fab 9 housing are required for offset bar mini tub aplication. NON mini tub cars can use the original mono or multi leaf mounts, or can use weld on brackets or a ready made Fab 9 housing
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u212/ProdigyCustoms/DSC_0540.jpg
No much to say but WOW!
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u212/ProdigyCustoms/DSC_0549.jpg
Just WOW!
Looks awesome, I have a 68 and getting ready for the rear suspension. How much is the kit going for?
Jason
Bowtieracing
04-02-2009, 08:47 AM
Frank ,
The original G-bar , is it allso okay with minitubs ??
ProdigyCustoms
04-02-2009, 08:48 AM
There are various options, but this kit was right at $2250 and included the weld jig. A couple options can run the cost up and down a few pennies. the uretahne kit is only $1800 and change.
Swain
04-02-2009, 11:19 AM
It looks nice but just seems kinda of expensive for what it is. Is there a rear sway bar?
ProdigyCustoms
04-02-2009, 12:44 PM
It looks nice but just seems kinda of expensive for what it is. Is there a rear sway bar?
All the good 4 links that actually work are going to be in the high teens to lows 2s. The Base G bar, $1839, Prodigy Bar, $2100, G Link $2139, DSE $2195.
Swain
04-02-2009, 01:09 PM
Soon as I get all the sheet metal back on my car I will have to send you a PM and get something ordered up. Thanks Frank for the Info.
Jason
ItDoRun
04-02-2009, 07:45 PM
Looks killer, Frank! Thanks for posting the photos. When can we expect to see it at ride height? How much more ride height adjustment is left in it?
ProdigyCustoms
04-02-2009, 08:14 PM
It has no weight in it right now. Except for the glass it is a bare shell, so it will settle quite a bit. It has a good couple inches left in it anyway.
John510
04-02-2009, 08:37 PM
COOOL!
These things are def worth the money. I got mine yesterday and the craftmanship is awesome!!!! I hope to have it in soon.
Weldon0405
04-03-2009, 06:37 AM
Looks awesome! I can't wait to be able to check out this setup for myself. :D
Steve68
04-03-2009, 09:19 AM
HMMMMM, caught my interest, saving now for a kit tomorrow!
onevoice
04-03-2009, 12:56 PM
Looks killer, Frank! Thanks for posting the photos. When can we expect to see it at ride height? How much more ride height adjustment is left in it?
I have it sitting at ride height now, I will try to get some pictures if the weather clears this afternoon.
ItDoRun
04-03-2009, 08:02 PM
I have it sitting at ride height now, I will try to get some pictures if the weather clears this afternoon.
That would be great! Thanks.
awr68
04-03-2009, 08:06 PM
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u212/ProdigyCustoms/DSC_0549.jpg
Looks like Payback's brother! And that's a good thing in my book!! :thumbsup:
ItDoRun
04-03-2009, 08:11 PM
Looks awesome! I can't wait to be able to check out this setup for myself. :D
I'll be installing mine soon. Come by and see it first hand if you're in the area.
ProdigyCustoms
04-04-2009, 03:16 AM
ItDoRun, I was just up there droping a project and picking up 2 more projects. I have 2 projects to deliver in a few weeks, one to Dothan, Ala and New Orleans, then swing up to Vicksburg to grab a couple more projects for the shop. I might have to swing by and check up on you! How close to Biloxi are you? I will have to stop by there on the way home.
syborg tt
04-04-2009, 05:28 AM
Looks like a really nice kit Frank.
I know people have been asking what i am about to ask. What is the actually ride height ?
Is it possible to set the car up at 6.00" from the pinch weld ?
It doesn't look possible :(
ProdigyCustoms
04-04-2009, 09:49 AM
No suspension system that uses stock rear frame rails is going to ride that low without being on the stops. EmptyNest is probably one of the lowest stock frame rail ride height cars around, and even with extended rockers is over 6" rocker to ground measurement.
So it is not a given suspension that limits ride height. This kit has enough adjustment to ride on the stops, but you would not want to do that
ItDoRun
04-04-2009, 12:58 PM
ItDoRun, I was just up there droping a project and picking up 2 more projects. I have 2 projects to deliver in a few weeks, one to Dothan, Ala and New Orleans, then swing up to Vicksburg to grab a couple more projects for the shop. I might have to swing by and check up on you! How close to Biloxi are you? I will have to stop by there on the way home.
Frank,
I'm actually about an hour and a half west of New Orleans (in Baton Rouge), but it's all interstate and a pretty easy drive. If you've got some time to kill, let me know. You're more than happy to swing by. I need to talk about front suspension with you anyway. Plus, it would definitely be nice to meet you in person and put a face with a name.
