Log in

View Full Version : someone able/willing to finish pro-touring project for me (not for free of course) ?


Flash68
08-15-2008, 08:58 PM
Kind of a strange request I guess... but I might be "firing" my builder who has had my 68 Camaro in his shop in NV since December 2006. I have given him a deadline of end of Sept and if he is not done with the car (he should be close at least) I am trailering it back to the bay area. I am not really wanting to take it to one of the shops that would likely jack me with a bunch more T&M labor charges. I understand that is their business, but I don't think that is what I need at this final stage of the project. There aren't gonna be many more parts to buy, many some small misc things but that's about it.

Anyone interested, capable, willing, or know of anyone? I am in San Francisco and the car will probably be taken somewhere in the east bay where I work to be stored/garaged somewhere.

thanks in advance

Teetoe_Jones
08-15-2008, 09:45 PM
Where in Nevada is it? We have 1 open bay and would be willing to discuss it.

Tyler

Vegas69
08-15-2008, 10:06 PM
Judging by the photos, it won't be done by September regardless of who does it. Tyler would be a good choice if you do fire them. Looks like Los Wages to my TeeToe.
The finish work is everything on a car. If you have the skills and knowledge to do it yourself. Nobody knows your taste like you do. If you are an anal fuc. like me, maybe your better off with someone else doing it. Be done alot sooner.:unibrow:

Flash68
08-15-2008, 10:07 PM
Where in Nevada is it? We have 1 open bay and would be willing to discuss it.

Tyler

Unfortunately just outside of Reno. That would be great if I was close to you.

Thanks for the offer.

Flash68
08-15-2008, 10:10 PM
Judging by the photos, it won't be done by September regardless of who does it. Tyler would be a good choice if you do fire them. Looks like Los Wages to my TeeToe.
The finish work is everything on a car. If you have the skills and knowledge to do it yourself. Nobody knows your taste like you do. If you are an anal fuc. like me, maybe your better off with someone else doing it. Be done alot sooner.:unibrow:

The car is a lot further along than those photos. No recent ones since I live 4 hours away from the shop doing the work.

If I was closer I would definitely consider ATS, no doubt.

I have neither the skills or the tools/garage to work on my own cars. So I have to pay others to do it, which I am fine with.

Been fun following your build Vegas69.

Vegas69
08-15-2008, 10:10 PM
Thanks buddy. I have had to slow down on mine. Working my ass off and trying to finish the car in record time had to stop. Luckily I am at that 90 percent point. It's pretty inexpensive to get it here from Reno man.

Flash68
08-15-2008, 10:50 PM
Thanks buddy. I have had to slow down on mine. Working my ass off and trying to finish the car in record time had to stop. Luckily I am at that 90 percent point. It's pretty inexpensive to get it here from Reno man.

You're slowin down, I'm tryin to speed this **** up! :lol:

Yeah I just hope he can focus and get it done here so I don't have to take it somewhere. Keeping my fingers crossed, but just wanted to get some feelers out there in case I need to jump...

skatinjay27
08-15-2008, 10:51 PM
i would really consider ATS... they do top notch work in a timely manner and tyler is as honest as they come...its not easy to find a good shop for these types of builds.
o yeah i love you 68 its gonna be one bad mama jama.lol

Flash68
08-15-2008, 11:05 PM
i would really consider ATS... they do top notch work in a timely manner and tyler is as honest as they come...its not easy to find a good shop for these types of builds.
o yeah i love you 68 its gonna be one bad mama jama.lol

Man, lotsa ATS lovers here tonite! :D

I know they do great work - I just wish I was a little closer. NorCal is a looong ways away man....

Thanks for the kind words.

ironworks
08-16-2008, 03:32 AM
You can check out the work we do. I'm picking up a 68 next weekend which makes for our 2nd customer currently from the bay area. I'm going up there next saturday with a 2 car trailer to pick up rich allens car.

Rodger

CRCRFT78
08-16-2008, 11:01 AM
I need to make it down to Bakersfield to check out your shop.

ironworks
08-16-2008, 11:53 AM
Anytime, Seriously I meet guys at all hours of the day. After all these years I have gotten pretty good at the shop tour. It has been up graded from a nickel tour to the full 25 cent tour. I hope you like novas...........HAHA

rich-allen
08-16-2008, 12:21 PM
There are lots of talented builders on this website.
I've talked to Tyler (ATS) a bunch of times over the years and I would trust him to build my car. It just happens that Ironworks is located in Calif and that was a huge factor for me when picking a builder.

Granted, Bakersfield is every bit as far away as Reno but, when your building a car such as the ones on this site....I think you're damn lucky to find a builder that close.

I've spoken with Roger half a dozen times over the past couple weeks and I feel like I'm in very good hands.

You can't go wrong with either of these two shops.

Rich

tjbruning
08-16-2008, 12:22 PM
There are lots of talented builders on this website.
I've talked to Tyler (ATS) a bunch of times over the years and I would trust him to build my car. It just happens that Ironworks is located in Calif and that was a huge factor for me when picking a builder.

Granted, Bakersfield is every bit as far away as Reno but, when your building a car of the magnitude of the cars on this website you're damn lucky to find a builder that close.

I've spoken with Roger half a dozen times over the past couple weeks and I feel like I'm in very good hands.

You can't go wrong with either of these two shops.

Rich

Well said!

Tube chassis '68???

:unibrow:

rich-allen
08-16-2008, 12:27 PM
Well said!

Tube chassis '68???

:unibrow:

HAHA !! Hell NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

I'm sick and tired of going backwards. besides, I have a 67, real camaros have wing windows :D

Flash68
08-16-2008, 01:09 PM
You can check out the work we do. I'm picking up a 68 next weekend which makes for our 2nd customer currently from the bay area. I'm going up there next saturday with a 2 car trailer to pick up rich allens car.

Rodger

Thanks Rodger. I am familiar with your work from seeing you on this site. Very nice stuff indeed.

I will give you a ring if it gets to a point where I need to pull the trigger on someone else finishing it. I am also thinking that once it gets down to it, there likely shouldn't be that much left to do and thus preferring to keeping it more local. But we'll see....

thanks for posting

Flash68
08-16-2008, 01:10 PM
There are lots of talented builders on this website.
I've talked to Tyler (ATS) a bunch of times over the years and I would trust him to build my car. It just happens that Ironworks is located in Calif and that was a huge factor for me when picking a builder.

Granted, Bakersfield is every bit as far away as Reno but, when your building a car such as the ones on this site....I think you're damn lucky to find a builder that close.

I've spoken with Roger half a dozen times over the past couple weeks and I feel like I'm in very good hands.

You can't go wrong with either of these two shops.

Rich

Thanks Rich. What are you having done by Ironworks?

CRCRFT78
08-16-2008, 01:24 PM
I hope you like novas...........HAHA

Of course I do, thats my favorite car. I own a 1963 SS Convertible.

Hey when are we local guys going to get together? I need more car buddies.

Flash68
08-16-2008, 01:31 PM
Hey when are we local guys going to get together? I need more car buddies.

When I actually have a car that drives! :lol:

rich-allen
08-16-2008, 01:33 PM
These parts are new in the box.

Classic Auto Air
DSE Wiper kit
DSE battery relocation Kit
Synister serpentine kit
Ron Davis radiator
Hydroboost
Fuel lines, fittings ect.
T56 trans
Mcleod clutch pressure plate ect
ATS mounts
Fully built LS2
FAST ignition system
Gauges, console
Install interior (interior already done.)


Fabrication work being done by ironworks:

Smooth firewall
Sub frame connectors
Mini Tub
Bend / install brake lines


I've done a lot of work to the car including the front and rear suspension and fixed a lot of things the previous owner butchered.

Rodger said they could complete everything in about 90 days before I decided to tub it.

Some shops would keep your car for more than a year with less work than this.

Rich

CRCRFT78
08-16-2008, 01:40 PM
When I actually have a car that drives!
Yeah me to. I do have a Harley that runs for now though.

Flash68
08-16-2008, 02:08 PM
Yeah me to. I do have a Harley that runs for now though.

My Porsche drives but the mod bug has hit with that thing too! :_paranoid

But I'm so anxious for this Camaro to get done.

Flash68
08-16-2008, 02:10 PM
These parts are new in the box.

Classic Auto Air
DSE Wiper kit
DSE battery relocation Kit
Synister serpentine kit
Ron Davis radiator
Hydroboost
Fuel lines, fittings ect.
T56 trans
Mcleod clutch pressure plate ect
ATS mounts
Fully built LS2
FAST ignition system
Gauges, console
Install interior (interior already done.)


Fabrication work being done by ironworks:

Smooth firewall
Sub frame connectors
Mini Tub
Bend / install brake lines


I've done a lot of work to the car including the front and rear suspension and fixed a lot of things the previous owner butchered.

Rodger said they could complete everything in about 90 days before I decided to tub it.

Some shops would keep your car for more than a year with less work than this.

Rich

Rich, that's a nice parts list for sure.

I'm gonna send you a PM.

ironworks
08-16-2008, 03:21 PM
I do not believe in running a storage facility, even though that is a side effect of this business. You can ask anyone of my customers, about there experience in my shop. We get work done. We have 14 months in Johns nova at about a 75% work schedule. We have 7 months in Brians 63 nova at about 90% and almost 2 months in Erics convertible at about the same 90%. We are doing another 66 with similar frame and drivetrain as Eric's and I hope to have it set on the ground with a tube chassis and all the floors in 9 weeks. If a shop has the right staff and good scheduling, they can really get some work done. Technology has really helped to speed things up in my shop, we water jet 98% of all brackets and parts which is cheaper then hand fabbing all the parts, just due to the cost of labor involved.

Example the front crossmembers on Erics Nova are all water jet, there are 4 of them and I do not know any body who could make that part in 8 hours.So 8 hours x 65 = 520. I can cut and design those same plates for about 120ish dollars a piece. Plus you get the parts in about 4 hours and you have now gained 4 days and all the parts are ultra precision and you can do way cooler stuff. Shoot look at the slots in that same frame, can you imagine how long that would take on the mill to machine those same slots. You get the idea.

Thanks for all the kind words Guys, I have some talented staff, that love what they do.

Rodger

Flash68
08-16-2008, 04:28 PM
I do not believe in running a storage facility, even though that is a side effect of this business. You can ask anyone of my customers, about there experience in my shop. We get work done. We have 14 months in Johns nova at about a 75% work schedule. We have 7 months in Brians 63 nova at about 90% and almost 2 months in Erics convertible at about the same 90%. We are doing another 66 with similar frame and drivetrain as Eric's and I hope to have it set on the ground with a tube chassis and all the floors in 9 weeks. If a shop has the right staff and good scheduling, they can really get some work done. Technology has really helped to speed things up in my shop, we water jet 98% of all brackets and parts which is cheaper then hand fabbing all the parts, just due to the cost of labor involved.

Example the front crossmembers on Erics Nova are all water jet, there are 4 of them and I do not know any body who could make that part in 8 hours.So 8 hours x 65 = 520. I can cut and design those same plates for about 120ish dollars a piece. Plus you get the parts in about 4 hours and you have now gained 4 days and all the parts are ultra precision and you can do way cooler stuff. Shoot look at the slots in that same frame, can you imagine how long that would take on the mill to machine those same slots. You get the idea.

Thanks for all the kind words Guys, I have some talented staff, that love what they do.

Rodger

Sounds like you really run a top notch operation there Rodger.

ironworks
08-16-2008, 05:31 PM
Thanks

I have learned over the years, that building high end cars takes just as much talent behind the welding helmet as it does behind the computer. Somedays I shake my head and realize I had no clue 7 years ago what I was getting self into.

Most all the projects in my shop, are super high end, extremely detailed and thought out projects and they take considerable effort to organize and keep on track, It is way more complicated then just bolting on a carb and headers with low pro tires. So in order to do that we have to be willing to continue to grow and change.

96z28ss
08-17-2008, 12:27 PM
Since you don't have updated pictures do you have a real good idea of how far along the car is?
I would suggest getting the car and bring it home and going thru the car and see if its what you expected.
Then decide from there who to take the car to.
The new shop might not like the workmanship that was done at the previous shop and you may have to back track things abit which will cost you time and money.

I'd give the guys at Bruning Auto Design a call and see what they have to say. You might want to take your car up there.

mdprovee
08-17-2008, 12:44 PM
Might consider Gearhead Garage. They did work on Bassi's car, and they are doin mine now. They are a sight sponsor. They are located in Sac.

Flash68
08-17-2008, 01:20 PM
Since you don't have updated pictures do you have a real good idea of how far along the car is?
I would suggest getting the car and bring it home and going thru the car and see if its what you expected.
Then decide from there who to take the car to.
The new shop might not like the workmanship that was done at the previous shop and you may have to back track things abit which will cost you time and money.

I'd give the guys at Bruning Auto Design a call and see what they have to say. You might want to take your car up there.

The most recent pics I have are 2-3 months old and I know the few things he has gotten done since then (we have weekly calls to discuss).

I am going up there to see it in 2-3 weeks and if things are not moving as we discussed 2 weeks ago I will make arrangements to go back with a trailer at the end of Sept to bring it somewhere else.

What is Bruning all about? Not much of a website....

Flash68
08-17-2008, 01:20 PM
Might consider Gearhead Garage. They did work on Bassi's car, and they are doin mine now. They are a sight sponsor. They are located in Sac.

Thanks Mike. I sent you an email.

rjsjea
08-17-2008, 01:37 PM
PM sent regarding Bruning Auto..

96z28ss
08-17-2008, 08:24 PM
if you want to discuss Bruning Auto Design send me an e-mail or pm me and I'll shoot you my phone number and we can talk at length.

Short story is they have a shop full of cars that have been pulled from other shops and they get the job done. their the only shop I have been to where you can see progress on a daily basis.
I'm there almost every week. They probably cringe when they see my truck pull in.

awr68
08-17-2008, 10:12 PM
Man so sorry to hear that you may have to go get your car unfinished...after all this time thats a real bummer!!

Any and all the mentioned shops are quite capable of finishing the car.

Flash68
08-17-2008, 10:26 PM
Man so sorry to hear that you may have to go get your car unfinished...after all this time thats a real bummer!!

Any and all the mentioned shops are quite capable of finishing the car.

Yeah thanks Anthony. It is a total bummer, but now that I have him working to finish it in the next 6 weeks, I feel better and rejuvenated. And if he doesn't finish it, I will have a plan B already set up and a trailer ready to go get it and take it straight there.

How's your car coming along?

mdprovee
08-18-2008, 08:38 PM
Thanks Mike. I sent you an email.

I returned two to you.

awr68
08-18-2008, 10:31 PM
How's your car coming along?

Lets just say right now you are better off than me...it's finally back home and I can start my "Plan B"..........:(

gearheadgarage
08-21-2008, 09:07 PM
The staff here at Gearhead Garage can certainly meet or exceed your expectations. We are currently doing a 67 ProTouring Camaro with a virtually identical engine combo to yours: smallblock, Accel Stealthram & a ProCharger. Well versed in Camaro's, we are in business to get cars done & on the road, not to let them sit around & collect dust. It is a disservice to both the customer & to ourselves to let a car go untouched. Check out our website & our reputation- we focus heavily on quality & customer service. We've certainly NEVER had a car pulled to be completed at another shop. Located in Sacramento, we provide a full service facility that can perform any phase of your build in a timely manner- whether it be a partial step or a complete project.
Your car looks pretty awesome so far. Looks like you just need some assistance coming down the back stretch.

chopshop
08-23-2008, 06:26 AM
Kind of a strange request I guess... but I might be "firing" my builder who has had my 68 Camaro in his shop in NV since December 2006. I have given him a deadline of end of Sept and if he is not done with the car (he should be close at least) I am trailering it back to the bay area. I am not really wanting to take it to one of the shops that would likely jack me with a bunch more T&M labor charges. I understand that is their business, but I don't think that is what I need at this final stage of the project. There aren't gonna be many more parts to buy, many some small misc things but that's about it.

Anyone interested, capable, willing, or know of anyone? I am in San Francisco and the car will probably be taken somewhere in the east bay where I work to be stored/garaged somewhere.

thanks in advance
Id be happy to hat with you about it- Im in MA but have clients from as far away as Oregon currently and will offer references and anything else you want to ask. Im an open door shop.:thumbsup: