Ironworks Chassis Product Development

[ironworks]

Well guys we have been busy cutting out some chassis's on the water jet. We have developed a Process to make rectangular tube chassis's that we feel almost anybody could assemble. We have designed and cut out the parts to index and fit togther like a snap togther model. The proper bevel on the edges are all cut and laid out to interlock the whole chassis togther. On the prototype once we tacked up the chassis on a flat plate, and we measured for square and found it to on the Money or completely square without any adjustments. We are looking at selling chassis kits that the consumer could build themselves or we could weld up for the for more money. I'm hoping to open up the market to the home builder who wants that really nice chassis but does not have 20 grand just laying around, but can weld pretty good in the garage. We will be able to offer the frames in a few dfferent stances and they all will have the same front suspension and 3 or 4 link rear suspension

The current applications would be the 55-59, 47-54, 62-72 chevy trucks. Trucks are much simplier to lay out, then we will have the tri-five chassis avalible. I have thought about doing a Camaro subframe maybe at some point.

So my question, does the do it your self, even a monkey could do it frame kits appeal to the home home builder and even other shops. Or should I just focus on building the frames to sell?

Here are some pics of the current chassis we are doing for 57 chevy truck.

[rwhite692]

Rodger that is a killer idea...cool as hell and there is some great market potential there! -Rob

[wiedemab]

I love the idea. That looks beefy as hell! What front suspension would be offered - C5/6 vette components at various widths like you've done on other projects?

Again - very cool idea.

[MtotheIKEo]

I would love to weld my own frame together. For people that are DIYers and would want to build their own frames this would be cool.

[radrambler]

rodger

:thumbsup:
watch how fast someone copies this and runs with it...
i dont have a truck but if i did that would be awesome..
great idea ...i would imagine the flat steel would crate up and ship easier than a full frame.....saving more $$ ?
what kind of price point..i may know someone interested .pm me when you get a figure

radrambler

[ironworks]

At this point we are going to base it on the Wilwood Pro Spindle, just because of how many option you have with that. I plan to work into vette stuff, but it is alot more complicated. We are building the arms and the rear axle as a unit that would be on all the chassis, just to standardize the product.

The chassis pictured will give a 6" ride height with 20's and 22"s. The Shocks are mouted on the outside of the chassis and It will have a 3 link with a watts link.

[wiedemab]

The Wilwood spindle is a good choice. Man, I want to build one!

[camcojb]

I love the idea; the only concern I have is that there will be guys welding this together that should not be welding this together, if you get my drift. There's probably more bad home welders than good ones, and improper welding on a frame and chassis is not the thing you want......... ;)

As long as you are protected from any liability it's a cool idea.

Jody

[sutton82]

I want one so bad I can't stand it. What would you do for a crossmember?

[frankenstang]

Make one for a 61 Austin Healy 3000 and you'll have a friend for life. My buddy and I picked the wrong kind of car to "budget" build a hot rod.

[comp-spec]

Great Idea

[BRIAN]

How about a 2x4 clip for the street rod crowd that would use either 1st gen F body or Chevelle based suspensions. The A body I thing is narrower in the later years and a better fit. The Camaro 59" can be a problem on the early Fords.

Anyway the idea would let the builder used either production or DSE style parts. No small ass Mustang 2 bushings for the real world. Better than using a junk yard clip as you never know what has happened to them. Nothing beats the ride of a GM suspension especially with the DSE or Global mods.

Just an idea to get an alternative to the Mustang 2 deal although I know the Wilwood spindle is supposed to be the deal.

[bentfab]

Yo Roger,
Great meeting you in vegas. This might work out perfect. I have customer dropping off a 63 chevy p/u next week for a rear notch and bag. Could you make these c-notches by them selfs without the long legs. I want a nice clean radius up and over the rear end like in your picture. Give me a call at the shop tomorrow or pm me.

[SWAPMEETCRAZY]

Roger,if only a year ago --i would have the 1st copy of 67-72!!! Built my own with a lot of starring at your website !! Will post pics soon--U will see your influence!!! I see great potential for this especially since I know u can make subtle changes to owners tastes or needs !! Go for it!! Got to be a market for this!!:hail: :hail:

[CRCRFT78]

Skip the Tri-fives and go straight for the Novas starting with 62-65. :thumbsup:

[MtotheIKEo]

Yo Roger,
Great meeting you in vegas. This might work out perfect. I have customer dropping off a 63 chevy p/u next week for a rear notch and bag. Could you make these c-notches by them selfs without the long legs. I want a nice clean radius up and over the rear end like in your picture. Give me a call at the shop tomorrow or pm me.

another alternative

http://www.suicidedoors.com/node/406

[novanutcase]

So that's what you've been up to.......LOL!

Great idea!

John

[shiftytim]

Great idea! I would jump on this is a heartbeat.

[ironworks]

Well here are some crappy pics of the chassis. We developed all the control arms and delrin bushings. We are using Global west crossshafts at this point. It offers about a 3 inch roll center and with the rack mounted low it should give pretty good engine clearance. In the rear it has Johnny Joints for the 3 link to allow bind free movement with Big poly bushings. The driveshaft hoops are tall to allow the engine to be pretty high in the frame since the ride height is 6 inches from the ground.

I hope to have it on the ground by the time I'm back on Sunday from the Super Street Car Nationals.

We also have about 75" of the tri five chassis layed out now in Solidworks and will be starting on the Prototype very soon and begin filling sme of the pre orders we have.

Sorry about the crappy pics,

[ironworks]

Well those of you interested give me the applications your interested in. I did the 55-59 truck frame because the customer paid me. I was going to do the 47-54 chevy cuz I have a call for 2 of them. I have 3-4 customers that want a tri-five frame. It seem like I should do the 62-72 chevy truck real soon.


I will be back behind the Key board again on Monday.

Rodger

[SWAPMEETCRAZY]

IF THAT'S CRAPPY, I DON'T KNOW IF WE COULD STAND THE GOOD ONES (LOL)!!! SERIOUSLY , GREAT PRODUCT ROGER ---U DO US PROUD!!! WILL BE WATCHING FOR 67-72 C10!!:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[ironworks]

Soon buddy soon

[fleetus macmullitz]

Good news for us fringe bunch of tri-five streetfighter wannabes.:D

[HWY Nova]

Soon you'll be called FrameWorks!..... as well as Ironworks, NovaWorks, ....... and, yes, CamaroWorks.


--Eric

[ScotI]

Soon buddy soon

I too would like to see the 67-72 style frame 'concept'. I'm building a 67 short fleet & have already purchased an aftermarket front crossmember set-up that uses C4 suspension w/a 4-5" ride height (bolts in like the stock c.member).

Currently, I've been contemplating the rear suspension. The simple truck arm set-up that was installed worked well (reinforced OE truck arms, home-made lowering blocks, air bags, 34" panhard bar). The problem is the rear ride height won't match the 'new' front ride height w/o some tweaking. I've looked into a 4-link but would prefer a 3-link & there's only so many choices for 3-link suspensions.

I look forward to seeing what you'll be offering. Any 'ball-park' estimates as far as pricing?

[SWAPMEETCRAZY]

Pm Me Scoti--i Will Send U Pics Of Mine ---flatout Front End And Modified Rear --all C4--jim

[ScotI]

Pm Me Scoti--i Will Send U Pics Of Mine ---flatout Front End And Modified Rear --all C4--jim
I could do the C4 rear but I'm not a big fan of IRS set-up's. Still always like to see pics of what others are cookin' though.....