New Prodigy Bar installed

[bigtyme1]

Well I got my new Prodigy bar links installed tonight and what a difference. There much easier to install and will be simple to adjust. I sent my old links to Frank and he converted everything to a double adjustment, no need to take them off to adjust. Just one more step closer.

[awr68]

Good deal Mark!! :thumbsup:

[waynieZ]

Looks good.

[XLexusTech]

Looks good. I have found a few people who have had issues with the centering of the rear wheel in the opening. (wheel in too far forward) Apparantly it is part of the reason for the adsjustment of the lower arms.
Once you get the wheels on can you post a pic as well as let us know if you was ok out of the Box or was too far forward?

[bigtyme1]

I had them on out of the box originally with no problem when I took measurements, from what I undestand the people having issues were using 19 or 20 rims. I havent gotten the rims yet but my plan is 18's so I should be ok.

[68protouring454]

vins car with 18s the tires are way forward in the wheel house

[XLexusTech]

I had them on out of the box originally with no problem when I took measurements, from what I undestand the people having issues were using 19 or 20 rims. I havent gotten the rims yet but my plan is 18's so I should be ok.


Not sure I get that one. Center is center no matter if your 10 inches from it with 20 Inch wheels 9 inches with 18's ect. I realise that the effect is more noticable the further you go.
:cheers:

[Vegas69]

They are definitely toward the front slightly. When you go to a 19 from a 18 your tread diameter increases by 1.7". I measured mine recently on the centerline of the wheel center cap. I have 1" in the front and 2" in the back. It definitely could go back .5 inches but I don't have any rubbing as of yet and my drive shaft would be to damn short. I do like the idea of the swivel links and easy alignment and pinion adjustments. I'll eventually swap mine out. But for now I want to drive my car!!!!!!

[ProdigyCustoms]

What Mark (Bigtyme1) is trying to say is with the old stand by 335 / 30 / 18 tire which is less then 26" overall diameter, the none centering is not as noticable or problematic. However, when you stuff a nearly 27" tall 345 / 30 / 19 (Like Payback / EmptyNest), it becomes more obvious and more problematic. However not super noticable as Vegas never noticed until I asked him to measure.

However, the same problem exist on many leaf springs cars. We have been dealing with this in the drag race world for years. You can fit a 28" tire on these cars if you move the rear back a half inch. It is worse on some cars then others.

But yes, another reason we built the adjustability into our kit. Makes it nice to center the wheel.

Vegas, we just did Danny's 68, moved the rear back a 1/2", driveshaft is fine.

[Flash68]

What Mark (Bigtyme1) is trying to say is with the old stand by 335 / 30 / 18 tire which is less then 26" overall diameter, the none centering is not as noticable or problematic. However, when you stuff a nearly 27" tall 345 / 30 / 19 (Like Payback / EmptyNest), it becomes more obvious and more problematic. However not super noticable as Vegas never noticed until I asked him to measure.

However, the same problem exist on many leaf springs cars. We have been dealing with this in the drag race world for years. You can fit a 28" tire on these cars if you move the rear back a half inch. It is worse on some cars then others.

But yes, another reason we built the adjustability into our kit. Makes it nice to center the wheel.

Vegas, we just did Danny's 68, moved the rear back a 1/2", driveshaft is fine.

Thanks for the clear explanation as usual Frank! :thumbsup:

[XLexusTech]

What Mark (Bigtyme1) is trying to say is with the old stand by 335 / 30 / 18 tire which is less then 26" overall diameter, the none centering is not as noticable or problematic. However, when you stuff a nearly 27" tall 345 / 30 / 19 (Like Payback / EmptyNest), it becomes more obvious and more problematic. However not super noticable as Vegas never noticed until I asked him to measure.

However, the same problem exist on many leaf springs cars. We have been dealing with this in the drag race world for years. You can fit a 28" tire on these cars if you move the rear back a half inch. It is worse on some cars then others.

But yes, another reason we built the adjustability into our kit. Makes it nice to center the wheel.

Vegas, we just did Danny's 68, moved the rear back a 1/2", driveshaft is fine.


Frank what how you move the 1/2 inch? Did the bars alone allow for that much adjustment or did you slot the front perch or some other method?

[ProdigyCustoms]

The bars have about a half inch in or out, shorter or longer then the non adjustable bar.

For reference, And please no one think I am not picking on the car by anymeans. This car is gourgeous. This is just standard issue Camaro stuff. I could not help but notice the rear tire alignment. This is a 100% original panel body with leaf springs.

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u212/ProdigyCustoms/RTTHIV190.jpg

[XLexusTech]

Hey a few thoughts (selfish a bit hoping you intergrate these before I am ready to buy mine)

lengthen the threaded end to allow 3/4 to 1 inch of adjustment, And a hex bar or 1 inch of hex so you can wrench the arms, looks like they have no provision to adjust under load (without marring them up real bad)

[ProdigyCustoms]

The uppers spin with your bare hand if you unload them just right. I have considered adding a large nut on the tube, but then there is the problem of getting a wrench in there.

Even though it is a lot easier, it is still a PIA no matter how you slice it

[waynieZ]

How about using a strap wrench on them they are nylon and shouldn't scratch them . Plus you can slide the strap to the easyest spot to reach them.

[awr68]

I'm guessing that this really won't be a problem for most after the initial setup since we aren't building drag cars that might need way more tuning. Once the rear/ride height is setup most guys will leave well enough alone...

[bigtyme1]

The links turn real easy, I thought the same thing before I tried it.