Opinions on Kandy paints?

[Kris Horton]

Hey folks, there's a possibility that we will be getting the Chevelle repainted for SEMA and House of Kolors will be supplying the materials. While I was going over colors with my painter last night, I came to the Kandy page and was really drawn to a bright Kandy Apple red over a silver base. It's not too flashy and a very beautiful color. I just wanted to see what you guys think of Kandy colors. I'm talking about the translucent colors over colored or metallic basecoats, and not the heavily flaked paints.

All opinions are welcome...I haven't called in the order yet!

Kris

p.s. The paint scheme will be similar just improved, our main goal is to have a much straighter body this time around.

[TravisB]

Hey folks, there's a possibility that we will be getting the Chevelle repainted for SEMA and House of Kolors will be supplying the materials. While I was going over colors with my painter last night, I came to the Kandy page and was really drawn to a bright Kandy Apple red over a silver base. It's not too flashy and a very beautiful color. I just wanted to see what you guys think of Kandy colors. I'm talking about the translucent colors over colored or metallic basecoats, and not the heavily flaked paints.

All opinions are welcome...I haven't called in the order yet!

Kris

p.s. The paint scheme will be similar just improved, our main goal is to have a much straighter body this time around.

Kris,

Kandy's are very very nice when done properly it is not very often you find a really really good kandy paint job and when you do there is usually a crowd around it! They are so transparent they hard to spray....if your guy can do it, I say go for it! are you still going to run the silver tribal design to break up the two tone?

[Autokraft]

Kris,

Although Kandies are very eye appealing (I like em alot) the repairability is very difficult if not impossible most of the time.(tri-coats) If you ever chip it or scratch it you will be bummed. Talk to your painter about any future touch up jobs and get his thoughts on that as well.

BTW, congrats on your magazine coverage. That Chevelle is sweet!!

Kurt

www.autokraft.org

[Rybar]

Mine is candy red with a silver base and I love it. Take a look at my pics.

The pics don't do it alot of justice, it's very eye-catching out in the sun.

I'd highly recommend it, however be careful if you ever scratch it or damage anything.... good luck matching it.

[Kris Horton]

I still plan on doing a silver tribal design, but this time a professional artist is going to do the masking and flame design, and not some guy that gets called in from time to time to do flames. The flames on my car now were WAY off from my original design.

The painter has already offered a lifetime guarantee on the work, so he said not to freak out if it gets chipped, scuffed, etc.

I should know by the end of the weekend if we are going to be able to do it.

Kris

[Musclerodz]

Lifetime garuntee on a KANDY JOB???? That is some balls. I talked with HOK back in the spring and they have come out with a kandy base which is suppose to be easier to shoot than the kandy clears. The red I have always wanted to paint my car was to look like it was anodized and cleared. It would look wicked, but I would be scared of chipping it. I say go for it if he is going to give you that kind of garuntee in WRITING with his own blood.

Mike

[ProdigyCustoms]

The HOC pearls are a nice option. not nearly as hard to get right, and can be touched up. but then again, Kandy is Kandy!

[race-rodz]

kandys look great, tough-ups ARE doable.... but no fun at all. life-time guarantee sounds kinda odd...but hey... if he will stand behind it...sweet deal.

my personal opinion..... stick with solid color... if hok is kickin down the materials...go with euro red, solid black(no ghetto pearl this time), and orion silver on the graphics.

whats the deal with the graphics anyway... is it gonna be flames, tribals or ??? if you decide to "free-hand" em out instead of comp cut stencil... i might be able to be persuaded to cruise down and do it for ya. still gonna need that mustang rendering when ya get caught up. (caught up...yeah right)

[slownova]

Kandy is where its at. i wish i would of done mine in kandy. the look of it is just nothing that you can accieve with regular paint. here is a couple pics of kandy viecles i have had a hand in.

http://www.dubmagazine.com/StLouisGallery/images/IMG_5582.jpg
http://www.dubmagazine.com/StLouisGallery/images/IMG_5579.jpg

[evilzee28]

There are some really beautiful kandy colours out there, they're ideal for show cars/trailer queens,but I'd not recommend them to a customer if the car was to be used on a regular basis as it really is a nightmare to blend in & match if it were to get scratched or dented. It seems REALLY odd that the guy is gonna give the paintjob a lifetime guarantee & is probably unheard of in the business. i'd really want to know why he's prepared to do this & if he intends to use any "get out" clauses. To be honest I really would be very wary of someone offering that sort of deal, just sounds too good to be true. Maybe he thinks that he'll recoup money/fame/fortune from doing the job, but you can bet your bottom dollar that after the initial exposure he gets & after painting the car a coupla times, he's not gonna want to do it.Just think,it could cost him a paintjob every few years or so to keep it looking right, multiply that by the life of the car, what...10-15 years +, he's into a whole load of hurt, plus in the meantime he could go outta business anyway. I think you'd be better off with one of the new pearl finshes & if it ever goes tits up at least any good bodyshop would repair it for you, HTH :_paranoid

[Roger Poirier]

My new Mazda 3 has a red tri-coat. Looks like a normal red until it is in the sun.
I love it. However it is one solid color.

Kris, With you all already having a two tone paint, graphics, and custom wheels, I'm not sure this car needs any more action.

You don't want the car to be shown on pimp my ride do you?

Just my thoughts.

R.P.

[clill]

I would assume his lifetime guarantee means if anything he did screws up he will fix it. A chip or scratch in the paint is not one of his screwups. That stuff is a bitch to match . Two people might have entirely different opinions of what looks OK to them. I did a frame off resto on a 69 Z28 a few years ago. I brought the sheetmetal to the painter and had all the jambs sprayed them took them back and hung them on the car. I brought the car back to the painter and they did the final alignment of the sheetmetal and painted the car. When I go to pick up the car it turns out he is pissed at himself for leaving a fender bolt loose. He opened the passenger door and popped the paint on the leading edge of the door where it hit the fender that was sticking out. I said don't worry, just brush touch the spot and rub it. He wants it perfect so he is going to spot paint it. I come back and the door is another color. He then reshoots the entire side of the car. By now the paint has the thick look, all my plated fender bolts are painted Lemans blue and there is overspray under the car. He thought the car looked great, I hated the car and sold it to a friend that ended up repainting it. It is just two peoples different opinions on what is nice. Kandy looks killer on a trailer queen but if you are going to put miles on the car it will get chipped or scratched at some point. If it were my car with candy paint and it got chipped I would probably just leave it as is before trying to get it matched just to avoid anything happening along the lines of what happened to my car.

[ProdigyCustoms]

Charlie's Words come from a wise man. It really is not a matter of "if" it will get chiped or scratched, but "when". And the touch up will suck.

[Kris Horton]

Thanks for all the advice guys. Truth be told, me and my dad enjoy driving the car too much to worry about a show/trailer-only paint job. I'll be taking a look at my other options today though.

Thanks again!
Kris

[4mm]

Kandys are almost impossible to touch up nicely. I found out the hard way. I drive my car hard, at times at the track, and it has about 20 chips on it. IMO, its better to leave it as is than to try to fix the chips. The chips on it are easily seen, but I will have to live with that.

[slownova]

it can be touched up, its just hard. we had a denali that was broke into and damaged. after 3 weeks in the booth with people with skills the spots were undetectable.

[race-rodz]

ask the guy what the lifetime warranty includes... i stand behind my work for a reasonable amount of time... usually about 2 years... figure if its have any "issues" show up from the paint job... it will most likley be in that amount of time..... be leary of a place that will offer too much just to get the job in the door.

and with your time frame.... i would really suggest keeping the job as simple as possible. hmmmm i think i allready said this before :unibrow:

[Kris Horton]

Okay, got the car in the shop today. I've decided against Kandy colors, just going to go with similar colors to what it has now. Me and my dad love what's on it, just not how it was done. So I'll be doing a bright Porsche red on it again, possibly with some pearl. Didn't want to risk changing the whole look of the car, especially now that it's been on the cover of a magazine.

Thanks for all the input though!

Kris

[race-rodz]

pearl+red= pink
pearl+black=ghetto fabulous brown

if your set on a pearl red... find a factory formula.... adding pearl in a mid coat makes it turn pink.

there is a black pearl color that honda uses that is about the best pearl black for not looking brown.

i personally still think solid colors with super straight bodywork... look the bestest :yes:

just my opinion

[Kris Horton]

Noted!

Again, thanks. I'm still new at this...so to the pros: :hail:

I like solid colors too. I just hope the body comes out nice this time!

Kris

[evilzee28]

pearl+red= pink
pearl+black=ghetto fabulous brown

if your set on a pearl red... find a factory formula.... adding pearl in a mid coat makes it turn pink.

there is a black pearl color that honda uses that is about the best pearl black for not looking brown.

i personally still think solid colors with super straight bodywork... look the bestest :yes:

just my opinion

Also, if you add pearl over a solid colour, you'll be back with the same problems,of trying to match the colour again if it gets damaged.Although not as time consuming to repair as kandy, it'll still take someone who knows their stuff to get it looking right.If you're set on a pearl (mica), as race-rodz says, go for a factory colour, don't add it to an existing solid colour, there are some really good colours out there now hth :)

[race-rodz]

I just hope the body comes out nice this time!



dont be afraid to go by and check out the progress..... i wouldnt feel bad about having somebody come in and take a look at it before the paint goes on. its your car, you have the final say in if its good enough or not. thats the beauty of having the car done local as opposed to shipping it up here. its bad enough the car has to be re-done.... this time i would make sure its up to par before you take delivery. that means you will have to check in regularly, with the time frame, you cant afford any healthy screw ups.

just let the body guy know that you already had issues with the way it was done the first time, and you WILL be checking in on the progress and quality this time. if anything looks "off" or doesnt seem right.... tell them, or feel free to ask.

btw...remember what i said about the "lap" joints in the mid of the panel.... make sure they DONT do it that way this time.

[ProdigyCustoms]

pearl+red= pink
pearl+black=ghetto fabulous brown



Yup, been there, done that, made a few Horrible colors that should have been the coolest. Often times it just does not turn out like it sounds!

[Musclerodz]

I actually found a pearl, I think by HOK, called RED ICE, that when in the shade you could not see it, but in the sun it stood out and sparkled real nice. It was not a superfine pearl but more of a flake and gave it kind of a dirty look in the shade. It is hard to do anything with red other than leave it alone.

Mike