I destroyed a rim on the way back from Goodguys !!!

[DRJDVM's '69]

Well on the way back form Goodguys I hit a rim/tire in the fast lane. The car in front of me swerved just in time and just missed it and I had to make the choice of hit it, or the car next to me.... there was not room enough to get all the way over. I managed to get over enough that it basically destroyed my rim and tire but nothing else....at least thats after my first inspection once I got it home and up on the jackstands...

The guy whose tire came off was across the freeway...... I called AAA and they dispatched CHP.... the guy had a drivers license but no insurance for the vehicle...he was somewhat cool, but I was still pissed.....AAA came and got the car loaded up.... then 2 sherrifs and CHP showed.... I guess the tow compnay called the driver and he didnt answer so they freaked and sent the calavary.....

So the CHP says since the tire/rim was staionary when I hit it, I will be found at fault. Up until that point the other driver was willing to help out with paying for the rim... then it was I'll give you $100..... the CHP also said that I would likley get a point on my record since it was a "staionary object"....

So basically I have the guys info but I'm on the hook for the damages most likely...I can file with my insurance (Grundy), but I dont know how that will effect my rate etc etc...we'll see on Monday....

So..... I need one Bonspeed Delta rim and a Kuhmo tire....hopefully the rest of the suspension checks okay when I do a more detailed inspection tomorrow...

All in all it looks like about $400-600 worth of damage unless I find something tomorrow.... could be a alot worse and my son Kyle was with me, so I thank god the accident wasnt worse.....

Fun fun.....

[ProdigyCustoms]

There is no way I would file a $500 or so claim. not worth it. That really sucks. Just glad your OK, could have had a worse ending. I PMed you some info.

[class67]

Damn, Ned...that really sucks and I'm sorry to hear it but at least nobody was hurt. Where was this at? I didn't see anything on my way back.

Anyway, if it makes you feel any better, the rear end in my car has (just today) developed a strange click / clunking sound upon leaving a dead stop in the right rear, so I will not be attending tomorrow either...oh well, life goes on!

[Musclerodz]

That sucks Ned. I can't believe they are going to fault you for hitting a stationary object. The fault should be all on the driver that lost it and since it is known who it was he should be cited.

[DRJDVM's '69]

Hey Steve....its was on 580 just west of Mountain house...around 5 PM or so.....

The thing that pisses me off is that if the rim/tire is stationary, its not his fault that he had it come off........ if it was moving, then its his fault.... its was either hit the rim or probably smack the car next to me....... gee which is better.....

And he didnt have insurance....but the CHP didnt cite him for that.....

Hopefully I can find a hook up to get one rim at a decent price and decent time...... Frank gave me some info that hopefully will help...

Mike... you dont have any hookups for Bonspeed wheels do you ?

Ned

[Steve1968LS2]

How could you POSSIBLY get a point on your record for hitting debris on the freeway??? That makes no sense.

And the whole "it was stationary" part is non-sensical.. makes it sound like you hit a lightpole..

Gotta love the jackhole with no insurance.. Like I always say, the track is safer than the damn freeways.

Sorry you got nailed.. hope the rest of the car checks out good..

[Danny Thomas]

Are you sure Cali is not another country... you have some really stupid laws. Sorry for the mishap and the guy should pay for the damages. He would have been found at fault here in TN.

[fesler]

That sucks but dont think you can get a point for hitting a wheel so make sure you check on that.

[brans72]

Can we all say BullSh*t here I think he other driver should have been at fault he addmitted was he tire/rim and it came from his vechile so is it your fault for his stupidity? I really glad I do not live in Ca seems like different laws then the the rest of the states. Hope everything else is good with your car man!

[dhutton]

There is no way I would file a $500 or so claim. not worth it. That really sucks. Just glad your OK, could have had a worse ending. I PMed you some info.

I agree. I recommend you don't file a claim, don't even call your insurance company. Someday if you make a real claim this will come back to bite you even if you end up not filing the claim.

Don

[DRJDVM's '69]

So heres the damage..
http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee264/DRJDVM95/69%20Camaro/IMG_3104.jpg

http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee264/DRJDVM95/69%20Camaro/IMG_3105.jpg

It looks like the center section is okay...its just the outer rim. I looked at the car more last night.... I couldnt wait. Everything looks good....which is making me nervous that I'm missing something.

The wheel is still centered, nothing is binding or appears bent, the balljoints seem fine etc etc. I'm just really suprised I could have done that much damage to the rim without tweaking something else. Since there is no body damage I must have just clipper the rim/tire with the outside edge of my rim. My rim would have been turned to the pass side alot, so I'm thinking the force would have been back and up, towards the outside of the car, rather than pushing in towards the frame etc

As for the point etc....yes I plan on doing more research before I let this all go. I have the guys name, the tow truck driver and CHP names etc etc to. A good friend of mine is a lawyer and he wants to jump all over this to make sure this guys pays for it. If he's all fired up to run with it, I may let him and see how it plays out....worth a shot ot get the rim and tire paid for.

As for insurance....mine is Grundy and its the only car I have on there. I'm gonna call and get some info before I decide about a claim or not. The rim seems to list for around $600....tire $200.....mounting say $40..alignment etc of around $100...so if all else is well, I'm looking at around $1k in damage.... Not "break the bank" but not cheap either.....

[Aschle]

Did CHP write you a ticket? If so, what the heck for? That is the only way to get points put on your driving record isn't it? I am not an officer, nor do I know all of the laws, but this sounds absurd ! If you did get written, your lawyer should have no trouble getting a judge to overturn it. I am sorry to hear about the damage, but as you stated, it could have been worse, especially if your boy was with you... The vehicle can be fixed.

Best of luck with this !

Jason

[98ssnova]

Man that sucks. Have you looked into having the wheel repaired there are some companies that do just that. Wheelamerica I think is one where in TX. Also I don't know it's not that guys fault. Espically since he did not have INS he should have been cited on the spot. I am pretty sure you can take him to court. Hope it works out for ya.

[tones2SS]

That's horrible.
I can't fathom the way the CHP handled the situation. "It was stationary" they said. Last time I knew, other people's tires/rims were not part of the public highway. Doesn't seem right.
Good luck to you and at least you & your boy were not injured.:lateral:

[DRJDVM's '69]

No CHP didnt give me a ticket... he basically said if I file an accident report for hitting a stationary object, it gives me a point on my record.

The other driver apparently owns a body shop so he has insurance for any vehicle he uses through his business...of course the CHP never verified this claim...then never even called in his license or reg etc, so for all they know this guy could be a wanted felon.

So the moral of the story is if any of you guys want to dump stuff all over the freeway for people to run into, youre free and clear of any responsibility if someone gets injured.:thumbsup:

[brans72]

So the moral of the story is if any of you guys want to dump stuff all over the freeway for people to run into, youre free and clear of any responsibility if someone gets injured :thumbsup:


This is great news I got a 10 bolt from a 70 chevelle I need to get rid of and a 307 engine :D

[skatinjay27]

damn ned that f-in sux but THANK GOD the rest of the cars ok. the whole situation really pisses me off though. typical crap, they ticket ya for smoke out of the tail pipes but its cool to have a cars wheel fall off and not have insurance...

i hit a median going 50 before in my forth gen and destroyed my rims too, both front and rear. but there was absolutly NO damage any where else ,I coulnd believe it either.

[buickfunnycar.com]

Sorry to hear that,hope that wheel is all the damage that was done.:yes:

[CNDbowtie]

i hit a chunk of cement on the hwy at 100km/hr and did more damage to my aluminum wheel..it was literally missing chunks of aluminum...i thought it be replaced but it was fixed for under 200bucks...so id look up some wheel repair shops in your area and take it in for a estimate

[rjsjea]

That sucks Ned....much cheaper than bending sheetmetal though.

Here in Oregon it would be the same as far as not being other driver's fault for the tire. The expectation is that you should be able to stop before hitting an object in the road....BS I know. Ultimately I think it limits the states liability for potholes and bad roads which can damage tires/wheels as well

-Rob

[chrismoe]

Ned,

Glad to hear you and your son are OK. Given what happened, your car seems to be OK.

Take care,
Chris

[rocketman]

Bonspeed might be able to fix that wheel call them and find out. Sorry about the bad luck one of the risk of driving anything on the road.

[DRJDVM's '69]

My lawyer friend feels there is now way in hell that we dont have a case against the other driver....he's gonna look into it.....he may be dead wrong once he researches it more. It wouldnt suprise me. What makes common sense isnt always what is "the law". There was no way to avoid hitting it.... the driver in front swerved and just missed it and I had no place to go.... I was lucky I only grazed it

If nothing else maybe he can scare the guy into kicking in some for damages.

I have no idea about wheel repair places.....anyone that does, please chime in..... I'm in N. California

[class67]

Ned, is the center of the wheel damaged at all? it doesn't look to be in the pictures but kinda hard to tell. Does it just need to be re-hooped?

[DRJDVM's '69]

It looks like it could be re-hooped....know of anyone that can do that ?

[Aschle]

I know Intro used to be able to do that... I would contact the manufacture first and get input from them. I have seen in a few magazines (a while back) articles of repairing wheels / re- hooping wheels, etc. Someone will be able to get you taken care of.

Jason

[class67]

Try this guy: http://www.esajianwheels.com/home.php

I used him to change the bs on my wheels a while back and he did great work in a timely manor. I don't know how hard it is to get a hoop these days but it might be worth a try.

[Payton King]

Something sitting in the road and you hit it, you are at fault. IE ladder laying in the road. If you were following someone and they missed it and you hit it, then they will say you were following too close to the car in front to take action or you were not paying attention. This is the case even if you hit a huge pot hole in the road at night...driving to fast for conditions, etc.

Now if something flys off the truck and hits your car or the road and hits your car it is considered comp not a collison loss...normally the object still has to be moving but not always

Here is where your case is different. It sounds like the guy did not secure his load and the tire fell off his truck and people avoided it...but you. In that case, it is his fault. Obvioulsy the chain of events were such that it had just fallen off even though it may have been at rest when you hit it.

Now had the guy taken off and no witnesses stopped to say it fell off, they would find you responsible.

I know it sucks, but it is the way things work. You will only get a point if you are found to be "at fault." In this case I do not see it.

[mdprovee]

Sorry to hear that Ned. Hope things work out for you.

[DRJDVM's '69]

The wheel didnt fall off a truck etc.... it literally came off his wheel hub while driving. It was a small import car like a Honda Civic or something like that.

The driver in front of me all of a sudden swerved over into the other lane....no braking, no slowing down......just all of a sudden, like they saw it at the last second. The big difference is that they had a place to go since the lane next to them was empty.....by the time that car moved enough for me to see a wheel in the road, there was a car next to me and I had no place to go. Its a very busy highway with alot of traffic, so it was wall to wall cars going 65-80 MPH...not many places to maneuver quickly. If there wasnt a car next to me I could have gotten around it.... there was no way I could have braked and stopped and even if I had there would have been a car up my ass in seconds.

I'll make some calls to day and see what my options are....at this point since the damage seems isolated to the rim/tire, I'll probably just fit the bill myself. If my lawyer friend can squeeze some $$ out of the other guy, all that much better, but I'm not going to count on it or make it a big drag out fight.

[Spiffav8]

Ned I am so sorry to hear about the drama and damage done to your car. Thank God you and your son are safe. I can only imagine what could have happened had a Semi hit that thing and sent it flying into your car. I hope you can get the wheel re-hooped or replaced without to much drama.

Where you lucky enough that the wheel that was destroyed was the one with a scratch on it? lol

:captain:

[rjsjea]

You definately have a civil claim against the other guy. Unfortunately not a criminal complaint.

Check out www.weldcraftwheels.com for a repair

[gearheadgarage]

Tough luck Ned, at least you're okay. There is a good wheel shop here in Sac that should be able to repair the wheel. You can contact BJ @ Precision Wheel (916) 641-7454. He's located @ Hwy 80 & El Camino.

Also, most wheel manufacturers carry the outer rim sections & can re-hoop the rim for a nominal fee, generally much less than the cost of a replacement wheel, only drawback is you'll be left 3-wheelin for a week or two....

Good luck, Jason

[DRJDVM's '69]

I dont care about a criminal compliant....he didnt do it on purpose.... I just want to have him pay for the replacement rim, not me.

I have a call into Bonspeed....nothing so far

On a good note, I called Grundy and they told me there is no "aftermath" for filing a claim....no change in premium etc and it wont effect my driving record or the insurance for my other daily driver cars. The claims adjuster is supposed to call me later today. So it sound promising that at least my insurance wont be effected.

Thanks for the referral on rim repair... I'll check them out.

ned

[Musclerodz]

Ned I sent you an email.

[Swain]

Have Bonspeed re rim that wheel.

[Payton King]

I forgot to say how sorry I was you car got torn up. I know had it been me I would be freaking out.

After reading your other post, it will be covered under your policy as a Comp loss and just like they stated will not go against you. Since he did not have insurance let you company handle it. I am sure they will have you sign subrogation papers so they can go after the party responsible. IF they collect either from his insurance or him personally, you will be refunded your deductible if you have one.

I am glad you did not have sheet metal damage or suspension work.

[chr2002ca]

Damn, that's a bummer about the rim. Thank goodness you made the correct split-second decision to not swerve and hit a car next to you. That's excellent driving. :thumbsup:

For the cop to tell you that you get a point on your license for filing an insurance claim is just unbelievable. There are millions of instances each day where a person is forced to run over something on a highway because they simply could not move to the left or right and could not see the object in time due to the car in front of them blocking the view of the object. It has nothing to do with following someone too closely. Just another example of why I try to avoid the highways at all costs when I'm in my own '69.

I hope Bonspeed is able to help you out in some way. Looking at the photo, I would be surprised if the center section isn't somehow bent slightly. I certainly hope it isn't and that they can extract it and weld it into a new hoop. Thank goodness the damage is only to your wheel.

-Chris

[mazspeed]

Hey Ned, sorry to hear about that. You and I have the same luck when it comes to cars. Thank god it wasn't worse.

[chicane]

File a lawsuit against the CHP... for negligence. Afterall... it's their job to keep the highways safe for the motorists on it.

First of all... the driver WITHOUT insurance... IS... at fault. It is clearly stated as so in the California DMV laws. It's just like if you were drinking and somebody hit you... you would be the one at fault... even though the other guy may have broken a law or six when THEY hit you. He who brakes the law (in California) first... is negligent.

Lets just hope you have under-insured / un-insured coverage on your policy. There is no way that your insurance company would hit you for an accident that was to no fault of your own.

Gotta love California. The land of 'pass the buck of responsibility' to those who actually follow the law's.

[crazycarl]

I have no idea about wheel repair places.....anyone that does, please chime in..... I'm in N. California

I know there is a shop in walnut creek that can repair wheels. Rite-Way Wire and Wheel Specialists. They do phenomenal work and are reasonably priced. My buddy took a couple Konig rims there and they straightened them like new. (925) 933-4046‎

I know that's not exactly Manteca, but they do the job.