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Josh@KYTP
03-19-2009, 10:19 AM
I have finally decided to get out of the late model stuff in favor of getting back to where I started with old muscle. I am looking at building my first PT style build. Seeing as my dad wont let me touch his 71 Nova or 72 C10, I have to buy my own project.
I am looking at a 68 Camaro and a 71 Split Bumper Camaro. Both are in the same range as far as purchase price, Body work needed, and over all shape.
I have not ruled out a SWB 67-72 truck either. I really like PorterBuilts drop member and C5 suspension.
I guess I am looking for opinions on what platform is the best to start with. Around Bowling Green first gen Camaro’s are all over the place. The 70-73 Camaro’s are rarely seen.
I am not looking to set the world on fire with my first build. I am shooting for a good driver that has decent overall handling, braking, and power. I like to the looks of the old cars with the handling of the new cars. I have been spoiled by the typical 700rwhp LS1 Turbo cars I usually turn out of my shop.
Any tips, opinions, suggestions, and so forth are welcome. I am glad to be a part of the forum.
jy211
03-19-2009, 10:31 AM
I'd choose a second gen. Reason: I want to build one :D, plus I already have a first gen! :lol:
tones2SS
03-19-2009, 10:47 AM
Sounds good.
What shop do you work for?
An early model Camaro or a 68 Camaro would be awesome!!! Tons of info and good people here.:lateral: :thumbsup:
D Rock
03-19-2009, 10:54 AM
Its really personal preference as far as which body style you like better. First gens have a little more aftermarket support but you won't have a problem building a second gen either. I vote for the split bumper, id love to have one of those one day.
Josh@KYTP
03-19-2009, 11:35 AM
Sounds good.
What shop do you work for?
An early model Camaro or a 68 Camaro would be awesome!!! Tons of info and good people here.:lateral: :thumbsup:
I own my own turbo shop. Specializing in LS1 F-Bodies.
Just wanting to try something different.
Josh,
Which car do you like? Both of the cars you listed have the potential to be sweet.
Keep up the good work.
Just so everyone knows:
Josh builds turbo systems for 98-02 camaro and 04-06 gto. He has a fantastic rep on LS1tech. Josh built a 800rwhp camaro with a tc76 turbo...WITH STOCK EXHAUST MANIFOLDS.
David
class67
03-19-2009, 11:41 AM
I'd choose a second gen. Reason: I want to build one :D, plus I already have a first gen! :lol:
X2...same here!
Go for the 2nd gen!
tones2SS
03-19-2009, 03:10 PM
I own my own turbo shop. Specializing in LS1 F-Bodies.
Just wanting to try something different.
That's cool. :thumbsup:
Are you a member of ls1tech.com as well?
bentfab
03-19-2009, 05:49 PM
Here's a back half for the c-10 your considering?
andrewmp6
03-19-2009, 08:00 PM
Why not a 73-87 c10 or a late model s10 or colorado.What about a g body there is a lot cars out there.
Spiffav8
03-19-2009, 08:51 PM
The 71 Split Bumper gets my vote. Not many of them have been given the treatment. It would be a lot fun to watch one come together here on the board....then again there all fun to watch.
:thumbsup:
Vegas69
03-19-2009, 09:19 PM
I'd go 2 gen as well. I have absolutely no regrets with my 69, but an early 70's Camaro was a possibility for a moment. Definitely not many now and even less then.
Josh@KYTP
03-19-2009, 10:07 PM
Josh,
Which car do you like? Both of the cars you listed have the potential to be sweet.
Keep up the good work.
Just so everyone knows:
Josh builds turbo systems for 98-02 camaro and 04-06 gto. He has a fantastic rep on LS1tech. Josh built a 800rwhp camaro with a tc76 turbo...WITH STOCK EXHAUST MANIFOLDS.
David
Thanks Man.
tones2SS Quote:
That's cool.
Are you a member of ls1tech.com as well?
Yeah a long time member, Previous sponsor, and semi post whore. Usualy always Tech related posts. I dont like the clutter on that board as of late.
bentfab: Here's a back half for the c-10 your considering?
Very nice looking.
andrewmp6: Why not a 73-87 c10 or a late model s10 or colorado.What about a g body there is a lot cars out there.
I have never been a fan of thet body style.
As for other cars I have looked at a few Dusters/Demons. The Pro Touring style is not real prelavent localy. I am looking to set a trend localy and open the shop up to future venues. Looking to expand my line of Fabrication work.
I am going to look at the 68 this weekend. It is local. Assuming my 02 Z28 sales as planned I will be picking something up for sure. Its a toss up righ now.
Josh, I may have to sell my 70 rs Camaro. It is a project car but it is also very complete and is in bare metal at this point. The current eng/trans are toast (really big paper wieghts). Like I said, I may have to sell it. I'll know for sure in the next week or two.
Radlark
03-20-2009, 04:49 AM
The 2nd gen gets my vote I think we already have enough 1st gens running around.
Josh@KYTP
03-20-2009, 10:05 AM
The 2nd gen gets my vote I think we already have enough 1st gens running around.
I agree. However the wife doesn't. She is all about the 68 Camaro. She doesnt like the 2nd Gens at all. She hated the 71 Split bumper I had before. I would really like to have her on board with this project. That way she doesnt freak out when she see 's the $$$$ I am gonna spend on it.
Has your wife checked out Dale JR/DSE 2nd gen?
http://www.detroitspeed.com/projectpages/dalejr/dalejr_main.htm
This car changed my mind about 2nd Gens
Josh@KYTP
03-20-2009, 01:10 PM
Has your wife checked out Dale JR/DSE 2nd gen?
http://www.detroitspeed.com/projectpages/dalejr/dalejr_main.htm
This car changed my mind about 2nd Gens
That is the car I showed her. She just dosent like them.
thedude327
03-20-2009, 02:29 PM
That is the car I showed her. She just dosent like them.
As a second gen owner and advocate, I'm going to say something here I never thought I'd say. Buy the 68 and keep your wife happy. It'd be cheaper than a divorce and losing your business..........;)
Paul
rocketman
03-20-2009, 03:49 PM
Well if you want to be like every other 67-69 camaro build one.
I would do the truck that just sounds cool. a 2nd gen camaro would be my next choice
Josh@KYTP
03-20-2009, 05:56 PM
As a second gen owner and advocate, I'm going to say something here I never thought I'd say. Buy the 68 and keep your wife happy. It'd be cheaper than a divorce and losing your business..........;)
Paul
I dont think it would lead to a divorce. :cheers:
Well if you want to be like every other 67-69 camaro build one.
That is my point. I would like to ease into building some cars for customers and for myself. Skill and ability is there. I just want a car that stands out and proves that you dont have to spend $75-100k on a car to make it cool.
Time will tell.
Josh@KYTP
03-21-2009, 11:12 AM
Well I sold the 2002 Z28 this morning. I am definatley buying a Project. The search begins.
Rybar
03-21-2009, 12:13 PM
Good luck project hunting. I think either the '68 or '70 would be awesome.
I'm guessing it will sport one of your turbo LSX motors?
Josh@KYTP
03-21-2009, 02:27 PM
Good luck project hunting. I think either the '68 or '70 would be awesome.
I'm guessing it will sport one of your turbo LSX motors?
Yeah most likley down the road... I have tossed around the Idea of a 383SBC engine with a 78mm and a TKO600 for for a lower budget approach. I am very fimailar with the in's and out's of fuel injecting the older engine combo's.
Josh@KYTP
03-21-2009, 09:58 PM
Search is over. Didnt last too long.
Deposit has been made on a rust free 1970 Camaro. Factory 350/4spd, A/C, California Car. It is rock solid. I scored a 396 BBC with the deal. The wife is happy trhat I only spent about half of what I had budgeted for the initial purchase.
As of right now the build is looking like the following:
1970 Camaro
396 BBC Fuel injected
TKO600 or T56
Moser 9" Housing
Speed Tech front Bolt on package.
Some type of 4 bar system in the rear.
Wilwood brakes all around
DSE mini tubs
I have a set of 17x9.5 and 17x11 Chrome ZR1 wheels for the time being if they will fit.
Engine will be built with a 9:1 compression ratio. It will see a Turbo eventually.
I will have pics as soon as I get the car home.
andrewmp6
03-22-2009, 09:23 PM
What about a ford i mean camaros are nice but being different can be fun too.
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