View Full Version : New Adj. Rate Rear Swaybars from Hellwig
Marcus SC&C
09-09-2008, 09:25 AM
We`ve been doing some consulting with Hellwig lately and I thought you guys might enjoy a look at some of their trick new products. They`ve made swaybars for muscle cars,trucks etc. for years but their latest generation is really outstanding stuff. All their bars are hot die forged,heat treated 4140 chrome moly for durability and light weight.
Their new signature pieces are a line of adj. rate rear bars with modern OE style end links. They have 3 position adjustment (soft,med.,firm) to tune the handling of the car and the end links install really neat and clean. They have a textured hammertone finish that retains grease and reduces bushing contact area for smoother movement and no squeaking. Naturally they have a selection of front bars to match,in various sized for tunability. Here are a few pics of the 1st Gen Camaro adj. rear bar. They also have them for everything from Tri 5 Chevys to Mopars and Mustangs. We`re helping them with some more GM applications as we speak including an adj. rate rear bar for `62-`67 Chevy II ! Those with a Heidts or Chassisworks front end and leaf springs can finally upgrade the rear suspension as well. It`s made to work with the Chassisworks G-Bar 4 link as well. We`re really excited about these bars! http://www.scandc.com/hellwigswaybars.htm
http://www.scandc.com/images/1st-Gen-Camaro-Adj.-rear-bar_medium.jpg
http://www.scandc.com/images/Camaro-Adj.-Rear-Bar-Installed_medium.jpg
http://www.scandc.com/images/Camaro-Adj.-End-Links_medium.jpg
Roadrage David
09-21-2008, 01:11 AM
I need them for my DSE mini tubt first gen!!!!!! will they fit?????
Marcus SC&C
09-22-2008, 01:56 PM
It should fit just fine,the DSE kit doesn`t move the unibody rails and there`s lots of room at the spring pads. We even run them with G-Bar 4 link suspensions. Mark SC&C
BBC69Camaro
09-22-2008, 07:03 PM
Oh another item to add to the wish list!
How do they attach on a 1st Gen Camaro G-Bar rear suspension?
Bowtieracing
09-22-2008, 11:21 PM
Oh another item to add to the wish list!
How do they attach on a 1st Gen Camaro G-Bar rear suspension?
I am intrested as well!!
Have you drove any with G-bar ? :cheers:
Datsbad
09-23-2008, 06:02 AM
I am pretty sure Frank has been running one like that on empty nest. I saw it at run through the hills a couple weeks ago. I thought I saw a picture somewhere
deuce_454
09-23-2008, 10:40 AM
NICE... when is it shipping by the way?? :)
Roadrage David
09-24-2008, 11:17 PM
It should fit just fine,the DSE kit doesn`t move the unibody rails and there`s lots of room at the spring pads. We even run them with G-Bar 4 link suspensions. Mark SC&C
I wil be ordering one then within the near future then :thumbsup: :thumbsup: i was alredy looking to have a custom sway bar build!!! . ps when can they be orderd....
Marcus SC&C
09-26-2008, 06:49 AM
They mount the same way with a G Bar as they would on a leaf spring car. If you look at the pics and note the location of the axle mounts and end link location on the unibody you can tell if they`ll fit with any other suspension. We have clients running them with the G Bar on Camaros, Mustangs and Mopar B bodys with great results. We`ve been running and testing a prototype bar like similar to this one on our G-5 Cutlass for about 5 years now. The nice things is that the range of adj. is pretty large so you can compensate for various geometry/spring rate/sway bar rate combinations that are used in the front and get the car balanced the way you want it. We often see components from various manufacturers mixed and matched (which will often yield the best package for a given car) but to make them work best together you need to have some tunability in the system. These bars are a great way to dial a package in. :yes:
AJSZR2326
09-30-2008, 09:15 AM
please supply detailed pics on a g-bar suspension w/ coil overs also installation instructions as detailed as possible please, thx
Marcus SC&C
10-01-2008, 12:49 PM
I don`t have a data sheet for the Camaro handy but the early Mustang units install exactly the same way. If you saw them side by side you`d be hard pressed to tell which was which. Here`s a link to those data sheets. http://www.totalcontrolproducts.com/download/datasheets/58XX-MX0_DS_WEB.pdf The Hellwig bar`s links mount just forward of the G-Bar cradle and UCA mounts so there`s no interference. There`s also a frame mounted adj. rate Chassisworks bar for the G Bar for about twice the moolah. Mark SC&C
BBC69Camaro
04-06-2009, 03:46 PM
Looking for a rear sway bar now that I am further along. I might be wrong but doesn't it look like the mount on the passenger's side frame rail might interfere with the stock fuel line routing? I have ran two 1/2 lines on the inside of the frame-rail (similar to stock routing just 2 1/2 lines).
Any close up pics of the framerail mounting, especially on the passengers?
Thanks!
Bakaruda
04-06-2009, 03:52 PM
Do you have these for Mopars?:unibrow:
Vegas69
04-06-2009, 03:55 PM
Looking for a rear sway bar now that I am further along. I might be wrong but doesn't it look like the mount on the passenger's side frame rail might interfere with the stock fuel line routing? I have ran two 1/2 lines on the inside of the frame-rail (similar to stock routing just 2 1/2 lines).
Any close up pics of the framerail mounting, especially on the passengers?
Thanks!
Ditto
ProdigyCustoms
04-06-2009, 04:49 PM
You only drill a 5/8 hole through the frame rail and tack a sleeve in the hole. You should be able to move your lines a bit to get out of the way.
Sorry I do not have a detail shot of the frame mounting, but here are a few we have installed
http://s169.photobucket.com/albums/u212/ProdigyCustoms/DSC_0358.jpg
http://s169.photobucket.com/albums/u212/ProdigyCustoms/DSC_0352-1.jpg
http://s169.photobucket.com/albums/u212/ProdigyCustoms/DSC_0365-1.jpg
http://s169.photobucket.com/albums/u212/ProdigyCustoms/DSC_0124.jpg
http://s169.photobucket.com/albums/u212/ProdigyCustoms/DSC_0101-1.jpg
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