View Full Version : "tool" of choice for would-be theives
race-rodz
09-16-2005, 12:04 AM
this comment here taken from a question about alarms got me thinkin....
Thats the problem with that theory though. What happens if my "tool" is a 50 cal hand gun, and buddies "tool" is a 9mm and he gets to the trigger faster.... Your hooped.
But in theory it would be freakin fun to walk up, beat the living crap out of him, and say he hit you first LOL.
-Matt
so my question is... what is everybodies favorite "tool"... these are absoulutly "what-if's"... and we dont really care about legality... because we all know we should just sit in our houses completly defencless and call 911 and wait for the POLICE to show up and deal with the bad guys :rolleyes:
race-rodz
09-16-2005, 12:18 AM
opps...forgot to list mine....
i personally am into guns...usually the kind made for killing lots of things without reloading.
i carry (2) 40 cal "baby" eagles (just like american express...never leave home without them)
the bedroom arsenal consists of:
SLR95 (bulgarian AK-47)
HK91
hungarian AK-47 pistol
couple short 12ga scatterguns
varmit rifle AR15 (group of 5 size of a qtr @800yds)
MAC 10
TEK 9 (biggest P.O.S. ever made)
Desert Eagle 50 cal (wow factor)
featherlite hammerless 357 (shooting it is campared to placin hand under a cinderblock and hitting with 20lb sledge)
Ruger 10/22 tricked out everything with a *cough* FLASH suppresor(neighborhood strays that insist on walkin on my vehicles)
308 bolt action custom "everything" (full-on sniper rifle.. was supposed to be my "hunting rifle"... but i find hunting sucks, gotta get up way too early, usually when its cold and wet out... not my thing)
zbugger
09-16-2005, 12:29 AM
I am still a fan of the good ole' baseball bat. Nothing like repeatedly beating someone in the head and hearing the skull turn to mush.
sinned
09-16-2005, 06:17 AM
varmit rifle AR15 (group of 5 size of a qtr @800yds)
I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest this is with a scope and not open sights....if so I know several sniper teams that want to talk to you right now.
Nice armory, PM your addy so when WWIII hits I know who to hang out with.
Short Winchester 870 12 guage for CQB. Glock .40 goes everywhere else.
Oh yeah, that's only after talking to the obviously less fortunate soul who is only stealing your stuff because of something that society did!
race-rodz
09-16-2005, 01:24 PM
sorry... every"rifle" has a scope except for the ak's and the hk. my "hunting" rifle has a huge scope "donated" by the u.s.m.c. (buddy who just got home) i havent even shot it yet.... as the longest local range is only 800yds.... but we did find another about 1 hour north that has a 1200yd rifle range.... so im loading up some special rounds for an outing in the near future.
as for the "why"... i dont think WWIII is gonna happen... i just collect them cuz i think they are cool. i find it relaxing to go out and blow sh!t up when you have had a bad week.
sinned
09-16-2005, 04:58 PM
sorry... every"rifle" has a scope except for the ak's and the hk. my "hunting" rifle has a huge scope "donated" by the u.s.m.c. (buddy who just got home) i havent even shot it yet.... as the longest local range is only 800yds.... but we did find another about 1 hour north that has a 1200yd rifle range.... so im loading up some special rounds for an outing in the near future. You forgot M16A2...no scope, I beleive the M4 also has no scope although both can be outfitted one.
as for the "why"... .Why not nesessary, just wish had them is all.
race-rodz
09-16-2005, 06:03 PM
my AR15 has a scope, the 10/22 has a scope(can shoot shot gun shell primers @100 yds... the record is 13 in a row 1st shot :unibrow: )
hmmm... i think i might have to go shooting tomorrow... i havent "vented" in a couple weeks :D
USAZR1
09-18-2005, 02:22 PM
opps...forgot to list mine....
varmit rifle AR15 (group of 5 size of a qtr @800yds)
Being a decent long range rifleman,I would like to see a photo of that target.
An 8" group at the range with that style action and that caliber would be world record shooting.
I shoot an AMAC 5100 .50BMG w/NightForce optics. This is a nice field weapon that is capable of 6"-7" groups at 1,000 yards,if I do my part. Ammo used is either A-Max or Thunderbird Match,,nothing exotic,though. The world record for a production gun at 1,000 yards is a 3"+ group that was shot with a Barrett M99 .50BMG rifle.
Damn True
09-18-2005, 02:44 PM
The "tool" is a Taurus .357 Magnum revolver loaded with snake shot. It throws a 18"-24" shot pattern at five paces and wont go through walls.
race-rodz
09-18-2005, 04:52 PM
Being a decent long range rifleman,I would like to see a photo of that target.
An 8" group at the range with that style action and that caliber would be world record shooting.
I shoot an AMAC 5100 .50BMG w/NightForce optics. This is a nice field weapon that is capable of 6"-7" groups at 1,000 yards,if I do my part. Ammo used is either A-Max or Thunderbird Match,,nothing exotic,though. The world record for a production gun at 1,000 yards is a 3"+ group that was shot with a Barrett M99 .50BMG rifle.
my AR is anything but production. i got it from a local gun guy who does comp shooting..for painting his harley... it actually uses a bushmaster reciever, lothar-walther 19" barrel(unsure of twist), a barska 10-40-50ir scope... dunno what else is "done" to it.
i have no idea what the ammo is... he sold me 1000 rounds of what he said were comp loads.... told me not to waste them :rolleyes:
i exagerated a lil on the accuracy.... but it is WAY under a 8" group. the exact specs for the day were: no wind, 11 am facing west, 1310' alt, 91* ambient temp... the actual range is 765yds.... just over 3/8 mile.... the group size is 2-2 1/2" (about 2 qtrs)
btw... my "buddy" who just got out of the USMC is a sniper, the 2 of us shoot about dead even weapon for weapon. i used to be decent, but after his "training" i have become a lot better and more consistant.
i would love a 50bmg... but untill my gun guy builds another bike and needs it painted..... i dont forsee kickin down the cash to own one.
Damn True
09-18-2005, 05:32 PM
my AR is anything but production. i got it from a local gun guy who does comp shooting..for painting his harley... it actually uses a bushmaster reciever, lothar-walther 19" barrel(unsure of twist), a barska 10-40-50ir scope... dunno what else is "done" to it.
i have no idea what the ammo is... he sold me 1000 rounds of what he said were comp loads.... told me not to waste them :rolleyes:
i exagerated a lil on the accuracy.... but it is WAY under a 8" group. the exact specs for the day were: no wind, 11 am facing west, 1310' alt, 91* ambient temp... the actual range is 765yds.... just over 3/8 mile.... the group size is 2-2 1/2" (about 2 qtrs)
btw... my "buddy" who just got out of the USMC is a sniper, the 2 of us shoot about dead even weapon for weapon. i used to be decent, but after his "training" i have become a lot better and more consistant.
i would love a 50bmg... but untill my gun guy builds another bike and needs it painted..... i dont forsee kickin down the cash to own one.
With that kinda velocity though the round will pass through the theif, the wall, the fridge, another wall, your dog, your daughters left thigh and finally come to rest smack in the center of your plasma screen TV.
race-rodz
09-18-2005, 08:49 PM
well i wouldnt ever plan on shooting a wouldbe theif with any of my assault rifles..... kinda hard to prove your life was in danger over about 10 feet away.
i actually have hydrashocks in my baby eagles for that very reason. they go in...tear up everything...but dont come out. i have heard you can shoot an undamaged car winsheild with them from 20' and a hydrashock round wont go through.... havent tryed it...so i cant say for sure.
i used my AK to shoot an old SBC block with "made in russia" fmj "hunting" ammo.... from 50 yds.... it was like watching a pipe bomb go off.
most my weapons are completly worthless unless i get into comp shooting.... or anarchy overthrows the government
USAZR1
09-19-2005, 12:20 PM
With that kinda velocity though the round will pass through the theif, the wall, the fridge, another wall, your dog, your daughters left thigh and finally come to rest smack in the center of your plasma screen TV.
A .223 round wouldn't do all that but a .50BMG round would be worse than the above scenario. However,it's irrelevant to me because shooting my big gun in the city would be totally irresponsible. In a SHTF scenario,all bets are off. With the .50BMG,if I can see it,I can hit it.
For home defense,I have a Star PD .45ACP handgun and either a Remington 870 or 1100. Both the latter are riot shotguns loaded with #6 or #7 shot for less penetration potential. I normally keep a mag of Glaser Safety Slugs in the .45ACP and another mag of Silvertips and Ball nearby.
I also own a few assault rifles and subguns for domestic unrest.
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