Project Never Enough

[camaro2nv]

Its been a long time dream to mod a 1st gen Camaro. Ive built many cars and bikes but it was never planed it just happened. This project was bought with it in my head that modding was comin. You guys will have to bare with me on this project. Its going to be a long project but worth it in the end. I hope to sell my Boat to fund whats coming. If Ive added it up right Im looking at about 25k without the cost of the car. Thats doing all the work myself including paint. Heres some pics of what Im workin with.
Heres the car I bought two weeks ago.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/tiller2nv/maro.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/tiller2nv/maro1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/tiller2nv/DSC_0250.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/tiller2nv/DSC_0251.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/tiller2nv/DSC_0254.jpg

Ive started to tear it down. I know a lot of you are thinking. That guy is nuts! That car has fresh paint on it. Well it just wasnt good enough for me. Ive done many paint jobs and this one just doesnt stack up. The nice part is its been blasted. Ive put the order in for some steel for the rotisserie. I also ordered some 16 gauge for the firewall work. Next will be the tubs. Ill update as I go.

[camaro2nv]

More pics
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/tiller2nv/DSC_0256.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/tiller2nv/DSC_0275.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/tiller2nv/DSC_0276.jpg
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[camaro2nv]

And more
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/tiller2nv/DSC_0279.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/tiller2nv/DSC_0280.jpg

[camaro2nv]

I think I posted this in the wrong section. Mods can you move it? Thanks!

[waynieZ]

Hi Nice project. Did you get to see any pictures of what the other guy did to it , as far as replacing sheet metal and patch work?
Wayne

[7TSS]

Looks like you're off to a great start.

What are your plans for it?

[awr68]

Looks like a solid car, will you be stripping it or scuff and shoot?

[Vegas69]

Looks solid....the over spray all over everything is the first sign of a half assed job. The second is waves in the paint in a photo.:rofl: You can make a bucket full of **** look good in a photo. Looks like a great start though man:thumbsup:

[camaro2nv]

Looks solid....the over spray all over everything is the first sign of a half assed job. The second is waves in the paint in a photo.:rofl: You can make a bucket full of **** look good in a photo. Looks like a great start though man:thumbsup:

Yes sir, thats why I tore it a part. Waves like the ocean! I went to pick the car up and the last owner said, put it together and your good to go,lol. Theres very little filler on the panels. Looks like someone just shot it.

The car was blasted though, its pretty clean. The underside has nothing on it, its just metal. Ill be building a rotisserie soon. The underside will be color matched. Plans so far include,
LS2, T56
Custom interior
Shave a LOT of body lines, handels ect.
Save firewall
Strip the paint and start over
New front subframe, unsure of brand at this point
New 12 bolt rear end.
Custom air ride
20in 19in wheels unsure of brand
DSE tubs
14in brakes unsure of brand
HOK Nova orange paint

Ill get started strippin soon:)

[camaro2nv]

Did a little more work this afternoon. I shaved the drip rails. I also did a little sanding on the car. Looks like the car was really stripped last go round. Only one paint job on her. The top of the car is super flat! Given what Ive seen sanding. Ill block the top and strip the rest of the car.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/tiller2nv/DSC_0284.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/tiller2nv/DSC_0281.jpg

[awr68]

You say you shaved the drip rails? Do you have other pics showing this as it looks to me that the are still on the car, perhaps just the angle of the pics?

For a little more work, and not much really! I would deffinatly strip the roof/whole car! There's nothing like starting fresh, and the roof is right in your face when the cars on the ground!

[Reckley]

Looks like a good car to start with. You might be one of the lucky ones that starts with a rust free car.

I'm interested to see more of what's under the paint.

Mike

[T_Raven]

is there welding to be done when shaving the drip rails or do you just cut them off and call it good?

[camaro2nv]

Ill try and get better pics. Theres a little bump that runs in back of the drip rail. I left it there. I think its a nice touch. Theres a couple spots that need to be welded shut.
I know at least one quarter has been replaced but yeah its going to be nice to see what under that paint. So far so good. Its nice to see evercoat filler. I like to see that because that usually shows that a decent shop did the work.

[camaro2nv]

Started doing some sanding today. As I got into the passenger side quarter I found the cut for the new quarter. Wouldnt have been my choice but I guess it will be ok. I found a 1/2 of bondo over the welded section. I dont know why this much filler was used. The panel isnt that off, oh well its gone now.
I then got started on the template for the firewall. I think this will do just fine!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/tiller2nv/DSC_0285.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/tiller2nv/DSC_0286.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/tiller2nv/DSC_0288.jpg
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/tiller2nv/DSC_0292.jpg

[Patrick]

Looks like a real nice starting point...Make sure to post lots of photos during the build.

