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TOM NELSON
03-06-2009, 05:23 PM
Well i'm going to try something i have never done before .With the economy the way it is and everybody be down on dough i'm going see if all the touring guys out there would be interested in a group purchase.In doing this i can greatly reduce the cost of these engines .I have an incredible engine weve been working on lately its a 376 cube all aluminum ls3 Twin turbo intercooled injected killer.This combination will make 800hp on pump gas and is as tame as anything you've ever driven but will scare you when you hit the pedal.This is not a crate engine with turbos bolted on its complete build from us.Its also a complete package including management,ignition wiring,some of our stainless headers,etc including dynoing it.We have drop in kits for 69 camaro chevelles and g bodys.What I'm offering is if you can group 3 engines in a sale i can offer this entire package at 19995.00.I fiqure its a way for everybody to win at a time like this if you were thinking about a purchase of this sort .Thanks Tom Nelson www.nelsonracingengines.com http://nelsonracingengines.com/09photoshoot/ls3/3.jpg818-998-5593

TOM NELSON
03-06-2009, 05:25 PM
http://nelsonracingengines.com/09photoshoot/ls3/1.jpg

TOM NELSON
03-06-2009, 05:27 PM
http://nelsonracingengines.com/09photoshoot/ls3/2.jpg

TOM NELSON
03-06-2009, 05:29 PM
http://nelsonracingengines.com/09photoshoot/ls3/4.jpg

TOM NELSON
03-06-2009, 05:30 PM
http://nelsonracingengines.com/09photoshoot/ls3/5.jpg

TOM NELSON
03-06-2009, 05:32 PM
http://nelsonracingengines.com/09photoshoot/ls3/6.jpg

camcojb
03-06-2009, 06:17 PM
that's a great deal for that parts list. Nothing but top-notch pieces, hopefully people will take you up on the offer. :thumbsup:

Jody

Stuart Adams
03-06-2009, 06:49 PM
That is fantastic. Incredible pricing and I'm sure the performance is great.

JamesJ
03-06-2009, 08:52 PM
Would you do one without the turbos? If so what would power come in around (pump gas)

deuce_454
03-07-2009, 08:43 AM
i want one... now if somone would just buy my 32 roadster id have the cash :-)

seriously: Are they dynoed individually.. we have 95 octane on pump here...

ItDoRun
03-07-2009, 09:07 AM
I wish I was rich.

Speedster
03-07-2009, 10:22 AM
Tom -

sick, sick, sick...

You must have read my mind. Remember what I asked you last time I was at your shop? I will take one for the new car. The car will be one of the first ones in Florida and is supposed to be here within 3 weeks.

Also, if you can use some of your horsepower charm (lol) we should be able to convince Mark to get one for his Impala SS. We are going to be back out by your place in a month or so, so if there is anyway you can give him a copilot ride in one of you TT vehicles, I think it would be a sale. That would be 2 sold. Whaddya think ?

- Bruce

tones2SS
03-07-2009, 10:40 AM
WOW!!! You guys are TOP-NOTCH!! If I had my 69 Camaro, I would be putting a deposit on one right now. That is a KILLER price.
When you say pump gas, what octane are you referring to? I have 91 in my area.
Keep up the great work.:thumbsup:

TOM NELSON
03-07-2009, 03:14 PM
i want one... now if somone would just buy my 32 roadster id have the cash :-)

seriously: Are they dynoed individually.. we have 95 octane on pump here...

Yes every engine is individually dynoed we rate the engine with 91 octane

TOM NELSON
03-07-2009, 03:15 PM
WOW!!! You guys are TOP-NOTCH!! If I had my 69 Camaro, I would be putting a deposit on one right now. That is a KILLER price.
When you say pump gas, what octane are you referring to? I have 91 in my area.
Keep up the great work.:thumbsup:

thanks ffor the good words 91 is what its run on

TOM NELSON
03-07-2009, 03:22 PM
Tom -

sick, sick, sick...

You must have read my mind. Remember what I asked you last time I was at your shop? I will take one for the new car. The car will be one of the first ones in Florida and is supposed to be here within 3 weeks.

Also, if you can use some of your horsepower charm (lol) we should be able to convince Mark to get one for his Impala SS. We are going to be back out by your place in a month or so, so if there is anyway you can give him a copilot ride in one of you TT vehicles, I think it would be a sale. That would be 2 sold. Whaddya think ?

- Bruce
Sounds good i would love to do it for you guys i left you a pm

TOM NELSON
03-07-2009, 03:26 PM
Would you do one without the turbos? If so what would power come in around (pump gas) we sell a 530 hp 376 na on pump

TOM NELSON
03-07-2009, 03:27 PM
that's a great deal for that parts list. Nothing but top-notch pieces, hopefully people will take you up on the offer. :thumbsup:

Jody
thanks jody

TOM NELSON
03-07-2009, 03:28 PM
That is fantastic. Incredible pricing and I'm sure the performance is great.

thanks Stuart

Bowtieracing
03-07-2009, 10:54 PM
Amazing deal Tom!!!! Thats same price as Katech torquer with way more power and extras :wow: !!

Diognes56
03-07-2009, 11:50 PM
Makes me wish I had a better paying job :yes: .

David

BBC69Camaro
03-08-2009, 10:45 AM
Some day :unibrow:

Datsbad
03-09-2009, 07:00 AM
Tom , Is this a ready to run engine?
What engine management will come with it ?


I would also like to know how soon after I pay would I receive the engine?
Could you email me a COMPLETE list of internals, and all parts ?
[email protected]

TOM NELSON
03-09-2009, 04:47 PM
Heres the link to the breakdown http://nelsonracingengines.com/new_engine_lsx.htm

groovyjay
03-10-2009, 07:25 AM
I thought it was against the forum rules to post pornographic material... :rofl:

http://nelsonracingengines.com/09photoshoot/ls3/4.jpg

I need to re-check my piggy-bank to see if there's been a HUGE change since I had a peek 5 minutes ago... :thumbsup:

Steve Chryssos
03-10-2009, 09:35 AM
Is that complete as shown? with polished sheetmetal intake, accessories, pan, valve covers. What is delivery time frame from time of order? This will be our first turbo install. Can you walk us thru intercooler and other related purchases? Can you supply a comprehensive EFI map with part throttle, cold start, etc. or is it just WOT dyno map. App is 3000 lb 68 Camaro.

Speedster
03-10-2009, 10:45 AM
Is that complete as shown? with polished sheetmetal intake, accessories, pan, valve covers. What is delivery time frame from time of order? This will be our first turbo install. Can you walk us thru intercooler and other related purchases? Can you supply a comprehensive EFI map with part throttle, cold start, etc. or is it just WOT dyno map. App is 3000 lb 68 Camaro.


Oh Steevo -

You horsepower whore !!!
Geez, what 3000 lb, 68 Camaro could that be?

Cool stuff.

Jr
03-10-2009, 10:47 AM
Oh Steevo -

You horsepower whore !!!
Geez, what 3000 lb, 68 Camaro could that be?

Cool stuff.

X2

Give up the goods, Steve.

Steve Chryssos
03-10-2009, 11:18 AM
There's a new car in the works, but we don't like to give details this early in the process. We'll spill the beans in 90 to 120 days once it's a roller.

Speedster
03-10-2009, 12:04 PM
There's a new car in the works, but we don't like to give details this early in the process. We'll spill the beans in 90 to 120 days once it's a roller.

Fair Enough...
Show us when you can.

TOM NELSON
03-10-2009, 03:54 PM
Is that complete as shown? with polished sheetmetal intake, accessories, pan, valve covers. What is delivery time frame from time of order? This will be our first turbo install. Can you walk us thru intercooler and other related purchases? Can you supply a comprehensive EFI map with part throttle, cold start, etc. or is it just WOT dyno map. App is 3000 lb 68 Camaro.

No The accesories,sheetmetal intake and polish are extra.But i can offer you the same deal as bruce for 1400 extra i'll throw in the intake acc are another 1300 its a f-body drive setup and the polish would be around 800 if you wanted to go that route so 23500.00 would get you it just like you see it but its a all aluminum block and heads the shot is with a iron block.Delivery time is 2.5 months from time of order.I would be glad to walk you threw any part of it.The map i do on the dyno is wide open then from there we have a mapping feature on the dyno were we run 10%tps up to 6300 rpm adjust all the afrs then 20 % adjust afrs then 30/40/50 and so on so the base map will be very nice.But there are so cold start and light load accerations you simply can't get on a dyno that has to be done in the car.If the cars an auto it probally won't need any tweeking.Stick cars with light flywheels may take some adjusting.There would be mutiple ways to accomplish this.The software is very easy its Electromotive newest version a total remake from the previous 3.56 So i can walk you threw that on the phone when your ready,Or if you don't want to deal with it you could always ship the car when ready and i'll do that for you here.Shipping is very affordable these days averaging around 1k one way from pretty much anywhere.But it's pretty simple.The changes can be made on fly and the ve table is highlighted in what cell your running so you can drive the car and instantly see whats happening.Thats the beauty of this package is it has a nice stand alone unit that comes with it.If you have any other questions i would be glad to answer them thanks Tom.

badmatt
03-11-2009, 02:43 AM
im about this........ |________| close to calling you and and my bank.

Steve Chryssos
03-11-2009, 07:27 AM
......If you have any other questions i would be glad to answer them thanks Tom.

Thanks. I'll call you later.

clill
03-11-2009, 08:19 AM
So is the engine pictured at the beginning of this ad 19,995.00 or 23,500.00 ?

Steve Chryssos
03-11-2009, 09:11 AM
$23500. Stop doodling in your notebook, put down that car magazine, and pay attention to the teacher or you'll be sent to detention.

19,995 +1,400 + 1,300 + 800 = picture. Carry the two.

Steve Chryssos
03-11-2009, 09:12 AM
Sorry actually 23,495

JamesJ
03-11-2009, 09:48 AM
... and the one in the first picture has a steel block, the one you get has an aluminum.....

Speedster
03-11-2009, 11:15 AM
... make sure you ask for a T-Shirt with your engine. Tom is tight with those shirts, but he'll give it up for a motor...:willy:

ChevyThunder
03-13-2009, 02:59 AM
I am interested !

TOM NELSON
03-20-2009, 09:29 AM
Well This was the first time i ever offered a group purchase on engines and i think it worked out great I'm happy to say that i sold the three engines needed and will be able to provide the engines for 19995.00.The coolest thing about this was this was posted on many other boards but all three sales came from lateral-g members.And all three customers took the savings of 6000 dollars per engine and upgraded into bomb proof bottom ends all three guys got the Lsx iron gm block upgrade,Oliver billet rods,Callies crankshaft.And are going into my new billet crossram Ir intake manifold for the ls And they are still under the original price price of 26000.00.I'm going to do a full build pics threw the entire process including dynoing and video for everyone so you guys can see what goes into it.Just wanted to say thanks and i'll keep you updated as we go there still is probally another week for any of you who might have been interested to get in on this run and get the savings Talk to you soon Tom

customcam
03-20-2009, 04:36 PM
How cool is that! Tom cant wait too see the process Thank you

camcojb
03-21-2009, 02:32 PM
Well This was the first time i ever offered a group purchase on engines and i think it worked out great I'm happy to say that i sold the three engines needed and will be able to provide the engines for 19995.00.The coolest thing about this was this was posted on many other boards but all three sales came from lateral-g members.And all three customers took the savings of 6000 dollars per engine and upgraded into bomb proof bottom ends all three guys got the Lsx iron gm block upgrade,Oliver billet rods,Callies crankshaft.And are going into my new billet crossram Ir intake manifold for the ls And they are still under the original price price of 26000.00.I'm going to do a full build pics threw the entire process including dynoing and video for everyone so you guys can see what goes into it.Just wanted to say thanks and i'll keep you updated as we go there still is probally another week for any of you who might have been interested to get in on this run and get the savings Talk to you soon Tom

that's great news Tom, glad the members took advantage of the deal.

Jody

mazspeed
03-21-2009, 02:42 PM
Is upgrading the right word with going with the iron block? I am curious how much the ls3 al block can handle power wise??

Datsbad
03-22-2009, 01:48 PM
Is upgrading the right word with going with the iron block? I am curious how much the ls3 al block can handle power wise??


Most definately a upgrade.
The LSX block is superior to all the other blocks made.
6 Bolts per cylinder for the heads will greatly aid in clamping force as the LS motors are know to push water .

mazspeed
03-22-2009, 02:52 PM
Most definately a upgrade.
The LSX block is superior to all the other blocks made.
6 Bolts per cylinder for the heads will greatly aid in clamping force as the LS motors are know to push water .

I thought the LS3 also had a 6 bolt head design. Isn't the LS3 block stronger then the LS2? The LSX block is also much heaver though, so why would you want the iron block if you were looking for 800 hp or so? Again I don't know so that's why I ask.

Datsbad
03-22-2009, 02:56 PM
I thought the LS3 also had a 6 bolt head design. Isn't the LS3 block stronger then the LS2? The LSX block is also much heaver though, so why would you want the iron block if you were looking for 800 hp or so? Again I don't know so that's why I ask.


Only gm block with 6 bolt is the LSX iron block . It is 100 lbs heavier.
Ls2 and LS3 block are most likely about the same for power capabilties.

mazspeed
03-22-2009, 02:57 PM
Only gm block with 6 bolt is the LSX iron block . It is 100 lbs heavier.
Ls2 and LS3 block are most likely about the same for power capabilties.

Gotcha.
I did think the LS7 was a 6 bolt?

mazspeed
03-22-2009, 11:18 PM
No, the LS7 block is weaker than LS2/LS3 blocks. Although, in pro-touring car do you need more than 1200 hp? Also, the LS2,LS3, and LS7 blocks allow you run Katech Piston Oil squirters. Something that you might want to include on your next supercharged/turbo build.

Jeff

http://www.kodakgallery.com/67rscamaro

Yeah no one needs 1200hp. Not for a PT car anyways. I do like your motor though. That looks bad ass. Did you ever get dyno numbers on that, and who built it?

TOM NELSON
03-23-2009, 08:47 AM
These guys went this route to basically bomb proof the bottom ends The l2/ls3/ls7 all only have four bolts per cyl head but thats not why i upgraded them if you were only going to run 800 hp the factory block is good but beyond that you get into problems of spliting the sleeves and the material behind the sleeves,and after talking to everyone who bought one one guy is running Maxon the other two are natural born nuts .And with this motor the only reason its rated at 800 hp is because of the block ,crank rod combo.with the block crank and rod upgrade the motor makes over 1300hp.After all the horsepower is just a turn of a knob away so everyone felt more secure this way.Plus it will allow me to ring it out for everyone to see what they have in them.But the block is heavier but i think everyone could live with that.

mazspeed
03-23-2009, 09:29 AM
Thanks for that Tom. :D

Speedster
03-23-2009, 11:28 AM
.. the only reason its rated at 800 hp is because of the block ,crank rod combo.with the block crank and rod upgrade the motor makes over 1300hp...But the block is heavier but i think everyone could live with that.

Let's see add 100 lbs, gain 500 hp. You'd be hard pressed to find a better tradeoff anywhere...

Maxton sounds good for this type of build. This setup would also be nice in a car running the Silver State Classic...

Bowtieracing
03-23-2009, 01:53 PM
No, the LS7 block is weaker than LS2/LS3 blocks.

Really ? How ? Where ?

Nvrenuf
04-04-2009, 11:42 AM
Just curious Tom... I know you sold three. Are there more available, or no?

Speedster
04-04-2009, 02:43 PM
Just curious Tom... I know you sold three. Are there more available, or no?

I am sure you could get one. Tom needed a minimum of 3, but I do believe he ordered enough for 5. PM him on here. Most days, it is impossible to get to him by phone. PM me if you can't get a hold of him.

TreySmith
04-04-2009, 06:17 PM
Really ? How ? Where ? I heard that before too. BS? Idk, some guy said they didn't hold boost as well.

WSSix
04-04-2009, 07:52 PM
Really ? How ? Where ?

The sleeves of the LS7 block take out so much material out of the block itself. GM even says the LS7 is not deigned to handle boost which is why they put a blown LS3 under the hood of the ZR1. They added some more doodads and changed a couple more parts and called it an LS9. It's a fancied up LS3 at it's core though. The ZR1 is only running 10 psi too and GM wouldn't let the LS7 be used because of long term durability.

TOM NELSON
04-07-2009, 09:12 AM
Just curious Tom... I know you sold three. Are there more available, or no?

Yes i ordered enough for 7 i have 6 sold so there is one more available at this price.As soon as the LSx blocks arrive which is taking forever i will start doing a really nice detailed build with pics for everyone.

rwhite692
04-12-2009, 11:17 AM
Tom, Just got caught up on this thread....You're doing God's work, son.

Bowtieracing
04-12-2009, 11:02 PM
The sleeves of the LS7 block take out so much material out of the block itself. GM even says the LS7 is not deigned to handle boost which is why they put a blown LS3 under the hood of the ZR1. They added some more doodads and changed a couple more parts and called it an LS9. It's a fancied up LS3 at it's core though. The ZR1 is only running 10 psi too and GM wouldn't let the LS7 be used because of long term durability.

Thanks,this makes sense to me .

Bowtieracing
04-12-2009, 11:04 PM
Yes i ordered enough for 7 i have 6 sold so there is one more available at this price.As soon as the LSx blocks arrive which is taking forever i will start doing a really nice detailed build with pics for everyone.

Cant wait to get see this build Tom !!