Chris
Weldon0405
04-04-2009, 08:06 PM
I'll be installing mine soon. Come by and see it first hand if you're in the area.
I'll probably get to the BR area for a weekend within the next month. I'll let you know when I'll be in town.
syborg tt
04-05-2009, 10:40 AM
No suspension system that uses stock rear frame rails is going to ride that low without being on the stops. EmptyNest is probably one of the lowest stock frame rail ride height cars around, and even with extended rockers is over 6" rocker to ground measurement.
So it is not a given suspension that limits ride height. This kit has enough adjustment to ride on the stops, but you would not want to do that
Thanks Frank - looks like i'm going to be cutting the next one up a little more then i planned.
ibdmann
04-10-2009, 04:35 AM
for a 69 camaro thats mini tubbed it's written that you need the weld on brackets with off-set bushings to bring the lower bar in-board. Are the brackets welded inboard of where the original leaf spring perch's were located on a 69 camaro. Anything you can add would be appreciated
thanks
ProdigyCustoms
04-10-2009, 07:07 AM
Because the lower link bar is so fat. If you are doing a mini tub car you have to use the weld on brackets and offset bushings specified in your kit order. We did th weld on brackets on Louis car. These brackets eliminate the leaf spring perches and moves the bars in for tire clearance.
crazycarl
04-10-2009, 02:26 PM
That's sweet.
ViperBlue68
04-14-2009, 11:57 PM
:thumbsup: looks realy good! what size wheel and tire is on the back?
ProdigyCustoms
04-15-2009, 06:02 AM
Those are 335 / 30 / 18s.
ItDoRun
04-16-2009, 01:53 PM
Those 335's are tight under there!
ProdigyCustoms
04-16-2009, 02:04 PM
Plenty of room. Were dialed in on all the measurments. Remeber we have 335s under MotiV8tr also
Swain
04-16-2009, 03:53 PM
Frank
Do you have anymore pics of the car like side shots rear shot etc?
tabragg
05-11-2009, 01:53 PM
this car is not mini tubed right?
ProdigyCustoms
05-11-2009, 02:20 PM
This car IS mini tub and has the offset arms option for mini tub
tabragg
05-13-2009, 02:53 AM
thanks . you guys do killer work. i wish pc had a reality show . it would get top ratings.
AJSZR2326
05-13-2009, 08:18 AM
when you jack up one side of the car up what does the other side do (rear only) i only ask becasue my g-bar rear suspension has already tore the upper link bushing. i got rid of the u bolts and welded everything now. i guess i dont like the fact you cant upgrade to their new stuff(c/w).also for 2yrs i've done nothing but constantly adjust things in the back to get suspension dialed in correctly.springs/shocks/ moving the brackets, ect.maybe there's too much adjustability.
Vegas69
05-13-2009, 08:30 AM
Tore my upper bushing in my first autocross as well. Frank has some upgraded end links he uses on the Prodigy bar that you might as well buy.
Steve1968LS2
05-13-2009, 08:31 AM
Thanks for the pictures.. I have a g-bar ready to go into the Track Rat project.
That car won't be mini-tubbed and I will weld the brackets in place. I also ordered the housing with the brackets already welded in place, that was a BIG time saver.
AJSZR2326
05-13-2009, 08:38 AM
thx i sent him a pm
Swain
05-13-2009, 11:13 AM
Tore my upper bushing in my first autocross as well. Frank has some upgraded end links he uses on the Prodigy bar that you might as well buy.
Thats good to know, How do you overall rate the G bar? Should I go DSE
Vegas69
05-13-2009, 12:23 PM
I have the old G Bar with the air ride bushings not the new G Link. Happy with the ride and handling so far. The bushings aren't made for performance. Two of us just in this thread with torn bushings. I'm upgrading my links currently to the kevlar/teflon race style. You can't go wrong with DSE ever, and the new G link looks good to since they offer teh sway bar and upgraded bushings now.
Marcus SC&C
05-18-2009, 03:50 PM
Wow, nice pics Frank. Very clean install. I`m a big fan of the G-Link myself. I don`t think there`s a more adaptable system on the market right now. It can be set to do just about anything really well. I`ve been working with PRI on the setup of the RCR Series 3 Camaros and we`re expecting some really outstanding numbers from the new G-Link equipped cars.
To the guys with bushings issues in the original G-Bar I`d be curious to know what rate springs,what shock settings you`re running and if you`re running a rear bar with it. The only issues we`ve seen have been related to either excessive articulation or heinous abuse with giant horsepower. The G-Bar is a really nice touring system but isn`t ideal for hardcore performance use out of the box. I agree that it would be nice if the new greasable pivot ball G-Link arms interchanged but they don`t...so we designed and built our own. :) I don`t want to hijack Franks thread though, I`ll post a separate one. Mark SC&C
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