acetone in fuel

[chevzilla396]

ive heard a lot about adding acetone to fuel and it sounds really good,if not too good...
so i would like to know if anyone here either uses acetone in their fuel or if anyone knows anything about this fuel addetive.
I have reaserched a lot about it but i would like to know if anyone has used it in thier own vehicles and if it has any flaws.

[XcYZ]

I think Jody has some experience with additives, I'm sure he'll chime in.

:D

[Blown353]

You want Toluene, not acetone.

[camcojb]

You want Toluene, not acetone.

Toluene or Xylene is an excellent octane booster. Never tried Acetone, and probably won't!:D

Jody

[chevzilla396]

ive heard lots about better mpg with acetone (1-3 oz/10 gallons of gas ratio)
is there any increase in mpg with Toluene or Xylene?
what do the 2 chemicals do to increase performance?
acetone is also suppose to greatly reduce surface tension. that would help to get a more full burn by having a more fine spray if gas into the manifold.
And its suppose to increase octane by around 5 points.
read this article http://www.lubedev.com/articles/additive.htm
Ill do some reasearch on Toluene and Xylene.

[camcojb]

ive heard lots about better mpg with acetone (1-3 oz/10 gallons of gas ratio)
is there any increase in mpg with Toluene or Xylene?
what do the 2 chemicals do to increase performance?
acetone is also suppose to greatly reduce surface tension. that would help to get a more full burn by having a more fine spray if gas into the manifold.
And its suppose to increase octane by around 5 points.
read this article http://www.lubedev.com/articles/additive.htm
Ill do some reasearch on Toluene and Xylene.

There's no way acetone would raise the octane 5 points in that mixture. The mileage thing has been floating around the internet for a while, and although I've never tried it 95% of the people I've read who did didn't get an increase in mileage.

Xylene is 117 octane and Toluene is 114 octane. Basically mix 5 gallons of Xylene with 15 gallons of 91 and you'd have about 97.5-98 octane. About 7-8 full points. Notice it takes 5 gallons, not 1-3 ounces!

There are other boosters out there like Torco leaaded race accelerator. They claim 11 points of octane boost with a quart in 10 gallons. It contains lead and is supposed to work pretty well. I've tried the unleaded version and they make the same claims for it; no way in hell it gives more than 2-3 points max, I've tried it too many times.

Jody

[chevzilla396]

mayb its .05 points with acetone lol Where could i get Toluene or Xylene?
is either corrosive? how much do they cost? does either have an afect on milage? whats the difference between the two? do the have an affect on cataletic convertors? lol lots of questions

[907rs]

You should be able to pick either one up at your local paint stores, both are just a really hot paint thinner. It's been a while since I bought any, so I couldn't tell you the cost.

[Musclerodz]

It would be alot cheaper to run 100LL Avgas. I can buy it here for the price of Super Unleaded at the local private airport. Tolulene and Xylene are not cheap anymore, $4-$5 gallon or more. Acetone would wash the cylinders I would think. About as bad as running alcohol.

Mike

[race-rodz]

somebody needs to do a duramax powered PT car and run it on bio diesel :unibrow:

[Musclerodz]

Banks has a head start on that with their road raceable Cummins powered Dodge they are building.

Mike

[race-rodz]

i was thinkin more like a camaro... with a 500 hp 1000lb/ft duramax..... paddle shifted allison trans..... i dunno.. i guess its more for the "WTF" factor than anything.

[Hooligan]

i was thinkin more like a camaro... with a 500 hp 1000lb/ft duramax..... paddle shifted allison trans..... i dunno.. i guess its more for the "WTF" factor than anything.

WTF is right. I can see that now. You'd use the camaro to pull your truck to the shop when it breaks.

[race-rodz]

thats still better than the farrari towing the barbie boat

[Derek69SS]

Someone posted this link on Team Chevelle:
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Acetone_as_a_Fuel_Additive

I'm pretty skeptical.

[Musclerodz]

I am skeptical too but I have a fresh $100 tank of gas in my big block crew cab and were gonna find out. I will let you know in about a week.

Mike

[race-rodz]

@ $100/week in gas..... i dont think your gonna be out anything if it doesnt work..... on a side note... 100?week in gas makes one of those pos kia things sound like a good investment... 10 yr/100000 mile warranty...means all ya gotta do is change the oil and put gas in it..... when gas prices stabalize... you can throw the car away and still be ahead. oh yeah... i test drove a red one :_paranoid

[R67Chevelle]

This a very interesting topic and I have had experience with this. This is a old Hot Hodders trick that goes back to the 40's. Acetone is a very flammable substance and evaporates very quickly.

Its use in gasoline does produce more horse power. In 1987 I had rebuilt my 327 small chevy with 10:75-1 pistons. I lived in Big Bear at the time and never had a problem w/ detenation until I was down toward L.A. or closer to see level. I use to use acetone down by the beach (3.5 ounces to 10 gallons and the "ping" stopped and in turn I could tell by the butt-o-meter a difference in power.

Now at the time a friend of mine had a 427 BB chevy that was being dyno tested and we used about 3 ounces of acetone to 5 gallons of Unocal 92 when we dyno'd the motor and over 2 tests the dyno showed 14 h.p. improvement on one and 22 over the final test. The motor peaked 569 H.p.

Also when I was a kid about 11 yrs old my friend had the old Honda mini bike and we ran out of gas in the pasture. We could not get any gas until the next day, but we saw a 1 gallon can of acetone :thumbsup: Now as stuip kids do we said okay this will due :yes:

Make a long story short when we ran it pure it was like a roaring lion come to life.... Any ways our fun lasted about 15 minutes until we burned the engine up :eek: It was fun while it lasted, but it does work... Granted this was 26 years ago.

Anyways this is my first post, I love this web site been viewing for about 6 months and though I would have some fun with all of you guys. I have been inspired again about all the rides I have seen on this web site and I am in the process of re-doing my chevelle again after owning it for the past 18 years, and time now for a pro-charged 434SB...

Not to start any dis-agreements, but try about 2-3 ounces to 10 gallons of gas the next time in your rod or regular vehicle and see if anything happens :thumbsup:

[Musclerodz]

Glad you brought this back up as I need to report on my experiment. I ran 2 full tanks in my BB454 crew cab chevy. One at 2oz per 10 gal., and one at 4oz per 10gal. At 7000 lbs, I am not going to notice a couple hp difference but this was a mpg test as was originally brought up. I saw no noticeable difference in mpg between the tanks with and without. 10mpg either way. I have thought about doubling the amount, but have not done that yet. It is my opinion it will take alot more to notice a difference good or bad. I saw no changes in driving characteristics, idling characteristics, temp changes, nothing in 600 miles of driving.

Mike

[uneasyrider]

Yeah, bump it up to the 3.5oz./10gal. and see. If that doesn't do it I figure it either takes a lot more or it doesn't work. I should ask around and see if any of the chemists I know can give me any info.

I'm not sure if there are any differences in "grades" of acetone but my brother and I went down to the local hardware store and got some to try in his '02 Dodge diesel 3/4 ton 4x4 and I'll let you know if we see anything new. I don't think it will help but it was worth a try I figure because I don't think it will hurt either. I figure it will take at least two or three tanks for any milage difference to show but we will see. ;)

[Musclerodz]

Second tank was at 4oz/10gal and saw no noticable difference. I have not tried a higher dosage. What I did kind of notice when I was reading all the link that people were putting up is that the smaller engines required less than the bigger ones or so they claimed.

Mike

[uneasyrider]

Yeah, bump it up to the 3.5oz./10gal. and see. If that doesn't do it I figure it either takes a lot more or it doesn't work. I should ask around and see if any of the chemists I know can give me any info.

I'm not sure if there are any differences in "grades" of acetone but my brother and I went down to the local hardware store and got some to try in his '02 Dodge diesel 3/4 ton 4x4 and I'll let you know if we see anything new. I don't think it will help but it was worth a try I figure because I don't think it will hurt either. I figure it will take at least two or three tanks for any milage difference to show but we will see. ;)


Well we tried one tank in my brothers Dodge at 1/2gal. per tank and there was no difference in milage BUT during the test my brother ran the thing up to 100mph for a few miles so that didn't help the milage a bit. :rolleyes: One thing that does seem to have changed is that it smokes less and it's quieter. I guess it cleaned up the injectors? I don't think one tank full is enough to really know but we are both a little nervous about adding any more.

[MarkM66]

I tried this for myself too. I got ahold of some labratory grade Acetone by Fisher.

I used it in two vehicles that I've owned for years. I track my milage per tank at every fill up. My mpt is very consistant. After using about 3oz. per gallon in both vehicles. MPT did not change at all. So IMO, this is a myth, and it's busted.

I've only done it for a few tank fulls now, so I'll keep doing it untill I'm out of this batch of Acetone. If something changes, I'll post