[camaro2nv]

Just put the order in for my motor. I went with the ASA cam package.
http://www.pro-touring.com/forum/showthread.php?t=47065

[waynieZ]

Hi nice project its moving fast. I think you made a good choice with that motor, from what I read it looks like a nice power maker. your going to have a sweet ride when your done.
Wayne

[tones2SS]

Looks like you're moving along.
Keep us posted.:thumbsup:

[camaro2nv]

:woot: Got my LS2 with LS3 heads in today! I also went with the ASA cam. Ill post pics later. Feels good to get some parts in.
I also have been welding up the drip rails. Im a long ways away but its nice to get going on the project:cheers:

[awr68]

Very cool! I would put that new motor in the dining room...ya know, away from all the sanding dust!

Sweet progress...keep at it!! :cheers:

[rich-allen]

It feels good to have a new LS2 with aluminum heads sitting in the garage doesn't it? Looking good the motor you just know it';s going to make your light weight car really scream.

Project looks great, post some pics of the new firewall plate as soon as you cut it.



Rich

[lhkustoms]

nice project its nice to see you stripping it all the way down and starting over so you know you have a great base to start from. keep the pics coming :thumbsup:

[camaro2nv]

Heres some pics of the Motor. I know I have a long way to go but I bought the paint also,lol. HOK Nova Orange. Got all my Bondo, Glaze and Primer. I also took a pic of the drip rail. Getting close to getting this done.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/tiller2nv/DSC_0299.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/tiller2nv/DSC_0307.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/tiller2nv/DSC_0308.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/tiller2nv/DSC_0297.jpg

[camaro2nv]

Slow going but here's a couple more.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/tiller2nv/DSC_0314sesized.jpg
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/tiller2nv/DSC_0325resized.jpg

[Sparks67]

Slow going but here's a couple more.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/tiller2nv/DSC_0325resized.jpg


I don't see the fender bolt holes on your firewall. Although, it doesn't appear to be tack welded. I already seen one guy that forgot to drill those holes and welded it. There is some photos of my firewall on this link. http://www.kodakgallery.com/67rscamaro/main/67_camaro_rs

Jeff
http://www.kodakgallery.com/67rscamaro

[thedude327]

Looks like your making great progress with the bodywork. Are you adding a custom rear suspension or using the leaf springs ?

Paul

[camaro2nv]

I just set the firewall plate up there for fitment. Im still up in the air over to show the trim tag or not. I figured I have sooo much to do on the car that Ill just come back to that later,lol.

Prodigy Bar is the plan right now. Just need to save some cash. Christmas was rough on my build plans:rofl:

[simbad's68]

Great progress.. Did you remove all the drip rail at one time, or remove small section and tack weld? I'm trying to decide whether to go smooth or use a 1/4" rod and taper it down.

[waynieZ]

Nice progress , and thats a nice shiny engine too.

[Kory 88Iroc Lt1]

Looks great.
Subscribing.
Kory

[camaro2nv]

Couple more shots. I shaved the trunk lock and passenger door. I started on the driver but found that that door has been hit. Its been pulled and has a bunch of mud on it. Ill be ordering a new driver door. Whats the best repo door for a 68?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/tiller2nv/DSC_0329resized.jpg
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/tiller2nv/DSC_0336.jpg

[camaro2nv]

Well I got one of the stock tubs cut out tonight. Wow what a pain in the arse!lol. Firewall is really close to being welded up also. Ill post progress pics tomorrow.
This site has REALLY been good for me. Seeing the threads of the builders on this site has helped a bunch! Ive always modded cars, but not to this point. Heck Im teaching myself to weld on this car. The more work that goes into it the more I think Ill never be able to sell it. I think about the pride Im going to feel when some day I finish it. Just awesome:cheers:

[awr68]

Looking good, keep at it! It's great to see you so excited about the build...that's what it's all about!! :cheers:

[rich-allen]

Well I got one of the stock tubs cut out tonight. Wow what a pain in the arse!lol. Firewall is really close to being welded up also. Ill post progress pics tomorrow.
This site has REALLY been good for me. Seeing the threads of the builders on this site has helped a bunch! Ive always modded cars, but not to this point. Heck Im teaching myself to weld on this car. The more work that goes into it the more I think Ill never be able to sell it. I think about the pride Im going to feel when some day I finish it. Just awesome:cheers:

This site has been responsible for more long nights and empty bank accounts imaginable. :lol:

Project is looking great! Keep up the good work.


Rich

[camaro2nv]

Well things are moving slow,lol. Lack of funds. Ive got my wheels/tires in. Im also ordering the Morrison rear clip today(I hope) If I can get the price locked in. Cmon Frank hook a brotha up,lol.
Heres some pics of the wheels
Forgitao three piece
20x12 20x10
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/tiller2nv/wheels1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/tiller2nv/wheels2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/tiller2nv/wheels3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/tiller2nv/wheels4.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/tiller2nv/wheels5.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/tiller2nv/wheels6.jpg

[camaro2nv]

Couple more
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/tiller2nv/wheels7.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/tiller2nv/Martesm1.jpg

[camaro2nv]

Heres some door vents we made for the car
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/tiller2nv/DSC_0403.jpg
And the firewall almost finished
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/tiller2nv/DSC_0382-1.jpg

[waynieZ]

Your progress is looking good.

