1000 hp Toyota Supra powered Camaro

[texas56]

This is a project a buddy of mine has been working on. Pretty cool car.

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/EVS-Motors-2JZ-Camaro-SS_193458.htm?ref=5ac8bbed-7459-4810-b04a-9af000e9e642

[Vegas69]

Different strokes for different folks. :D Definitely hauls aise!

[lil427z]

love it.
rick k:lateral: :cheers: :woot:

[01somta]

I really like hte console!! Do you have any actual pics of the console?

[dmc69]

thats a nice ride!

[ItDoRun]

Different, but really cool! I bet it's a monster to drive on the street.

[camaro2nv]

Holy shiet! Dont mess with a Supra!

[rogue]

That cars been complete for almost 6 months and not a single performance figure but dyno pulls.

its my understanding the owner also has:

'68 Camaro RS/SS Big Block 454 Old Fashion Carb
'69 Camaro RS/SS Big Block 502 Fuel Injected
'69 Camaro RS/SS Twin Turbocharged 383ci FI

Theres a reason theres no performance figures. :lol:

dyno queen.

[rich-allen]

Sacrilege!

[Ummgawa]

Sacrilege!

X2. BLASPHEMY.

[XcYZ]

The 2JZ Camaro is back and making more power than ever! Dyno Video and Quick Driving Clip! New upgrades include; aggressive stage 2 camshafts, Brian Crower Chrome Silicone Alloy Springs and Titanium Retainers, the rev limit raised to 8,500RPM, boost raised to 37psi and an open exhaust flow. The car now dynos 823RWHP which equals 1,029BHP at the motor!

20% drivetrain loss with a manual trans?

What does it run in the quarter? I'd be real interested in what the car weighs, too.

What does it have for suspension?

[Rybar]

Cool Camaro and I like it. Definately outside of the box thinking. :thumbsup:

[rogue]

I asked him the same thing on the forum the builder (EVS Motors) hangs out on and he will not answer. I don't think the car is mini tubbed either so good luck getting any power to the ground. The exhaust tips are terrible too. And no performance numbers because he says the owner isn't interested in those performance numbers. Ha.

the guys been blowing smoke about this car for almost a year... The fact that he refuses to even pit it against one of his other 3 first gen camaros says plenty to me.... I think this cars more of a promotional tool for his company EVS than anything. It was built for shock value and dyno pulls. Nothing else. Just like MANY supras....

There are plenty of amazingly quick supras out there, but also plenty dyno queens.

[SteveMcqueenRules]

pointless.

[TonyG]

Seems like a waste of money to me when you could spend less money and have a LSX turbo'd making as much if not more.

[texas56]

Well we took the Camaro out on its first road trip yesterday. It was very interesting. The trip was about 200 miles one way and it did really good. We actually ran down a sport bike on the way there(he pulled up in front and wanted to run see if we could keep up. Then on the way home there was a group of about 8 more sport bikes and we were with them all the way neck and neck from a roll up to about 120 mph and we ran up on another car so had to slow down. It is amazing how the car pulls when the turbo spools up. And best part was it was only set at about 600 to 700 hp.Once the chassis is dialed in and slicks on it, it should run very well. I tried to get more pics but couldnt really take any good ones.The power this 6 cyl makes is really unbelieveable. It takes off like a rocket ship from 70 mph.

[rich-allen]

I think the back of that car looks just like a Kawasaki with those pipes.

[elitecustombody]

I'd like to see the dyno screen with some numbers,1000 hp with 2.5 inch downpipe :lol:

[EVS Motors Inc.]

I'd like to see the dyno screen with some numbers,1000 hp with 2.5 inch downpipe :lol:

I don't usually post much, but a comment like this I couldn't resist. I find it entertaining that some people like to make comments on things they don't know anything about. The joy of the internet know it all. So how do you measure the downpipe on your computer monitor? Do you have some special program that allows you to put it in at the correct real life scale? What a useful too, can you share it with us? Have a nice day. :rolleyes:

[camaro2nv]

I know people build cars to fit the owner. Someone PLEASE tell this guy to change that exhaust!

[EVS Motors Inc.]

I know people build cars to fit the owner. Someone PLEASE tell this guy to change that exhaust!

Any suggestions? We are open minded. ;)

[elitecustombody]

I don't usually post much, but a comment like this I couldn't resist. I find it entertaining that some people like to make comments on things they don't know anything about. The joy of the internet know it all. So how do you measure the downpipe on your computer monitor? Do you have some special program that allows you to put it in at the correct real life scale? What a useful too, can you share it with us? Have a nice day. :rolleyes:

didn't mean to get you all worked up, Actually I know quite alot about 2JZ and MKIV's,I only own 5 of them,post the actual dyno results and people may stop making comments on something they actually know alot about,especially on supraforums:unibrow:

[EVS Motors Inc.]

Here are some pictures for those that want to see it. These pics were before the big brake upgrade and some other exterior enhancements. It will be on Hot Rod magazine soon!

http://www.evsmotors.com/vehicleinventory/chevrolet/camaro/67-evscam2jz01/001.jpg

http://www.evsmotors.com/vehicleinventory/chevrolet/camaro/67-evscam2jz01/002.jpg

http://www.evsmotors.com/vehicleinventory/chevrolet/camaro/67-evscam2jz01/007.jpg

http://www.evsmotors.com/vehicleinventory/chevrolet/camaro/67-evscam2jz01/045.jpg

http://www.evsmotors.com/vehicleinventory/chevrolet/camaro/67-evscam2jz01/062.jpg

[EVS Motors Inc.]

http://www.evsmotors.com/vehicleinventory/chevrolet/camaro/67-evscam2jz01/097.jpg

http://www.evsmotors.com/vehicleinventory/chevrolet/camaro/67-evscam2jz01/114.jpg

http://www.evsmotors.com/vehicleinventory/chevrolet/camaro/67-evscam2jz01/115.jpg

http://www.evsmotors.com/vehicleinventory/chevrolet/camaro/67-evscam2jz01/138.jpg

http://www.evsmotors.com/vehicleinventory/chevrolet/camaro/67-evscam2jz01/137.jpg

[EVS Motors Inc.]

didn't mean to get you all worked up, Actually I know quite alot about 2JZ and MKIV's,I only own 5 of them,post the actual dyno results and people may stop making comments on something they actually know alot about,especially on supraforums:unibrow:

Been posted already on the other forums, just not here. I'm not saying you don't know a lot about Supras I'm sure you do. But you cannot justify the size of something based on a picture on the internet. I own several Supras as well so you and I do know the formula to make power, its understood. Have a good one.

