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camaro2nv
12-14-2008, 01:24 PM
As I work on my 68 Camaro I think about the patch job that was done to the quarters. I sanded off the paint to find a splice down the middle of the quarter. There was a TON of mud in the channel. Im putting a lot of time and money into this project. I dont want anything half arse! SO with that said what suggestions do you guys have for me? Should I cut the section out and weld in a clean section? Or should I replace the full quarters?
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68protouring454
12-14-2008, 01:42 PM
if weld looks good, hammer, dolly, shrink etc to make it flat and re-body work, but if that cant be done i would do full 1/4's
can it be repaired so it doesnt need more then .125 to .188 of mud?

DOOM
12-14-2008, 02:26 PM
:cheers: if weld looks good, hammer, dolly, shrink etc to make it flat and re-body work, but if that cant be done i would do full 1/4's
can it be repaired so it doesnt need more then .125 to .188 of mud?

X2

Jim Nilsen
12-14-2008, 06:32 PM
The amount of time you will spend on fixing it is almost as much time as doing the full 1/4 in my opinion and it will never look as good down the road. Sanding that damn curve is a pain and is a lot harder than the top of the sail panel. You also get to get rid of the seam you can see from the inside which will always reduce the value of the repair. If you can fix the the quarter the way it is you can fix a full 1/4. If you have to pay someone to weld the new one up it won't be much and will be worth it as it will only take them a few hours ater you have it already in place to do it.

You can do it, have faith in yourself if you are not sure, it's easier than it looks. Unless there is absolutely nothing else wrong with the panel go for it.
:cheers:

gearheadgarage
12-28-2008, 05:40 PM
I agree......Sorry to say, but you're probably better of replacing the whole 1/4 panel. It's all too likely that you'lll wind up with cracking in that same area down the line. Camaros flex quite a bit in the quarters, especially when you have horsepower.

Keep filler to a minimum, especially there at the top of the 1/4 panel. If you can do so effectively, maybe you can keep what's already done....how's the rest of the panel look?

ItDoRun
12-28-2008, 07:55 PM
I'd replace the full quarter it if it were my car. That will eliminate the possibility of body work showing it's face later on.

camaro2nv
12-28-2008, 08:14 PM
Thanks guys, I guess Im going to replace them. Man I should have paid a lot less for this car,lol. Oh well live and learn!:cheers:

awr68
12-28-2008, 08:15 PM
I'd replace the full quarter if it were my car. That will eliminate the possibility of body work showing it's face later on.

x2
As far as you are going with this car...I feel it's the right thing to do and I know you are capable!!

camaro2nv
12-30-2008, 06:57 PM
Your right just knowing its the way it is will eat at me FOREVER,LOL. I guess Ill be looking up some good how to's on this one:lol: Thanks again guys for the input!

Jeff
12-31-2008, 12:39 AM
Kind of new to this, I don't know if you received the message from Monday?.?
I don't know what the rest of your quarter looks like, but if that's all the damage as seen in the photo I'd pick and file it.
Not to say anything bad about the guy who said, that area is a hard place to sand. I've been doing this for almost 30 years and that little curve on the quarter is easy if you use the right tool.
From what I see in the photo it would be a lot easier to pick and file that out and lead it. Use a file that is half round "kind of U shaped".
You can work most of it out before you put any filler on it be it lead or bondo.
If you think bondo is bad it's not, it's the A--holes that think it's a car in a can and they think they're a famous sculpture artist. If you work your metal and use it to get out minor imperfections it's fine.
With the primers they have now you can stick, I guess I should block out a lot of imperfections.
What I meant by stick is I never sand primer with a block, I use a paint stick and wrap the sandpaper around it and stick it out. You don't have any square edges like you do with a block so you won't have any surprise sanding lines.
Back to your quarter panel, if that seam that shows in the photo goes from the door jam to the tail light panel, then that's an aftermarket quarter. And if they don't make full quarters for the Camaro's yet, then work with what you have on the car. Because the aftermarket quarters that run down that body line are a pain in the ass to put on. I've had to put them on and that six foot weld (I don't care how much you jump your weld around) that crappy Taiwan sheet metal is going to warp. And if the try to tell you that their sheet metal isn't made in Taiwan, they are full of S----.
Let me see some more photos.
If you think I'm a whack it and pack it body man I'm not. Over the years you would be amazed on how much bondo I've taken off of old muscle cars,Porsche's,Mercedes,Jag's,Rolls,Etc...It doesn't matter if it's a hundred thousand dollar car I've knocked off other body shops bondo that was 2 inches thick or sometimes there isn't even sheet metal behind it.
Go to my my space page and check out the 69 SS Chevelle I did back in the later 80's or early 90's. The Rt. Quarter just behind the door, when I looked down through the quarter glass, there was an arm of bondo coming through this hole that was about 4 inches round. That was when you had to find used quarters because they didn't make aftermarket ones.
I don't do that My Space to often but the my page is under jeffspaintandbody
There a couple of photo's of 67 RS and 70's Lt Camaro's.
If I can help you let me know my email is [email protected]
Jeff