[70rs]

The car is looking good! I really like those wheels too.
I'm guessing you are WAY into fishing with the collection of rods on the wall in the first few pics of this thread. It's good therapy for me too!:lol:
Keep the updates coming, can't wait to see more.

[tones2SS]

Coming along well.
Wheels look nice too!! Keep us posted.:thumbsup: :cheers:

[camaro2nv]

Yep Im hooked on Bass,lol. My fishing has made this project longer then it needs to be. I have a baby girl due in Aug. With that coming Im going to sell the boat and put the 20k into the car. I figure with the car in the garage Ill be close to home to look after the baby. Should work out well.
So the car is going to be getting a lot of love! Ive bought all the big stuff needed. Im sure Ill find a way to make that 20k go away,lol:lol:

[camaro2nv]

Oh BTW Frank got me a good price on the Morrison rear clip. As soon as I get home Ill measure my axle length and get my order in. Looks like a task to install it. But at least I can look forward to having a roller and do some bodywork! Heres a pic of the Morrison
http://www.artmorrison.com/albums/Camaro-FrontClip/IMG_3206.sized.jpg

[70rs]

I am hooked on Bass too. Out on my buddies 21ft Ranger every time he calls.
That rear set up is nice. Almost ready to roll around!
I imagine another 20k could get swallowed up easy if you hang around this site too much.:lol:
Congrats on the new addition to the family! Roseville is nice, good place to raise 'em.

[camaro2nv]

I cut the lip off the wheel wells today. I left 1/4 inch of lip. Im going to weld in a piece of round bar to finish it up.
I placed the rear wheels under the car so I could get a measurement for my rear end. Its 54 1/2 to the center of each pad. Tomorrow I call and order my Morrison rear end! Woo hoo
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/tiller2nv/DSC_0062-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/tiller2nv/DSC_0064.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/tiller2nv/DSC_0066-1.jpg

[Reckley]

Very cool project!! Keep up the good work.

Show us some more of that rear clip install.

Mike

[Young Gun]

looks awesome!

[camaro2nv]

Well got the call today. The shipping company called and said my "car frame" was ready for pickup. I ran down to the yard and they loaded it up. This baby is nice! Morrison did a heck of a job! A second shipment should follow soon. It will have the axles and gears.

[awr68]

NICE!! :thumbsup: :woot:

[tones2SS]

Very nice. Looks nice & beefy!:thumbsup:

[Ricochet]

Looks great! Morrison = Quality! :thumbsup:

[Rybar]

Those wheels and mock-up stance look great. So does the AM rear frame. :thumbsup:

[camaro2nv]

Thanks guys! I got started tonight. I started drilling out the spot welds on the rear frame rails. I got 95% of them drilled out. Man what a pain in the arse! I think the spot weld guy at the factory went nuts on my car,lol. I should have the Morrison in by next week. I hope! Frank, wheres those gears and axles,lol

[gearheadgarage]

Sweet looking project- don't know why I never saw it on the board before, my bad. By the way, it was a pleasure meeting you--- J

[camaro2nv]

Sweet looking project- don't know why I never saw it on the board before, my bad. By the way, it was a pleasure meeting you--- J

You also J, you guys have some good lookin projects going on around your shop! How close is that silver 69??

Ok I got the rear frame rails out. They didnt go without a fight! I did notice a few rusted out holes in the rear floor pan. I think Ill just replace it before I put the Morrison in.
Heres a side by side shot
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/tiller2nv/DSC_0183.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/tiller2nv/DSC_0182.jpg

[70rs]

It is amazing looking at the factory vs Morrison rails side by side. Just thinking about the abuse the factory rails put up with in our cars, how did they even hold up?

If you send me your e mail in a PM I will forward the fish pics from Friday nights trip. Got a few nice ones!

[tones2SS]

It is amazing looking at the factory vs Morrison rails side by side. Just thinking about the abuse the factory rails put up with in our cars, how did they even hold up?

Yeah, I agree Eric. A little bit of a difference huh?!?!:wow:
She should handle WAY better now!:cheers:

[70rs]

It is such a difference that now I have to reconsider what I am doing to the back of my car. Geez! Thanks for buying such cool parts, now it's going to cost even more to build mine!:rofl:

[GregWeld]

Glad you like the Forgiatos!! Here they are on my M5 !! Too funny!!

I had them painted to match the Black Sapphire but did Chromed hoops...

http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/gregweld/M5%20with%20Forgiatos/DSC_4168.jpg

[rwhite692]

Not to Hijack but Greg - I like your taste in trucks! - Rob

[GregWeld]

Not to Hijack but Greg - I like your taste in trucks! - Rob


Rob -- You just can't have too much truck!!

My truck problem is that it doesn't get driven 'enough'... Most of it's milage is hiway hauling Calfornia and Az and back to the Pacific NorthWET.

Tell you what though -- It has the full Gale Banks 6 gun BIG HOSS bundle -- GPS -- Killer stereo - 500 watt CB -- and Radar detector -- and it can HAUL...

EEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!

But my tailgate is whimpy... :bow:

[camaro2nv]

Good taste! I love the wheels. Nice thing about Forgiato's is they offer them in sooo many different ways.