[EVS Motors Inc.]

Well we took the Camaro out on its first road trip yesterday. It was very interesting. The trip was about 200 miles one way and it did really good. We actually ran down a sport bike on the way there(he pulled up in front and wanted to run see if we could keep up. Then on the way home there was a group of about 8 more sport bikes and we were with them all the way neck and neck from a roll up to about 120 mph and we ran up on another car so had to slow down. It is amazing how the car pulls when the turbo spools up. And best part was it was only set at about 600 to 700 hp.Once the chassis is dialed in and slicks on it, it should run very well. I tried to get more pics but couldnt really take any good ones.The power this 6 cyl makes is really unbelieveable. It takes off like a rocket ship from 70 mph.

Thanks for the nice remarks. It was a cool bunch to cruise with.

The sport bikes guys weren't quite surprised they got pulled on by a 41 year old Camaro. ;) Never seen that happen before. They were a cool bunch and brave! One of them turned sideways while riding and bowed down with both hands off the bike! Nuts!

[camaro2nv]

Car is amazzzzing! Can you please email me larger pics to [email protected]
I just think when you can see the smaller exhaust pipe going into a bigger tip it just looks funny.

[deuce_454]

damn ! ill take one! only thing id change is the exhaust... everything else is super tight and clean.. the stance and look is KILLER... and then the exhaust tips just hangs down 1/4 inch too much and stick out 1/2 inch too long... its very import to have aftermarket parts "advertized" but on a 1. gen i think less is more

suggestions you say.. i would tuck two brushed or ceramic coaled 3 or 3.5 inch tailpipes and end them with a slant cut turndown... or let them exit thru the lower rear quarter

[EVS Motors Inc.]

Car is amazzzzing! Can you please email me larger pics to [email protected]
I just think when you can see the smaller exhaust pipe going into a bigger tip it just looks funny.

I'll post up some once the magazine is released. They really don't want me to give it too much exposure till it hits the newsstands.

damn ! ill take one! only thing id change is the exhaust... everything else is super tight and clean.. the stance and look is KILLER... and then the exhaust tips just hangs down 1/4 inch too much and stick out 1/2 inch too long... its very import to have aftermarket parts "advertized" but on a 1. gen i think less is more

suggestions you say.. i would tuck two brushed or ceramic coaled 3 or 3.5 inch tailpipes and end them with a slant cut turndown... or let them exit thru the lower rear quarter

We will take all your opinions into consideration. Thanks!

[WSSix]

Agreed. The exhaust just doesn't flow with the car's lines. The one picture makes it look like the angle the exhaust makes doesn't parallel the angle of the rear quarter. Maybe it's the picture though.

Another suggestion if you'd prefer to not cut on the car any more. Simple and sweet turn downs right behind the rear wheels. No tips just use stainless that won't rust or corrode. I say this because the car does not need any tips to look good. It has so much else going for it why take that attention away on exhaust tips? I'll be looking for the Hot Rod issue. Any idea on which month?

[Derek Miller]

Absolutely love the car. I have been a Supra fan for many years. I have owned my 68 camaro for about ten years now and have been saying for a long time how a Supra motor would be a great transplant into a first gen camaro. I am glad to see that someone has finally done it. The interior in the car is just amazing, one of the best custom interiors I have every seen. The only question that I have is why you didn’t mini tub the car? It would look great wearing a set of 345/25 R20s in the back :unibrow:

[Flash68]

I agree, Derek. Minitub it and throw some 335 or 345 drag radials on there and you will get some traction. :thumbsup:

I like the all blacked out wheels.

[rich-allen]

Car looks bad ass. I love the rims and stance.

[texas56]

Hopefully if weather is good this weekend we can get some good pics and a short video out in front of the shop to show how the car performs. Looks great Ted!:thumbsup:

[EVS Motors Inc.]

Hopefully if weather is good this weekend we can get some good pics and a short video out in front of the shop to show how the car performs. Looks great Ted!:thumbsup:

Call the guy with the Aston Martin Vanquish S to come out! ;)

[EVS Motors Inc.]

Absolutely love the car. I have been a Supra fan for many years. I have owned my 68 camaro for about ten years now and have been saying for a long time how a Supra motor would be a great transplant into a first gen camaro. I am glad to see that someone has finally done it. The interior in the car is just amazing, one of the best custom interiors I have every seen. The only question that I have is why you didn’t mini tub the car? It would look great wearing a set of 345/25 R20s in the back :unibrow:

This is the first car we've done with this setup. But it isn't the last one either. You'll see more improvements on future cars.

I agree, Derek. Minitub it and throw some 335 or 345 drag radials on there and you will get some traction. :thumbsup:

I like the all blacked out wheels.

You will soon see our next project with the mini-tub and big tires up front too.

Car looks bad ass. I love the rims and stance.

Thanks!

[Flash68]

You will soon see our next project with the mini-tub and big tires up front too.


Nice. How big a tire up front?

[COYBILT]

I appreciate the effort, but I am feeling that this is heavily designed by a tuner.


I am just trying to keep quiet on this one, I am just in shock still.
:mad:

[EVS Motors Inc.]

Nice. How big a tire up front?

275mm

[Flash68]

275mm

Yep, that's the way to go!

[EVS Motors Inc.]

I appreciate the effort, but I am feeling that this is heavily designed by a tuner.


I am just trying to keep quiet on this one, I am just in shock still.
:mad:

Far from it. Been modifying muscle cars since the day we opened in 2002. We are open minded to try anything different. I'll start another thread later showing our previous projects.

[ohcbird]

I'm doing something similar, but replacing an old OHC 6 with a DOHC 4V inline 6. The basis for my swap is the Vortec 4200, which is akin to a long-stroke/large bore EcoTec. The engine that inspired me to do this swap made 1365hp with a GT47R. I'm going for streetability using a GT42R. I plan to run the living piss out of this at any event or track that I can, so I started with the chassis first.

Here's an older pic with the mock-up engine in place & modified front frame:

http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc42/hartjeff/68%20Firebird/Mar08117-1.jpg

[XcYZ]

That's the money shot right there, great looking car, great stance. :thumbsup:

I agree with everyone else's take on the exhaust, looks like a Pep Boys bolt on, totally takes away from the level at which this car was built.

