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Cutlass2181
01-17-2009, 10:57 AM
hi, im brand new to this site, but not to forums. from browsing around, it doesnt look like im as experienced as you guys, but ive got my own little project on my hands:
I bought my 1983 cutlass about 8 months ago for $3,000. It had a Chevy 350 in it, with a 350 turbo trans, a deamon carb, long tube headers, All MSD, B&M slap shift kit, 373 posi rear, true dual exhaust, traction bars, grant steering wheel, and 14'' cragars.
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa50/douchenozle/IMG_0449.jpg
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It was my daily driver since the day i got it, and i had no problems at all with it. the motor ran great, and started up every day. i did some exterior mods to it, and kept the engine in pretty good shape. the only flaw about this car, was the oil dipstick. it was a piece of crap dipstick, that would always give inaccurate readings, and eventually caused me to blow the motor. i was on the parkway one day, and little to my knowledge i was running on very low oil, about 1 1/2 quarts. i was messin around with a corvette and i could feel the car wasnt right. when i got to my destination i heard a slight knock in the motor but i figured it was the headers getting loose and clanking against the block. on my way back home, the knock got worse and i had to drive slower and slower. eventually, the motor made the worst noises you ever want to hear, there was a big bang, a puff of smoke, and then nothing. i waited a couple hours for a tow, and once i got it back home i started to prepare to part it out because i knew it was blown. i got in contact with a friend of mine, who had a way of getting me a motor, and a shop to do the swap in. i jumped at the opportunity because i didnt want to let the car go. about 2 weeks after the motor blew, i had a heated shop to work in, with every tool you could ever imagine, and a used but good chevy 350 from a 77 chevy pickup. the motor came from a junked pickup that still ran. the guys at the yard said that it ran real well, and they were driving the pickup all around until the body gave out.
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa50/douchenozle/IMG_0614.jpg
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa50/douchenozle/IMG_0615.jpg
we started taking apart the new motor and realized that it was in excellent shape and looked like it was recently rebuilt, and bored 30 over. the lower end of the motor looked really clean, but everything about it was awesome.
(I have all the rest of the pictures on this album)
http://s203.photobucket.com/albums/aa50/douchenozle/83%20Cutlass/
So with a like new motor ready, the work starts:

As for the old motor, when we started pulling it out of the car, you could see what happened. To sum it all up, it looked like one tie rod went up, and several went down, reeking havoc on the lower end of the motor.

One piston was almost completely shattered, I snapped the cam almost clean in half, and bent several more rods. When the rods went down into the lower part of the motor, everything got torn up, and thrown around tearing up the oil pan as well.

Before the new block could be painted, we steam washed it, along with the tranny, and intake manifold that would also be going with the new motor.

We got the motor and tranny out of the car, and took care of the old exhaust in just one day. But of course taking things apart is the easy part.

Besides the motor swap, the other big projects were the entire interior, including rust spots, and lastly paint. I only knew of one rust spot on the drivers side passenger floorboard. But of course once the motor was out, and the entire interior was stripped, I found another problem spot by the pedals:

Im lucky these are the only rust spots on the entire car. Theres no wheel well rust at all, and very light surface rust in the trunk.

These are the upgrades ready to go into the car once the motor gets in:

Flowtech headers stainless coated
Borla mufflers
Full new dual exhaust system exiting at an angle after the rear tires with Chrome tips
Comp cam and lifter kit with valve springs
Wieland intake manifold
Deamon carb
4 Bilstien shocks
High volume oil pump
Steel braided lines in the engine bay
Holley chrome air filter
Chrome valve covers
4 mint condition black trans am GTA wheels 16x8 on brand new yokahoma z-rated tires (picked this lovely package up for just $500.)
Entire 7 autometer gauge set-up
All gaskets and seals to go with the new motor
New interior
And of course rain x wiper blades, and a k&n wrench off oil filter
This is a pretty premature list, ill have a complete one when the job is completely done.

I was trying to do as much of this restoration on my own as possible with some help of course, but I just couldn’t reupholster the interior seats and panels myself so I had to send them out to a place. Im planning on keeping the car black on the outside, with 2 pretty thick silver metallic stripes going down the entire car. I wanted to keep this color scheme in the interior as well, so I had all the plastic match the color of the stripe I wanted on the outside, and I got all of the interior carpeting in black fabric. Now for the seats, I had 2 vinyl striped run down a black fabric seat much like the outside of the car, and it came out really nice. The bash and headliner will be painted black. The interior was the worst part of the car, and now I think its going to be the best. I sprayed the panels with a matching color to the stripe on the seat, and had black carpet inserts put in. they look brand new.

I had to run all over the place finding stock interior replacement parts like switches chrome accents and panels, but I found it all on lovely long island, and the interior is about complete with 4 new speakers as well, but its just waiting to be put all back together. im going for a blackout look, and im trying to get rid of all the chrome. if you guys have any suggestions about anything please let me know.

I sent the new heads out to get ported, so were just waiting on that for now. Im working on the project every spare moment I have and im expecting to get it done by the end of January, then ill break in the cam and all that good stuff, then upload some videos. Ill post more pictures as I continue with the project.

oldzzy
01-17-2009, 09:59 PM
Welcome to the site!

andrewmp6
01-18-2009, 03:47 AM
Welcome to the site nice to see more g bodies on here.You might want to tighten up those traction bars they hang too low to do any good.A good site to look at is gbodyparts.com .

deuce_454
01-18-2009, 06:13 AM
traction bars have NO effect on a k-link suspension... they work on a leaf spring to limit spring wrap... if you want to increase weight transfer or traction on a g-body you have to move the IC rearwards, either by installing brackets to raise the mounting point of the rear upper controll arm, which is great for drag racing.. but the rear roll center height will also increase, making for worse cornering and increased bodyroll.... or you can weld in some SPC lower mount relocators on the rear.. lowering the rear lower controllarm mount, accomplishing the same, without moving the RRCH

stiffer bushings or even better jonny-joints really help both ride, handling and launch (just keep the rubber ones in the rearend, polyurethane increase binding and squeak...)

boxing the controll arms, or replacing with aftermarket is a good move... but boxing them and replacing bushings with either high durometer rubber or johnnyjoints is a good move...

the front end can be upgraded cheaply too.... but i wont tuen this into a novel...

so wellcome, great to see a g-body here.. and for gods sake, loose the slapper bars before some one sees them... they serve NO purpose, and anyone who knows their suspension stuff will just giggle and point

cool car though, post more pics

Cutlass2181
01-18-2009, 10:33 AM
the car came with the traction bars on it from the previous owner. it does seem like they have no effect in regards to handling, but it feels like they pull the rear of the car down and let it grab when it shifts, chirping the tires. is this true? it looks like i have to take them off anyway to get to the rear shocks, so they might be removed completely.

i tried to post more pictures, but 5 is the limit, but i will update the photobucket album when i keep moving along.

deuce_454
01-18-2009, 11:49 PM
it is trur that they limit upwards travel... the rear end moves up and "pivoting" arount the IC.. so the tractionbar will hit when the rear of the is depressed... thate is propably why you have so much distance from the snubber to the car at rideheight... they are effectively only serving as bumpstops....

get rid of them asap :willy:

and the 5 pic limit is per post (smilies counts as pics btw) so just do multible posts... thats is totally ok....

The GTA wheels will look right at home on that thing btw... cool car

G-Body
01-19-2009, 06:12 PM
Sweet Car I love the G-Bodys always have!
Heres a pic of one of my 84 i sold awhile back Any future plans for your Hot Rod?

http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee87/Fleetline48/discphotos109.jpg
http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee87/Fleetline48/discphotos100.jpg
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Cutlass2181
01-19-2009, 07:24 PM
Wow, nice cutty. very very clean. thats exactly where i am mounting my tach too, good spot, i hate when their on the dash.

Cutlass2181
01-19-2009, 07:46 PM
So last week, we started on the floors. there were 3 main rust spots that needed to be patched up. i round a near perfect 87 cutlass in a junkyard, and payed $300 for front back right and left floorboards in good condition.
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa50/douchenozle/83%20Cutlass/IMG_0650.jpg
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa50/douchenozle/83%20Cutlass/IMG_0651.jpg

so far we have 2 of the 3 replaced, and still need to do all of the seam sealing. hoping to have this little portion done with by the end of the week.
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa50/douchenozle/83%20Cutlass/IMG_0663.jpg
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa50/douchenozle/83%20Cutlass/IMG_0662.jpg

Cutlass2181
01-19-2009, 07:47 PM
Today we replaced all 4 shocks with bilstiens. the rears were easy, ran into a problem in the front, and had to cut the bolts and get new ones, but we got them all on and im excited to feel the difference.
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa50/douchenozle/83%20Cutlass/IMG_0660.jpg
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa50/douchenozle/83%20Cutlass/IMG_0661.jpg
we also got new rotors, pads, shoes, and drums. today we installed the new shoes, and drums.

since the rears were done, i decided to put on the tires to see how the car looked. right now i think they look alright, but it will be different when its on the ground and the car is completed.
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa50/douchenozle/83%20Cutlass/IMG_0664.jpg
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67rstbkt
01-19-2009, 08:40 PM
Nice:thumbsup:

ProTouring442
01-20-2009, 08:44 AM
Very nice Cutlass.... I had an '86 442 before some woman ran a red light and t-boned it.

One question though, what's with the disgusting photobucket name?

Shiny Side Up!
Bill

Cutlass2181
01-20-2009, 10:34 AM
thanks, its going to be even nicer once im all finished with it. haha, my photobucket name is a nickname my brother calls me and he made the account for me so im stuck with it.

Cutlass2181
01-21-2009, 08:25 PM
Today we did front brakes. put on new rotors, and pads. I also finally got the heads back, so i can start putting the motor back together this week. looks like its gunna be all done and assembled by the end of friday. I had the heads sent out to get ported, polished, new valves, springs, and paint. they are basically brand new heads.
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa50/douchenozle/83%20Cutlass/IMG_0668.jpg
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa50/douchenozle/83%20Cutlass/IMG_0667.jpg
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http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa50/douchenozle/83%20Cutlass/IMG_0670.jpg

Cutlass2181
01-23-2009, 09:52 PM
today we reassembled most of the motor. got the heads on, cam in, intake manifold on, valve covers on, oil pan on, distributor in, and oil pump in. we still have a couple bolt ons left for tomorrow, like starter, carb, fuel pump, temp gauge, headers. everything went very smooth. no issues which was great, all the gaskets fit and it was a good productive day. tomorrow im also putting the front 2 tires on, putting the car on the ground to fix some other stuff, then the motor gets joined with the tranny and goes back in. forgot my camera so heres some cell phone pics.
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa50/douchenozle/83%20Cutlass/IMG00026-20090123-1236.jpg
took off the plastic on the heads to find out they were done very very well. their like brand new.
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa50/douchenozle/83%20Cutlass/IMG00028-20090123-1241.jpg
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa50/douchenozle/83%20Cutlass/IMG00029-20090123-1401.jpg
turbo 350 from the old set-up

Cutlass2181
01-23-2009, 09:53 PM
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa50/douchenozle/83%20Cutlass/IMG00030-20090123-1927.jpg
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http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa50/douchenozle/83%20Cutlass/IMG00033-20090123-1928.jpg
ill have more pictures tomorrow.

Olds442NorthStar
01-24-2009, 10:03 AM
Sweet. :thumbsup: I have a very similar '82 I am hoping to get back on this summer. I've been too busy with other projects, work and school to mess with it.

What are you doing for springs? Factory G-body springs were pretty weak rated. I put together a spread sheet about 10 years ago that was added onto by another guy on the monte mailing lists that can still be found around the net:

http://www.maliburacing.com/coilspring.htm

It lists Moog replacement springs and their O.E. factory installations which are usually a bit cheaper than aftermarket. Have fun and keep us updated.

Rob S.

Cutlass2181
01-24-2009, 10:00 PM
I didnt do the springs at all. i didnt even think about it, i thought they were fine. ill look into that list and consider it though. ive also gotta keep in my price range.
Today we worked on the tranny, and getting it ready to join with the engine. we made a little more progress on the engine, and put the front tires on. the car should be drivable, but not completely finished in about 3 weeks. here are pictures of the car from today.
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa50/douchenozle/83%20Cutlass/IMG00036-20090124-1803.jpg
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa50/douchenozle/83%20Cutlass/IMG00035-20090124-1803.jpg

Cutlass2181
01-24-2009, 10:01 PM
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa50/douchenozle/83%20Cutlass/IMG00037-20090124-1837.jpg
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa50/douchenozle/83%20Cutlass/IMG00038-20090124-1837.jpg
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa50/douchenozle/83%20Cutlass/IMG00039-20090124-1837.jpg
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa50/douchenozle/83%20Cutlass/IMG00040-20090124-1838.jpg
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa50/douchenozle/83%20Cutlass/IMG00041-20090124-1838.jpg
i will keep your guys updated. let me know if you have any suggestions, i sure could use them.

olds
06-10-2009, 06:25 AM
the car came with the traction bars on it from the previous owner. it does seem like they have no effect in regards to handling, but it feels like they pull the rear of the car down and let it grab when it shifts, chirping the tires. is this true? it looks like i have to take them off anyway to get to the rear shocks, so they might be removed completely.

Nice cutlass!

Try these - they're the best you can buy for your car:
http://www.scandc.com/currectrac.htm

Not sure if you posted it somewhere, but what size are your front tires? &backspacing on wheels. I like those

ElkyZO6
06-10-2009, 09:07 AM
Nice g-body. Keep the pic's and updates coming.:thumbsup: