1st Gen IRS kit

[Daz]

Looking for an IRS kit for my 67' Camaro RS/SS ? I know Wayne Due used to make them but has since closed his doors. If there is anyone who can help me or send me some dimensions of theirs so I could have it fabbed I'd appreciate it greatly :thumbsup: !

[kaptainkw]

I can possibly help. I have a '68 Convertible with an LS2/T56 and the C4 rear. As you know Wayne Due is no longer in business so I, too, worked hard with trying to come-up with a template. Thanks to this and other forums I was able to do so. There's some good people out there!!!

I've got enough steel to make two kits and I only need one. My problem is that I'm not a welder so I need to farm this out. Wayne charged ~$750 for his set-up. I think I can do it for far less than that but I don't know how much it will cost me to have it fabricated.

How quickly do you need it?

Jeff

[fesler]

where are you located, I might be able to help you with the fab?

I can possibly help. I have a '68 Convertible with an LS2/T56 and the C4 rear. As you know Wayne Due is no longer in business so I, too, worked hard with trying to come-up with a template. Thanks to this and other forums I was able to do so. There's some good people out there!!!

I've got enough steel to make two kits and I only need one. My problem is that I'm not a welder so I need to farm this out. Wayne charged ~$750 for his set-up. I think I can do it for far less than that but I don't know how much it will cost me to have it fabricated.

How quickly do you need it?

Jeff

[Daz]

Not too quickly money is an issue right now ! I only have $300 saved up right now but maybe in a couple of moths I could have about $500-600. If you could do it for around $400-450 or so that would be great I could just borrow soime cash from my dad(his procharged 6sp 1990 C4 is just about done).

I really appreciate your help. www.WilsonMuscleCars.com (check out this site) is doing a kit too but he's going to charge around $995 which isn't that bad for the quality and ease of the mounting of everything. Plus he's a really helpful and a cool guy too ! But if can get it cheaper then I'm all for it :thumbsup: .

[kaptainkw]

where are you located, I might be able to help you with the fab?

Thanks Chris:

I was just down in Phoenix this week... 80°F on Weds. was awesome!!! I live in WA State. Let me dive into this a little deeper to see what's involved and I'll keep your offer in mind. With Wayne out of the picture it would be nice for someone to offer these as I see a fair number of people still asking for them.

:cheers:

[kaptainkw]

Not too quickly money is an issue right now ! I only have $300 saved up right now but maybe in a couple of moths I could have about $500-600. If you could do it for around $400-450 or so that would be great I could just borrow soime cash from my dad(his procharged 6sp 1990 C4 is just about done).

I really appreciate your help. www.WilsonMuscleCars.com (check out this site) is doing a kit too but he's going to charge around $995 which isn't that bad for the quality and ease of the mounting of everything. Plus he's a really helpful and a cool guy too ! But if can get it cheaper then I'm all for it :thumbsup: .

Thanks Daz:

With the weather warming up I will be able to get more inspired! I can't see it being too expensive to make as the steel is relatively cheap and I would think a skilled welder wouldn't spend more than a day on them, especailly if I pre-cut everything. I was thinking the $400-500 range seemed about right. I will go ahead and make two and give you first crack at the second one. I also have the installation CD with pictures of the critical measurements and set-backs.

As for the bolt-in... interesting! It has the same "dog bone" support which requires cutting the floor pan. Frankly once you make the cuts a weld-in kit seems to make more sense. Wayne's kit welds between and to the rear frame rails.

One thing we'll have to contend with is exhaust routing. There's no room to go over the batwing and the exhaust on the C4s goes under the pumpkin so we'll have to figure something out.

Let's stay in touch!

Best Wishes,

Jeff

[Daz]

That is freakin awsome :D ! I appreciate it :thumbsup: !

Exhaust, maybe we can do a 90 degree right after the muffler to the left & right about 2" or 3" or maybe pointed down . I don't know I'll have to see what the law says around here about it, even though I'll be smog exempt, I'll still have to abide by the noise law.

[Daz]

Thanks Daz:

With the weather warming up I will be able to get more inspired! I can't see it being too expensive to make as the steel is relatively cheap and I would think a skilled welder wouldn't spend more than a day on them, especailly if I pre-cut everything. I was thinking the $400-500 range seemed about right. I will go ahead and make two and give you first crack at the second one. I also have the installation CD with pictures of the critical measurements and set-backs.

As for the bolt-in... interesting! It has the same "dog bone" support which requires cutting the floor pan. Frankly once you make the cuts a weld-in kit seems to make more sense. Wayne's kit welds between and to the rear frame rails.

One thing we'll have to contend with is exhaust routing. There's no room to go over the batwing and the exhaust on the C4s goes under the pumpkin so we'll have to figure something out.

Let's stay in touch!

Best Wishes,

Jeff

Got just under $400 saved up ! Just need to sell some pistons and the original rear end out of my camaro( I think I have buyers for both already).

[Daz]

Just waiting with a big :D on my face cause I'm getting this taken care of. I was worried that I would find a kit and have to go with a 12 bolt or similar.

[jefoh4]

Hey guys, I'm also looking to install a c4 IRS in my 67 camaro. I can fab and weld if I just had the plans. Any info will help. I would even be interested in buying a kit if the price is right. Also would love to see the dvd. I didn't even know that existed. Thank, Jeff

[kamaro_krs]

I know this thread is a few years old, but what is the status of the IRS builds? Are the brackets for sale now?

[Jim Nilsen]

It's going to be interesting to see how the cars turn out. There are a lot of little things that have to be done to the floor and wheel houses to make the whole package work to it's fullest benefits. I remember seeing Waynes setup and couldn't get myself to like how it was done. I had already had mine in so it didn't matter to me. I put the torque arm in and most of you won't do that so you will save some floor fabrication but you will have to make some room and modify the back seat wire frame if you plan on having one.

The exhaust is something that you will find is better going under the rear for a bunch of reasons. the biggest is how easy it can be to remove the whole exhaust in one piece which can really be handy when you go to remove your trans.

I wish you guy's a lot of patience and understanding cause you will find that it is a lot of work!!!

[Vince@Meanstreets]

It's going to be interesting to see how the cars turn out. There are a lot of little things that have to be done to the floor and wheel houses to make the whole package work to it's fullest benefits. I remember seeing Waynes setup and couldn't get myself to like how it was done. I had already had mine in so it didn't matter to me. I put the torque arm in and most of you won't do that so you will save some floor fabrication but you will have to make some room and modify the back seat wire frame if you plan on having one.

The exhaust is something that you will find is better going under the rear for a bunch of reasons. the biggest is how easy it can be to remove the whole exhaust in one piece which can really be handy when you go to remove your trans.

I wish you guy's a lot of patience and understanding cause you will find that it is a lot of work!!!

you got that right Jim, its a lot of work to do it right.

guys, try to get in touch with Edward Benard, (formally of 21st century machines) he was the closest to getting an IRS in a car without major modification or fabrication. last heard the job went for $20k.
http://www.lateral-g.net/forums/showthread.php4?t=1522

I believe Payton has had one done...just guessing here...
http://www.lateral-g.net/forums/showthread.php4?t=2032

otherwise your best bet is Rodger at Ironworks in Bakersfeild.
vince

[Track Junky]

Paul and Kyle Newman put a C4 rear in their '55 and last I heard were working on a set up for 1st gen Camaro's. May want to try them also.

[Vegas69]

Payton has a 9".

[66LS7]

Heidts has a bolt in IRS kit for first gen's

[bonehead1968]

J need a 1st Gen f body kit anyone have one?

[dhutton]

J need a 1st Gen f body kit anyone have one?
Heidts has one.

Don

[Heidts_Sales]

Hello,

In regards to your IRS placement on your Gen I Camaro, we do offer a bolt in complete set up if your interested. You can give us a call at 800-841-8188 and we can discuss options.

Thank you,
Harold Likens
Sales / Tech
Heidts Hot Rods and Muscle Cars

[gearheadgarage]

Anyone ever come to market yet with IFS mounting bracketry or a kit that will accommodate C6 rear suspension? I have an 03 z06 donor to use......

[senor_Camaro]

you would have to mount your transmission in the rear as the differential and transmission are mated in one assmebly (transaxle), you would definately have to fab out a cradle and run the differential tube to the rear from your LS engine. hasnt been done yet without a custom rear frame

[214Chevy]

you would have to mount your transmission in the rear as the differential and transmission are mated in one assmebly (transaxle), you would definately have to fab out a cradle and run the differential tube to the rear from your LS engine. hasnt been done yet without a custom rear frame

Negative...Roadster Shop has a beautiful IRS setup for 1st gen's that you can buy as a rear clip or a full frame option and it doesn't use the torque tube and rear transaxle. Call them up, talk to Bryan and he'll explain everything to you and answer all of your questions.