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rogue
06-03-2008, 01:15 PM
Whomever owns this car. Amazing work :hail:
http://lh3.ggpht.com/daign2002/SERUtziP1xI/AAAAAAAAJ_o/GMpkz5t0UpA/s800/IMG_0948.jpg
http://lh5.ggpht.com/daign2002/SERUsTiP1uI/AAAAAAAAJ_Q/wCAW1kYjWqw/s800/IMG_1022.jpg
Does anyone know who makes the rear window "supports" or what they may be called? I'm looking for something like this for my car as well.

Steve1968LS2
06-03-2008, 01:22 PM
That's Dirk Vanzuuk's car. I do believe he custom made those.

Might be a good product for one of our vendors to develope, should be fairly easy to design and produce.

rogue
06-03-2008, 01:32 PM
That's Dirk Vanzuuk's car. I do believe he custom made those.

Might be a good product for one of our vendors to develope, should be fairly easy to design and produce.


Thanks Steve sent him a PM.

I'd definitely be in for a set if one of the vendors produced them :bow:

Jr
06-03-2008, 02:24 PM
Great looking camaro!

B Schein
06-03-2008, 04:01 PM
Do you have plastic windows you don’t need them with glass

Steve1968LS2
06-03-2008, 04:42 PM
Do you have plastic windows you don’t need them with glass

They look cool even with glass.. it's more of a homage to the old TA cars. I've also seen billet tabs on the front glass to give the same look.

B Schein
06-03-2008, 08:17 PM
I under stand its for looks in this case I guess I am just getting to be too much of a racer to put things on my car unless they are functional. On racecars with plastic windows they need the bars behind the windows so they don’t buckle and brake. But to put them on top of a glass window I don’t under stand its going make noise when you drive down the road and the car flexes, it will scratch the glass and also hold dirt between it and the glass. I have also used the little tabs we use those on cars that go really fast so the windows have some sort of mechanical fastener more so than just glue its not for looks cause they look awful its for function.

I Don’t mean critical or a jerk I am just getting tired of little trinket things on these cars that are some times very expensive and don’t make you car go any faster but just look cool. I guess that’s why I don’t come here much any more.

Steve1968LS2
06-03-2008, 08:45 PM
I under stand its for looks in this case I guess I am just getting to be too much of a racer to put things on my car unless they are functional. On racecars with plastic windows they need the bars behind the windows so they don’t buckle and brake. But to put them on top of a glass window I don’t under stand its going make noise when you drive down the road and the car flexes, it will scratch the glass and also hold dirt between it and the glass. I have also used the little tabs we use those on cars that go really fast so the windows have some sort of mechanical fastener more so than just glue its not for looks cause they look awful its for function.

I Don’t mean critical or a jerk I am just getting tired of little trinket things on these cars that are some times very expensive and don’t make you car go any faster but just look cool. I guess that’s why I don’t come here much any more.

I guess that's the difference between a sport (racing) and a hobby (hot rodding). To you this is a sport and ANYTHING that doesn't pertain to making the car go is pointless. That's fine, but many of us derive joy for the full spectrum of the hobby. We dig driving our cars, some of us drive them pretty hard. But, we also enjoy making them look cool, or nice, or giving them hints of race heritage.

We may not be up for trading paint while trying to get better lane position, doesn't mean we're doing it wrong. Expensive is relative... hell, I KNOW Dirk doesn't have a bunch of money in his ride. Besides, trinkets, widgets and whatnot are fine, especially if they don't hurt performance.

Since when did "looking cool" become a bad thing in hot rodding?

rogue
06-03-2008, 09:35 PM
I under stand its for looks in this case I guess I am just getting to be too much of a racer to put things on my car unless they are functional. On racecars with plastic windows they need the bars behind the windows so they don’t buckle and brake. But to put them on top of a glass window I don’t under stand its going make noise when you drive down the road and the car flexes, it will scratch the glass and also hold dirt between it and the glass. I have also used the little tabs we use those on cars that go really fast so the windows have some sort of mechanical fastener more so than just glue its not for looks cause they look awful its for function.

I Don’t mean critical or a jerk I am just getting tired of little trinket things on these cars that are some times very expensive and don’t make you car go any faster but just look cool. I guess that’s why I don’t come here much any more.


Different strokes for different folks. They suit my car quite well. If I ran a lexan window would you feel better?
http://lh5.ggpht.com/daign2002/R7nYeU7-riI/AAAAAAAAHfE/XLl2vAK7qxA/s800/IMG_2799.JPG
And I believe Dirk's camaro is amazing...

Build what you want to build and let me build mine.

TwinTurboMach1
06-04-2008, 06:10 AM
Nice camaro Rouge!

Absolutely Bad ass and almost the oposite of everything else on here.

Cheap steel wheels instead of 1200$ custom ones is an Awsome look! :thumbsup:

vanzuuk1
11-28-2010, 03:40 AM
I just stumbled across this...

Rogue your car looks badass, I still have my black wheels.:cheers:


Steve is right, my car is pretty low budget.The front spoiler was made from I sign I removed at work and I hammered out the window straps on the cement steps of my old apartment..The airbox is a six dollar cake pan.The motor and trans and most of the suspension were bought used from a fellow member here who gave me a great deal, and Steevo helped out with some used parts he had. My good friend john helped with all the heavy lifting, he is a gm mechanic. Anything thats not green including the interior and engine bay was painted with only the finest spray cans.I painted the steel wheels using the kitchen oven to dry them.The green paint and bodywork were done about twenty years and two owners ago.


Yup just another big budget, spare no expense build.


And a little foam tape between the rear strap and the windows protects the glass.

RECOVERY ROOM
11-28-2010, 09:16 AM
Since when did "looking cool" become a bad thing in hot rodding?[/QUOTE]

You are correct Rupp, Good answer :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Roberts68
11-28-2010, 10:40 AM
Hey, sidenote here... What is the name of the gold? Is that Ash gold? Mine was originally is why I ask.

It looks good, your car has an awesome presence and I think it looks like something that either Dr.Yunick, Dr. Guldstrand or Dr. Donahue could have smacked on the rear bumper when it was born just like a regular Dr. does when delivering another precious soul into our world. :thumbsup:

Keep building her the way YOU want her! There are far, far more ludicrous themes pursued and embraced by the masses all the time. :_paranoid
:cheers:

JV69z/28
11-28-2010, 05:35 PM
The NASCAR '75 Laguna PHR project car had the rear window straps (as well as other racing ques). Here's a link to the story where they made them.
http://www.popularhotrodding.com/tech/0904phr_1975_chevy_laguna_parts_accessories/hood_extractor_vents_advanced_waterjet.html

68protouring454
11-28-2010, 06:18 PM
the reason for the straps on the outside of the back window is so if the window blows out, the rear window will never buckle inwards, but with the hi pressure in the cabin, in can blow out, so they are used as a safety, much as the front braces hold it from buckling in

Track Junky
11-28-2010, 06:37 PM
Thumbs up on the wheels Rogue:thumbsup:

coolwelder62
11-28-2010, 07:12 PM
The strap's I built for my last project were simple to make. Picked some .125x.750 alum strap from the local hardware store. Cut and bent to shape. Used revit,nuts from mcmaster carr bolt it the body and some small rubber bumper's to keep the strip's from banging on the glass. My front tab's never touched the glass just for look's:thumbsup: .

Tom Fuehrer
11-29-2010, 06:15 AM
We call them window straps. As mentioned, they are intended to keep the rear window from blowing out. On a typical SCCA racer there would also be "clips" on the windshield for the same reason. A 360 degree spin at speed will blow out a windshield pretty easily.

To be authentic they need to attach to the body work. It looks like the one's on Dirk's car attach to the window trim. The ones I have fabricated have been made from 1" wide 0.125" aluminum.

Dirk's car caught my attention - very nice. My '69 Vintage Race project will be Fathom Green also.

Tom

rwhite692
11-29-2010, 10:21 AM
Hey, sidenote here... What is the name of the gold? Is that Ash gold? Mine was originally is why I ask.





Olympic Gold, Code 65.

My 69 was the same color, originally.

buickfunnycar.com
11-29-2010, 12:01 PM
I under stand its for looks in this case I guess I am just getting to be too much of a racer to put things on my car unless they are functional. On racecars with plastic windows they need the bars behind the windows so they don’t buckle and brake. But to put them on top of a glass window I don’t under stand its going make noise when you drive down the road and the car flexes, it will scratch the glass and also hold dirt between it and the glass. I have also used the little tabs we use those on cars that go really fast so the windows have some sort of mechanical fastener more so than just glue its not for looks cause they look awful its for function.

I Don’t mean critical or a jerk I am just getting tired of little trinket things on these cars that are some times very expensive and don’t make you car go any faster but just look cool. I guess that’s why I don’t come here much any more.

Laughing at these comments which didn't really need to be made...momma always told me "to each their own".:yes:

vanzuuk1
11-29-2010, 05:41 PM
Thanks Ratman, the car just got a mild facelift and the gas cap is gone..sort of.

I did not have the heart to drill into the roof, one of the few times I got timid with the original metal!


The car is not a poser-track days in the rain, autox, donuts on the internet...you get the idea.