need help with window glass install

[camcojb]

How do you guys install the glass into the bottom channel? The factory glass has a rubber piece molded to fit the bottom of the glass to hold the glass in position. Of course, those are now hard as a rock and cannot be removed without destroying them.

Are these available? The local resto shop says nobody makes them, they just use silicone. My thoughts are there's no way to hold the glass in there straight like the factory rubber piece does. Do you use silicone and maybe shim the glass in place until it sets up? Or do you know where to buy those pieces?

I measured the old stuff and it appeared to be 1/16" thick, so I bought a sheet of 1/16" neoprene. But no matter how hard I tap it with a rubber mallet, and every known slippery substance used, it will NOT go all the way down in the channel, comes up about 1/4" short of the factory glass. The new glass is actually a few thou thinner, so that isn't the issue, it appears to be not having the factory rubber pieces, not being able to find them, or not being smarter than I am!!!!!!!

Jody

[jack67rs]

Had the same problem, my local glass co gave me some material to use on my vent windows. it was about 1/16" thick and i doubled it up on the side window track. Has'nt worked out quite that well so I'll be interested also in what other people have done.

[Musclerodz]

Metro rubber has several glass setting u channels available. http://metrommp.com/metrocart/PartListByType.cfm?Type=U%2DChannels

or shim the glass and glue in place so you are not waiting.

[camcojb]

Metro rubber has several glass setting u channels available. http://metrommp.com/metrocart/PartListByType.cfm?Type=U%2DChannels

or shim the glass and glue in place so you are not waiting.


thanks Mike. The stuff that I need is different than any I see on that link. The glass is .238" thick, the channel is .350" wide. So the rubber has to be .056" thick or so, and about an inch deep on each side.

Jody

[Musclerodz]

What about using plain rubber sheet? Should be able to find locally.

[camcojb]

What about using plain rubber sheet? Should be able to find locally.


that's what I did. The closest I could get was 1/16" (.0625") and it needs to be about .056". Should be close enough to work, but it does not.

I just tried to remove the glass from the channel, and broke the new glass. So tomorrow I'll be calling some glass shops to get another passenger side window (factory tint) and I'll bring both to them and let them install them. It's always the stupidest things that hold you up.

Jody

[Rick D]

Jody,
We have a glass guy that is from back in the 60's and is still doing it today, he just put some new glass in an elky we did and he said that with new glass the stuff that GM and others doesn't work very well. He used windsheld urethane, put's it in the track than put's the window up but put's cardborad at the top to space it down. the only problem with this is that once you glue it this way, if the window brakes you will need new tracks. Hope this helps. By the way car looks awsome:thumbsup:

[J2SpeedandCustom]

Jody our glass guy here urethane's them in as well. Is the chevelle glass the same as the impala?

[camcojb]

well, I'm going to check the local glass guys and see if they have some rubber sheet or similar that's just a bit thinner. Hopefully as I don't want to urethane it if I can avoid it. The thin rubber sheet worked for 40+ years on this car!

Jody

[ProdigyCustoms]

Another vote for glueing them in. If they would have had urethane in 1964, they would have glued them in. Clean the channel real well (I am sure you did), load the channel with urethane, press the glass into the channel and duck tape the channel to the glass until it sets. Try to catch the urethane at 70% hard with a razor to clean up the excess. Done!

[camcojb]

Another vote for glueing them in. If they would have had urethane in 1964, they would have glued them in. Clean the channel real well (I am sure you did), load the channel with urethane, press the glass into the channel and duck tape the channel to the glass until it sets. Try to catch the urethane at 70% hard with a razor to clean up the excess. Done!


that's great, but there's over .100" difference in the channel width and the glass. It would be very difficult to keep the glass centered in the track, and at the correct angle. I guess I could shim it with some of my neoprene sheeting.

Got to find another passenger window now, broke the one you sent me Frank......... :faint:

[70 chevelle]

Are you talking about the track at the bottom of the glass? If so 3m makes something called window channel bond , VERY strong stuff, made specifically for this very reason. we use it all the time. If this is what you need shoot me a pm and when I get to work tommorow I will get you a part number. The only downside is it requires a special gun. Looks like a double barrel caulk gun only smaller. If I remember the gun was very reasonable.

[70 chevelle]

Here is a little info:
http://multimedia.3m.com/mws/mediawebserver?66666UuZjcFSLXTt4xTtlx&_EVuQEcuZgVs6EVs6E666666--

[Perry Mitchell]

If your rubber cannels are too hard to reuse there is a product that I have used on my '57 Nomad vent windows. You lube it with oil and wrap it around the glass. Press it into the channel. The oil makes the material swell and creates a tight fit. I got the stuff at my local auto glass dealer a while back. I recall it being available in different thicknesses.

[camcojb]

If your rubber cannels are too hard to reuse there is a product that I have used on my '57 Nomad vent windows. You lube it with oil and wrap it around the glass. Press it into the channel. The oil makes the material swell and creates a tight fit. I got the stuff at my local auto glass dealer a while back. I recall it being available in different thicknesses.

yeah, I believe that........ :lol: I tried three different times with different things to get it to slide all the way in; oil was the last try, and after sitting for a half hour or so I went to pry the glass back out like I'd done twice before, and it wouldn't budge. Ended up breaking the glass by prying too hard. :(

Jody

[waynieZ]

Hi I'm no glass expert but if the rubber you have will stretch maybe you can cut the strip you need,stretch it legnth wise hold it with some flat lip vice grips at the ends . Then lube the glass, then tap the track on and let the clamps go. Maybe it will give you enough room to fit the glass. Just a thought.
Wayne

[camcojb]

thanks for the info guys, it helps a lot.

Jody

[Payton King]

I glued mine in on my 69. There is plenty of adjustment on the window that you should not have a problem. Just make sure you have in correctly in the channel from front to back.

[rwhite692]

I did a set on a 65 many years ago, and "glued" them in with black 3M 5200, worked awesome.