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Josh@KYTP
03-19-2009, 10:19 AM
I have finally decided to get out of the late model stuff in favor of getting back to where I started with old muscle. I am looking at building my first PT style build. Seeing as my dad wont let me touch his 71 Nova or 72 C10, I have to buy my own project.

I am looking at a 68 Camaro and a 71 Split Bumper Camaro. Both are in the same range as far as purchase price, Body work needed, and over all shape.
I have not ruled out a SWB 67-72 truck either. I really like PorterBuilts drop member and C5 suspension.

I guess I am looking for opinions on what platform is the best to start with. Around Bowling Green first gen Camaro’s are all over the place. The 70-73 Camaro’s are rarely seen.

I am not looking to set the world on fire with my first build. I am shooting for a good driver that has decent overall handling, braking, and power. I like to the looks of the old cars with the handling of the new cars. I have been spoiled by the typical 700rwhp LS1 Turbo cars I usually turn out of my shop.

Any tips, opinions, suggestions, and so forth are welcome. I am glad to be a part of the forum.

jy211
03-19-2009, 10:31 AM
I'd choose a second gen. Reason: I want to build one :D, plus I already have a first gen! :lol:

tones2SS
03-19-2009, 10:47 AM
Sounds good.
What shop do you work for?
An early model Camaro or a 68 Camaro would be awesome!!! Tons of info and good people here.:lateral: :thumbsup:

D Rock
03-19-2009, 10:54 AM
Its really personal preference as far as which body style you like better. First gens have a little more aftermarket support but you won't have a problem building a second gen either. I vote for the split bumper, id love to have one of those one day.

Josh@KYTP
03-19-2009, 11:35 AM
Sounds good.
What shop do you work for?
An early model Camaro or a 68 Camaro would be awesome!!! Tons of info and good people here.:lateral: :thumbsup:

I own my own turbo shop. Specializing in LS1 F-Bodies.

Just wanting to try something different.

Jr
03-19-2009, 11:38 AM
Josh,
Which car do you like? Both of the cars you listed have the potential to be sweet.

Keep up the good work.

Just so everyone knows:
Josh builds turbo systems for 98-02 camaro and 04-06 gto. He has a fantastic rep on LS1tech. Josh built a 800rwhp camaro with a tc76 turbo...WITH STOCK EXHAUST MANIFOLDS.


David

class67
03-19-2009, 11:41 AM
I'd choose a second gen. Reason: I want to build one :D, plus I already have a first gen! :lol:

X2...same here!

Go for the 2nd gen!

tones2SS
03-19-2009, 03:10 PM
I own my own turbo shop. Specializing in LS1 F-Bodies.

Just wanting to try something different.

That's cool. :thumbsup:
Are you a member of ls1tech.com as well?

bentfab
03-19-2009, 05:49 PM
Here's a back half for the c-10 your considering?

andrewmp6
03-19-2009, 08:00 PM
Why not a 73-87 c10 or a late model s10 or colorado.What about a g body there is a lot cars out there.

Spiffav8
03-19-2009, 08:51 PM
The 71 Split Bumper gets my vote. Not many of them have been given the treatment. It would be a lot fun to watch one come together here on the board....then again there all fun to watch.

:thumbsup:

Vegas69
03-19-2009, 09:19 PM
I'd go 2 gen as well. I have absolutely no regrets with my 69, but an early 70's Camaro was a possibility for a moment. Definitely not many now and even less then.

Josh@KYTP
03-19-2009, 10:07 PM
Josh,
Which car do you like? Both of the cars you listed have the potential to be sweet.

Keep up the good work.

Just so everyone knows:
Josh builds turbo systems for 98-02 camaro and 04-06 gto. He has a fantastic rep on LS1tech. Josh built a 800rwhp camaro with a tc76 turbo...WITH STOCK EXHAUST MANIFOLDS.


David

Thanks Man.


tones2SS Quote:
That's cool.
Are you a member of ls1tech.com as well?

Yeah a long time member, Previous sponsor, and semi post whore. Usualy always Tech related posts. I dont like the clutter on that board as of late.


bentfab: Here's a back half for the c-10 your considering?

Very nice looking.



andrewmp6: Why not a 73-87 c10 or a late model s10 or colorado.What about a g body there is a lot cars out there.

I have never been a fan of thet body style.

As for other cars I have looked at a few Dusters/Demons. The Pro Touring style is not real prelavent localy. I am looking to set a trend localy and open the shop up to future venues. Looking to expand my line of Fabrication work.

I am going to look at the 68 this weekend. It is local. Assuming my 02 Z28 sales as planned I will be picking something up for sure. Its a toss up righ now.

70rs
03-20-2009, 03:15 AM
Josh, I may have to sell my 70 rs Camaro. It is a project car but it is also very complete and is in bare metal at this point. The current eng/trans are toast (really big paper wieghts). Like I said, I may have to sell it. I'll know for sure in the next week or two.

Radlark
03-20-2009, 04:49 AM
The 2nd gen gets my vote I think we already have enough 1st gens running around.

Josh@KYTP
03-20-2009, 10:05 AM
The 2nd gen gets my vote I think we already have enough 1st gens running around.

I agree. However the wife doesn't. She is all about the 68 Camaro. She doesnt like the 2nd Gens at all. She hated the 71 Split bumper I had before. I would really like to have her on board with this project. That way she doesnt freak out when she see 's the $$$$ I am gonna spend on it.

Jr
03-20-2009, 10:45 AM
Has your wife checked out Dale JR/DSE 2nd gen?

http://www.detroitspeed.com/projectpages/dalejr/dalejr_main.htm

This car changed my mind about 2nd Gens

Josh@KYTP
03-20-2009, 01:10 PM
Has your wife checked out Dale JR/DSE 2nd gen?

http://www.detroitspeed.com/projectpages/dalejr/dalejr_main.htm

This car changed my mind about 2nd Gens

That is the car I showed her. She just dosent like them.

thedude327
03-20-2009, 02:29 PM
That is the car I showed her. She just dosent like them.

As a second gen owner and advocate, I'm going to say something here I never thought I'd say. Buy the 68 and keep your wife happy. It'd be cheaper than a divorce and losing your business..........;)

Paul

rocketman
03-20-2009, 03:49 PM
Well if you want to be like every other 67-69 camaro build one.

I would do the truck that just sounds cool. a 2nd gen camaro would be my next choice

Josh@KYTP
03-20-2009, 05:56 PM
As a second gen owner and advocate, I'm going to say something here I never thought I'd say. Buy the 68 and keep your wife happy. It'd be cheaper than a divorce and losing your business..........;)

Paul


I dont think it would lead to a divorce. :cheers:

Well if you want to be like every other 67-69 camaro build one.


That is my point. I would like to ease into building some cars for customers and for myself. Skill and ability is there. I just want a car that stands out and proves that you dont have to spend $75-100k on a car to make it cool.

Time will tell.

Josh@KYTP
03-21-2009, 11:12 AM
Well I sold the 2002 Z28 this morning. I am definatley buying a Project. The search begins.

Rybar
03-21-2009, 12:13 PM
Good luck project hunting. I think either the '68 or '70 would be awesome.

I'm guessing it will sport one of your turbo LSX motors?

Josh@KYTP
03-21-2009, 02:27 PM
Good luck project hunting. I think either the '68 or '70 would be awesome.

I'm guessing it will sport one of your turbo LSX motors?

Yeah most likley down the road... I have tossed around the Idea of a 383SBC engine with a 78mm and a TKO600 for for a lower budget approach. I am very fimailar with the in's and out's of fuel injecting the older engine combo's.

Josh@KYTP
03-21-2009, 09:58 PM
Search is over. Didnt last too long.

Deposit has been made on a rust free 1970 Camaro. Factory 350/4spd, A/C, California Car. It is rock solid. I scored a 396 BBC with the deal. The wife is happy trhat I only spent about half of what I had budgeted for the initial purchase.

As of right now the build is looking like the following:

1970 Camaro
396 BBC Fuel injected
TKO600 or T56
Moser 9" Housing
Speed Tech front Bolt on package.
Some type of 4 bar system in the rear.
Wilwood brakes all around
DSE mini tubs

I have a set of 17x9.5 and 17x11 Chrome ZR1 wheels for the time being if they will fit.

Engine will be built with a 9:1 compression ratio. It will see a Turbo eventually.

I will have pics as soon as I get the car home.

andrewmp6
03-22-2009, 09:23 PM
What about a ford i mean camaros are nice but being different can be fun too.