Penny gets thrashed at the autocross... video

[Steve1968LS2]

Hey, I took Larry from PT.com for a ride in my car at the Good Guys event. We shot some video off the side of the car.

He put together a cool video compliation of the day.. enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoovtq-O--Q

[Lenie]

Excellent video, thanks Steve.:yes:

[Bulldog68]

Very cool. :thumbsup:

[J2SpeedandCustom]

That's awesome Steve!!!! :thumbsup:

[MODO Innovations]

Good clean fun. Thanks for posting.

[slck6t9]

WOW Steve that looked awesome. So what was the fastest time?

[Alex396ss]

Nice! :thumbsup:

Alex

[XcYZ]

Cool video, Steve. :cheers:

[MarkM66]

Very nice. :thumbsup:

Is there a list of times?

[TEDDYS CAMARO]

Very cool video!:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :bow: :willy: :lateral:

[darren@ridetech]

The guys are flying back in today. I'll see if I can get a list of times from them.

[wiedemab]

Great Vid. I'm jealous, it's freezing cold in Indiana still! Damn Midwest!

[Spiffav8]

Looks like a fun event. Kind of a short track though. I was surprised to see Liz in the #13 Camaro with a faster time than Rupp. :lol:

Dude you got beat by a girl! :rofl:

[Steve1968LS2]

Looks like a fun event. Kind of a short track though. I was surprised to see Liz in the #13 Camaro with a faster time than Rupp. :lol:

Dude you got beat by a girl! :rofl:

Liz's fastest time was 18.41 ... my fastest time was 18.31...

Take that sucka! Oh, and she was on sticky tires.. So, I win :woot:

But, she is most likely a better driver, she does it more while I'm sitting on my ass writing stories..

Low 17s were considered VERY good times for the musclecars.. Air Ride cars and the DSE Camaro were in that area. The CPP Nova (yellow one) and Penny were in the mid 17s.. The Air Ride guys were very helpful with ways I can tune my suspension.

Oh, the BFG tires I put on performed very well.. I was surprised how grippy they were.

Random shot of me wheeling the car:


http://picsorban.com/upload/penautox.jpg

[NvrDun71]

We need some info and pics on the Yellow CPP Nova

[Steve1968LS2]

We need some info and pics on the Yellow CPP Nova

It's owned by CPP.

There's a story on it in the new Nova Classics magazine (on newsstands).. Has a TCI front sub and rear system. Big Wilwood brakes, etc. Nice car and it handles well, they have been busy tuning the heck out of the suspension and are really getting it dialed in.

[James OLC]

Very cool Steve.:thumbsup: Nice to see you wailing on it.

Why the tire change?

[Steve1968LS2]

Very cool Steve.:thumbsup: Nice to see you wailing on it.

Why the tire change?

No R-compound tires allowed for the Editors Challenge, so BFG sent me over a sweet set of KDWs.. nice tires!

[dave96dcm]

Wow that is rediculiousley small. I guess I'm sopiled up here we run a 80 - 100 second auto-x and you reach 60 - 70 mph.

[Musclerodz]

Steve, did you have any push? Looked like it in a couple shots. I am amazed at how flat the Air Ride cars were going through the course. Thanks for posting.

Mike

[Steve1968LS2]

Steve, did you have any push? Looked like it in a couple shots. I am amazed at how flat the Air Ride cars were going through the course. Thanks for posting.

Mike

Yea, some push. Mostly because my front tires are too narrow (compared to the rears). But the suspension was very compliant and it let the rears force the front through the turn.

My rims will soon be 18x10 and I have some 275s to put on.. maybe 285s.. That should help.

I also need to tweak my spring rates and bar. She will get there, even at this stage Penny is pretty competative. I hope to improve on her over the summer.

[brownz]

man i had fun watching that video thanks Steve:thumbsup:

[skatinjay27]

sweet vid steve!!!!!
it does look like you need to stiffen up the front springs though...it looked good through the corners but it woulnt hurt to be a bit more level.

[Steve1968LS2]

sweet vid steve!!!!!
it does look likr you need to stiffen up the front spring though...it looked good through the corners but it woulnt hurt to be a bit more level.

I agree.. 450s in there now.. thinking 525.

On Sunday the Air Ride guys upped the comp and rebound which make the car much better. Even with the body leaned over the tires stayed on the pavement, I'm sure most of that reason is the no-bind deal with the three link.

More front tire will help also.

[final cut]

Steve, great video! Thanks for throwing in a few pics of the Fairlane. I was going to introduce myself , but you were pretty busy , your car looks real good on the track.

[lowboy]

Would raising the watts link up one notch help w/body roll? What about a rear swaybar? I have the LD 3-link on my 69 Camaro as well (not running yet) and I'm debating on installing a rear bar. I shot Mark an email awhile ago inquiring about a rear bar for his set up and haven't gotten a response yet. Do you know if there is a rear bar assembly that will work w/3-link?

