Project "Redfire" 69 Camaro

[redfire69]

So I've finally made some real progress on Redfire, so I'd thought I'd share some pics of the metal work. I'm attempting all the metal work myself which includes new everything. I'm concentrating on getting back to a roller before working on the suspension and drivetrain. Ron

Here's the new inner quarter replacement on the pass side. This $70 panel saved me at least day of fabbing

http://sites.google.com/site/redfire1969/index-htm/redfireupdate1.jpg

re-skinning the pass door, the goodmark skin fits good. The door fitting on the car is different story.

http://sites.google.com/site/redfire1969/index-htm/redfireupdate2.jpg

and here's some pics of the DSE closeout and blower motor smoothing. I welded the DSE using rosets (sp?) from behind to keep the outer lip intact.

http://sites.google.com/site/redfire1969/index-htm/redfireupdate3.jpg

http://sites.google.com/site/redfire1969/index-htm/redfireupdate4.jpg

http://sites.google.com/site/redfire1969/index-htm/redfireupdate5.jpg

[redfire69]

Here's the last pic on the closeout and the back-half mocked together with the poor fitting deck lid. I'm going to try the original as it measures anywhere from an eighth to a quarter wider!!!

http://sites.google.com/site/redfire1969/index-htm/redfireupdate6.jpg

http://sites.google.com/site/redfire1969/index-htm/redfireupdate7.jpg

[XcYZ]

Cool, that's a lot of work. :cheers:

[redfire69]

I've gotten alot of great advice from members here and as a novice I really appreciate it!! :lateral:

Here's some pics from last month when I installed the new goodmark speaker shelf which actually installed without a fight! It goes from the back seat to inside the trunk and includes the weather strip lip.

Ron

http://sites.google.com/site/redfire1969/index-htm/update7.jpg

http://sites.google.com/site/redfire1969/index-htm/update8.jpg

[Aschle]

Very nice !

Jason

[GHOSTDANCER]

Looks good :thumbsup:

[redfire69]

Made a little more progress, new inner/outer rockers, inner WWs, toe pans, and one piece floor pan installed. The inner GM WWs fit great. Wish I could find more GM metal.

http://sites.google.com/site/redfire1969/index-htm/CamaroNoFloor3.jpg

http://sites.google.com/site/redfire1969/index-htm/CamaroNewInnerWW.jpg

http://sites.google.com/site/redfire1969/index-htm/CamaroFloorSm1.jpg

http://sites.google.com/site/redfire1969/index-htm/CamaroFloorSm2.jpg

[redfire69]

So it's been a while since my last update, just now perfecting the gaps and measurements on the quarters, trunk, and tail pan. Until then, here's a few pics of the MD valance mock up.

http://sites.google.com/site/redfire1969/index-htm/redfirevalance1.jpg

http://sites.google.com/site/redfire1969/index-htm/redfirevalance2.jpg

[tones2SS]

Looking good Ron.
I'm digging the Marquez spoiler!:thumbsup:

[camaro2nv]

Looking great!

[89 RS]

Looking good. :thumbsup:

[67rstbkt]

Lookin real good! :hail:

[redfire69]

Thanks guys!

Just got my vent delete CF cowl from Anvil. This stuff is too nice to paint over.... :unibrow:


http://sites.google.com/site/redfire1969/index-htm/redfire-cowl2.jpg

http://sites.google.com/site/redfire1969/index-htm/redfire-cowl1.jpg

httpsites.google.com/site/redfire1969/index-htm/redfire-cowl3.jpg

[redfire69]

Installed trunk drop offs and inner tailpan.

http://sites.google.com/site/redfire1969/index-htm/julyupdate1.jpg

http://sites.google.com/site/redfire1969/index-htm/julyupdate2.jpg

[redfire69]

20 minutes and 3 cutoff wheels to remove the roof panel (not including window/rail seams) Will also have to replace front most roof support. Hopefully this is *last* surprise!

http://sites.google.com/site/redfire1969/index-htm/julyupdate4.jpg

http://sites.google.com/site/redfire1969/index-htm/julyupdate5.jpg

Pic of the new roof panel, hopefully it will fit well:

http://sites.google.com/site/redfire1969/index-htm/julyupdate3.jpg

[redfire69]

Removed old roof rails and remaining roof panel edges at the front and rear windows by grind out the spot welds.

Installed new roof drip rails:

http://sites.google.com/site/redfire1969/index-htm/julyupdate6.jpg

http://sites.google.com/site/redfire1969/index-htm/julyupdate7.jpg

[redfire69]

So besides the rust along the window channels on the roof panel, I knew this small hole was hiding a bigger problem.... check out the pics, the second one is the underside of the roof panel near the driver's a-pillar.

http://sites.google.com/site/redfire1969/index-htm/julyupdate8.jpg

http://sites.google.com/site/redfire1969/index-htm/julyupdate9.jpg

[tones2SS]

Like you said Ron. RUST NEVER SLEEPS!!!
Good luck with the build and keep us posted.:cheers:

[redfire69]

Like you said Ron. RUST NEVER SLEEPS!!!
Good luck with the build and keep us posted.:cheers:

Thanks tones2SS, I knew the hole would be bigger, but I didn't expect the underlying support to need replacement too...LOL. At least I'll know what I've got when I'm done. I've seen a few local guys patch these cars at the front window channel - which just isn't worth it considering the cost of the roof panel etc..

Ron

[aany001]

can you still run a front bumper with that lower valance???

[tones2SS]

Thanks tones2SS, I knew the hole would be bigger, but I didn't expect the underlying support to need replacement too...LOL. At least I'll know what I've got when I'm done. I've seen a few local guys patch these cars at the front window channel - which just isn't worth it considering the cost of the roof panel etc..

Ron

Yeah, if you're gonna do it. Do it right. ESPECIALLY a pro-tour car!!:thumbsup:

[Kendall Burleson]

Very Nice Work love the details more pics.:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[redfire69]

can you still run a front bumper with that lower valance???


Sorry, I just now saw this post. You can run a front bumper with reduced mounting points. I'm gonna run a smoothed bumper (no fangs/bolts) tucked up close to the body.

[redfire69]

Just got these:

http://sites.google.com/site/redfire1969/index-htm/redfireDH1.jpg

http://sites.google.com/site/redfire1969/index-htm/redfireDH2.jpg

[waynieZ]

Nice looking handles. Your doing a nice job on the body, keep up the good work.

[cdushane]

Just got these:

http://members.cox.net/redfire69/images/redfireDH1.jpg

http://members.cox.net/redfire69/images/redfireDH2.jpg

are these a direct replacement of the factory door handles or does it require modifications to the door?

[redfire69]

Direct replacement w gaskets included! These are the full polished version of the 2 peice handles on Evade. RB should have available on their website soon.

are these a direct replacement of the factory door handles or does it require modifications to the door?

[redfire69]

Thanks Wayne! I'm still learning as I go and I can't wait to get redfire to a full roller.

Nice looking handles. Your doing a nice job on the body, keep up the good work.

[redfire69]

Just got my Razor carbon fiber and billet quarter gilles. Talk about a work of art! Big thanks to Ring Brothers, especially Staci and Mike! More pics to follow as I get them installed...Ron

http://sites.google.com/site/redfire1969/index-htm/redfirerazorgills1.JPG

http://sites.google.com/site/redfire1969/index-htm/redfirerazorgills2.JPG

[melman109]

Wow those look sexy!! :thumbsup:

[Matt@BOS]

Those Ring Brothers parts look really nice Ron! Can't wait to see them mocked up. Are you planning on painting the CF or leaving it bare?

BTW, when you modify the front bumper, you might want to make some sort of support bracket for the middle. We did the same thing and noticed it sagged a little bit without one.

Matt

[redfire69]

Yeah Matt, they are awesome! Plan on leaving them bare glossy. Will probably run the Anvil spoiler too. Haven't made a decision on running the hood with exposed CF yet. Will paint over the Anvil vent delete cowl. Your's came out killer BTW.

Yeah I need to fab up a support bracket for middle on the front valance and bumper. thanks for the tip! Ron

[waynieZ]

I love those quarter vent sections, They'll look great .

[tones2SS]

Man, those look killer.:hail:

[DFRESH]

Ron, those qtr panel inserts look awesome---as do the handles---love that Marquez lower valance---what a great car you have coming together---keep putting up pics--looking forward to your next round of progress--

Doug

[redfire69]

Nothing too exciting, but I did find some time to replace the front center and left roof brace. The last of the evil rust.

http://sites.google.com/site/redfire1969/index-htm/roofbrace5.JPG

http://sites.google.com/site/redfire1969/index-htm/roofbrace2.JPG

http://sites.google.com/site/redfire1969/index-htm/roofbrace3.JPG

http://sites.google.com/site/redfire1969/index-htm/roofbrace4.JPG

[ja.stoner63]

Love the RB parts! You're making some great head way and I love the direction you going with your car. It will be SWEET!:thumbsup:

[redfire69]

Here's a few pics of fitting the smooth bumper.

http://sites.google.com/site/redfire1969/index-htm/bumper1.JPG

http://sites.google.com/site/redfire1969/index-htm/bumper2.JPG

http://sites.google.com/site/redfire1969/index-htm/bumper3.JPG

http://sites.google.com/site/redfire1969/index-htm/bumper4.JPG

[tones2SS]

Very nice Ron. That smooth bumper looks great!:yes:

[redfire69]

Here's a few parts I've been accumulating.

http://sites.google.com/site/redfire1969/index-htm/anvil1.jpg

http://sites.google.com/site/redfire1969/index-htm/anvil2.jpg

http://sites.google.com/site/redfire1969/index-htm/anvil3.jpg

http://sites.google.com/site/redfire1969/index-htm/anvil4.jpg

http://sites.google.com/site/redfire1969/index-htm/anvil5.jpg

[redfire69]

So I started working on the quarter gilles. Fabbing the recesses should be fun!

https://sites.google.com/site/redfirecamaro/oct11.jpg

https://sites.google.com/site/redfirecamaro/oct11_2.jpg

https://sites.google.com/site/redfirecamaro/oct11_3.jpg

[colburn22]

what company did you go with for your front bumper?

[redfire69]

what company did you go with for your front bumper?

Marquez Design front bumper. It's not showing on the web store, so I'd just give them a call.

http://www.marquezdesign.com/blog/wp-content/gallery/2011-catalog/2011-marquez-design-catalog24.jpg

[214Chevy]

Here's a few parts I've been accumulating.

....and what a nice accumulation it is. Hurry up and get them installed...I wanna see. :wow: :wow: :wow:

[Thumpt]

Hey there you got any updates on this fine project.:thumbsup:

[redfire69]

Hey there you got any updates on this fine project.:thumbsup:

Thanks Thumpt! I'm still working on the quarter gilles. Should have an update, and a rendering :_paranoid , soon....

[redfire69]

Just thought I'd share my final rendering for my Camaro. Carter totally nailed the vision I've had for this project, which, up until now was just a picture in my head!! :unibrow:

http://sites.google.com/site/redfire1969/index-htm/redfire_final1024x768.jpg

[214Chevy]

I like the infusion of all that carbon fiber. :yes:

[waynieZ]

Very Nice!

[coolwelder62]

WoW!! I really like the direction this build is headed.:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[makoshark]

The car looks killer! However, one thing is standing out like a sore thumb to me no offense. That quarter insert should be painted with the body. It just looks like something that was bolted on instead of grafted into the body. Just my 5 cents worth of opinion:)

[Leadfoot1]

The car looks killer! However, one thing is standing out like a sore thumb to me no offense. That quarter insert should be painted with the body. It just looks like something that was bolted on instead of grafted into the body. Just my 5 cents worth of opinion:)

We think alike....., i understand that the cf is expensive, that you'd like it to show for people to notice and all, but, reffering to Mako's comment, i would even say the same about the bumper and trunk lid...they look like its a car/ project that's been upgraded over the week end that the parts have not been yet painted (no offence meant). As an example of what can be done nicely, take Larry Callahan's car, he had the paint ''Climb'' onto the parts to some extent so they show leaving some CF to show, but its at least integrated into the scheme, not just put there as a mere bolt on.

You could do a stripe (large single) using the lower valance's opening for width and carry it over the whole car cutting it early at the base of the windshield like the original Z striping kinda and you would have to find something special to do at the base of the back glass since the panel there is not CF made (is it available?) and therefore the stripe could not go end on it but a nice trim with aluminum rivets (I'm thinking of the black bad ass 67 fastback mustang tthat was built awhile ago....with the big scooped with grilles kinda stuff) for a third light or something to fill the space permitting the stripe to end on the lid while the rest of the space beeing filled.

Lol! Just an idea....Hey, its just my 2 pennies worth, trying to help thats all... ;)

Any idea on the red you want to use? Its going to be killer when done.

Lead.

[redfire69]

Thanks guys! :thumbsup:

I like the infusion of all that carbon fiber. :yes:

Very Nice!


WoW!! I really like the direction this build is headed.:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[redfire69]

No offense taken on the feedback. I liked the look of the green 69 Finch built and that was the look I was going for. I'm still considering a large single stripe and I'm looking into having a CF panel made for between the rear window and deck lid. Right now I'm planning on using the red jewel metallic color from the new Camaro. :thumbsup:

We think alike....., i understand that the cf is expensive, that you'd like it to show for people to notice and all, but, reffering to Mako's comment, i would even say the same about the bumper and trunk lid...they look like its a car/ project that's been upgraded over the week end that the parts have not been yet painted (no offence meant). As an example of what can be done nicely, take Larry Callahan's car, he had the paint ''Climb'' onto the parts to some extent so they show leaving some CF to show, but its at least integrated into the scheme, not just put there as a mere bolt on.

You could do a stripe (large single) using the lower valance's opening for width and carry it over the whole car cutting it early at the base of the windshield like the original Z striping kinda and you would have to find something special to do at the base of the back glass since the panel there is not CF made (is it available?) and therefore the stripe could not go end on it but a nice trim with aluminum rivets (I'm thinking of the black bad ass 67 fastback mustang tthat was built awhile ago....with the big scooped with grilles kinda stuff) for a third light or something to fill the space permitting the stripe to end on the lid while the rest of the space beeing filled.

Lol! Just an idea....Hey, its just my 2 pennies worth, trying to help thats all... ;)

Any idea on the red you want to use? Its going to be killer when done.

Lead.

[Ron in SoCal]

No offense taken on the feedback. I liked the look of the green 69 Finch built and that was the look I was going for. I'm still considering a large single stripe and I'm looking into having a CF panel made for between the rear window and deck lid. Right now I'm planning on using the red jewel metallic color from the new Camaro. :thumbsup:

First off Ron, love the render/design and build it as it makes you happy! You'll have a killer car no matter what direction you go. :cheers: Second, as far as the single stripe and rear window to decklid area I had the same delima. I simply stopped short of that panel and called it a day. I'll see if I can find a pic. There really not much you can do there but I do like your thinking of replacing w a true carbon piece. Really, it's done all the time - Amir did it, and at SEMA this year I saw a 5th Gen w embedded carbon GS stripes on flat black fenders. Looked really cool, but speaking with the owner it's also a lot of work. (do it :thumbsup: :D )

[DOOM]

Ron don't change a thing!!! Its awsome!!! It looks like you parts fit a hell of alot better than mine thats for sure..

[redfire69]

Thanks Ron! I'm happy with the design as is, but I've been looking for someone to build the rear panel out of CF by using a repop part as a mold... :_paranoid

First off Ron, love the render/design and build it as it makes you happy! You'll have a killer car no matter what direction you go. :cheers: Second, as far as the single stripe and rear window to decklid area I had the same delima. I simply stopped short of that panel and called it a day. I'll see if I can find a pic. There really not much you can do there but I do like your thinking of replacing w a true carbon piece. Really, it's done all the time - Amir did it, and at SEMA this year I saw a 5th Gen w embedded carbon GS stripes on flat black fenders. Looked really cool, but speaking with the owner it's also a lot of work. (do it :thumbsup: :D )

[redfire69]

Thanks Mario! These repop parts are hell, and these cars differ so much from one to another. I've lost count on the hours I've spent making the quarters, doors, tail pan, etc line up! :cheers:

Ron don't change a thing!!! Its awsome!!! It looks like you parts fit a hell of alot better than mine thats for sure..

[creekwood08]

When you ordering wheels? I'd love to see em mocked up on the car :unibrow: I haven't seen anyone with the rb3c.

[Payton King]

but find a real good air brush artist to paint it to match the deck lid.

Car looks killer!

[redfire69]

but find a real good air brush artist to paint it to match the deck lid.

Car looks killer!

Thanks Payton! Yeah, I also thought of looking up the guys that did the work on Evade. Still, a true CF piece would be nice.

[redfire69]

When you ordering wheels? I'd love to see em mocked up on the car :unibrow: I haven't seen anyone with the rb3c.

probably not until after the metal work and front frame is done. Looks like coolwelder62 will have them first!

[coolwelder62]

probably not until after the metal work and front frame is done. Looks like coolwelder62 will have them first!I need to pay for my NewGen's Rattler's 1st.before order some forgeline's.:thumbsup:

[redfire69]

I'm diggin' the Porsche GT2 RS...not sure why! :unibrow:

http://pictures.topspeed.com/IMG/crop/201012/porsche-gt2-rs-by-wi_800x0w.jpg

http://pictures.topspeed.com/IMG/crop/201012/porsche-gt2-rs-by-wi-3_800x0w.jpg

http://pictures.topspeed.com/IMG/crop/201012/porsche-gt2-rs-by-wi-9_800x0w.jpg

[redfire69]

Small update, installed my Marquez Design billet hinges for mocking up the CF decklid... excuse the dust...LOL!

https://sites.google.com/site/redfirecamaro/hinge1.JPG

https://sites.google.com/site/redfirecamaro/hinge2.JPG

https://sites.google.com/site/redfirecamaro/hinge3.JPG

[coolwelder62]

Lookin Good.:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[Rick D]

Looks great how's the rest coming along? Also yah not sure what not to like about that GT :thumbsup:

[Jgpclone]

looking good man:thumbsup:

[SnakeEater]

Rendering looks sweet and seem to be making good progress. I like the Porsche gt 2rs as well. Subscribed :thumbsup:

[coolwelder62]

probably not until after the metal work and front frame is done. Looks like coolwelder62 will have them first!When I went to place my order for some RB3C's.They was a 6-8 week wait for the rim shell size I needed.So I ordered a set of ZX3's.

[redfire69]

Anvil decklid fits well with the Marquez hinges. I had to change the struts to a very light 30 pound pressure.

https://sites.google.com/site/redfirecamaro/cfdecklid1.JPG

https://sites.google.com/site/redfirecamaro/cfdecklid2.JPG

[DOOM]

Ron the fit looks awesome !! A thousand time better than mine... Keep the updates coming!

[coolwelder62]

Look's great.!!!.:thumbsup:

[rsgt]

Its looking good! Lots of hard work. I like the rendering of your car. Will you be using lead or lead free body solder on your sail panel seams?

[redfire69]

Ron the fit looks awesome !! A thousand time better than mine... Keep the updates coming!

Thanks Mario, your car looks great too! Panel gapping is so much fun!

Look's great.!!!.:thumbsup:

Thanks! :lateral:

[redfire69]

Its looking good! Lots of hard work. I like the rendering of your car. Will you be using lead or lead free body solder on your sail panel seams?

Thanks Randy! I'll let my body guy decide. After I finish weld the quarters and roof, it's off to the body shop!

[redfire69]

My name is Ron and I have a carbon fiber problem...LOL!

https://sites.google.com/site/redfirecamaro/fender1.jpg

https://sites.google.com/site/redfirecamaro/fender2.jpg

https://sites.google.com/site/redfirecamaro/fender3.jpg

[Rick D]

:wow: :wow: :wow: :wow: :wow:

Ron are those the new Anvil fenders and front valance?? How do they fit and can you leave them in carbon or do they need body work to make them straight??

And :yes: You have a carbin problem :rofl:

Also I didn't know those were available yet??

[214Chevy]

My name is Ron and I have a carbon fiber problem...


Your name is Ron, and you have a bad a$$ car!! :hail: :hail: Love the whole carbon fiber front clip. Only thing...I hope your color will be a dark one so the carbon fiber will blend in nicely.

[redfire69]

:wow: :wow: :wow: :wow: :wow:

Ron are those the new Anvil fenders and front valance?? How do they fit and can you leave them in carbon or do they need body work to make them straight??

And :yes: You have a carbin problem :rofl:

Also I didn't know those were available yet??


Hey Rick, yeah the new Anvil front clip. Fits great, very little to no body work. You could gap the doors and run in bare cf. They got one set of full cf, one of cf/fg, and a few fg. I love the wide fender look and the tucked valence with integrated bumper is awesome! :unibrow:

[redfire69]

Your name is Ron, and you have a bad a$$ car!! :hail: :hail: Love the whole carbon fiber front clip. Only thing...I hope your color will be a dark one so the carbon fiber will blend in nicely.


Thanks, appreciate it! :thumbsup:

[Stielow]

The Anvil stuff looks great. Any SWAG on the mass saving over the stock steel front sheet metal?

Thanks Mark

[Jgpclone]

holy shez :hail: its gana be a bad ass ride

[redfire69]

The Anvil stuff looks great. Any SWAG on the mass saving over the stock steel front sheet metal?

Thanks Mark

Thanks Mark, I want to say 80lbs or more. Tracy @Anvil did tell me a few months back but I forget the exact amount.

EDIT: probably a little more than 80lb savings..LOL. The full CF front end will weigh about 56lbs, less than the weight of a stock hood!!

Ron

[Stielow]

Thanks Mark, I want to say 80lbs or more. Tracy @Anvil did tell me a few months back but I forget the exact amount.

EDIT: probably a little more than 80lb savings..LOL. The full CF front end will weigh about 56lbs, less than the weight of a stock hood!!

Ron

Wow cool. Can't wait until I get the stuff. Are you planning on running a 11 inch wide front rim?

You car is looking good. Thank you for the information.

Mark

[syborg tt]

I have no clue how I missed this thread and it looks like you are building the car in your garage which is awesome !!

The Carter Hickman Rendering is looks perfect.

http://sites.google.com/site/redfire1969/index-htm/redfire_final1024x768.jpg

and I love where you got your inspiration. ( yes I really want this car and so does my wife )

http://pictures.topspeed.com/IMG/crop/201012/porsche-gt2-rs-by-wi_800x0w.jpg

and the new Anvil front clip looks incredible. Are you planning on runing the driving lights on your front clip similar to what Mark posted in his thread.

http://sites.google.com/site/redfire1969/index-htm/fender1.jpg

ps - I assume you are running there new inner fenders also and I love the fact that you can get a replacement fender if you happen to damage your fender.

I can't wait to see this car in paint as it is exactly what I would build if I was doing a 69 Camaro. This car really has me excited to see it finished.

[Amituk]

Just got my Razor carbon fiber and billet quarter gilles. Talk about a work of art! Big thanks to Ring Brothers, especially Staci and Mike! More pics to follow as I get them installed...Ron

http://sites.google.com/site/redfire1969/index-htm/redfirerazorgills1.JPG

http://sites.google.com/site/redfire1969/index-htm/redfirerazorgills2.JPG

When you fit those, where is all that air going to vent?
Do you have some kinda ducting or air box on the back?

Loving the build though.

Amit

[srh3trinity]

I know I have seen the thread, but I don't know if I have seen the rendering. If you can get close to that rendering you will really have something special.

[redfire69]

Wow cool. Can't wait until I get the stuff. Are you planning on running a 11 inch wide front rim?

You car is looking good. Thank you for the information.

Mark

Thanks! Yes probably 10 or 11 inch front rim.

[redfire69]

I have no clue how I missed this thread and it looks like you are building the car in your garage which is awesome !!

The Carter Hickman Rendering is looks perfect.

http://sites.google.com/site/redfire1969/index-htm/redfire_final1024x768.jpg

and I love where you got your inspiration. ( yes I really want this car and so does my wife )

http://pictures.topspeed.com/IMG/crop/201012/porsche-gt2-rs-by-wi_800x0w.jpg

and the new Anvil front clip looks incredible. Are you planning on runing the driving lights on your front clip similar to what Mark posted in his thread.

http://sites.google.com/site/redfire1969/index-htm/fender1.jpg

ps - I assume you are running there new inner fenders also and I love the fact that you can get a replacement fender if you happen to damage your fender.

I can't wait to see this car in paint as it is exactly what I would build if I was doing a 69 Camaro. This car really has me excited to see it finished.

Thanks! I've got the front light buckets from Anvil. I haven't test fit my Marquez lights yet but have been told they fit. I also plan on running the CF inner fenders along with the custom extensions to mate up with the wide body fenders. Thanks again, Ron :lateral:

[redfire69]

When you fit those, where is all that air going to vent?
Do you have some kinda ducting or air box on the back?

Loving the build though.

Amit

Hi Amit, I plan on fabbing air ducts from the quarter vents to the inner wheel well for additional brake cooling. I'll post up pics when I'm working on those... Thanks, Ron

[redfire69]

I know I have seen the thread, but I don't know if I have seen the rendering. If you can get close to that rendering you will really have something special.

Thanks Stephen, appreciate it! It make take a while doing most of the build myself, but the rendering is close to my vision and keeps me motivated! Ron

[Hardluck13]

Any updates? Badass project

[redfire69]

Any updates? Badass project

Thanks! I should have some updates soon.

[Operations]

Love your build

[redfire69]

Finally did some work on the right side quarter opening.

https://sites.google.com/site/redfire1969/index-htm/quarter032sm.jpg

https://sites.google.com/site/redfire1969/index-htm/quarter009sm.jpg

https://sites.google.com/site/redfire1969/index-htm/quarter010sm.jpg

[redfire69]

More pics, Chip Foose makes this stuff look easy. Not! LoL. :welder:

https://sites.google.com/site/redfire1969/index-htm/quarter001sm.jpg

https://sites.google.com/site/redfire1969/index-htm/quarter025sm.jpg

https://sites.google.com/site/redfire1969/index-htm/quarter038sm.jpg

https://sites.google.com/site/redfire1969/index-htm/quarter033sm.jpg

[streetbird]

I was not sure on the quarter opening but it turned out very nice

[syborg tt]

Ron, I love this project. I just wish I had to time to tackle what you have done in your garage. Between work, kids & mountain bike I have no free time left.

When I grow up or when my kids grow up and move out (yes I will be very sad when that happens). I am hoping to have the drive to do what your doing in your garage.

[waynieZ]

It looks great Ron. Nice work.

[redfire69]

I was not sure on the quarter opening but it turned out very nice

Thanks Streetbird!

[redfire69]

Ron, I love this project. I just wish I had to time to tackle what you have done in your garage. Between work, kids & mountain bike I have no free time left.

When I grow up or when my kids grow up and move out (yes I will be very sad when that happens). I am hoping to have the drive to do what your doing in your garage.

Thanks Marty! I know how that is to juggle work, kids, and life in general. What I thought would be a two year project is currently in year five, LoL!

[redfire69]

It looks great Ron. Nice work.

Thanks Wayne, appreciate that! :cheers:

[DOOM]

Nice update Ron I missed ya! Lookin awesome!! :cheers:

[LS7 Z/28]

Great project, love the rendering.

[InMotionJosh]

This is amazing, so jealous of all the Anvil parts. Im going to probably be using a bunch of their parts. I have a few questions for you though, maybe you could answer with pictures even at your convenience.

I love that lower front valance. I guess it eliminates the factory front bumper? Can you post a picture of how it finishes off at the grille? Can you see between the gap to whats behind?

Whats the lead time on Anvil stuff, most of it is on back order on their site.

[redfire69]

This is amazing, so jealous of all the Anvil parts. Im going to probably be using a bunch of their parts. I have a few questions for you though, maybe you could answer with pictures even at your convenience.

I love that lower front valance. I guess it eliminates the factory front bumper? Can you post a picture of how it finishes off at the grille? Can you see between the gap to whats behind?

Whats the lead time on Anvil stuff, most of it is on back order on their site.

No problem. The valance does replace the front bumper. It fits much tighter to the grille that the factory bumper so you don't see much of a gap between the valance and the grille. The grille must be installed first and may need a lower support fabbed for stability. I would call Anvil directly on lead time since they usually produce the parts in batches. Ron

https://sites.google.com/site/redfirecamaro/fender4.jpg

https://sites.google.com/site/redfirecamaro/fender3.jpg

[InMotionJosh]

Looks so clean without a bumper. Definitely goi to get that piece. Probably go fiberglass on it though since I will be painting.

[redfire69]

So while the quarters are still under the knife, I've got a small update. I finished the surgery on the headlight buckets, mounts, and trim rings to house the Ring Brothers style lights and trim rings....

https://sites.google.com/site/redfirecamaro/044sm.jpg

https://sites.google.com/site/redfirecamaro/045sm.jpg

https://sites.google.com/site/redfirecamaro/047sm.jpg

[DOOM]

Ron those are bad azz!!!💸💸💸💸

[waynieZ]

I agree! SWEET!

[Sheck44]

Sick !!! ... :king:

[Frankenstine]

Wow the C Fiber looks great:thumbsup: and the Harley Lights great Touch:king:

Keith

[Stovebolter]

Sweet car. I'm taking notes on the side vents. I've been thinking along the same line but without the CF. Looks great.

David

[redfire69]

Got to love dynamat extreme.

https://sites.google.com/site/redfire1969/index-htm/sept15-1sm.jpg

https://sites.google.com/site/redfire1969/index-htm/sept15-2sm.jpg

https://sites.google.com/site/redfire1969/index-htm/sept15-3sm.jpg

[redfire69]

I picked up a cheap resistance spot welder from Chicago Electric. Works great for the money.
https://sites.google.com/site/redfire1969/index-htm/sept15-5sm.jpg

[redfire69]

I've got the rear clip more about halfway completely welded. Fitting, refitting, and re-refitting the panels is really paying off now.

https://sites.google.com/site/redfire1969/index-htm/sept15-6sm.jpg

https://sites.google.com/site/redfire1969/index-htm/sept15-7sm.jpg

https://sites.google.com/site/redfire1969/index-htm/sept15-8sm.jpg

[redfire69]

A few more progress pics:

https://sites.google.com/site/redfire1969/index-htm/sept15-9sm.jpg

https://sites.google.com/site/redfire1969/index-htm/sept15-10sm.jpg

[syborg tt]

Ron great to see some progress on this car.

On a side note the HD headlight are nice and we have similar on Dads 57 and while the lights are okay at night they are not great. We found an LED Bulb solution for them and I plan to order the bulbs in the next couple days. I will keep you posted on the light quality after the install.

[Vince@Meanstreets]

great update Ron, nice work.

Did it have the spot weld tongs for the tail panel or did you have to buy them?

[redfire69]

Ron great to see some progress on this car.

On a side note the HD headlight are nice and we have similar on Dads 57 and while the lights are okay at night they are not great. We found an LED Bulb solution for them and I plan to order the bulbs in the next couple days. I will keep you posted on the light quality after the install.

Thanks, sounds good!

[redfire69]

great update Ron, nice work.

Did it have the spot weld tongs for the tail panel or did you have to buy them?

Thanks Vince! Edit: I thought one could get difference length and shaped tongs from Harbor Freight, but that's only for the more expensive Miller version. I cheated and did mig rosettes for the inner to outer tail panel joint from inside the trunk.

[redfire69]

More dynamat installed to the roof panel.

https://sites.google.com/site/redfire1969/index-htm/r094.JPG

https://sites.google.com/site/redfire1969/index-htm/r095.JPG

https://sites.google.com/site/redfire1969/index-htm/r096.JPG

[redfire69]

Got roof! :weld:

https://sites.google.com/site/redfire1969/index-htm/r060.JPG

https://sites.google.com/site/redfire1969/index-htm/r064.JPG

https://sites.google.com/site/redfire1969/index-htm/r065.JPG

https://sites.google.com/site/redfire1969/index-htm/r066.JPG

[waynieZ]

Sweet !

[tubbed69]

Ron your sheetmetal work is really looking nice,great work:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[redfire69]

Thanks guys! :cheers:

Sweet !


Ron your sheetmetal work is really looking nice,great work:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[redfire69]

Seat pans burned in!

https://sites.google.com/site/redfire1969/index-htm/nov15-1.jpg

https://sites.google.com/site/redfire1969/index-htm/nov15-2.jpg

https://sites.google.com/site/redfire1969/index-htm/nov15-3.jpg

https://sites.google.com/site/redfire1969/index-htm/nov15-4.jpg

[syborg tt]

Getting closer

[1transam]

Coming along quick!:gitrdun:

[redfire69]

Fitting rear bumper. I really like how close it mounts to the body for that flush look!

https://sites.google.com/site/redfire1969/index-htm/bumper1.jpg

https://sites.google.com/site/redfire1969/index-htm/bumper2.jpg

https://sites.google.com/site/redfire1969/index-htm/bumper3.jpg

[redfire69]

A couple more of the rear bumper...

https://sites.google.com/site/redfire1969/index-htm/bumper4.jpg

https://sites.google.com/site/redfire1969/index-htm/bumper5.jpg

[waynieZ]

Bumper fits nice! that carbon looks great on there.

[redfire69]

Hard to believe it's been 3 years since my last post. Making some progress feels great. I recently modded the frame spring pockets for the coil overs, then had it blasted and power coated. Then I installed the DSE speed kit, 600 steering box, and all new moog front end parts, along with CPP C5 style spindles.

https://sites.google.com/site/redfirecamaro/July19-01.jpg

https://sites.google.com/site/redfirecamaro/July19-02.jpg

[redfire69]

I also recently installed the raingear wiper system with 2 speed motor and delay. I have to say it seems like a high quality part, instructions were very good and install was straight forward.

https://sites.google.com/site/redfirecamaro/July19-03.jpg

https://sites.google.com/site/redfirecamaro/July19-04.jpg

https://sites.google.com/site/redfirecamaro/July19-05.jpg

https://sites.google.com/site/redfirecamaro/July19-06.jpg

[WSSix]

Glad you're back on it, Ron. Best of luck moving forward.

[redfire69]

Glad you're back on it, Ron. Best of luck moving forward.

Thanks Trey, appreciate it!

I just got the frame installed on the body. Also installed the firewall and cage nut covers, along with the booster/MC and heater bulkhead.

https://sites.google.com/site/redfirecamaro/Aug19-01.jpg

https://sites.google.com/site/redfirecamaro/Aug19-02.jpg

[redfire69]

More progress, assembled engine, BBC mild build 400HP/500TQ, should be very streetable...

https://sites.google.com/site/redfirecamaro/Aug19-03.jpg

[syborg tt]

Glad your back at it and it looks really nice.

[WSSix]

Oh, pretty! That's going to look great under the hood. Don't see too many BBC builds any more. You and Herb are trailblazers going that route.

[orangevert]

A couple more of the rear bumper...

https://sites.google.com/site/redfire1969/index-htm/bumper4.jpg

https://sites.google.com/site/redfire1969/index-htm/bumper5.jpg

Do they fit that nice, or did you have to massage them? They look great.
Thanks Kirk

[redfire69]

Hi Kirk,

I did have to massage the area at the quarter panel mount to flatten where the metal is raised at the bumper mounting hole. Basically, I sectioned the mount hump, flattened it, and re-drilled the hole. So putting the bumper on a finished car might mean modding the bumper instead. It is a really nice part.

Ron


Do they fit that nice, or did you have to massage them? They look great.
Thanks Kirk

[redfire69]

Fuel and brake lines run, console and shifter holes located, almost ready to stab engine!

https://sites.google.com/site/redfirecamaro/oct19-1.jpg

https://sites.google.com/site/redfirecamaro/oct19-2.jpg

[waynieZ]

Very Nice!

[67_camaroRS]

More progress, assembled engine, BBC mild build 400HP/500TQ, should be very streetable...

https://sites.google.com/site/redfirecamaro/Aug19-03.jpg

Wow, I like the choice of sticking to an old school brute big block chevy. What brake booster and MC are you running?

[Spiffav8]

Car is looking sweet! :captain:

[redfire69]

Wow, I like the choice of sticking to an old school brute big block chevy. What brake booster and MC are you running?

Thanks! I'm using the S10 master cylinder AC 18M974, tuff stuff booster 2229NC, rod kit 4750, and DSE booster bracket 050302.
This setup would be close to the old DSE kit. The hole in the firewall needs to clearanced in a oval shape for the M/C boot. Links below:

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B000C9E5IW/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
or
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/ado-18m974/overview/

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/tff-2229nc

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/tff-4750

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/dsr-050302/overview/

[redfire69]

So I'm back at it and I've got the dash cluster loaded with Dakota Digital gauges. I used a heater delete panel and mounted my VA heater controls which I think turned out pretty good. I got the idea for mounting the BIMs on ABS from Mark S.

https://sites.google.com/site/redfirecamaro/2021-3.jpg

https://sites.google.com/site/redfirecamaro/2021-1.jpg

https://sites.google.com/site/redfirecamaro/2021-2.jpg

https://sites.google.com/site/redfirecamaro/2021-4.jpg

[redfire69]

A couple pics of the dash wiring harness done, cluster installed with disconnects. Steering column, shifter, VA heater, and BIMs wired.

https://sites.google.com/site/redfirecamaro/2021-5.jpg

https://sites.google.com/site/redfirecamaro/2021-6.jpg

[WSSix]

Glad you're back on it! Good luck with it.

[redfire69]

I couldn't find an off the shelf package available with the brakes I wanted, so I built it myself. 3.50 31 splines, Moser housing and axles, Wilwood 4R 13 inch brakes with internal parking brake. Gotta love bolting together all new parts! :G-Dub:

https://sites.google.com/site/redfirecamaro/2021-7.jpg

https://sites.google.com/site/redfirecamaro/2021-8.jpg

https://sites.google.com/site/redfirecamaro/2021-9.jpg

https://sites.google.com/site/redfirecamaro/2021-10.jpg

https://sites.google.com/site/redfirecamaro/2021-11.jpg

[redfire69]

Front brakes installed: Wilwood 6R C6 - 14 inch rotors. Completely worth the 6 week wait!

https://sites.google.com/site/redfirecamaro/2021-12.jpg

https://sites.google.com/site/redfirecamaro/2021-13.jpg

[redfire69]

A member asked me about how the Anvil front valance fit and I realized I hadn't shared what I did here. Below are the pics showing how I modified a stock lower valance to support the grill behind the Anvil valance. I added tabs on each side that get sandwiched between the headlight support and front inner wheel well for strength. I also did cut off the lower valance support from the bottom of the hood latch support. The grill gets installed before the Anvil valance as the valance incorporates the front bumper.

https://sites.google.com/site/redfirecamaro/2021-14.jpg

https://sites.google.com/site/redfirecamaro/2021-15.jpg

https://sites.google.com/site/redfirecamaro/2021-16.jpg

https://sites.google.com/site/redfirecamaro/2021-17.jpg

[redfire69]

A couple more pics of the grill support and front valance:

https://sites.google.com/site/redfirecamaro/2021-18.jpg

https://sites.google.com/site/redfirecamaro/2021-19.jpg

https://sites.google.com/site/redfirecamaro/2021-20.jpg

https://sites.google.com/site/redfirecamaro/2021-21.jpg

[redfire69]

Got the brake lines and DSE leafs mounted and ready to go!

https://sites.google.com/site/redfirecamaro/2021-29.jpg

https://sites.google.com/site/redfirecamaro/2021-30.jpg

[redfire69]

Ridetech subframe connectors and rear end installed. Just need to drill the holes and install the reinforcing bolts in the sides of the front subframe.

https://sites.google.com/site/redfirecamaro/2021-22.jpg

https://sites.google.com/site/redfirecamaro/2021-26.jpg

https://sites.google.com/site/redfirecamaro/2021-27.jpg

https://sites.google.com/site/redfirecamaro/2021-28.jpg

[redfire69]

A couple more pics of the rear end.

https://sites.google.com/site/redfirecamaro/2021-31.jpg

https://sites.google.com/site/redfirecamaro/2021-32.jpg

[redfire69]

Did I mention I hate body work? Hate it. But it turned out pretty good with a few 3M products and a lot of patience!

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLUFmrURMsO9lJJINr_4ccO94Ot3UDsOs24IpjSWXJgGoJibt uJIVLJu1u8m8Li6_tpTx_gTtNRiu9_xqo6BvKPbK_B0b1boOVz HVHoBxjfM19XNEFUyKqMy7pBXwDbeF90_WTHp4_CFj5yN9iqZ6 BE=w600-h800-no?authuser=0

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[camcojb]

I'm right there with you lol. I've painted a few of my cars, and it's a LOT of work, and talent to get it straight and end up with a quality job. You're doing a great job!

[Spiffav8]

All that prep work is what makes the paint job though. Worth it!!

[WSSix]

Looks good! Will you be putting a mesh in the opening or some sort of screen/grill?

[redfire69]

Looks good! Will you be putting a mesh in the opening or some sort of screen/grill?

Hi Trey,

Yes, I've got the billet gilles and the mesh pretty much exactly the same as Razor below!

Thanks! Ron

https://lateral-g.net/temp/ringbros/Razor19.jpg

[redfire69]

Engine and transmission have a home! Glad I did this without the front clip installed!!

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AM-JKLVRruM3VNzKJBoCtnw5nw0AkOoclFEjK72uSneZYEMPZ_qTE GlHD_5Iyh7Q41gSEh2PLfCTOkfaZX91weMP04_OCjSAEUfTXfx 4UaDfwhaIfGPnAUigdpzYuYrIgsYSzdFTyO0ls5RbEI46aPHXB I0=w600-h800-no?authuser=0

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[Aschle]

I am not sure if you are aware, but if not, that coating on the Wilwood rotors need to be removed before driving. I didn't remove it on mine and all that junk imbedded into my pads after the first time hitting the brakes...

Just an FYI if you didn't know

Awesome build !!!

[jarhead]

Very cool!

[redfire69]

I am not sure if you are aware, but if not, that coating on the Wilwood rotors need to be removed before driving. I didn't remove it on mine and all that junk imbedded into my pads after the first time hitting the brakes...

Just an FYI if you didn't know

Awesome build !!!

Wow, thanks for the heads up Jason!

[camcojb]

Wilwood claims the coating is removed in the bedding process, and is normal.

[AB69Z]

Where did you source these from?

[redfire69]

Where did you source these from?

Got them from Ring Brothers years ago. Thanks! Ron

https://ringbrothers.com/gallery/razor/2447

[redfire69]

Progress on dressing engine accessory kit, etc. Blackheart headers did NOT fit out of the box as they advertise.


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[camcojb]

With big block headers you need to use the correct offset big block frame stands that the factory used, or the headers have problems with the steering box. I believe the stands moved the engine to the passenger side and slightly forward.

Engine looks great!

[redfire69]

With big block headers you need to use the correct offset big block frame stands that the factory used, or the headers have problems with the steering box. I believe the stands moved the engine to the passenger side and slightly forward.

Engine looks great!

Thanks, I did confirm I am using OER correct frame stands and cross member that move setup to passenger side, etc. (pass frame stand is 1 inch shorter, cross member has offset tab mount for trans, etc). My BBC is also standard height deck. I think the issue is Blackheart toutes this setup will work but all of their pictures are with the 1-7/8 primaries. These are 2 inch primaries but said to fit "out of the box" on 67-69 BBC Camaros (only) over at protouring dot com. I had heavy contact with PS box, medium contact with drop link on pass side, and light contact with mini-starter already clocked. I can't imagine they would ever fit with a stock starter. No idea why this setup would have so much contact on passenger side when made exactly for 67-69 Camaro BBC only. Part number for everyone is BH13182.

[camcojb]

The Hooker super comps I had didn't fit on my big block 69 Camaro, ending up with Lemons. Larger tubes (2.125") and cleared everything easily, as well as better ground clearance.

Unfortunately they're probably a wait right now, and definitely more money.

[68454RS]

Thanks, I did confirm I am using OER correct frame stands and cross member that move setup to passenger side, etc. (pass frame stand is 1 inch shorter, cross member has offset tab mount for trans, etc). My BBC is also standard height deck. I think the issue is Blackheart toutes this setup will work but all of their pictures are with the 1-7/8 primaries. These are 2 inch primaries but said to fit "out of the box" on 67-69 BBC Camaros (only) over at protouring dot com. I had heavy contact with PS box, medium contact with drop link on pass side, and light contact with mini-starter already clocked. I can't imagine they would ever fit with a stock starter. No idea why this setup would have so much contact on passenger side when made exactly for 67-69 Camaro BBC only. Part number for everyone is BH13182.

I stayed with the 1 7/8" BH13181's and fit great