Suspended Pedals or floor mounted Pedals?

[tyoneal]

Hello:

Can some explain tome the pros and cons of the floor pedals like Tilton sells vs, the suspended pedals most of us are used to?

When is one preferable to the other?

Is anyone here using floor pedals in a PT car? If so, how do you like them?

Anything else anyone can add would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Ty O'Neal

[deuce_454]

the bottom mounted pedals are usually the choice in a race or rally car.. the reason is that it is possible to heel/toe brake with a bottom mounted set of pedals.. (breaking with the right foot, then while keeping the heel on the brake during the start of the turn in while seamlessly transitioning from braking, still with the right heel, and accelerating with the right toe or forefoot) and still having the left foot on the clutch... that way you can downshift, brake and blip the throttle at the same time...

on endurance race cars.. the pedal arrangement can also slide backwards and forward to accomodate different drivers... i think that is the case on a maclaren f1 too btw...

[swollen]

It does make heel/toe slightly easier. I much prefer the standard suspended pedals though. With some work you can heel toe just as easily by rolling your foot to the right while on the brake pedal and blip the throttle. Plus I dont care too much for the feeling of the clutch on a floor mount. Drove a porsche and absolutely hated it. Then again Im not used to floor mount and I assume it would be second nature after driving it for a little while.

[James OLC]

In your first gen Camaro you will often run into spacial issues with the floor mounted pedal boxes due to the toe boards at the base of the firewall. Since the floor mounted boxes most commonly have the master cylinders mounted behind the pedals themselves, the require quiet a bit (relatively speaking) of room behind them. With the Camaro's toe boards coming in at an angle (I'm talking about a stock configuration) they place the pedals much (again relatively speaking) further back in the car than the stock location. This may or may not be an issue, depending on your size, seating position, or desire to modify the firewall.

[ironworks]

Floor pedals are really nice and offer great function, but nothing looks better then some great hanging pedals. Steve Moal inspires me with every car he builds.

These are some pedals we are finishing up currently for the C6-57 truck project.

Rodger

[ccracin]

Floor pedals are really nice and offer great function, but nothing looks better then some great hanging pedals. Steve Moal inspires me with every car he builds.

These are some pedals we are finishing up currently for the C6-57 truck project.

Rodger

You're getting pretty good with Solidworks Rodger. Nice Stuff!

[ironworks]

I have had some aerospace smarty pants help from one of my friends.

Thanks they are pretty awesome. The gas pedal is being done right now.

Rodger

[deuce_454]

It does make heel/toe slightly easier. I much prefer the standard suspended pedals though. With some work you can heel toe just as easily by rolling your foot to the right while on the brake pedal and blip the throttle. Plus I dont care too much for the feeling of the clutch on a floor mount. Drove a porsche and absolutely hated it. Then again Im not used to floor mount and I assume it would be second nature after driving it for a little while.

that is propably much of the reason.. many of the pro rally and endurance drivers ar ebrought up in the smaller formulla classes.. formula ford, reanult, bmw, 3, 3000 and what they are all called.. and thet all have bottom mounted pedals.. even gokarts where they all start are that way...

[preston]

If you're building a car from scratch, especially if it has a flat floor, the floor mounted pedals are much easier to package and mount (rather than building a framework for them to hang off of. They also free up a lot of under dash space.

Another big advantage is the most pleasing palce to have the brake pedal is underneath the steering column, which is normally only accomplished with a bent pedal lever. Top mounts can be placed close to the steering column, but on the left side is too far, and on the right side it pushes the gas pedal over to the righ, and if you are fighing for clearance with the trans tunnel this 1-2" can be huge for ergonomics.

Once you drive them for a day or two, I don't even notice the difference between bottom or top mounted they both feel fine.

[tyoneal]

I appreciate the input. As I look at the equipment that is available and I watch the way the PT cars are constantly adapting more and more high tech approaches to a "better" builds, it really helps to get different peoples opinions on these things while you in the planning stage.

I was looking at the Tilton product line and having large feet (Size 15) I thought it might be nice while learning to drive correctly if I could easily adjust the pedals during the learning stage, of correct driving.

A couple more questions:

Who here has or has driven a car with the carbon clutches that Tilton sells?

How do/did you like them?

If you were open to really changing your ride, would you consider either the pedals or the clutches for it. If so why?

I know money is going to be a big one on this, but they have to be selling these to someone.

Thanks again for everything.

Ty O'Neal