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Mikamaro
10-02-2008, 09:44 AM
Alright Gents, Building my BBC up now.... has anybody fit a victor jr on a BBC under an original GM style cowl hood? Talking to tech while ordering my cylinder heads suggested I ditch my current manifold and go w/ the V jr. I like my cowl hood, don't want a fiberglass 4 incher, though bad-a$$, I like the style of the original.


Thanks,
Mike

camcojb
10-02-2008, 11:57 AM
Alright Gents, Building my BBC up now.... has anybody fit a victor jr on a BBC under an original GM style cowl hood? Talking to tech while ordering my cylinder heads suggested I ditch my current manifold and go w/ the V jr. I like my cowl hood, don't want a fiberglass 4 incher, though bad-a$$, I like the style of the original.


Thanks,
Mike

you won't get a decent air filter on there, but the manifold and carb will clear. I used a Vic Jr with a big block 69 and had it converted to EFI. The throttle body is 1" shorter than a carb, and I still could only fit a 2.6-2.7" drop base 14" filter up top with the factory cowl. With a carb it would have been even worse, as it's 1" taller than my throttle body was.

68protouring454
10-02-2008, 01:05 PM
we got a 4 inch air cleaner on vinnys 68 camaro with a 496 and dart single plane intake which i believe is as tall or taller then the victors

camcojb
10-02-2008, 02:17 PM
we got a 4 inch air cleaner on vinnys 68 camaro with a 496 and dart single plane intake which i believe is as tall or taller then the victors

I'd love to know your secret.................... :yes: I did finally get a 3" drop base on there but I had to mill the carb pad down 3/8-1/2" or so, basically as far as it could be taken. Again, this was with a throttle body, much shorter than a carb. I'm not positive if this is the Holley intake or the Edelbrock, but the idea's the same.

http://camcojb.com/alumin8r/zl1motornoblower.jpg

68protouring454
10-02-2008, 02:37 PM
i will get you a pic, its a drop base, no carb spacer, way more of a drop base then you have on that motor.

Cread01
10-02-2008, 02:38 PM
I dont know what year car you have but on my 78 there is no way to keep a stock hood. I have a 4 inch hood but I also have a nitrous plate under the carb. I could see a 2 inch cowl but that would be with a low air cleaner.

*rayman*
10-02-2008, 03:13 PM
I've just put a Team-G single plane on my 454 in a 68 camaro. With carby sitting on it I have just come over the line of the front fender. I dont have the hood on at the moment, so I will find out just how much clearance i have then i suppose... I'm planning to run a 14" drop base element, but may need to reconsider and go with a 9".

Pretty sure the Team-G is a fraction shorter than the victor jnr though.

gmjj13
10-02-2008, 05:43 PM
496 BBC dart intake with 14" drop base and stock cowl hood

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l271/choppin53/DSC00569.jpg

Mikamaro
10-02-2008, 07:18 PM
Thanks for the reply guys. I know the vic jr has the a/b measurement of 5.90". Dart lists the height of their intake at 6.25" tall. What allows it to fit in one car and not the other? Jody, did your ride happen to have shorter/lowering body mount bushings that would allow the engine to sit higher relative to the body? I have a CA chassisworks subframe w/ poly mounts, I think it keeps the engine at stock height compared to the body.

Efi69Cam
10-02-2008, 07:21 PM
I have a Vic Jr with a Fast 1200CFM TB on my standard deck 540. Professional Products makes a spun aluminum dropped base that allowed me a 4.5" filter. This is even with their 1" spacer to clear the throttle linkage and fuel rails.
There is enough room under the cowl hood for 1/2" of clearance over the K&N filter lid.

It can be done.

Vegas69
10-02-2008, 07:38 PM
I have a 489 with Edelbrock air gap, 1/2 phelonic spacer, 3 inch K and N, nascar style drop base. I have about three **** hairs left. Of course drop body bushings don't help my cause. The nascar style air cleaner isn't the lowest profile top either. Has to look good.:D

jbutlr
10-02-2008, 11:04 PM
I have a Vic Jr with a Fast 1200CFM TB on my standard deck 540. Professional Products makes a spun aluminum dropped base that allowed me a 4.5" filter. This is even with their 1" spacer to clear the throttle linkage and fuel rails.
There is enough room under the cowl hood for 1/2" of clearance over the K&N filter lid.

It can be done.


I have been looking for this base for an hour. Do you have a part# by any chance?

tgvettes
10-03-2008, 05:08 PM
I might be all wrong here but couldn't the difference be if someone is using the small block frame motor mounts.
I thought if you have the 307 engine mounts the engine would be sitting higher in the chassi then with the big block mounts.

Tonny

Vegas69
10-03-2008, 05:36 PM
It's about 3/8 of an inch.

Efi69Cam
10-03-2008, 07:43 PM
The 307 mounts do mount the engine higher. The 69 302 and 350 mounts are the same height as the BBC, but mount the engine back a bit.

http://www.hrpworld.com/index.cfm?tpc=Air_Cleaner_Housing_-_14_Spun_Aluminum&form_prod_id=406,403_627&action=product

This is the base I used

http://www.hrpworld.com/index.cfm?tpc=Air_Cleaner_Housing_-_14_Spun_Aluminum&form_prod_id=406,403_627&action=product

This is the adaptor with o ring seal

bearcat
11-11-2008, 09:11 AM
I have a 489 with Edelbrock air gap, 1/2 phelonic spacer, 3 inch K and N, nascar style drop base. I have about three **** hairs left. Of course drop body bushings don't help my cause. The nascar style air cleaner isn't the lowest profile top either. Has to look good.:D

could you post a picture of your set up or email me a pic. I have a victor intake 1050 carb 1/2 dropped bushings and a 14" 3" drop air cleaner and I would like to get by with a 2" hood.

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