Thanks..

[cmraman]

Spell check Steve. Shouldn't the title read Goodguys, not GoogGuys?:D

[skatinjay27]

I agree.. 450s in there now.. thinking 525.

On Sunday the Air Ride guys upped the comp and rebound which make the car much better. Even with the body leaned over the tires stayed on the pavement, I'm sure most of that reason is the no-bind deal with the three link.

More front tire will help also.do you have a adjustable splined type front sway bar? so you could bmake the bar rate harder? cause i seen car perform great with the whole soft spring/big bar set-up.

didnt you go down in spring rate after the accident?
im installing 700# in my car right now... but then again ive got a iron block sbc...

[mazspeed]

Nice cars out there and great job Steve. I wish I could have gone. That is a lame autocross track though. I take it, it was not a N.A.S.A or a S.C.C.A track? More of a weekend proving ground? Still cool to see all those muscle cars on the track. Come up on the 3rd weekend of May to the Duel at DeAnza.

[Steve68]

So it's becoming true the 18x12 are too big for the rears, smaller rims here I come,

[Brigzee]

That is what it is all about. Great video and pics.

[bill amsley]

super cool looks like a blast

[Steve1968LS2]

So it's becoming true the 18x12 are too big for the rears, smaller rims here I come,


It's always been true.. and they are not TOO big.. the front 255s are too small. Oh, and we are building cool street cars.. not race cars :)

Lots of fast cars running 335/275 though.. It also has a lot to do with chassis set-up.

[parsonsj]

Nicely done Steve! Congrats on the event!

do you have a adjustable splined type front sway bar? so you could bmake the bar rate harder? cause i seen car perform great with the whole soft spring/big bar set-up.For a car that pushes, you want a softer front bar, or a stiffer rear bar. And Steve's right: not enough front tire. It's always the limiting factor on our cars.

jp

[Steve68]

I'm done changing my car, for now I'm staying with the stock front sub, I'm more into finishing the car than tearing it apart for a change,

I'm limited to a 18x8.5 with a 245 or a 255,

[dave96dcm]

A rear bar would make a huge difference for the better on that car.

[Rybar]

Nice vid Steve, looks like you had fun driving the car. :thumbsup:

[Stuart Adams]

Steve drove it hard. I'm sure with time and a little tweaking it will be better. Very nice car and sounds great also. :thumbsup:

[Stuart Adams]

Nice cars out there and great job Steve. I wish I could have gone. That is a lame autocross track though. I take it, it was not a N.A.S.A or a S.C.C.A track? More of a weekend proving ground? Still cool to see all those muscle cars on the track. Come up on the 3rd weekend of May to the Duel at DeAnza.

Air ride ran it well. It was popular with fans. There are a million more safety issues with higher speeds and the fans would not be as close to the action. After all it is a car show by nature, not a race. Sure added to the show. The whole track was easily visible by the spectators, which made it fun. I'm sure the vendors in the PT arena are loving($) it. Good time to be selling parts and services, IMO.

[Steve1968LS2]

Air ride ran it well. It was popular with fans. There are a million more safety issues with higher speeds and the fans would not be as close to the action. After all it is a car show by nature, not a race. Sure added to the show. The whole track was easily visible by the spectators, which made it fun. I'm sure the vendors in the PT arena are loving($) it. Good time to be selling parts and services, IMO.

Yep... this was a car show, not a track day. HUNDREDS of spectators got a taste of the action and because of the design we were able to give rides to those people in attendance.

I can't tell you how many cute girls hopped into Penny for a lap or two. This was GREAT for our hobby since a bunch of people at a "car show" got exposed to cool cars getting used instead of parked in a static display.

Also, because of the track helmets weren't required which meant that anyone could take thier car around the track and again, it made it possible to take riders.

A S.C.C.A guy was there teching the cars and I'm sure he helped lay out the track. It was a blast to drive and sure beat standing around all day with a polish rag.

[Streetking]

Cool video Steve.:thumbsup:

SW

[mazspeed]

Air ride ran it well. It was popular with fans. There are a million more safety issues with higher speeds and the fans would not be as close to the action. After all it is a car show by nature, not a race. Sure added to the show. The whole track was easily visible by the spectators, which made it fun. I'm sure the vendors in the PT arena are loving($) it. Good time to be selling parts and services, IMO.

I had no idea that it was a car show. Well that's cool that a car show had some kind of track. They sure don't do that around here. :(

[Steve1968LS2]

I had no idea that it was a car show. Well that's cool that a car show had some kind of track. They sure don't do that around here. :(


Yea, it's a sort of "add on" to 9 of the Good Guys events.. :)

Here's a better version of the opening video..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrx-wCmR3kg

[Steve1968LS2]

Picture taken by a friend.. thanks Gregg! Now I can't say I didn't hit any cones.. even though it was after the timing light.. I might of been coming in a bit "hot".. lol

http://picsorban.com/upload/img_1810.jpg

[awr68]

That a boy...OWN that track!! :unibrow:

[mazspeed]

Yea, it's a sort of "add on" to 9 of the Good Guys events.. :)

Here's a better version of the opening video..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrx-wCmR3kg

That's cool that they do that now. So when are you coming up? :unibrow:

[lowboy]

hey Steve1968ls2, any answers to my questions a few pages back regarding raising bellcrank on the watts or rear bar availability to minimize body roll?

[Steve1968LS2]

hey Steve1968ls2, any answers to my questions a few pages back regarding raising bellcrank on the watts or rear bar availability to minimize body roll?

Not yet, I'm certainly not a Watt's expert. But, raising the bellcrank should change the CG and help limit body roll. To what degree I'm not sure.

Some thought my front was too soft and it rolling over was forcing the back over. Still, even with the body roll the tires stayed on the pavement, thus my good times.

That's cool that they do that now. So when are you coming up? :unibrow:

Swampped this month.. but soon :D

[awr68]

Steve didn't you go to a 450# front spring? That's 100# lighter than what I have, and was recommended to start with...your thoughts? Course I have an iron block and stock SF....

[Steve1968LS2]

Another video of random car show and autocross stuff from the event.. gotta love YouTube.. :)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=HuOEyfYli6Q

[jb@ridetech]

Street Challenge Autocross


The Costa Mesa GoodGuys Event has kicked off the 2008 season in a big way. We had a great time and from the reaction from people in attendance and on the web, the Street Challenge Autocross events are going to grow significantly this year.

We’ve posted the time sheets from the Street Challenge Autocross below
Don’t forget there are 11 more events on the Air Ride Technologies’ event schedule that feature an autocross.

Results from GoodGuys Costa Mesa Street Challenge Autocross
Featuring the "Editor’s Challenge"
March 15-16, 2008

‘Street Machine’
John Marconi Ford Lotus 16.471
Mike Hodges 2004 Corvette 16.641
Ron Jones 2006 Ford GT 17.671
Carl Guntder 2005 Mustang 18.384
Victor Rodriguez Mustang GT500 18.482
Todd Varble 1962 Chevy Belair 18.947
John Parkinson Camaro 19.007
Mark Cochran 1966 Impala 19.302
Doug Schultz 66 Fairlane 19.817
Kevin Harris 1969 Camaro 19.949
Don Lofstrom 1965 Ford Mustang 20.015
Rob Calder 05 Chevy Truck 20.253
Frank Temblador 1969 Chevelle 20.308
Tony Colombini 1956 Ford Fairlane 20.760
Peter Reniger 1991 Ford Mustang 20.833
Tom West 68 Chevelle 20.923
Norm Roberts 68 VW 21.306
Dennis Black 71 Chevelle 21.706
Scott Wreggett 1965 Impala 21.823
Fred Arion 1969 Camaro 21.843
Clark Patterson 64 Merc 21.893
Larry Mick 64 Olds Cutlass 21.895
Tim/Doug Vanbeek 1970 AMX Gremlin 23.011



‘Street Rod’
Aaron Vukasovich 1941 International 18.478
Gerry Reynolds 1929 Ford Pick Up 20.823
Ken Butter 1936 Ford Pick Up 22.751
Jon Butter 1936 Ford Pick Up 22.832



‘Vendor Challenge’
Brad Coomer Air Ride Technologies 17.144
Brad Coomer Air Ride Technologies 17.246
Britt Marolf Air Ride Technologies 17.296
N/A Classic Performance Products Nova 17.412
Britt Marolf Air Ride Technologies 17.589
Bret Voelkel Air Ride Technologies 17.658
Stacey Tucker Detroit Speed Engineering / 1969 camaro 17.702
Stacey Tucker Detroit Speed Engineering / 1969 camaro 18.176
David Stoker Air Ride Technologies 70 Chevelle (GoodGuys Give-Away Car) 18.256
Liz Miles 1968 Camaro 18.359
Frank Zupan Jr. Zoops 18.577
Doug Glad Car Craft / Air Ride Technologies 70 Chevelle (GoodGuys Give-Away Car) 18.664
Rob McGreggor No Limit Engineering 19.974
Scott Sandavol Truck 21.947



‘Editor Challenge’
Nick Licata 1969 Camaro 17.658
Steve Rupp 1968 Camaro 18.335
David Glad 1970 Chevelle 18.664
John Barkley 1972 Camaro 18.685
David Stoker 18.769
Jeff Smith 1965 Chevelle 19.095
Mike Harrington 1988 Camaro 19.798
Tim Foss Chevy Pickup 20.461