Wayne Due Sub Frame C4 Suspension

[DaCajun]

Wayne Due Sub Frame with C4 Suspension. This is a brand new never installed Wayne Due front subframe for the 1st gen F-bodies. I will include the front suspension with the subrfame. It was primed and stored indoors.
This located in the north Dallas area. Buyer to pay shipping cost. $3000 plus shipping.


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The motor, transmission, wheel and dolly and not included wih this sale.,

Thanks,
Dave

[DaCajun]

Weekend bump....

[Bowtieracing]

Beautifull piece-mother of all subs :cheers:

[fesler]

I may have someone interested in this PM me your bottom dollar. Thanks

[cowboybob]

Interested in the sub...can pick up the item locally. PM sent.

[DaCajun]

Still for sale...

[DaCajun]

All Pm's returned. Still for sale......

Thanks,
Dave

[NRV2L8]

Sent you a PM

[DaCajun]

Sent you a PM


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BTW, Merry Christmas fellow Gearheads!!!


-Dave

[Steamroller]

What year does this go on? Does it have powersteering?

Rusty

[awr68]

What year does this go on? Does it have powersteering?

Rusty

Rusty, it is for a 67-69 Camaro or Pontiac (First Gen F-Body) and appears to be setup for power rack & pinion steering....doesn't look like the power rack is included though?

[DaCajun]

awr68 thanks for helping out with some of the details. Yes as stated it is for a 67,68 and 69 Camaros and Firebird's. These use mustang GT quick ratio rack and pinions witch can be manual or power.

BTW, it does come with a sway bar along with all the hardware and documentation that was provided by Wayne Due when I purchased it from him.

Thanks,
-Dave

[DaCajun]

I believe it's some around 59" to 60" from hub to hub. And I do believe 10" wide wheels will work, just depending on the backspacing.
I'll be happy to answer any other questions.

Thanks,
-Dave

[simbad's68]

Is the rack & pinion included?

[jcal87]

Dacajun i tried to email you through my aol but it got rejected so here is what i sent you



"Im interested in your SF. Does it come with the A arms and coil overs and is there anything else that it might come with as in rack in pinion? I am originaly from the north dallas area to, Lewisville to be exact but currently stationed in San diego. but i have still have friends and family in the area would it be possible if it comes to it for someone to look at it for me?"

[DaCajun]

Sorry for the delay. The subframe comes with the upper and lower control arms as shown in the pictures. Also included is the Sway bar and the original documents that I received from Wayne Due when I purchased the subframe. I will also include a set of brake caliper adapters that will allow C5 brakes to be used. No rack & pinion or coilovers are included. The subframe is new, never installed, stored indoors since date of purchase from Wayne. I did have it primed to prevent surface rust. The weld beads look to have been done by a machine. The man could weld like a mofo. Let me know if you have any other questions.

Thanks,
Dave

[T_Raven]

Beautifull piece-mother of all subs :cheers:

Just curious why you say mother of all subs. I was under the impression that this has the worst geometry of all the corvette based subs.

[DaCajun]

What an Ass. It sure was good enough for Mark Stielow to use on the Mule.

http://www.pro-touring.com/featured_cars/Camaro/mark_stielow/The_Mule/mark_stielow_new_page002.htm

Some people just have to be negative. If you don't have anything postive to say please just worry about your own business.

[T_Raven]

What an Ass. It sure was good enough for Mark Stielow to use on the Mule.

http://www.pro-touring.com/featured_cars/Camaro/mark_stielow/The_Mule/mark_stielow_new_page002.htm

Some people just have to be negative. If you don't have anything postive to say please just worry about your own business.

I'm an ass? It's was a legit question. I know Stielow used one on the mule I followed the build in PHR. But there weren't any C5 suspensions back then were there? So if it's such a great sub then why is it no longer made? I wasn't being negative, and as a potential buyer it's totally my business.....so YOU Sir are the ass.

It's a nice sub but I just wanted to know why he called it the "mother of all subs" considering it's old technology and isn't even made anymore. There are 3 very nice c5/c6 based subs being sold and from his comment he's saying the Wayne Due is better than those.

[T_Raven]

I just realized maybe bowtieracer meant that it was the first sub when he said mother of all subs. But it sounded like he was saying it's the best.

But anyway I meant no offense, I had just read somewhere that the geometry wasn't the best compared to some of the newer ones. It's still a nice sub and I'd take one for $3k over one of the others for $6k.

[awr68]

I think it should be said that the earlier subs that Wayne's boss (Art) built were lacking...but if this is one of the later versions that Wayne built it will be fine/corrected. From what I remember both Mark and Steveo had to make changes to their earlier versions of this frame.

Why aren't they still being made? Well, Wayne isn't in business anymore. Why did he move to C5 parts before closing the doors....evolution.

Will a 10" wheel work...yes with the correct b.s.

Basically this is the mother of all aftermarket frames, are the newer C5/C6 based SF's better? Yes, but for twice the price. This is a nice piece for a decent price and should work well for many.

Oh, and I don't know the seller from Adam.....

[DaCajun]

Gentalmen, I appreciate ya'll clearing that up. And yes this is one of the latter one's that Wayne did just before he closed his doors. He did offer a C5 sub frame to me but I elected to go with a C4 sub frame. There is nothing wrong with this sub frame, I'm just in the middle of building a low 7 to high 6 second quarter mile C5 Z06 turbo drag car. I'm focused in trying to get the drag car completed for the upcoming race season. A car of this caliper gets real expensive real fast. All my play money is going to this project. I'll have to do a protouring car a little latter.

Thanks again,
Dave