BIG thanks to Frank! He did a lot of ground work for me today. He also gave me a heck of a deal on my order today.
Ordered this stuff today.
Wilwood 14 inch front and rear brakes in blue with reverse masters
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u212/ProdigyCustoms/DSC_0013-1.jpg
Bad Boy radiator with built in condenser
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u212/ProdigyCustoms/DSC_0122.jpg
Billet Specialties in black with PS/AC for the LS2
http://www.jegs.com/images/photos/100/135/135-BLK13220_2.jpg
Ididit column
http://www.speedwaymotors.com/RS/SR/Product/4461232D_L.jpg

AND

Ordered the T56 Magnum kit from Keisler
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii222/skeisler1968/67-69Camaro-FirebirdT56MAGNUM_A.jpg

[awr68]

Now that's a fun day and a lot of nice parts!! :thumbsup:

[camaro2nv]

Sunday afternoon, time to put some work in. Boy this Morrison rear clip fits like a glove. It fit so tight I dont know how measurements could be off. I still have to weld it in but I got it in place for now.
Raise the rear first to get it in place.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/tiller2nv/DSC_0186.jpg
Little bit from the front and rear jacks now
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/tiller2nv/DSC_0187.jpg
Added a ratchet strap to help with the one man show,lol
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/tiller2nv/DSC_0189.jpg
3.2.1....
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/tiller2nv/DSC_0191.jpg
CONTACT!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/tiller2nv/DSC_0192.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/tiller2nv/DSC_0192.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/tiller2nv/DSC_0197.jpg
These are the only two holes you need to drill on each side. That way you can get to the nut
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/tiller2nv/DSC_0202.jpg
Thats it for now. Later on when it cools off in the garage Ill tack it in pace and put the rear axle in place. 105 outside is just too hot, I bet the garage is 120.:cheers:

[70rs]

VERY NICE!! I just saw the parts list you ordered too. Sweet! That is a good day of shopping! Was it all one call to Frank? The front drive and radiator are awesome, as well as the brake system and trans packages. The car is going to be killer when done! Keep the pics and info coming please. I'm subscribed. :thumbsup:

[tones2SS]

Very cool.
Awesome parts list. Looks like Frank's the man to talk to!!:thumbsup:

[camaro2nv]

Ok so got the rear end mounted. Man she looks good! Cant wait to get the tru track in!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/tiller2nv/DSC_0206.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/tiller2nv/DSC_0207.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/tiller2nv/DSC_0208.jpg
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/tiller2nv/DSC_0214.jpg

[waynieZ]

Sweet looking system..

[Steve1968LS2]

Nice build...

Make sure you get the Magnum with the 2.66 first gear and .64 6th gear.. it's the best option and it's what I'm running. You will love the Magnum.

[camaro2nv]

Thanks Steve, I just called and Im all good! Thanks for the help.

[camaro2nv]

Spectra fuel tank just came in! What a deal, 480.00 with the pump!
Man I love Craigslist, I found a Speedtech Sub frame. After spending 22k in parts this month it wasnt in my budget right now. But a deal is a deal and I need all the help I can get. Time to dip into the savings. I put a deposit on it and this weekend Ill make the four hour trip.
Looks like Ill have a roller soon!!!!!:cheers: :lateral:

[GregWeld]

Hey!! Money's no good if you don't spend it... LOL

I mean - that's why you get up and go to work - to earn money - you earn money so that you have some to spend! So you're just doing what you're supposed to do! Right?

My wife only follows this logic if she's at Nordstrom. It doesn't apply to car parts.

[70rs]

Yeah! Why is it ok at Nordys but not at Summit??

[awr68]

Congrats on the ST frame....and all the other killer parts as well! Can't wait to see it as a roller!! :thumbsup:

[70rs]

What vendor did you get the Spectra tank from? That is a killer price and I wouldn't mind picking one up myself.

[camaro2nv]

Heres a link for the tank

http://www.rockauto.com/
Best thing to do is call them.

[70rs]

Thanks for the link.:thumbsup:
There are some really good deals on that site. For the car and my bike. Very cool!

[camaro2nv]

Got a call today from Fedex. Looks like the Magnum Trans will be here Monday:yes: Now I can get that LS2 off the create stand and get them paired up.
After getting the rear clip tacked in I put the DSE tubs in there locations. I didnt care for the way they hide the Morrison frame rail. I want them to butt up to the rail and not overlap it. Im also running 345mm rear tires. I need all the room I can get. So I pulled out the poster board and started cutting it up. Heres what I came out with. This part has been fun for me because Ive never done fab work like this. Its givin me some time behind the welder. Its not welded in yet, I wanted some feedback first. Thoughts??
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/tiller2nv/DSC_0218.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/tiller2nv/DSC_0217.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/tiller2nv/DSC_0220.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/tiller2nv/DSC_0223.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/tiller2nv/DSC_0225.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/tiller2nv/DSC_0227.jpg
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/tiller2nv/DSC_0235.jpg

[slamdimpala]

I think it looks good. How much do you have to narrow your back seats ?

[Vegas69]

:cheers: Nice work man.

[Mrfixit]

Looks good. Do you have any plans to notch the top of outer wheelhouses?

[camaro2nv]

Magnum trans came today:thumbsup: But I guess the cluth and flywheel is on BO. Story of my life. I also got the other tub done. I want to weld em in sooo bad but I know its best to wait for my brakes and axles so I can get the wheels under the car first to make sure everything is a ok.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/tiller2nv/DSC_0306.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/tiller2nv/DSC_03072.jpg

[BritishGreen68]

your car is going to be sick man i cant wait to it mocked up with all the wheels, mine is similar... 20's all the way around with air ride..

[camaro2nv]

Thanks, I hope so!
I decided to change the color,again lol. For now this is it. With all the CF bits it should look really nice.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/tiller2nv/fFNyogWEKGrHgoH-DcEkJw2KwwWBKcGcnkR.jpg

[HWY Nova]

You, Mr. camaro2nv, are having way too much fun with this build. Keep up the great work!


--Eric

[tones2SS]

Thanks, I hope so!
I decided to change the color,again lol. For now this is it. With all the CF bits it should look really nice.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v19/tiller2nv/fFNyogWEKGrHgoH-DcEkJw2KwwWBKcGcnkR.jpg

I agree. But, then again, I'm biased. Keep us posted.:cheers:

[70rs]

The car is coming along great! Nice parts just keep coming too!
Thanks for posting everything. It's great to see all the pro builds in the shops, I love 'em. But it really hits home when I see a guy making it all happen in his own garage. It motivates me big time! Keep it coming!:cheers:

[camaro2nv]

Parts update, I got the ATS Spindles and oil pan today. The Ididit is coming tomorrow along with the axles and center section. I also placed a order for the AutoKraft engine mounts for the LS2. Parts are coming in slower them a turtle! I made a change on the brakes to the greatest and latest,lol.
I started to put the speedtech together when I noticed that the last owner didnt include any nuts or bolts. So tomorrow Ill go pick some up. Ill have a updated picture tomorrow. :woot:

[70rs]

No nuts?? I hate that!!:rofl:

[awr68]

Sweet! How did you get the spindles so fast? I thought your order didn't go threw?

Keep up the good work and killer shopping skills! ;) :thumbsup: :woot:

[camaro2nv]

Tyler got me back on the list because of what happened. :hail: The pan is pretty killer also but the gasket and AN fittings had to come from someone else. I hope to see them by next week. With the baby on the way at the end of the month I just feel the need to get done as much as I can now. I would like to have the car on the ground by then.

[70rs]

I had forgotten about the baby coming. That is great!! Keep us posted on that please. I hope everything goes well.

[camaro2nv]

Thanks, Im a bit freaked out. The wife and I have had 15 years of freedom so its going to take some getting use to.
Well just went and bought bolts for the subframe, 48.00! Man its a good thing I got the frame for 3500.00 The odds and ends are adding up.

[tones2SS]

Well just went and bought bolts for the subframe, 48.00! Man its a good thing I got the frame for 3500.00 The odds and ends are adding up.

They always do!!!
Congrats on your wife's pregnancy as well!:cheers:

[Vegas69]

A new baby and a camaro project. You are going to be one busy dude. I'd guess they will both be well worth the trouble. :thumbsup:

[70rs]

Thanks, Im a bit freaked out. The wife and I have had 15 years of freedom so its going to take some getting use to.
Well just went and bought bolts for the subframe, 48.00! Man its a good thing I got the frame for 3500.00 The odds and ends are adding up.

Don't freak out. It will be the best kind of change you could ever imagine. (except the first few months of ZERO sleep). But after that it is awesome, even the sleepless nights ( i hope you don't have that many) are really worth it.

Those extras do add up quick huh? It's all those little things that are required, just can't get away from that. It's coming together nice though. I tell ya, I know I have been wanting to do the level of shopping you've done recently!! I imagine there are alot of guys reading this thread that wish they could too. Serious power shopping!:thumbsup:

[camaro2nv]

Don't freak out. It will be the best kind of change you could ever imagine. (except the first few months of ZERO sleep). But after that it is awesome, even the sleepless nights ( i hope you don't have that many) are really worth it.

Those extras do add up quick huh? It's all those little things that are required, just can't get away from that. It's coming together nice though. I tell ya, I know I have been wanting to do the level of shopping you've done recently!! I imagine there are alot of guys reading this thread that wish they could too. Serious power shopping!:thumbsup:
I keep on hearing about the no sleep thing. That will be tough! As for the change I think it will be a good one. Its time to slow down a bit, Im sure she'll make us,lol.
Ok took off a hour early to get the Subframe together. Turns out Im missing a couple key bolts for the sway bar. But all in all its very close.
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[awr68]

Looking good! Deffinatly a lot of nice parts on this car!! :thumbsup:

Congrats on becoming a father very soon! I remember thrashing on my car trying to get as much done as possible before my son was born....I promissed to take a year off of the car once he was born...that year actually flew right by! We were married for 10 years before deciding to have a child....I kinda know what you are going threw...trust me it's worth it! :cheers:

[tones2SS]

Looking good.:thumbsup:

[camaro2nv]

Got home to find my Detroit tru trac came today along with the axles. Just got finished putting it in. Now Im just waiting for my brakes so I can put the wheels on this bad boy!
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[awr68]

dig it! Come on, you don't need brakes to roll it around and most importantly take much needed pics!! :D

[camaro2nv]

dig it! Come on, you don't need brakes to roll it around and most importantly take much needed pics!! :D

HAHAHA I know Im bad with the pics. Its going to be real bad when its a roller! I cant wait!

[Flash68]

Awesome build. Love the different choice of wheels and color. Don't see many Forgiatos on muscle cars! :thumbsup:

You must be close to Gearhead Garage where my car is being finished. Hope to see your whip soon!

[Ricochet]

Looking great! Congrats on the baby coming soon! Enjoy what little freedom you have left!! :lol: Trust me - it all worth it! :thumbsup:

[70rs]

Looking great! Congrats on the baby coming soon! Enjoy what little freedom you have left!! :lol: Trust me - it all worth it! :thumbsup:

X2 what he said^^^:cheers:

[camaro2nv]

Awesome build. Love the different choice of wheels and color. Don't see many Forgiatos on muscle cars! :thumbsup:

You must be close to Gearhead Garage where my car is being finished. Hope to see your whip soon!

Yeah I live about seven miles from them. I saw your car there about three weeks ago. I love the black wheels with the silver. Its lookin good! Looks like your in good hands with Jason. :thumbsup:

[Flash68]

Yeah I live about seven miles from them. I saw your car there about three weeks ago. I love the black wheels with the silver. Its lookin good! Looks like your in good hands with Jason. :thumbsup:

thanks man. we plan on taking our cars to Sac Raceway soon when they are done (Jason's vert and mine)... maybe you can join us!

Keep up the great work. Very cool project.

[camaro2nv]

thanks man. we plan on taking our cars to Sac Raceway soon when they are done (Jason's vert and mine)... maybe you can join us!

Keep up the great work. Very cool project.

Let me know Ill be there.

[camaro2nv]

Big thanks to Blake for hooking me up with the rest of the missing stuff on the sub. I also ordered the ball joint caps and steering shaft kit and of yeah:unibrow: The stainless works headers:thumbsup:

[camaro2nv]

Well back in the garage! The baby has been napping so I sneak away to do some work.
Im still waiting for all my other parts to roll in. Willwood sent me the rears but Im still waiting on the fronts. These are the W4A, from what Frank told me these are the first to go on a rear or a car. They are BIG! The rotors are 14in and calipers are 11in long. I picked black because I want them to match the car color. So they will be painted to match. The fronts are W6A with a 14.25 rotor. Ill post them once I get em.
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I have to do more work to get the rear wheels on. Seems the bore size is off by a hair! Its very close, I might just do some sanding to get them to go on.

[GregWeld]

Love the brakes!

Hey -- in the beginning of this post - your car is shown with some "tubs" on the ground in one of the pics ... then later on you show building your own... What happened to cause that?

Still love those Forgiatos! :>)

[Vegas69]

Nice.....do yourself a favor and make sure you don't have a brake pad knock back issue on the rear end. You will need a dial indicator and must remove the brake pads. I don't know if the issue has been resolved with the axle retainer that wilwood provides yet or not? Now is the time to deal with it if there is a problem.

[camaro2nv]

Love the brakes!

Hey -- in the beginning of this post - your car is shown with some "tubs" on the ground in one of the pics ... then later on you show building your own... What happened to cause that?

Still love those Forgiatos! :>)
I ended up going with the Morrison rear clip. With the new rails I wanted something that would butt up to the rails, cleaner look. I cant get that with the DSE tubs. Im also running a 345 rear tire. I need all the room I can get! The goal is to weld the new tubbs to the rails and grind smooth. Then finish them out and paint the underside the body color.

[camaro2nv]

Nice.....do yourself a favor and make sure you don't have a brake pad knock back issue on the rear end. You will need a dial indicator and must remove the brake pads. I don't know if the issue has been resolved with the axle retainer that wilwood provides yet or not? Now is the time to deal with it if there is a problem.
Hmm should I just use the one Morrison sent? Its thicker. Nothing is set as of yet. This is just mock up.

[GregWeld]

I ended up going with the Morrison rear clip. With the new rails I wanted something that would butt up to the rails, cleaner look. I cant get that with the DSE tubs. Im also running a 345 rear tire. I need all the room I can get! The goal is to weld the new tubbs to the rails and grind smooth. Then finish them out and paint the underside the body color.

Ah ha.... makes sense!!

[Vegas69]

Hmm should I just use the one Morrison sent? Its thicker. Nothing is set as of yet. This is just mock up.

Are they specifically for a wilwood setup? I tweaked one of my wilwood retainers a hair. I ended up with a set of currie retainers that go all the way around the bearing. On mine you could see the bearing move away from the retaining clip with your bare eyes! I had over .020 on both sides. I was able to get it down to .005 and .006 with the currie plates. Do yourself a favor an measure it now while it's mocked up. Wilwood was working on a new design when I talked to them 2 months ago. The new design was shimmable.

[70rs]

Wow! Monster brakes!! Looking great Steve! I must have missed it, but what is the final color going to be?

Is the baby letting YOU sleep yet??:lol:
Just wait. Someday she will be changing your diapers and loosing sleep taking care of you. What goes around comes around. :rofl:

[camaro2nv]

Are they specifically for a wilwood setup? I tweaked one of my wilwood retainers a hair. I ended up with a set of currie retainers that go all the way around the bearing. On mine you could see the bearing move away from the retaining clip with your bare eyes! I had over .020 on both sides. I was able to get it down to .005 and .006 with the currie plates. Do yourself a favor an measure it now while it's mocked up. Wilwood was working on a new design when I talked to them 2 months ago. The new design was shimmable.

Will do, thanks for the info!
Ok Ok so I could wait, I had to put a wheel on. I did a little sanding, not much and it slipped on. My axle if off but I wanted to get a wheel on,lol
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[camaro2nv]

Wow! Monster brakes!! Looking great Steve! I must have missed it, but what is the final color going to be?

Is the baby letting YOU sleep yet??:lol:
Just wait. Someday she will be changing your diapers and loosing sleep taking care of you. What goes around comes around. :rofl:
Man I keep changing the color. Im not going to say anymore until I get close paint because I keep on changing it.
Little bit of sleep, but not much. Man I cant wait to get 7 hours sleep again.:D

[70rs]

Man I keep changing the color. Im not going to say anymore until I get close paint because I keep on changing it.
Little bit of sleep, but not much. Man I cant wait to get 7 hours sleep again.:D

I understand about the color thing. I am bouncing around a little too. But there is a lot to do before that needs to be decided.

That wheel looks great on there!

[waynieZ]

The wheel looks sweet. Your doing some nice work .

[Alex396ss]

Lookin´good man!

Keep up the great work!

:cheers:

Alex

[tones2SS]

Looking good man. Those are some HUGE brakes. The wheels look good on that car as well.
Good luck and keep us posted.:thumbsup:

[ProdigyCustoms]

Badd ass indeed. You are the first ever to recieve those monsters for a live axle. I will be second for one of my projects.

I love the Lambo Orange idea. We just did mMichaels Mustang Magic Black and Lambo Orange two tone.

I was thinking about this theme for my next Camaro, but if you beat me too it.......Oh well.

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[waynieZ]

Frank thats the orange I'm thinking of useing on my 69. just not two tone.

[Rybar]

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Wheels/tires and stance look sick. Nice move trying something different. Looks absolutely killer :thumbsup:

[camaro2nv]

Little bit of a parts update. So I called Blake from Speedtech about some bolts for the front clip. That let to ordering Speedtech headers made by Stainless works. I also ordered the steering shaft kit and ball joint covers.
Next is the Auto Rad Radiator slash core support. Man what a work of art! This thing is bad arse!
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[Flash68]

Nice stuff! Yeah that radiator support thingy looks pretty sick! :thumbsup:

[Vegas69]

Sick dude....you may want to spray the front of the support semi gloss though. That is a ton of aluminum with all the grill space we have.

[awr68]

Sweet! :cheers:

[tones2SS]

Nice stuff! Yeah that radiator support thingy looks pretty sick! :thumbsup:

You said it Dave. The headers look killer as well.:thumbsup:

[camaro2nv]

Sick dude....you may want to spray the front of the support semi gloss though. That is a ton of aluminum with all the grill space we have.

The idea is to find someone that can anodize it black. If I cant find someone Ill just shoot it.

[Ron Fox]

Nice build. What brand of wheels do you have?

[camaro2nv]

Nice build. What brand of wheels do you have?

Wheels are www.forgiato.com

[daryld]

I know you have a while before you finish your project camaro, but when you finish, if you could post a list of the parts you used, including the vendors and price, it would be greatly appreciated. It would help us beginners out tremendously. Thanks. Awesome ride!!!

[awr68]

The idea is to find someone that can anodize it black. If I cant find someone Ill just shoot it.


This was posted in my intercooler thread as I was talking about anodizing mine.

"Be careful. The advice I have gotten from the folks at Ron Davis is that anodizing is not an option due to the cooling fins being too thin. They have seen several radiators ruined this way."

I think I will just paint mine if I still want it black....:cheers:

[camaro2nv]

This was posted in my intercooler thread as I was talking about anodizing mine.

"Be careful. The advice I have gotten from the folks at Ron Davis is that anodizing is not an option due to the cooling fins being too thin. They have seen several radiators ruined this way."

I think I will just paint mine if I still want it black....:cheers:
The plan is to just do the core support.

[camaro2nv]

Well my front brakes came in today:thumbsup: Still waiting for the master, lines ect. But atleast Im able to get the front wheels on. Man I nailed fitment on this package! These are the W6 Wilwoods, they are BIG! But who would have know they would fill out the 19's on the front so well. Look how close the Caliper is to the rim! JUST PERFECT! I also got the motor/trans pretty much in. Tomorrow Ill go over a couple things and call it good enough for mock up.
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[G-Body]

Damn those wheels look sooooooo good on that baby! wow

[awr68]

Bad Ass!! :thumbsup:

[Flash68]

that looks so killer. those black rotors and those wheels look great together!

[68/Camaro]

Excellent Project!!!:thumbsup: Wheels are Bad A$$!!!!

[tones2SS]

Looks killer.
Good job with the fitment as well. Can't wait to see this project when complete.:lateral: :cheers:

[camaro2nv]

After 3 months of waiting my Billet Specialties tru track came in. After doing the install Im very happy with the kit, just awesome! Kt also comes with a edelbrock water pump. I also got the motor mounted and headers bolted on.
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[GregWeld]

Yeah -- Billet Specialties make NICE product!

I had to call them to see what size the O rings they used were -- and they said no problem - we'll just send you some! Gotta like a manufacturer like that!!

Love the black anodizing!

[customcam]

Great Build
Do you have any pics from the rear? :)

[waynieZ]

Your car is comming out great . That tru track is sweet.

[70rs]

That looks really good Steve. Your car is going to be killer when it's done.
:cheers:

[camaro2nv]

Great Build
Do you have any pics from the rear? :)

Nothing yet. Need to finish up a few things on the rear end first.

[tones2SS]

Very cool. Keep up the good work.
That's the money shot right there!!:cheers:

[BritishGreen68]

Do you have 19's on the front or 20's? They look like 20's but i read you said the 19's barely cleared the brakes..What tire sizes are you running front and rear?

[camaro2nv]

The last time my car rolled into my garage was a year ago. Its SO nice to see it on all four wheels again. I know I still have a LONG way to go but I feel like Ive accomplished something with this bad boy. :)
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[awr68]

Looks killer sitting there! I remember those mock-up days....lots of fun seeing your vision come to life!! :thumbsup:

[70rs]

It looks just killer there Steve! Way to go! :cheers:

[waynieZ]

The car looks great . Your lucky, I would just like to see my car again.

[camaro2nv]

The car looks great . Your lucky, I would just like to see my car again.

Thanks! Thats why Im doing everything on this car myself, including paint. If it doesnt get done it will be my fault:lol:

[Flash68]

looks mean and low like that. its getting there! :thumbsup: :woot:

[Rybar]

That thing looks so badass sitting there. Great job Steve :thumbsup:

[tones2SS]

Great shot!
Car looks mean and ready for business.:thumbsup:

[EpikRider]

Excellent looking car so far man...and thanks for changing my mind on the 68 instead of the 69!!!

[camaro2nv]

nm changed

[70rs]

^^^^very Nice^^^^

[waynieZ]

Those are sweet!

[camaro2nv]

Well Ive had many changes happen in my life. Looks like I might be selling the project. If anyone is looking for a builder with many nice parts please pass the word along.
Heres a list of parts and what they cost.
WHEELS $6,000.00
MOTOR/W ECU $6,000.00
SUBFRAME W/AIR RIDE $7,000.00
REAR SUBFRAME COMPLETE $7,000.00
BRAKES $5,500.00
TRANS $5,000.00
RS GRILL KIT $500.00
CORE SUPPORT $1,500.00
OIL PAN $550.00
MOTOR MOUNTS $200.00
PULLEY KIT $2,600.00
VINTAGE AIR $1,000.00
ATS SPINDLES $1,000.00
STAINLESS WORKS HEADERS $1,000.00
BODY MOUNTS $100.00
IDIDIT STEERING SHAFT $350.00
ODDS AND ENDS $1,000.00
HOOD HINDGES $750.00
MINI TUBS $400.00
GAS TANK $500.00

$47,950.00
This is what I have into it without the cost of the car. Make me a good offer and its yours.

[Ricochet]

Hope everything is alright for the most part! Been following this build for sometime. Kick ass project! Whoever buys this is car will have it easy. Most of the hard work and research have already been done.

[waynieZ]

Sorry to hear your selling. You've done a beautiful job on it. Good luck with the sale and hope everything works out for you.

[gearheads78]

Sorry to hear your selling. You've done a beautiful job on it. Good luck with the sale and hope everything works out for you.

x2 was looking forward to the finished pics

[Rybar]

Sorry to hear Steve, I was really liking your project. Family comes first, you can always build another car. :cheers:

[camaro2nv]

Sorry guys. I think it will be hard to find a buyer. If I dont sell it I might hire a buddy to help me finish it. The goal was to build this car myself all the way down to the paint. But looks like my health is getting in the way. Its a real bummer. Ive been fighting my injury for so long and it seems to be winning.

[dlouie87]

I hope all is well. I just now read through every page of this build. Awesome build and great choice of parts. I like the stance and the uniqueness of your wheels. and hope you can finish this car.:thumbsup:

-Dan

[awr68]

Steve, best of luck to ya! It would be nice if you could have your friend help...do what you have to do...but try to keep it, it's a bad ass car!! :cheers: