Heather’s 67 Mustang Coupe to Fastback conversion project.

[CAMAROBOY69]

Here is a link to the page I made for her. http://adfabdesign.com/Site/67Mustang-677.html
I know its been a long time since I posted but I wanted to give everyone an update on Heathers 67 Mustang. As some of you might know it was in Popular Hot Rodding magazine a couple years ago in the hometown hot rodding section as a coupe. The plans were to fix it up, paint it and sell it so we could buy a 67 fastback.
Well plans have changed and we decided that instead of selling her very first car, we are going to keep it and build it into a budget build fastback. We have the Eleanor GT500 fiberglass trunklid and extensions that we will install after the top is welded on. We also have the top front Eleanor clip. Other plans are eventually disk brake conversion, 18” wheels, Shrifter conversion, recessed fuel cell, lower vents modified to cool rear brakes, HOK Sunset pearl orange with white stripes, white interior with racing seats, and more including a very unique exhaust idea.
Here are a few pics of our current progress. My website with her Mustang coupe pics will get a major makeover in preparation for the fastback conversion. While it seems like a step backward, it has actually been a major step forward toward in achieving our ultimate goal of owning a 67 Fastback Mustang. Thanks for reading.
Recent pics 5/28/08
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[TEDDYS CAMARO]

WELCOME BACK!! I MUST STOP BY AND CHECK OUT THE PRGRESS. LOOKING GOOD!:thumbsup: :unibrow:

[Jimmy Sean]

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[MODO Innovations]

Adam,
Glad to see that you are back posting. Looks like alot of fun.

[ProdigyCustoms]

Just a couple weeks ago i wondered what happened to Adam?

[CAMAROBOY69]

Thanks for the replies. I have still kinda been around. I got a job promotion about a year ago so I have been very busy with work and never go online to the car forums. I have to admit, I have saved a lot of money since I quit visiting these forums. :yes::lol:
We also spent most of the summer tearing her moms 73 mustang completely apart, redoing all the body work, and painting the car inside and out. Consumed most of last summer and we got burnt out.
I do still attend road track events with my 69 Camaro at least 1 or 2 times a year. We will be building her Mustang into a Pro-Touring / Lateral-G machine similar to how my 69 Camaro is built. Its nice hearing some familiar voices again.

[jonny51]

You just need to lay off the xbox and you would have some more time on your hands! :D

[zbugger]

Adam, that conversion looks pretty damn good. I'm glad to see the motivation is still there. I look forward to seeing any progress on this project.

[CAMAROBOY69]

I will try to keep everyone updated on the progress.

Here are a couple pics of how the coupe used to look. Hard to believe its the same car.
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[92camaro510]

Wow that is a nice project, i did not think this could be done. BUT i think the question I should be asking is how are you doing that. I would like to have a fastback for a coupe price. This seems like the way if done properly!! Keep us updated please!!

[Rybar]

Welcome back Adam, stick around this site. That is a killer idea to change a coupe to a fastback. :thumbsup:

[awr68]

Welcome back Adam!! Those pics are nice...but can we see some with her working on the car...we miss those!! :unibrow: :cheers:

[andrewmp6]

Looks good so far.To turn a coupe to a fastback your looking 4 grand plus in parts to do it and a lot of small things are not remade yet so gotta find them used.So 3-5 grand for a good coupe plus 4 grand for the parts or buy a real fastback for 8-10k and fix some rust.Only downside is if you sell it you won't get a fastback value out of it since the vin shows its a coupe.

[CAMAROBOY69]

Looks good so far.To turn a coupe to a fastback your looking 4 grand plus in parts to do it and a lot of small things are not remade yet so gotta find them used.So 3-5 grand for a good coupe plus 4 grand for the parts or buy a real fastback for 8-10k and fix some rust.Only downside is if you sell it you won't get a fastback value out of it since the vin shows its a coupe.
I dont ever buy cars that are finished. Whats the fun in buying a car thats already done. You dont have any heart or soul into a car if you do it that way. Plus how would I have been able to teach Heather how to weld and do bodywork on cars if I bought one already finished. Buying rusted cars and bringing them back to life is what I do.
To start with, we will be able to build this Fastback conversion way cheaper than most people can imagine especially since I will be doing everything myself.
We managed to pick up her 67 Coupe for only $700.00. Brought it home put a few electrical parts in like starter, distributor, plugs and wires. Instantly started and was drivable. We even drove it to the lake for a photo shoot for Popular Hot Rodding magazine. All the electrical in the entire car works perfect. Meaning heater, dome light, brake lights, turn signals. Everything works perfect. So thats another great start.
After that we welded 2 rear quarter panels on, floor, and so far a pass fender. That was also very cheap.
Now for the best part. We managed to pick up the fastback for the conversion for only $300.00. Incredible deal. We also got the top eleanor front clip for free. Along with picking up the fiberglass trunk lid and extensions for very cheap on e-bay. With all of that we only have a couple grand at most into this car. So for under what you said we would pay for a coupe we already have the entire fastback conversion, a running and fully drivable car, plus Eleanor parts.
Also we will NOT be selling either one of these cars. :thumbsup:

[andrewmp6]

You may have got all the sheet metal for 300 theres a lot of small interior parts for the back that are not remade yet.Im not sure if they make the rear glass or not.Good luck on the fiberglass i haven't seen a eleanor part that fit perfect yet.The reason i brought up selling it is most think you can just swap roofs and sell it for the fastback price it don't work that way.The last one i know of done here was a 66 the guy that did it said it was 3 grand after painting it and all the parts it took and his looked great.

[TonyL]

Good to hear from you Adam. I was just wondering what you were up to the other day. The mustang is looking fantastic! Have you made any other changes to the Camaro?

[CAMAROBOY69]

You may have got all the sheet metal for 300 theres a lot of small interior parts for the back that are not remade yet.Im not sure if they make the rear glass or not.Good luck on the fiberglass i haven't seen a eleanor part that fit perfect yet.The reason i brought up selling it is most think you can just swap roofs and sell it for the fastback price it don't work that way.The last one i know of done here was a 66 the guy that did it said it was 3 grand after painting it and all the parts it took and his looked great.
andrewmp6,
I am not concerned at all about the interior parts that I need. I can find all of those on e-bay or if they are metal parts I will make them myself. As long as the car is drivable thats all I care about. I am not concerned about little detail parts.
For the rear glass I can buy that local from just about any Mustang store and go pick it up to avoid shipping cost.
As for the Eleanor parts I will have no problem making them fit. I mean I just cut a car in half to make another car, along with putting the entire interior from a 2002 trans am into my 69 camaro. How hard can it be making a little fiberglass part fit? :lol: There is nothing I cant do when it comes to body work.
There is a huge difference between the price of a 66 Fastback compared to a 67 fastback Eleanor. So like I said if we ever decided to sell this we would have no problem making a profit. But we have no plans at all to ever sell either one of these cars.
TonyL,
No I havent really done anything else to my 69 Camaro since the Murcielago rear exhaust set up with the split bumpers and the frenched plate. That was 2 years ago and thats the last major update to the Camaro. Besides beating it up at road track events each year. I have another one of those events coming up saturday July 26th.
Thanks again to everyone for the replies.

[Steve68]

Hi Adam, was wondering what you guys are doing lately,

Mustang looks cool as hell, Congrats on the job promo,

Keep beating the 69, Later Steve

[CAMAROBOY69]

Thanks Steve and also Thanks Scott for moving my thread to the "Project Updates" forum.

[CAMAROBOY69]

Just a teaser pic of what we have so far. More pics coming monday.

I set up an appointment to get the front windshield installed into Heathers Mustang on Monday August the 11th. Thats next monday which is only a few days away. This means we have only this week to get the car all welded together so the windshield can be installed. I do my best work under pressure so I did this on purpose to help get us motivated again.
New pics will be coming monday 8/11/08 and the car should look a LOT different. :unibrow:

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[CAMAROBOY69]

Worked our butts off all week to get the car ready so we could have the windshield installed today. Still a lot to do but it went real well this week.
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[CAMAROBOY69]

I added a link in the first post that goes to a web site I made for her car a long time ago. I try to keep it updated. http://adfabdesign.com/Site/67Mustang-677.html

[CAMAROBOY69]

The fastback saw its very first car show last night. Its just a local car show with about 100 cars but the event itself was very exciting. While we were there Heathers mom showed up in her 73 mustang that we finished building for her this year. It was the first car show her mom ever put a car into in her entire life. The event was such a great experience. My mom even showed up after a few minutes. Both Heather and her mom had a great time showing of their cars and Heathers 67 Mustang got a LOT of positive attention. It truly was a rewarding experience after all the hard work Heather and I have put into both Mustangs. I couldnt stop smiling seeing the cars side by side like that. Some time I would love to have my 69 Camaro down there with both Mustangs.

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[Vince@Meanstreets]

awesome work adam.


vince

[CAMAROBOY69]

Finally 2 1/2 months later the seats arrive. The worst customer service I have delt with in my entire life. The packaging was also horrible. The boxes were crushed and several of the edges were ripped open. This usually isnt a problem but it was so poorly packaged they just set the bolts in the cardboard box and some of the bolts and necessary hardward fell out of the holes. Then if that wasnt enough, they said they would send a set of 5 point racing seatbelts for free because of the wait. Well those also were not delivered. Do not ever buy from shophyperformance.com
The seats look pretty good and feel comfortable. I will install them next year.
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[Raul B]

looks really good... any new updates?

[CAMAROBOY69]

looks really good... any new updates?
T/Y. When it comes to vehicle progress we are dormant in the winter. It should start warming up within the next month and we will be back at it.
The first major change this year will be a carbed 302 V8 swap in place of the weak 200 straight 6. Also want to do a front disk swap for sure before even thinking of taking this out to the local road track events. I would also like to start throwing some paint on it here and there. :yes:
This is my favorite current pic.

[Raul B]

T/Y. When it comes to vehicle progress we are dormant in the winter. It should start warming up within the next month and we will be back at it.
The first major change this year will be a carbed 302 V8 swap in place of the weak 200 straight 6. Also want to do a front disk swap for sure before even thinking of taking this out to the local road track events. I would also like to start throwing some paint on it here and there. :yes:
This is my favorite current pic.

thats a great pic.... i actually owned a 67 fastback when i was in highschool but my parents found out i was drag racing and made me sell it :(

i just recently acquired a 67 coupe and was searching the web on fast back conversion and i saw this site come up... it has def given me some ideas on how to get this done.. i just need to find a donor car to take the roof...

-Raul

[CAMAROBOY69]

thats a great pic.... i actually owned a 67 fastback when i was in highschool but my parents found out i was drag racing and made me sell it :(

i just recently acquired a 67 coupe and was searching the web on fast back conversion and i saw this site come up... it has def given me some ideas on how to get this done.. i just need to find a donor car to take the roof...

-Raul
The conversion is actually very easy. I did the A pillars the hard way and it was a huge learning lesson. If I had to do this conversion again I could easily do the entire conversion within a day. Its just hard to find a decent doner fastback to take the parts from. I do it all in a regular garage with only a 110 welder. So anyone that has a full shop could do this with no problem at all.
I can easily see myself doing this on another coupe. The entire experience was very fun and I would love to do it again. :D

[ZMAN1969]

Ive been wondering why Dynacorn or Goodmark sell a kit to do this because there are ALOT of coupes still rolling around out there - ballsy job to jump into - keep up the good work!

[CAMAROBOY69]

I just bought the front 17"x8" Vantage V45 wheels her Mustang. :)
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[CAMAROBOY69]

And the new heart transplant begins............$250.00 302 V8 we will be swapping in place of her 200 I6. Once we get it mocked up into the car, we can start buying a new intake, valve covers and other goodies to make it run and look better.
Block numbers indicate it is around a 1974 engine. I still need to look up the head identification to verify what year and what vehicle it came out of.
Also a good thing we put this on the engine stand and put it in the garage because sunday morning we had 2 inches of snow.
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[CAMAROBOY69]

The wheels came in and are exactly as pictured a couple posts back. They look awesome and I cant wait to get them on the car.

As for the front brakes I am going with the Ultrastang kit UNLESS someone knows a cheaper complete kit like this. http://www.ultrastang.com/Page.asp?PageID=3
I talked to Steve last night (great guy) with the brake booster and everything in the pics it is $724.00 shipped to my house. Thats about the best deal out there that I can find.

I am also just going to put a used 2 barrel carb on the 302 to get everything mocked up and running.

Steve suggested that I just get an 8" rear for her car instead of messing with trying the 5 lug conversion

[CAMAROBOY69]

Just bought all this for her Mustang.
Full front disk 5 lug conversion including brake booster which is not in the picture.
http://www.ultrastang.com/ustang/images/swap_2_3_cropped.jpg

[CAMAROBOY69]

Pulled her old straight 6 200 engine out over the weekend to make room for the 302 V8. Next I will mock up the 302 with the transmission. Then I can lower the front and get the front disk brakes, spindles, calipers, and front 17" wheels bolted up. I also plan to replace and repair the front frame pieces while I am mocking everything up.

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[CAMAROBOY69]

I realize its been a while since I updated. Had a couple year delay due to slipping a disk in my back, then I had surgery for vertigo issues, and then I got married! Soooo now we are back getting motivated on the Fastback again.

I still have the 302 and just bought a C4 tranny, torque convertor, and flywheel for it. So now we just need to get this engine and tranny combo mocked up into the car and at least get this car started again.

I also wanted to finally announce my plans for the Exhaust for this car. It will be from a Saleen S281.

Here is the Saleen S281 exhaust set I bought for our 67 Fastback Mustang. This exhaust system is not easy to find at all.
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This is what the rear of a Saleen S281 looks like.
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Here is the front 11" slotted disk brake conversion kit I purchased a couple years ago.
http://www.thegtsaga.net/GT/files/posted_images/26/disk_brakes.jpg

C4 Transmission, Flywheel, and Torque converter $125.00
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[Chad-1stGen]

Good to see you posting again Adam,

I remember reading a lot of your illusion progress 5 years ago around when I bought my car. Really enjoyed reading about what you did. I totally dig that you dive right into projects with an I can do anything attitude. Good luck with the slipped disc. I can relate!

Now don't make us wait another two years!!

[CAMAROBOY69]

Thanks Chad.
We also need a 5 lug rear end for her Mustang. So if you know of anyone that has one, please let me know. I really dont want to use any spacer 4 lug to 5 lug conversion. I was thinking it would probably just be best to get a 5 lug rear end. If you have any other ideas like maybe just swapping out axle shafts or something let me know.

I will try to keep updating more often.

[Vince@Meanstreets]

welcome back adam, sory to hear about your back issues...
as for the axles just order a set of narrowed Mosers when you mini tub the car. :yes:

[CAMAROBOY69]

Thanks Vince.
After this post yesterday, I decided to start looking for a rear end that has 5 lug instead of 4 lug. So for the heck of it at lunch time, I e-mailed the guy that I bought the C4 tranny from and asked if he knew anyone that had a 5 lug rear end. Come to find out that HE actually has one from his 68 Mustang. lol It has new drums and shoes and I will be picking it up after work today for only $175.00! Very excited! WOW sometimes things happen faster then I expect. :yes:

Now I need to decide on the tire size for the 17" wheels. The stance on the 67 Mustang will be very similar to the stance my 69 Camaro has. So after viewing some of the other members Mustangs on this site I think I might go with:

235 40 17 IN FRONT.
275 40 17 IN REAR.

I started checking Craigslist yesterday for some used tires for the mockup. I really just want to at least get this car started again and rolling to make sure the engine and tranny work.

[65 347]

A cheap axle swap that is easy to find for 67-68 mustangs is a ford explorer rear. It's the best deal, many came with 3:73 and limited slip, and early ones came with drum brakes others came with factory rear disc. The width is perfect no cutting, you will have to move the axle perchs.
Mike

[CAMAROBOY69]

Thanks for the reply. I found out yesterday that the guy I bought the C4 from, also has a rear end out of a 68 Mustang. So that should be a direct bolt in. I am actually leaving to pick it up in about an hour. :thumbsup: I will post pics in a few days. :thumbsup:

How does this sound for a tire setup? I shouldnt have too many rubbing issues with these sizes.

235 40 17 IN FRONT.
275 40 17 IN REAR.

[WSSix]

Welcome back Adam. Sorry to hear about the back issues but it sounds like every thing is headed in a positive direction over all. Can't help with the parts you need but I do like the exhaust you plan on using for the car. Good luck!

[CAMAROBOY69]

T/y
Looks like this 68 rear end will be a direct bolt in. Even the driveshaft fits perfect. But I wont be bolting this into the car until later after we get the car rolling or if the 14" wheels and tires sell.

Sheesh I didnt realize how wide the rear tires were on my 69 Camaro until this pic.
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[CAMAROBOY69]

Some interresting results after dropping the engine down last night off the engine stand.

74 Flywheel 14"
74 Torque converter holes 11.5"

68 Flywheel 13"
68 Torque converter holes 10.5"


Soooo the 74 flywheel on the engine will have to be removed. I am going to try the 68 Flywheel and torque converter on Thursday to see if that will bolt up. It that works I will have to try a 68 Starter and hope that will work.

Some more information I found out is that the 67 Tranny I unbolted from the straight 6 would have worked IF I bought a different bell housing. Cant believe how much these 2 trans look alike considering one trans was on a straight 6 and the other was on a 289. Sure seems like they are both C4 trans to me.

This number is on the front of both of them.
RF-C4-AR TA105-A

Now for pics.

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[65 347]

Check out this link for wheel and tire fitment for early stangs
You would be surprised what you can fit on a 67/68
Mike



http://www.dodgestang.com/Tire%20Fitment%20Guide%2065-6.pdf

[CAMAROBOY69]

Check out this link for wheel and tire fitment for early stangs
You would be surprised what you can fit on a 67/68
Mike



http://www.dodgestang.com/Tire%20Fitment%20Guide%2065-6.pdf
Thank you that is VERY helpful! For the front 2 tires I will try to find a used set of (2) 235 40 17 since the front wheels are 8 inches wide. :thumbsup:

[Steve68]

Hey Adam, welcome back, sorry to hear about the back, nice to see you workin on the cars again, congrats on the wedding, Just did the same thing in April,

[CAMAROBOY69]

Thanks Steve. My back was the easy part. Its the Vertigo problem that requred surgery and has been a constant issue.

Spent about 4 hours in the garage trying to piece this together with all the different bell housing, flywheel, and tranny combinations. After several mock ups, I finally got the flywheel, bell housing and starter to work. But it required quite a bit of modification to the spacer bracket that is between the block and the flywheel. I ended up drilling some new holes in the spacer bracket and re-located the starter hole by about half an inch. Thats what the cardboard starter template was for. After doing all of that it worked!!! The starter bolted up in the proper location next to the flywheel and the bell housing bolted on and cleared everything. In fact I used a jumper box to actually turn the engine over last night!!! :)

So now that the everything bolts up and engine turns over, I just need to get the broken bolt out of the back of the block and get a few more tranny bolts. Then I can put the engine and tranny into the car. I also bolted up the Polyeurethane tranny mount right before I went in for the night. Very productive and exciting night. :)


68 Flywheel bolted onto 74 engine but the 68 starter is about an inch from the flywheel because of the 74 spacer plate.
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Time to modify the spacer plate so the starter fits closer to the 68 starter.
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Starter bolted up after spacer plate is modified. Had to relocate the starter hold and had to drill out several other holes so the bell housing would bolt up to the back of the engine and still have the starter bolt up. Perfect fit!!!!
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[CAMAROBOY69]

I can only post 14 images so here are the rest.
Spacer plate and toque converter installed. I will reinstall the starter again after the engine and trans are in the car.
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Installed poly tranny mount. Will tighten after the install.
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Tranny ready to be bolted up after broken bolt is removed from block.
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Broken bolt still in block.
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[Chad-1stGen]

Progress always feels good.

You gonna clean that thing up before you install?

[CAMAROBOY69]

The plan right now is to drop the engine/trans into the Mustang next Saturday the 27th mainly as a mockup and to make sure they work. I would hate to clean this up and find out it doesnt run. If it runs and the tranny works then hopefully we will get to drive it a few times before winter hits. Once winter comes I will pull the engine and trans again. Then by next spring I will clean them up, swap in headers, probably convert the engine to 4 barrel, and throw on some paint. I am just so happy I got the 68 bell housing, 68 starter, 68 flywheel, and 68 tranny to work on this 74 engine and 74 spacer plate. It wasnt a direct bolt in, but with some modification and re-engineering, it works now. :unibrow:

However I am thinking about at least pulling the manifolds off to replace all the rusty bolts. But I know almost all the bolts are going to snap so I might just leave it for now.

[Rybar]

Welcome back Adam, was wondering what the hell happened to you. :cheers:

[CAMAROBOY69]

Its good to be back and feels great getting some dirt under my nails again. Oh yeah I think I am still hosting a couple of your videos on my site.

Yup I sure do. Ryans car (Rybar).
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I still love the color of your car.

[CAMAROBOY69]

Had to remove the spacer plate last night from behind the flywheel because the torque convertor bolts were hitting it. But now everything is together. The next step is to remove the broken studs from the bottom of the manifolds and get a couple more tranny bolts. I also need to bolt on the crossmember. After that it should be ready to put into the Mustang this Saturday the 27th. :)

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[CAMAROBOY69]

Engine and transmission are ready to be installed and I am still on track to have all of this installed tomorrow the 27th. :)

1. All the tranny bolts to engine are in
2. Crossmember is on the trans with new poly tranny mount
3. Exhaust manifold lower bolts are removed. We used a torche and unscrewed the broken bolts.
4. Intake plate for lifting the engine and tranny is installed.
5. Oil dipstick tube is bolted on. Hopefully that wont be in the way. Might have to remove it.
6. I might install the starter before I put the eng/trans into the car.

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[CAMAROBOY69]

Dropped the engine and tranny into the car on Saturday but it looks like the center link, crossmember, and the power steering power cylinder are all in the way. The 74 oil pan has the drop down in the back of the engine. The stock 67 has it in the front of the engine to clear the steering components and crossmember.

So at this point I have to get a different oil pan, oil pump pickup, and dipstick tube.

Also as you can see from the tire pic, the car still needs to come down at least 5 inches in the front. This tire pic is WITH the engine and trans setting in the car.

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[CAMAROBOY69]

68 chrome oil pan, chrome oil pan bolts, oil pan gaskets, 68 oil pump pickup, and 68 motor mounts. The lower part of the oil pan actualy faces the front of the engine for the 67-68 Mustangs. If the engine starts Saturday I will pull it back out. Then I will clean up the engine, paint it, and hopefully I can get all of this back into the car before the end of the holiday weekend.

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[CAMAROBOY69]

ITS ALIVE AND RUNNING!!!

Made some MASSIVE progress over the holiday. After replacing the distribitor with a points style distributor it fired right up! Not only did it fire right up, it didnt knock, didnt smoke or anything. It started and idled perfectly! Simply amazing for a junkyard engine that hasnt run for at least 2-3 years. By far the most exciting moment for this car in a long time.

So after that great news, we pulled the engine and tranny back out of the car. Then Heather cleaned up the engine compartment and painted it flat black. While Heather was cleaning and painting the engine compartment, I degreased the engine and power washed it. After that I painted everything on the engine silver just to clean it up.

After that we put the new oil pickup on the engine, the new oil pan, new oil dipstick tube, and new motor mounts. Then we dropped it all back into the car and bolted up the tranny crossmember. Direct bolt in and the driveshaft will be a direct bolt in too.

All we have left to do now is make some brackets that go from the Mustang to the new V8 motor mounts on the engine. Right now I have it sitting on a couple blocks of wood for the motor mount bracket mockup. I cant believe how far this car come over the weekend. Major progress!! :)

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[CAMAROBOY69]

Just purchased these last night for the 67 Fastback Mustang. The Momo Trek Alcantara wheel is usually $250.00 and we got it off Craigslist brand new for only $125.00. Had to drive for an hour to get it but well worth the drive. Really starting to love Craigslist. And our chrome shock tower brackets came in last night too. Our new chrome monte carlo bar and Momo steering wheel adapter brackets should hopefully be coming within the next few days. :)

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[CAMAROBOY69]

Some bad news and good news. Bad news is that they dont make adapters to fit a Momo Steering wheel onto a 67 Mustang. Good news is that I will make my own bracket using the Grant hub and the adapter that I received with the momo wheel. The other good news is that I made quite a bit more progress this weekend.

1. Motor mount brackets are bolted up to engine and frame
2. Chrome monte carlo bar installed with stainless steel bolts
3. Carburetor installed
4. Radiator installed
5. Cross member is all bolted up
6. Chrome strut tower brackets installed with stainless steel bolts
7. Strut tower support brace bolts replaced with stainless steel bolts
8. Distributor cap and rotor installed. Will replace with new cap and rotor soon.
9. Fan and pulleys installed
10. Starter wire bolted up
11. Cut brackets for momo wheel to steering column.

Tonight I will finish making the adapter to fit the MOMO steering wheel and get the Momo wheel onto the car. Next weekend I will be installing the Saleen exhaust!


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[Chad-1stGen]

So is Heather ready to drive this thing yet?

[CAMAROBOY69]

Heather has been ready. The proper question would be ....."Is the car ready for Heather to drive?" And the answer is no. The car is still has quite a ways to go before its "safely" drivable. We will probably only have enough time this year to get a couple shaker runs out of it before winter hits.


Last night I spent about an hour and welded together a bracket out of 1/8" steel that adapts from the MOMO steering wheel to the Grant 67 Mustang hub. The MOMO steering wheel is on!!! :D

More good news. I will be bringing the car to my friends shop this weekend and we will be running the Saleen S281 exhaust!! :D

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[CAMAROBOY69]

Bought a chrome Edelbrock air cleaner and oil breather cleaner for our 67 Fastback Mustang. Then started mocking up the Saleen S281 exhaust tips to get a rough idea of where I will be cutting the rear of the car. My friend is bringing over a trailer and we will be bringing the Mustang to his shop tomorrow. The plan is to run the entire Saleen S281 exhaust system this weekend using Flowmaster 40 series mufflers. I will still have to split the rear bumper and french in the license plate. Similar to the Murcielago exhaust setup on my 69 Camaro. :)

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[CAMAROBOY69]

My neighbor and I loaded up the Mustang and trailered it to his shop on Saturday. We spent 12 straight hours working on the long list of items for the car. Also worked on it a little yesterday.

This is what my neighbor and I accomplished over the weekend.
1. Removed the old gas tank which surprisingly leaves a massive hole in the trunk. The top of the gas tank is actually the trunk floor. lol
2. Plasma cut out the body at the rear of the car for the Saleen S281 Exhaust. This is only a rough cut and will be cleaned up later.
3. Installed the 40 series Flowmasters and Saleen S281 exhaust. True dual exhaust front to rear. We even welded shut the middle between the saleen S281 tips.
4. Removed the old rusty front frame pieces and welded in new ones. This took several hours and was a messy disaster. I love how solid the car is now with the frame pieces. Plus seeing the new floor board, the new exhaust, new mufflers, and the new frame pieces looks awesome under the car.
5. Welded the tranny crossmember support bracket to the floor for extra strength and stability.
6. Installed both transmission lines to the radiator.
7. Started working on running the power steering lines to the new power steering pump.
8. Repaired a bad spot in the rear driver frame. I plan to replace these rear frames eventually.
9. Removed the original shifter because it was very sloppy.
10. Removed all the unnecessary brackets and lines from under the car.
11. Welded and repaired a crack in the tranny crossmember.
12. Installed the driveshaft. Direct bolt in!
13. Repaired the distributor coil bracket and bolted the coil to the front of the engine instead of on top of the intake.
14. Shortened and re-arranged some of the wires on the engine for a cleaner look and for better organization.
15. Changed the oil and oil filter
16. Removed the front carpet so it wouldnt catch on fire while welding in the front frame pieces. haha
17. Installed a driveshaft loop between the exhaust pipes for safety plus it added a some more stability to the exhaust.
18. Installed a threaded rod for the new Edelbrock air cleaner

Still a lot to do before its drivable but we made some massive progress this weekend and the front frames were a huge step forward to make the car stronger. Yesterday we started the Mustang with the new Saleen S281 exhaust. Heather loves the way it sounds but its too quite for me. Once we get headers installed next year it will be louder which should make both of us happy.


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[Chad-1stGen]

Good progress. What size pipe is the Saleen exhause tips piece? Looks pretty small.

[CAMAROBOY69]

Thanks. I was very happy with the progress especially on Saturday. Installing the front frames wasnt even on the list but once I had the car up on the lift, I decided we should just go for it.

I think the Saleen tubing at the end is about 1 3/4". Yes its small. But since this is a bone stock 74 302 with only maybe 200hp I figure it will be fine for now. Next year when we install the headers I will decide if I want to increase the size of the rear Saleen tubing.

[CAMAROBOY69]

The Mustang is drivable!!! Kinda..

Made some excellent progress over the weekend. I was able to complete everything I wanted listed below. After all of this I was able to drive it forward and backward in the garage. It was raining so I couldnt drive it outside. I plan to at least drive it up and down the driveway whenever it quits raining. Hopefully tonight after work. :)

1. Built the top and bottom adapter hoses to go from the 6 cylinder radiator to the V8 engine. I used steel pipe for this. Temporary fix until I get a V8 radiator next year.
2. Installed the power steering lines using compression fittings and brake lines
3. Built the entire throttle assembly from gas pedal, to firewall, to carb.
4. Installed new fuel filter
5. Installed the shifter,shifter linkage, and speedometer cable.
6. Assembled the driver and passenger seat slider assemblies
7. Bolted in driver side seat and set it up so it was perfect for Heather.
8. Poured in 5 quarts of trannsmission fluid. Just enough to get it moving. Need to get a few more quarts tonight.

[CAMAROBOY69]

Took the Mustang for its first official drive in over 2 years!!!

FINALLY!! After all the hard work this summer we finally went for our first official drive on Saturday. The car is running very well. I attempted this on monday but was having some problems with the car stalling when I put it in gear and that was just frustrating. So I decided to give the car a break for the week just to get away from it. Well Saturday I went back at it again and found out I had a vacuum leak on the carb. So I replaced the line, added a return spring to the carb, fixed a few other things and the car is just running so well now.

Exhaust sounds great, car shifts great, runs great, steers very well with the new power steering setup, and just all around is doing very well. I also adjusted the front end a little because it was toed out quite a bit. Brakes still suck since its 4 wheel drums with no power brakes. But I already have an 11" slotted disk conversion set I plan to install next year. So other than the brakes being old and crappy, the Mustang is drivable!!! :D :D

[CAMAROBOY69]

I dont plan to do much else to the car this year with the cold weather coming and lack of money. But this is what I accomplished over the weekend.

-Welded in 8 custom seat brackets for driver and passenger seats. The seats set up nice and high. Ergonomically engineered for Heather.
-Welded in temporary crossbar for the 5 point seatbelt harness mockup.
-Installed front and rear carpet.
-Installed driver and passenger racing seats.
-Installed 5 point racing seat belt harness for driver seat. Still need a 5 point harness for passenger seat.
-Extended the plug wire for the neutral safety switch by 6 inches to add more clearance. 4 total wires, a plug, and 8 crimp adaptors.
-Removed passenger valve cover to check for light rocker noise. I think a push rod might be plugged or a lifter is plugged. I will resolve this next year when I install a new 4 barrel carb and intake. Then I can check all the lifters and push rods to make sure they are getting proper oil.
-Worked on the wiring for the Alternator. Its still not working yet so I need to take the alternator down to make sure it works.