How much does it weigh? Had it to the strip yet?

http://www.evsmotors.com/vehicleinventory/chevrolet/camaro/67-evscam2jz01/007.jpg

[EVS Motors Inc.]

That's the money shot right there, great looking car, great stance. :thumbsup:

I agree with everyone else's take on the exhaust, looks like a Pep Boys bolt on, totally takes away from the level at which this car was built.

How much does it weigh? Had it to the strip yet?

Well the tips are cheap thats for sure. Full stainless steel. Anyhow I'm listening to people's opinion. I'm exploring other alternatives to change the exhaust outlet style.

Haven't weight it yet. My guess is around 3,500lbs. Haven't taken it to the strip yet. Plenty of freeway pulls against sport bikes and cars, its proven itself there! lol

[city_ofthe_south]

not sure how anyone could say it "looks" like it was designed by a tuner ... no crazy exterior mods, tasteful wheels (I don't love the black set but the others are killer), killer stance. I think the two tone seats are possibly the only thing that says tuner to me, but other wise, not even in the slightest way. If you hadn't told anyone what powered it and didn't show that exhaust, all you'd have heard was praise. It's hard to say what's going to happen with energy and fuel and I'm sure it hasn't had much effect on people with money but it's going to start having at least some impact on this business some day, so I'm open to different ideas. Plus, a six banger may sound different but they can sound bad ass. Would love to hear this one.

[ArisESQ]

the only things that i think are out of place and don't really match the overall look of the car are the chrome trim and bumpers. with the modernized interior and big wheels the chrome bumpers look kinda "tacked on" and arbitrary.... doesn't really match the modern look i guess.

i think the car would look a lot cooler without the bumpers, and maybe a boom tube or something out the side. other than that i think it's pretty cool... just not my style.

https://www.drgas.net/category.php?cid=7&catid=1

but the work looks top notch!

[deuce_454]

the only things that i think are out of place and don't really match the overall look of the car are the chrome trim and bumpers. with the modernized interior and big wheels the chrome bumpers look kinda "tacked on" and arbitrary.... doesn't really match the modern look i guess.

i think the car would look a lot cooler without the bumpers, and maybe a boom tube or something out the side. other than that i think it's pretty cool... just not my style.

https://www.drgas.net/category.php?cid=7&catid=1

but the work looks top notch!

wow i totally like the untouched exterior, with the retained chrome and base trim... love that it still has locks and handles and isnt full of cage or cluttering... the stance is right on and if the exhaust had been "integrated" in the look just alittle more... or flowed with the lines i would have loved that too..

i like the nascar boom box exhaust idea..

and if i gut my maddress and find a pile of cash i would take it as it sat right there...

[ArisESQ]

yea, i like the mostly untouched exterior too. i don't think removing the bumpers would be taking away from that, but it would certainly modernize the car enough to match the interior and wheels more.

i'm not suggesting he shave the handles and remove all the window trim. maybe instead of chrome window trim, make it look more like brushed aluminum looking, and just ditch the front bumper.... and maybe replace the mirrors with second gen style mirrors.
i personally think that would look a lot better.

[EVS Motors Inc.]

We are listening. We like the idea of the bumper removal, however the problem is that this car has a huge front mount intercooler. With the front bumper removed it exposes the bottom part of the intercooler that comes out a little of the two open air dams. That makes it look funny. We could try painting the bottom part of the intercooler black so it isn't so obvious though. Most of the '67-'68s without the front bumpers don't have this FMIC so they look good without it. Still researching ideas to redo the exhaust tips.

[EVS Motors Inc.]

the only things that i think are out of place and don't really match the overall look of the car are the chrome trim and bumpers. with the modernized interior and big wheels the chrome bumpers look kinda "tacked on" and arbitrary.... doesn't really match the modern look i guess.

i think the car would look a lot cooler without the bumpers, and maybe a boom tube or something out the side. other than that i think it's pretty cool... just not my style.

https://www.drgas.net/category.php?cid=7&catid=1

but the work looks top notch!

Thanks! Is there better pictures of the exhaust/tip your talking about. I can't figure it out from that picture.

[class67]

With the exception of the import power and that exhaust....the car looks absolutely beautiful.

[Flash68]

We are listening. We like the idea of the bumper removal, however the problem is that this car has a huge front mount intercooler. With the front bumper removed it exposes the bottom part of the intercooler that comes out a little of the two open air dams. That makes it look funny. We could try painting the bottom part of the intercooler black so it isn't so obvious though. Most of the '67-'68s without the front bumpers don't have this FMIC so they look good without it. Still researching ideas to redo the exhaust tips.

I actually want to expose my IC in front and will not run a bumper. If you are worried about protecting it, some people make a mesh cover for the 2 vent openings there. I personally like the industrial look of an exposed IC. Painting/coating it black would be good if you wanted to hide it too.

You really did a fine job on the interior. That screams exotic to me, something we don't see often in these muscle cars. :)

[EVS Motors Inc.]

I actually want to expose my IC in front and will not run a bumper. If you are worried about protecting it, some people make a mesh cover for the 2 vent openings there. I personally like the industrial look of an exposed IC. Painting/coating it black would be good if you wanted to hide it too.

You really did a fine job on the interior. That screams exotic to me, something we don't see often in these muscle cars. :)


Thanks! What I meant with the intercooler exposed is that literally the bottom part of the intercooler comes out of the vent, hard to describe in words. But its not flushed. At least to me it looks funny. I'll post a pic of the bumper removed and see what you guys think.

[Flash68]

Thanks! What I meant with the intercooler exposed is that literally the bottom part of the intercooler comes out of the vent, hard to describe in words. But its not flushed. At least to me it looks funny. I'll post a pic of the bumper removed and see what you guys think.

Oooh, I thought you meant you didn't want to see it. That must be a big IC! Yeah, throw some pics up when you get a chance.

I also respect the fact that, after building such an interesting and "controversial" car to some, you are taking suggestions and opinions with open arms here. Very cool. :)

[ArisESQ]

Thanks! Is there better pictures of the exhaust/tip your talking about. I can't figure it out from that picture.

they are slash cut to the side of the car. heres a close up pic:
http://www.skulte.com/albums/NASCAR-Side-Exhaust/side_clearance.sized.jpg

not into the side skirt thing on this one, but you get the idea:
http://www.iroczone.com/Carlisle2007/best_modified_06.JPG

[EVS Motors Inc.]

they are slash cut to the side of the car. heres a close up pic:
http://www.skulte.com/albums/NASCAR-Side-Exhaust/side_clearance.sized.jpg

not into the side skirt thing on this one, but you get the idea:
http://www.iroczone.com/Carlisle2007/best_modified_06.JPG

Those are cool, but I don't think possible for the setup on this car. The exhaust side exit will interfere with the subframe connectors. The ground clearance on the car is pretty low as it is already, and running 3" exhaust piping reduces this clearance.

[deuce_454]

they are available in 1-1/16 to 1.5 inch thickness.. i think that ought to clear

https://www.drgas.net/category.php?cid=45&catid=5

also the very reason they are on nascar cars, where they are called boom tubes.. is to disperse the "crack" from fumes exploding in the exhaust and mellow the boom to a rumble.... it will do the very same on your "ricer-spec" monster engine.... (no disrespect intended :-) )

[itsals1]

Here are some pictures for those that want to see it. These pics were before the big brake upgrade and some other exterior enhancements. It will be on Hot Rod magazine soon!

http://www.evsmotors.com/vehicleinventory/chevrolet/camaro/67-evscam2jz01/001.jpg

http://www.evsmotors.com/vehicleinventory/chevrolet/camaro/67-evscam2jz01/002.jpg

http://www.evsmotors.com/vehicleinventory/chevrolet/camaro/67-evscam2jz01/007.jpg

http://www.evsmotors.com/vehicleinventory/chevrolet/camaro/67-evscam2jz01/045.jpg

http://www.evsmotors.com/vehicleinventory/chevrolet/camaro/67-evscam2jz01/062.jpg

Would you be willing to share the paint code on this 67' Camaro? This is the color I've been looking for and its on a 67' same as my car. Thanks, Travis

[texas56]

Hey Ted congrats on the Hot Rod MAg right up! Looks good!:cheers:

[Flash68]

Yep, just read that last night. Great stuff! Congrats Ted! :thumbsup:

[buickfunnycar.com]

Got my issue last week...still in shock.

This car was obviously built for a reaction...here's mine:
I HATE IT...

Take one tastefully done 1st Gen Camaro,add a Supra 6-cylinder and tack on four boy-fighter exhaust tips and you too can be a hit with the ricer crowd.

Sorry...I must be a staunch died-in-the-wool Chevrolet fan...because I would take my own life before even considering putting a Japanese engine in an American classic....but then again,I'm no fast & furious fan either.

Sorry,gotta go now and burn a magazine...

[Aschle]

Wow, how do you really feel about this car? :lol:

I also don't agree with the engine choice, but the car (aside from the exhaust) is VERY good looking ! To each their own on powerplants though.

Jason

[Roger M]

Congratulations on the mag coverage. IMHO it does fit into the ricer scene though. I don't care for the drive train swap, exhaust, or the interior. Regardless, I understand the amount of work that must have gone into it.

[70TWO NOVA]

i dont really agree with that combo either, but i dont really care my lil bro Andy got a pic of him and his first car (72 Nova) in the same issue!! Congrats Andy! :)

[Flash68]

Damn some of you guys are tough. Funny, I used to be die hard Chevy fan and didn't even like Ford or Mustangs, but now I just appreciate cool cars and styles and something unique like this.

Open mind much? Apparently not..... :rolleyes:

[Radlark]

I applaud you and YOUR take on making a camaro stand out, let's face it now days it is EXTREMELY difficult to make a 1st gen stand out! BUT you have done something different to differentiate your self from the "I got one too crowd".
I am sure EVERYONE with a camaro can post their cars and SOMEONE will say "oh I don't like this or I don't like that" so for the love of god let the man enjoy the fact that he took the time to fabricate something different. That's what I love about this hobby...........it is constantly EVOLVING and the ability of someone to have an open mind and EMBRACE change!

[conekiller13]

Bravo for standing up and doing something different. Who cares if it's a Toyota motor. It makes gobs of power and the car, especially the interior, looks absolutely stunning. I really like the interior, in fact that is similar to what I'll be going for eventually. What I would really like to see is this care compete at that event after SEMA who's name suddenly escapes Me. I'd like to see this car go head to head on the track in more than a straight line and see if there are any advantages to the ay it makes power or if there are any weight distribution advantages.

As far as all the people complaining about this car, there is a really simple solution. Go build your own car. Why tell some one how wrong there project is when it's done well. I mean making fun of an '86 Camry with a $40 shopping cart wing screwed to the deck and 13" spinner hubcaps is different. This is a very well project done in good taste with an alternative power train. A friend of mine was shunned at pro-touring.com a few years ago for describing his project. A 1976 Toyota Corona sedan that he got for free. He has a middle of the road income and a family to support so making do with what he has is his only option. He described his long term plans of building the suspension( very similar in layout to a 1st gen Camaro) and sourcing a 2JZ supra motor. Everyone ridculed him for building an import saying it wasn't pro-touring because it wasn't an American muscle car. Taking an old car that's not a sports car and turning it in to one is very pro-touring. It doesn't matter where the car came from or where the parts came from. The beauty of this hobby is to each his own.


:drama:

[TOM NELSON]

Great Job on the car it has some really neat ideas .

[EVS Motors Inc.]

Would you be willing to share the paint code on this 67' Camaro? This is the color I've been looking for and its on a 67' same as my car. Thanks, Travis


It is Viper Clear Coat Red!

[EVS Motors Inc.]

Hey Ted congrats on the Hot Rod MAg right up! Looks good!:cheers:

Thanks David! When is the next cruise?!

[EVS Motors Inc.]

Yep, just read that last night. Great stuff! Congrats Ted! :thumbsup:

Thanks a lot! I look forward to the completion of your '68! I can say I contributed a lil bit towards it! haha

[EVS Motors Inc.]

I applaud you and YOUR take on making a camaro stand out, let's face it now days it is EXTREMELY difficult to make a 1st gen stand out! BUT you have done something different to differentiate your self from the "I got one too crowd".
I am sure EVERYONE with a camaro can post their cars and SOMEONE will say "oh I don't like this or I don't like that" so for the love of god let the man enjoy the fact that he took the time to fabricate something different. That's what I love about this hobby...........it is constantly EVOLVING and the ability of someone to have an open mind and EMBRACE change!

I hope people don't get me wrong. I've been doing V8 swaps for about 6 or so years now. It was time to motivate myself and my mechanics with something new and exciting. The whole reason behind the car is because I do have a lot of experience with MKIV Supras. I've owned MKIV Supras with 950-1,620HP, all proven reliable on and off the strip. So why not give it a try.

"Embrace Change" is one of my mottos in my work environment! ;)

Bravo for standing up and doing something different. Who cares if it's a Toyota motor. It makes gobs of power and the car, especially the interior, looks absolutely stunning. I really like the interior, in fact that is similar to what I'll be going for eventually. What I would really like to see is this care compete at that event after SEMA who's name suddenly escapes Me. I'd like to see this car go head to head on the track in more than a straight line and see if there are any advantages to the ay it makes power or if there are any weight distribution advantages.

As far as all the people complaining about this car, there is a really simple solution. Go build your own car. Why tell some one how wrong there project is when it's done well. I mean making fun of an '86 Camry with a $40 shopping cart wing screwed to the deck and 13" spinner hubcaps is different. This is a very well project done in good taste with an alternative power train. A friend of mine was shunned at pro-touring.com a few years ago for describing his project. A 1976 Toyota Corona sedan that he got for free. He has a middle of the road income and a family to support so making do with what he has is his only option. He described his long term plans of building the suspension( very similar in layout to a 1st gen Camaro) and sourcing a 2JZ supra motor. Everyone ridculed him for building an import saying it wasn't pro-touring because it wasn't an American muscle car. Taking an old car that's not a sports car and turning it in to one is very pro-touring. It doesn't matter where the car came from or where the parts came from. The beauty of this hobby is to each his own.


:drama:

I'll quote Rajunz from the Hot Rod Magazine forum. He pretty much explained how I feel and the definition behind Hot Rods.

"Extremely cool, and it's about time Hot Rod has the balls to feature such a car. It's hot rodding at it's core, it's what the hobby was founded on. Back in the day when the Turbo Supras came out, Hot Rod Magazine embraced the cars with opened arms, but somehow through the years things got skewed to where it has become basically just another domestic (mainly GM) publication. Don't we have enough of those on the newsstands already. Personally, I think that it's almost the duty of Hot Rod Magazine to get out there and open up people's minds to all of the possibilities of hot rodding. Half of the readers out there are afraid of anything besides a bolt on carburator, there's a whole other world of performance out there. What does it matter that it was made in a land far, far away? So are their big screen TV's, car stereos and most everything else out there today. "

Let's also not forget that 90% of the reproduction parts for our 1st Gens are made in Taiwan or China.

Great Job on the car it has some really neat ideas .

Tom thanks! You sir make some bad ass motors! ;)

[camaro2nv]

How can anyone hate that interior?? Man some people really dont like change. Car looks bad to the bone with or without the motor.

[camaro2nv]

We are listening. We like the idea of the bumper removal, however the problem is that this car has a huge front mount intercooler. With the front bumper removed it exposes the bottom part of the intercooler that comes out a little of the two open air dams. That makes it look funny. We could try painting the bottom part of the intercooler black so it isn't so obvious though. Most of the '67-'68s without the front bumpers don't have this FMIC so they look good without it. Still researching ideas to redo the exhaust tips.
Ill have a set of CF bumpers for the 68 very soon. They would look right at home on your car.

[SLOWnLOW]

Absolutley out of the box thinking..I LOVE it more so with black wheels.

dont let all the die hards get ya down. I like to be diffrent also.

You hit the mark with this one.:hail:

[Flash68]

Thanks a lot! I look forward to the completion of your '68! I can say I contributed a lil bit towards it! haha

Thanks Ted. Yes you did contribute. :D

I'll be talking to you as I near completion.....

cheers

[ProTouring442]

Bravo for standing up and doing something different. Who cares if it's a Toyota motor. It makes gobs of power and the car, especially the interior, looks absolutely stunning. I really like the interior, in fact that is similar to what I'll be going for eventually. What I would really like to see is this care compete at that event after SEMA who's name suddenly escapes Me. I'd like to see this car go head to head on the track in more than a straight line and see if there are any advantages to the ay it makes power or if there are any weight distribution advantages.

As far as all the people complaining about this car, there is a really simple solution. Go build your own car. Why tell some one how wrong there project is when it's done well. I mean making fun of an '86 Camry with a $40 shopping cart wing screwed to the deck and 13" spinner hubcaps is different. This is a very well project done in good taste with an alternative power train. A friend of mine was shunned at pro-touring.com a few years ago for describing his project. A 1976 Toyota Corona sedan that he got for free. He has a middle of the road income and a family to support so making do with what he has is his only option. He described his long term plans of building the suspension( very similar in layout to a 1st gen Camaro) and sourcing a 2JZ supra motor. Everyone ridculed him for building an import saying it wasn't pro-touring because it wasn't an American muscle car. Taking an old car that's not a sports car and turning it in to one is very pro-touring. It doesn't matter where the car came from or where the parts came from. The beauty of this hobby is to each his own.


:drama:

I agree with you 100%! I have a friend who, when someone starts talking crap about a car always has the same question for them; "And which car is yours?" It's funny, but usually the people who nitpick someone's ride the most are the ones who don't even own a cool car.

Personally, I think it's a cool Camaro! I'll admit that I liked it better without all the carbon fiber on it, but it's still a cool ride!

Shiny Side Up!
Bill

[R67Chevelle]

here is my $.25.... I have a chevelle, and a 71 ford, a honda accord and a Honda Odyessy. I have had hondas as daily drivers for 20 years and love them (great milage, reliable, and comfortable). The one thing I can not stand is the import crowd. I will never again go to another import event. I just a thug and gang no respect crowd for the most part. The camaro here is great, and I absolutely love it. Its just what the tuner crowd is for most part i resent and at that I do not want to attract this crowd (or alienate) in my opinion (if this makes sense).

Can't speak bad about the Supra or the 6. SW can spank just about anyone out there with a Texas mile at 240+ and high 8's in the quarter.

I would say I hold more of a grudge about the motor then the actual non V8. Its like I don't mind so one checking out my wife with a quick glance, but if someone takes it upon themselves to force themselves upon her right smack dab in front of me and they tell me to piss off, then I am going send them to the hospital for a long time...

