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scherp69
03-14-2009, 05:05 PM
Has anyone installed a Flaming River steering column into their car. I'm trying to mock mine up in my 68 Acadian (Nova) and the install kit they suggest doesn't come close to fitting. I took the stock mount off the stock column and might have to end up using it, but the only way to attach the bracket is to drill holes into the new column and run screws into it. If I knew they would hold that would be great, but that's a chance I'd rather not take. I've emailed Flaming River, but until I hear back from them, I thought I'd try here. I've attached some pics to show what I'm talking about. Any advice would be great. Thanks.

new steering column

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd68/scherp69/PICT0001-1.jpg

bracket that comes with the install kit

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd68/scherp69/flamingriverbracket.jpg

the bracket that came with install kit is supposed to fit in here, but it doesn't. As you can see from the next picture, the stock bracket has three holes in it and attaches to a fairly big piece under the dash. It isn't just as easy as taking out the stock bracket under the dash and putting the new one in.

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd68/scherp69/wherecolumngoes.jpg

stock steering column with stock bracket

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd68/scherp69/stocksteeringcolumnwithbracket.jpg

stock bracket off column

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd68/scherp69/stockbracketoffcolumn.jpg

DRJDVM's '69
03-14-2009, 05:58 PM
When I installed mine in my Cuda, I did have to mod the bracket alittle.... the holes didnt line up very well and the base flange was too wide to fit in the space I had. So I have to take a cut off wheel and file to my $60 brand new mount...always fun to hack on brand new stuff :)

I did talk to FR before I cut it, to see if I had other options, but there werent any. I considered trying to use the stock bracket too. I would call them rather than email..... much easier to talk directly about this stuff, than email back and forth...plus quicker...

So by the pix, I assume the "O" goes up into the "pocket" in your dash? Mine hung down, so the base width was the only issue for me. From the pix, I also assume that the issue is the "O" portion is too big to fit in the pocket?

Flaming River does have several different mount kits....have you looked at their website to see if any other will work?

If not, then you will either need to modify the new bracket to fit the opening or the opening to fit the bracket. Your choice....

xtremelky
03-14-2009, 08:08 PM
Has anyone installed a Flaming River steering column into their car. I'm trying to mock mine up in my 68 Acadian (Nova) and the install kit they suggest doesn't come close to fitting. I took the stock mount off the stock column and might have to end up using it, but the only way to attach the bracket is to drill holes into the new column and run screws into it. If I knew they would hold that would be great, but that's a chance I'd rather not take. I've emailed Flaming River, but until I hear back from them, I thought I'd try here. I've attached some pics to show what I'm talking about. Any advice would be great. Thanks.

new steering column

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd68/scherp69/PICT0001-1.jpg

bracket that comes with the install kit

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd68/scherp69/flamingriverbracket.jpg

the bracket that came with install kit is supposed to fit in here, but it doesn't. As you can see from the next picture, the stock bracket has three holes in it and attaches to a fairly big piece under the dash. It isn't just as easy as taking out the stock bracket under the dash and putting the new one in.

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd68/scherp69/wherecolumngoes.jpg

stock steering column with stock bracket

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd68/scherp69/stocksteeringcolumnwithbracket.jpg

stock bracket off column

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd68/scherp69/stockbracketoffcolumn.jpg

I have mounted three of these columns in mid sixties Abodys. I did not use any mounting hardware from FR. All done with GMs mounts w/some minor mods. I make a insulator sleeve from close cell foam for the under dash brkt. and machine a bushing for the firewall brkt. from aluminum. No problems and one has over 25,000 miles since the install. My brackets look nothing like the one from your Arcadia. Basically a u bracket that bolts to the lower end of the dash support rods.
Mike Holleman

98ssnova
03-14-2009, 09:51 PM
My bracket is only a U chanel 72 Nova. I would look to see if maybe you can get one like I have

scherp69
03-15-2009, 02:09 AM
My bracket is only a U chanel 72 Nova. I would look to see if maybe you can get one like I have

Do you by any chance have any pics or a part number of the bracket you have.

98ssnova
03-15-2009, 03:39 AM
let me look

98ssnova
03-15-2009, 04:43 AM
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If youneed something else email me mikess[at]sbcglobal[dot]net I didn't find a part number on it but my car is a 72 hopefully that helps

scherp69
03-15-2009, 03:14 PM
Thanks for posting that. If you were to cut the bottom portion on my bracket to lose the single bolt hole, they would be fairly similar. How did you attach your bracket to the new steering column?

98ssnova
03-15-2009, 03:25 PM
Mine is still on the stock column but I went back and looked at it and I would mod you bracket to be similar to mine it is attached by the four holes that go around the column it looks like they just welded nuts on to the column I think that would be better for you rather than screwing into the column. Hope that give you an idea. sorry if I miss led you

scherp69
03-16-2009, 04:42 PM
No worries. I got a response back from Flaming River. Looks like they now have a bracket that works with the stock set up. $40 so not too bad. Will be ordering that tonight. Unfortunately I'm left with a nice billet bracket. Guess I'll have to try and figure out somewhere to use it.

turbo67camaro
03-17-2009, 12:31 AM
What is the part number of that bracket from Flaming River?

I'm going to need that part soon too.

Don't feel bad, I'm in the same situation as you. I have one of those brackets that the builder who did much of the work on my car sent me home with. Problem is, he didn't even buy / sell me the bracket with the correct diameter hole (was 1 3/4" should have been 2" for the 2" column), let alone one that would properly work even if it was the correct size hole.

scherp69
03-17-2009, 10:01 AM
What is the part number of that bracket from Flaming River?

I'm going to need that part soon too.

Don't feel bad, I'm in the same situation as you. I have one of those brackets that the builder who did much of the work on my car sent me home with. Problem is, he didn't even buy / sell me the bracket with the correct diameter hole (was 1 3/4" should have been 2" for the 2" column), let alone one that would properly work even if it was the correct size hole.

The part number they gave me is FR20300. If you go on Summit, they have a proper picture of the new bracket. I saw an install in one of the magazines using the bracket. Seems like it works properly.

Payton King
03-17-2009, 01:59 PM
First gen Camaros and 68-72 Novas are the same. The billet mount and column looks exacly like what I put in my 69 Camaro. I would not think that you need to be concerned with the 3 mounting point.

Glad they have the bracket to get you going.

scherp69
03-17-2009, 02:53 PM
First gen Camaros and 68-72 Novas are the same. The billet mount and column looks exacly like what I put in my 69 Camaro. I would not think that you need to be concerned with the 3 mounting point.

Glad they have the bracket to get you going.

Do you have any pics of how you mounted yours?

AJSZR2326
03-18-2009, 10:41 AM
dont feel bad my first one i got from them was too short (68 camaro) when tilted up it hit the dash, the second one 36" was broke when it arrived wouldnt lock in 2nd & 3rd position, sent it back got a new one still loose in 2nd 3rd position, finally gave up and got another mfg