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jy211
02-26-2009, 08:36 AM
Blair Holt Firearm Licensing
& Record of Sale Act
2-16-9


Very Important for you to be aware of a new bill HR 45 introduced into the
House.

This is the Blair Holt Firearm Licensing & Record of Sale Act of 2009.

We just learned yesterday about this on the Peter Boyles radio program.

Even gun shop owners didn't know about this because it is flying under the
radar.

To find out about this - go to any government website and type in HR 45 or
Google HR 45 Blair Holt Firearm Licensing & Record of Sales Act of 2009.
You
will get all the information.

Basically this would make it illegal to own a firearm - any rifle with a
clip or ANY pistol unle ss:

.It is registered

.You are fingerprinted

.You supply a current Driver's License

.You supply your Social Security #

.You will submit to a physical & mental evaluation at any time of their
choosing

.Each update - change or ownership through private or public sale must be
reported and costs $25 - Failure to do so you automatically lose the right
to own a firearm and are subject up to a year in jail.

.There is a child provision clause on page 16 section 305 stating a
child-access provision. Gun must be locked and inaccessible to any child
under 18.

They would have the right to come and inspect that you are storing your gun
safel y away from accessibility to children and fine is punishable for up to
5 yrs. in prison.

If you think this is a joke - go to the website and take your pick of many
options to read this. It is long and lengthy. But, more and more people are
becoming aware of this. Pass the word along. Any hunters in your family -
pass this along.

Peter Boyles is on this and having guests. Listen to him on K.H.O.W. 6:30
a.m. in the morning. He suggests the best way to fight this is to tell all
your friends about it and "spring into action". Also he suggests we
all join
a pro-gun group like the Colorado Rifle Association, hunting associations,
gun clubs and especially the NRA.

This is just a "termite" approach to complete confiscation of guns
and
disarming of our society to the point we have no defense - chip away a
little here and there until the goal is accomplished before anyone realizes
it.

This is one to act on whether y ou own a gun or not.

If you take my gun, only the criminal will have one to use against me. HR 45
only makes me/us less safe. After working with convicts for 26 years I know
this bill, if passed, would make them happy and in less danger from their
victims.

<http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R..45>
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.45:

<http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h45/show>
http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h45/show

<http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-45>
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-45

Please.. copy and send this out to EVERYONE in the USA

More On Gun Grab HR 45 Here...


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jonny51
02-26-2009, 09:19 AM
Thanks for the info......man things are going south in a hurry.

jcal87
02-26-2009, 09:48 AM
bush would have never let this happen:lol:

the camtender
02-26-2009, 09:52 AM
Yea, our newly elected officals will do everything possible to hurry/ slip this type of crap through. THANKS PEOPLE !!!

jcal87
02-26-2009, 10:03 AM
Impeach:thumbsup:

RaceMan
02-26-2009, 10:13 AM
Yea, our newly elected officals will do everything possible to hurry/ slip this type of crap through. THANKS PEOPLE !!!

That's the truth for sure !!!!! and they'll keep trying !!! :willy:

-Freak-
02-26-2009, 10:43 AM
I will never let the government decide if I have the right to protect my family.
It is a right we are all born with and should never be in question.

I've often been asked "why I need guns when there are police".
I return the question with. "Why do you need a fire extinguisher if there are firemen"?

The incident will be long over with by the time either the PD or FD show up and someone could have prevented or protected instead of being a victim.

Molon Labe.

Mick Mc
02-26-2009, 01:51 PM
I looked up my representative and sent him an email saying I was against the bill.

Maybe everyone should do the same before they pass another law that no one has read or that not enough people called or wrote their congress person to voice their opinion about.





Mick

buds87gn
02-26-2009, 04:17 PM
Honestly! how many gang-bangers or hard core criminals buy guns legally? when will they freaking realize this. These bills only make it harder for the honest law abiding citizens to buy guns...

jonny51
02-26-2009, 07:40 PM
From nraila.com


Big Brother's New Target: Tracking Firearms

Friday, January 23, 2009

U.S. Representative Bobby Rush (D-Ill.) recently sponsored H.R. 45, also known as "Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act." The bill is, at its core and as its name implies, a licensing and registration scheme.

The measure calls for all handgun owners to submit to the federal government an application that shall include, among many other things: a photo; an address; a thumbprint; a completed, written firearm safety test; private mental health records; and a fee. And those are only some of the requirements to be licensed!

The bill would further require the attorney general to establish a database of every handgun sale, transfer, and owner's address in America. Moreover, the bill would make it illegal to own or possess a "qualifying firearm" -- defined as "any handgun; or any semiautomatic firearm that can accept any detachable ammunition feeding device…" [emphasis added] without one of the proposed licenses.

Additionally, the bill would make it illegal to transfer ownership of a "qualifying firearm" to anyone who is not a licensed gun dealer or collector (with very few exceptions), and would require "qualifying firearm" owners to report all transfers to the attorney general's database. It would also be illegal for a licensed gun owner to fail to record a gun loss or theft within 72 hours, or fail to report a change of address within 60 days. Further, if a minor obtains a firearm and injures someone with it, the owner of the firearm may face a multiple-year jail sentence.

H.R. 45 is essentially a reintroduction of H.R. 2666, which Rush introduced in 2007. H.R. 2666 contained much of the same language as H.R. 45, and was co-sponsored by several well-known anti-gun legislators--including Barack Obama's chief of staff, Rahm Emanuel. H.R. 45 currently has no co-sponsors.

Rest assured that NRA-ILA will continue to monitor this bill closely, and will keep you informed of any developments if they materialize.

COYBILT
02-27-2009, 01:49 AM
:mad:
Well another policy made by the FUR (Obama)

silverz28
02-27-2009, 05:13 AM
School Safety
Less than 1% of all homicides among school-aged children (5-19 years of age) occur in or around school grounds or on the way to and from school. (Centers for Disease Control, 1997)

Children and Gun Violence
In a single year, 3,012 children and teens were killed by gunfire in the United States, according to the latest national data released in 2002. That is one child every three hours; eight children every day; and more than 50 children every week. And every year, at least 4 to 5 times as many kids and teens suffer from non-fatal firearm injuries. (Children's Defense Fund and National Center for Health Statistics)

America and Gun Violence
American children are more at risk from firearms than the children of any other industrialized nation. In one year, firearms killed no children in Japan, 19 in Great Britain, 57 in Germany, 109 in France, 153 in Canada, and 5,285 in the United States. (Centers for Disease Control)

Guns in the Wrong Hands
Faulty records enable terrorists, illegal aliens and criminals to purchase guns. Over a two and a half-year period, at least 9,976 convicted felons and other illegal buyers in 46 states obtained guns because of inadequate records. (Broken Records, Americans for Gun Safety Foundation)

School Safety

Between 1994 and 1999, there were 220 school associated violent events resulting in 253 deaths - - 74.5% of these involved firearms. Handguns caused almost 60% of these deaths. (Journal of American Medical Association, December 2001)
In 1998-99 academic year, 3,523 students were expelled for bringing a firearm to school. This is a decrease from the 5,724 students expelled in 1996-97 for bringing a firearm to school. (U.S. Department of Education, October 2000)
Nearly 8% of adolescents in urban junior and senior high schools miss at least one day of school each month because they are afraid to attend. (National Mental Health & Education Center for Children & Families, National Association of School Psychologists 1998)
The National School Boards Association estimates that more than 135,000 guns are brought into U.S. schools each day. (NSBA, 1993)

Children and Gun Violence

America is losing too many children to gun violence. Between 1979 and 2001, gunfire killed 90,000 children and teens in America. (Children's Defense Fund and National Center for Health Statistics)
In one year, more children and teens died from gunfire than from cancer, pneumonia, influenza, asthma, and HIV/AIDS combined. (Children's Defense Fund)
The rate of firearm deaths among kids under age 15 is almost 12 times higher in the United States than in 25 other industrialized countries combined. (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention)
America and Gun Violence

Every day, more than 80 Americans die from gun violence. (Coalition to Stop Gun Violence)
The rate of firearm deaths among kids under age 15 is almost 12 times higher in the United States than in 25 other industrialized countries combined. (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention)
American kids are 16 times more likely to be murdered with a gun, 11 times more likely to commit suicide with a gun, and nine times more likely to die from a firearm accident than children in 25 other industrialized countries combined. (Centers for Disease Control)
Guns in the Wrong Hands

Americans for Gun Safety produced a 2003 report that reveals that 20 of the nation’s 22 national gun laws are not enforced. According to U.S. Department of Justice data (FY 2000-2002), only 2% of federal gun crimes were actually prosecuted. Eighty-five percent of cases prosecuted relate to street criminals in possession of firearms. Ignored are laws intended to punish illegal gun trafficking, firearm theft, corrupt gun dealers, lying on a criminal background check form, obliterating firearm serial numbers, selling guns to minors and possessing a gun in a school zone. To access The Enforcement Gap: Federal Gun Laws Ignored, visit http://w3.agsfoundation.com/. For a state-by-state chart of gun crimes (FY 2000-2002), click here.
Studies show that 1 percent of gun stores sell the weapons traced to 57 percent of gun crimes. According to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF), the dealer that armed the DC area sniper is among this small group of problem gun dealers that "supply the suppliers" who funnel guns to the nation's criminals. (Between 1997 and 2001, guns sold by this dealer were involved in 52 crimes, including homicides, kidnappings and assaults. Still open today, it also can't account for 238 guns or say whether they were stolen, lost or sold, or if their buyers underwent felony-background checks.) As a result, these few gun dealers have a vastly disproportionate impact on public safety. The ATF can recognize such dealers based on: (1) guns stolen from inventory; (2) missing federal sales records, needed by police to solve crimes; (3) having 10 weapons a year traced to crimes; (4) frequently selling multiple guns to individual buyers; and (5) short times between gun sales and their involvement in crimes. Yet ATF enforcement is weak due to a lack of Congressional support and resources. For more details, click here.
Terrorists have purchased firearms at gun shows, where unlicensed sellers are not currently required to conduct background checks or to ask for identification. According to the Middle East Intelligence Report, for example, a Hezbollah member was arrested in November 2000, after a nine-month investigation by the FBI's counter-terrorism unit. Ali Boumelhem was later convicted on seven counts of weapons charges and conspiracy to ship weapons and ammunition to Lebanon. Federal agents had observed Boumelhem, a resident of Detroit and Beirut, travel to Michigan gun shows and buy gun parts and ammunition for shipment overseas. Boumelhem was prohibited from legally purchasing guns as gun stores because he was a convicted felon. Additional cases involve a Pakistani national with an expired (1988) student visa; a Lebanese native and Hamas member with numerous felony convictions; and a supporter of the Irish Republican Army. (USA Today, Wednesday, November 28, 2001 Americans for Gun Safety)
According to Americans for Gun Safety (December 2002), gun theft is most likely in states without laws requiring safe storage of firearms in the home and where there are large numbers of gun owners and relatively high crime rates. Based on FBI data, nearly 1.7 million guns have been reported stolen in the past ten years, and only 40% of those were recovered. The missing guns, over 80% of which are taken from homes or cars, most likely fuel the black market for criminals. NEA, AGS and the National Rifle Association advocate for safe storage. To access "Stolen Guns: Arming the Enemy" visit www.agsfoundation.com.
The American Medical Association reports that between 36% and 50% of male eleventh graders believe that they could easily get a gun if they wanted one.
In 1998-99 academic year, 3,523 students were expelled for bringing a firearm to school. This is a decrease from the 5,724 students expelled in 1996-97 for bringing a firearm to school. (U.S. Department of Education, October 2000)
According to a report by the Joshephson Institute of Ethics (2000 Report Card: Report #1), 60% of high school and 31% of middle school boys said they could get a gun if they wanted to (April, 2001).

almcbri
02-27-2009, 05:28 AM
Yea, our newly elected officals will do everything possible to hurry/ slip this type of crap through. THANKS PEOPLE !!!

agreed!

Obama sucks. thanks :thumbsup:

ItDoRun
02-27-2009, 06:41 AM
What's next? Are we gonna have to get registered through the Federal government to buy a set of steak knives at Wal-Mart? Criminals are criminals. If you take guns off the street, they're still gonna kill using other techniques.

The problem is NOT the guns, it's the idiot behind the trigger who didn't get his butt beat enough when he was a kid (a.k.a. DISCIPLINE). Instead we have parents who don't discipline their children and the children grow up to be thugs because that's all they know. Look at our school sytems. A principal can't even discipline a child at school with a good ole fashioned beating with a wooden paddle! Better yet, they can't even correct them verbally b/c some lawyer will intervene!

This country is getting ridiculous and most people are too ignorant to see what's happening right in front of their faces! I hope his supporters get ALL the "change" they wanted! I just hope this stuff can be reversed 4 years from now.

Spiffav8
02-27-2009, 11:13 AM
Yea, our newly elected officals will do everything possible to hurry/ slip this type of crap through. THANKS PEOPLE !!!

This is very true. With the support of our new President the Democrats are hopping to get a lot of things passed that haven't been supported in the past. It seems obvious that they feel it's their time. It's a poor solution to an old problem. Maybe they should use some of that stimulus money set as side for education to educate people on firearm safety.

The real issue is not more laws to control guns. It's cleaning up a broken system that doesn't work against crimes committed by criminals with guns. Prosecutors only go after what is quick and easy. Things like this have helped teach those who commit violent crimes that our legal system is soft and that punishment isn't really that harsh.

svp
02-28-2009, 02:12 PM
Another ridiculous piece of legislation....with more to come I am sure. The other one upcoming is bringing back the "Assault weapons ban" that was proven to not work under Clinton.

They should enforce the laws we already have but these worthless politicians come up with more so it "appears" as if they are doing something. The whole lot of them needs to be removed from office and replaced!


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