Well this may sound kind of dumb, but makes sense to me....:thumbsup:

Blessings,

AMS

[Vegas69]

I like the car but I would never put that motor in a muscle car. It's just not my taste and it's like letting your best buddy screw your old lady. Just doesn't feel right or look right. That being said I do think it's a nice build and if you like it and the masses like it who cares what I or anyone else thinks for that matter.

[jcal87]

There is a reason the call the camaro "American Muscle" and this sir is not American!!!! but it is creative and a nice build.

[Thumdaddy]

I went and re-read th article in HRM again. I think this car is awesome. I can't see most people choosing this swap which is what makes it great. Ingenuity and attention to detail are what drives the Hot Rod movement.:thumbsup:

[EVS Motors Inc.]

There is a reason the call the camaro "American Muscle" and this sir is not American!!!! but it is creative and a nice build.

You do know a lot of these Camaros are Canadians back in the '60s right? Even the 2010 Camaros are Canadians and not Americans. Some American cars are even Mexicans and Chinese. Most resto parts are made in Taiwan and China too. What some of us don't know is that are beloved American cars use a lot of imported parts and some even the entire engines are Japanese. I'm not arguing that you don't like the car, but just offering some enlightenment.

[Mr.VENGEANCE]

hey Ted, just saw the article man.. thing came out awesome!

and yo the last picture of you.. man you got a big fuggin head.. that head of yours is fackin HUGE!

:wow: :lol:

jk. LOL!

[syborg tt]

Awesome Car - I just looked at all of the pictures on your web site.

I am also happy that Hot Rod did a feature on the car

[buickfunnycar.com]

You do know a lot of these Camaros are Canadians back in the '60s right? Even the 2010 Camaros are Canadians and not Americans. Some American cars are even Mexicans and Chinese. Most resto parts are made in Taiwan and China too. What some of us don't know is that are beloved American cars use a lot of imported parts and some even the entire engines are Japanese. I'm not arguing that you don't like the car, but just offering some enlightenment.

If that's your thinking fine but none of that logic makes it right.That was then,now is now.

I realize it's your right to do what you want...just as it's mine to tell you how I feel.I also realize hotrodding has always been about engine swaps and personalizing vehicles...as it has since the dawn of time.I can appreciate the car for everything that was done and the manhours spent to achieve the end-result.
You completely lost me on the motor choice and that boy-racer exhaust system...

I am glad I'm not alone in expressing my dislike for this abomination.

Sure,maybe your 1000hp dyno-queen will probably beat my 554hp solid-roller 11:1 racefuel-fed stroker motor eventually...but let's fire them both up and see which one sounds and feels like a real classic American Musclecar.:yes:I'm guessing it sounds like crap...

[ArisESQ]

If that's your thinking fine but none of that logic makes it right.That was then,now is now.

I realize it's your right to do what you want...just as it's mine to tell you how I feel.I also realize hotrodding has always been about engine swaps and personalizing vehicles...as it has since the dawn of time.I can appreciate the car for everything that was done and the manhours spent to achieve the end-result.
You completely lost me on the motor choice and that boy-racer exhaust system...

I am glad I'm not alone in expressing my dislike for this abomination.

Sure,maybe your 1000hp dyno-queen will probably beat my 554hp solid-roller 11:1 racefuel-fed stroker motor eventually...but let's fire them both up and see which one sounds and feels like a real classic American Musclecar.:yes:I'm guessing it sounds like crap...


no need to get all rude... but yes, the big block would sound way sicker. still think this is a cool car though, and i'm glad someone did it, because i wouldn't.

[buickfunnycar.com]

no need to get all rude...

I'm not being rude,I'm just sickened...and it's not a BBC,it's a SB.

[EVS Motors Inc.]

Musclecarjohn,

No problem with you not liking the car, I'm not even talking about that. Its more about realizing the truth. In the '60s Camaros were built by Canadians. Even to this day Camaros are built by Canadians. Chevrolet (an American Company) don't even let their own peope build the new Camaro. how do you feel about that? How is that then and now is now? Its still the same. I believe Ford Fiestas are made by Mexicans. Nothing has changed, the auto industry will build the car where it is cost effective for them, or if politics play a role. They aren't as patriotic as a brand as you would like to think. I'm 100% certain you car has parts from Taiwan and China. Whether it be a fender, rear mirror, radio deck, etc. At the end of the day its all plastic and metal from the same source.

If that's your thinking fine but none of that logic makes it right.That was then,now is now.

I realize it's your right to do what you want...just as it's mine to tell you how I feel.I also realize hotrodding has always been about engine swaps and personalizing vehicles...as it has since the dawn of time.I can appreciate the car for everything that was done and the manhours spent to achieve the end-result.
You completely lost me on the motor choice and that boy-racer exhaust system...

I am glad I'm not alone in expressing my dislike for this abomination.

Sure,maybe your 1000hp dyno-queen will probably beat my 554hp solid-roller 11:1 racefuel-fed stroker motor eventually...but let's fire them both up and see which one sounds and feels like a real classic American Musclecar.:yes:I'm guessing it sounds like crap...

[EVS Motors Inc.]

hey Ted, just saw the article man.. thing came out awesome!

and yo the last picture of you.. man you got a big fuggin head.. that head of yours is fackin HUGE!

:wow: :lol:

jk. LOL!


Thats the first I ever heard that! Thanks for taking the time to read it and not burning the magazine! haha

[Damn True]

Sure looks good with those wheels on it.

Not a fan of that style on the interior, but I applaud your taking of the road less traveled with the drivetrain. Now, get that thing out and run it!

[EVS Motors Inc.]

Sure looks good with those wheels on it.

Not a fan of that style on the interior, but I applaud your taking of the road less traveled with the drivetrain. Now, get that thing out and run it!

It's been and being runned! ;) There are plenty of witnesses of this Camaro taking on super bikes. ;) Video clip on youtube of it on the lowest boost setting pulling a 2009 GT-R.


Thanks for the compliments. I'll post up more videos as I get them.

[dwfastcam]

Many obtuse minded comments so far. Man, some people are harsh!
Well, I Love it! The pipes, I personally would have hid them and 45 degree'd them just before the tail panel and left them flat silver or something of that nature. Or tucked them in the inside the quarter just below the frame rail.

This car is definately a test of Technology V.S. Displacement, and I praise the challenge that you took upon yourself to embrace change. A new day is upon us!

Well, you could have dropped in a ZZ4 crate motor with a power glide, cragar ss 15" wheels and it jacked up in the back. Well, no, thats been done!

Or....Went with a BBC, trans brake, 5.13 Gear and had hell of a good time for about 10 sec. intravel's, Well, no, thats been done too!

There is an ass for every seat! I will never dis-credit someones taste in a build. Just learn from it.

Bitchen Car!

[EVS Motors Inc.]

Many obtuse minded comments so far. Man, some people are harsh!
Well, I Love it! The pipes, I personally would have hid them and 45 degree'd them just before the tail panel and left them flat silver or something of that nature. Or tucked them in the inside the quarter just below the frame rail.

This car is definately a test of Technology V.S. Displacement, and I praise the challenge that you took upon yourself to embrace change. A new day is upon us!

Well, you could have dropped in a ZZ4 crate motor with a power glide, cragar ss 15" wheels and it jacked up in the back. Well, no, thats been done!

Or....Went with a BBC, trans brake, 5.13 Gear and had hell of a good time for about 10 sec. intravel's, Well, no, thats been done too!

There is an ass for every seat! I will never dis-credit someones taste in a build. Just learn from it.

Bitchen Car!

Thanks and good points! ;)

Now for a quick video clip! Short shifting and granny shifting involved, tires were spinning like crazy in all the gears. Didn't have enough room to keep going safely.

Culture Shock Camaro was well under the speed limit and this was done in an area in Mexico.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmPe9IOTywc&feature=channel_page&fmt=22

[buickfunnycar.com]

Musclecarjohn,

No problem with you not liking the car, I'm not even talking about that. Its more about realizing the truth. In the '60s Camaros were built by Canadians. Even to this day Camaros are built by Canadians. Chevrolet (an American Company) don't even let their own peope build the new Camaro. how do you feel about that? How is that then and now is now? Its still the same. I believe Ford Fiestas are made by Mexicans. Nothing has changed, the auto industry will build the car where it is cost effective for them, or if politics play a role. They aren't as patriotic as a brand as you would like to think. I'm 100% certain you car has parts from Taiwan and China. Whether it be a fender, rear mirror, radio deck, etc. At the end of the day its all plastic and metal from the same source.

I work in the automotive business so I do realize that it's a global business,I got your point earlier.
I also realize that re-pop parts are made off-shore,that's why they look good when you get them out of the box but soon look like crap a few years later,even if the car is garaged.

Your car,your decision...

[gateman]

Ted, as a fellow business owner, I applaud you for "going against the grain"
with a 1st. gen. (I personally live for loud, thumping chevy big blocks). I think most of the posters fail to realize that this car is a huge statement of what your company can accomplish. The media and all they hype, both postive and negative, will draw alot of attention to EVS.. Can you imagine what the younger tuner crowd thinks??? I bet they love it. That is what brings in the money and opens the door to a whole new crowd of car guys...Good move:thumbsup:

[Flash68]

Thanks and good points! ;)

Now for a quick video clip! Short shifting and granny shifting involved, tires were spinning like crazy in all the gears. Didn't have enough room to keep going safely.

Culture Shock Camaro was well under the speed limit and this was done in an area in Mexico.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmPe9IOTywc&feature=channel_page&fmt=22

Sweet video. Love that perspective.

And yes there surely are some short-sighted people around here..... sheesh.

[Vegas69]

Man that thing hauls....rough ass road huh.

[dwfastcam]

Sweet Molasses! That video clip Money:cheers: ! I want one!

[Damn True]

It's been and being runned! ;) There are plenty of witnesses of this Camaro taking on super bikes. ;) Video clip on youtube of it on the lowest boost setting pulling a 2009 GT-R.


Thanks for the compliments. I'll post up more videos as I get them.


By run it I did not mean street racing or hooning around on public roads.

Taking on "super bikes"? You mean on a track right? Your GT-R encounter.....on a track also?

The video is way not cool. That's a public road, you are ripping through three gears and catching up to that red SUV like its standing still. If THAT is as you say, "under the speed limit" then you got something wrong with that engine and the fact that its in Mexico......WTF! who cares where it is? It's still buffonery.

Like I said. It's a nice looking car.

But......

[Vegas69]

There is a place for it and not..I thought he slowed down enough before he got to the suv. It's really tough around here to open it up.

[EVS Motors Inc.]

By run it I did not mean street racing or hooning around on public roads.

Taking on "super bikes"? You mean on a track right? Your GT-R encounter.....on a track also?

The video is way not cool. That's a public road, you are ripping through three gears and catching up to that red SUV like its standing still. If THAT is as you say, "under the speed limit" then you got something wrong with that engine and the fact that its in Mexico......WTF! who cares where it is? It's still buffonery.

Like I said. It's a nice looking car.

But......

Yeah on the track. Thanks!

[dwfastcam]

By run it I did not mean street racing or hooning around on public roads.

Taking on "super bikes"? You mean on a track right? Your GT-R encounter.....on a track also?

The video is way not cool. That's a public road, you are ripping through three gears and catching up to that red SUV like its standing still. If THAT is as you say, "under the speed limit" then you got something wrong with that engine and the fact that its in Mexico......WTF! who cares where it is? It's still buffonery.

Like I said. It's a nice looking car.

But......
"........and you shake my hand while your pissing on my leg", Mike Ness.
Lol!

[67rstbkt]

I read the article in Hot rod, nice job. The car looks kick-ass! It's probably not something I would do, but to each his own. Keep up the good work!:thumbsup:

[mazspeed]

275mm

Your rear tires look to be 275 or smaller, you have a pic of the front tire? It looks pretty small for a 275mm. Pictures can sometimes not tell the truth, but those don't look to be 275's in the front. Scott asked on the first page about the suspension and such, what is it? weight?

[Mr.VENGEANCE]

Thats the first I ever heard that! Thanks for taking the time to read it and not burning the magazine! haha

nah dog, i like what you did.. and being another asian guy im glad to see im not the only one building musclecars with the hillbillies..

hahaha!

and yea.. you got a fuggin big ass head man.. like a size 10 baseball cap.

just kiddin playa..

[specialized199]

i dont get the wheels....

anddddddd I dont like how it sounds. But you cant argue with how fast it could be. Would rather here a crazy turbo lsx. Not like you cant watch hundreds and hundreds of supras that sound and move just like that. But nice work putting it together. :cheers:

[Flash68]

LOL... this thread is really getting hilarious.... this guy is taking heat for running through the gears on a public road somewhere? Gimme a frickin break.

And if you didn't get it why he claimed he was in Mexico while doing that, than you just don't get it.

I think I am liking this car more by the day especially since it really seems to be pissin so many people off! :lol:

[Damn True]

Yeah on the track. Thanks!

Thats what I thought.

[rogue]

Yup just as I suspected. EVS motors hyping the hell out of this car yet again across every board on the internet.

Run it against your other other camaros already..... :rofl:

[Damn True]

LOL... this thread is really getting hilarious.... this guy is taking heat for running through the gears on a public road somewhere? Gimme a frickin break.

And if you didn't get it why he claimed he was in Mexico while doing that, than you just don't get it.

I think I am liking this car more by the day especially since it really seems to be pissin so many people off! :lol:

I think the build is cool as hell. Not a fan of the panel into extended console that stretches all the way through the back seat thing.....but the rest is pretty bitchin...escpecially with the black wheels.

But..........Splattering video like that all over the net, especially in times such as these though does us no favors. As for "not getting it"....enlighten me.

Is there an autobahn system in Mexico that I was unaware of? The State Department Website makes no mention of such a thing.
Are the laws of physics somehow repealed somewhere south of the border?
Is the likelihood of an inattentive driver pulling in front of another car somehow mitigated?
Are the lives that might be lost due to street racing or just hooning around like a knucklehead somehow less valuable?

......through three gears with a 1000hp car.....unless he has the gearset out of a John Deere tractor in that thing I don't believe for a second that the speed was anything like legal. I don't like having my intelligence insulted.

[rogue]

I think I am liking this car more by the day especially since it really seems to be pissin so many people off! :lol:

I'm confused at what you point you switched from a doubter of this car, saying it was a dyno queen and 'all wrong' to being its biggest supporter....

I recall you not being a fan of it on 6speedonline for a long time for the same reasons I am not a fan. Tons of hype, videos every 3 months, a 2 year "online reveal". The car is a hype machine for EVS.

Still no performance figures, just dyno nonsense. The guy owns 3 other camaros, grab a friend go outside, race this so called "1000hp import powered" monster and put this whole debate to rest.

I wouldn't care less if the owner didn't cross post it to 5+ different forums...

To me this is just annoying spam.

[Mr.VENGEANCE]

im tellin you ,dog... its all about dudes fuggin head man.

massive cranium... fackin monolithic headpiece.

[fleetus macmullitz]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190304311424&ssPageName=ADME:B:WNA:MOTORS:1123

High bid $180,100

[Vegas69]

Sure......

[fleetus macmullitz]

Sure......

:lol:

[legend]

great original work.

interior looks fantastic

how about a full skyline engined build next time with the 4x4 and all the yaw sensors etc working ;)

One thing that puzzles me though, lots of you guys run massive bhp/torque with what looks like very poor torsional rigidity. Do people have a lot of trouble with the shell twisting?

[MarkM66]

High bidder: User ID kept private = Bullsh#t.

No reason for that feature other then bs bidding, JMO.

I will say, it's one of the best ebay ad's I've seen.

[Damn True]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190304311424&ssPageName=ADME:B:WNA:MOTORS:1123

High bid $180,100

Bull$hit.

[rogue]

High bidder: User ID kept private = Bullsh#t.

No reason for that feature other then bs bidding, JMO.

I will say, it's one of the best ebay ad's I've seen.

The bike they have listed has the exact same private bidding pattern as well...

[ProTouring442]

The bike they have listed has the exact same private bidding pattern as well...

I thought all car auctions were private now?

Shiny Side Up!
Bill

[67rstbkt]

What's with the painted over wiper motor sticking out of the firewall? I would expect every detail, no matter how small, be taken care of for something in this price range. WTH?

[buickfunnycar.com]

What's with the painted over wiper motor sticking out of the firewall? I would expect every detail, no matter how small, be taken care of for something in this price range. WTH?

Look closely...there is no detail.

[67rstbkt]

Look closely...there is no detail.

From the magazine story, it seemed that the car was purchased with the body work and paint already completed. So, the drivetrain got swapped and interior was re-done. Why is it worth more than $180,000? Don't get me wrong, it's a nice looking car, but what makes it so great? The Supra motor? Can I expect this sort of return if I buy a clean First gen and throw in a hopped up import motor? :_paranoid

[rogue]

I thought all car auctions were private now?

Shiny Side Up!
Bill

semi private, ebay edits out the bidders middle part of their name....

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[z4me69]

evs beautiful car but you do have 1 thing wrong 1st and 2nd gen camaros were not built in canada they were built in van nuys ca and norwood oh and that is fact

[deocon]

Some 1st gen Camaros were built in Manila Philippines.

Under the Yutivo Corporation. It even has Y codes.

[deocon]

This is the site of the Yutivo Corp. assembling Camaros overseas in the Philippines.

http://www.69pace.com/1967_yutivo_other.htm

[syborg tt]

This is the site of the Yutivo Corp. assembling Camaros overseas in the Philippines.

http://www.69pace.com/1967_yutivo_other.htm

Awesome link - thank you for sharing.

I just searched the entire site

[COYBILT]

I still hate the car no matter what.

[badmatt]

I still hate the car no matter what.

X2 this is just all sorts of wrong on this car.

[Flash68]

:lol: Honestly I had the same initial reaction but I have changed my tune and appreciate the project now.

Just like I used to be ignorant and HATE Fords and Mustangs growing up like I thought a die-hard Chevy guy was supposed to be like. Now I really love a 65 Fastback. :thumbsup:

[70rs]

Awesome link - thank you for sharing.

I just searched the entire site

X2^^ I found a lot of great info there and had NO IDEA they were ever produced over seas. If someone had told me that without the site to back it up I would have called them a liar and I would have been a fool. Never say never! Thanks for posting the link, that was really neat to see.:cheers:

[fleetus macmullitz]

That engine is not worthy of a Camaro, I don't care how much power it makes.

We understand there are those who approve of a Toyota motor in it, but save your energy.

It could be a 3000 hp Lexus motor, but you ain't changin' our minds. :thumbsup: