blackened my 72 cuda

[tellyv]

Here's a couple pics, just mocking the drivetrain in now, 6.1 hemi, alterkation k-member, air bar, going pretty good hopefully by next weekend I'll have the exhaust and everything complete so I can dissasemble and start the body mods, I'll post more pics here and there, theres some more @ my website violettoautoworks.com click on blog. thanks telly p.s. its not like a blackened grouper sandwitch it's like the metallica song


http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii154/tellyv/cuda1.jpg

http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii154/tellyv/cuda2.jpg

http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii154/tellyv/cuda3.jpg

http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii154/tellyv/cuda4.jpg

[rjsjea]

Looks good......are those TTI headers or custom??

[69 b5blue]

looking good. got a good start.:hail:

[Garage Dog 65]

Wow, the Mopar guys are coming on strong !

Great project and should be killer. Good luck !!

Jim

[tellyv]

yes I went with tti's they fit excellent. Looks good......are those TTI headers or custom??

[waynieZ]

Looks Good!
Wayne

[tellyv]

what do you thinks of these, I'm thinking 18 & 19's or 19 & 20's not sure but I think this is the right wheel for me. http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii154/tellyv/bud2.jpg

[RedRyder]

those look great.....what are they?

[tellyv]

budniks, its between this and the gasser d I think I'm going with thesethose look great.....what are they?

[tellyv]

well here's a couple pics of some progress, exhaust it in 3" mandrel bent tight fit but looks good, I worked all day on the front bumper I took 2 69 camaro bumpers and did some chopping its almost done have to do some more welding and smoothing but it looks pretty good ( yes I seen troy do this with sick fish I dont like to copy but its was easier than building something from scratch) I'll move to the lower valance next not sure what I'm going to do with it yet. Then I'll start on the firewall and engine compartment.

http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii154/tellyv/exh.jpg
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii154/tellyv/bump1.jpg
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii154/tellyv/bump3.jpg

[steveo346]

:yes: damn bro nice project.....looks very nice,..cant wait to see it done

[JohnC]

Looks very nice!
I'd be really cool if we could get all these custom cuda together when they are done. I'm doing a '71.

Take Care.
John:thumbsup:

[tellyv]

well not much time left to get it done for the power tour but I'll take it even if its in primer, with all the customer projects and this depressing winter it's been a slow moving project but I made some good progress this week making the trans tunnel and smoothing out the engine compartment, I hope by next weekend I'll have the underside bedlined and the engine compartment painted so I can start putting this thing back together. Here's a couple pics maybe some more next week.
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii154/tellyv/cudafirewall.jpg
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii154/tellyv/ec1.jpg
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii154/tellyv/ec2.jpg
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii154/tellyv/ec3.jpg
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii154/tellyv/ec4.jpg

[aany001]

wow your car looks awesome....I just sent a link to my buddy that has a 72 as well but all stock and he's itching to give it the PTing treatment since he seen my camaro.It should be interesting what he says.Can't wait to see yours done and please keep the pictures coming. :thumbsup:

[Dodgenut64]

Comming along great. Got a question for you. Im taking the paint off my car and now im into the nooks and crannies. Did you get all the dirt and surface rust out from around where the upper A arms go on and below that where the cam bolt mounts are welded onto the frame.? If so, what did you use?
Looking good

[tellyv]

Comming along great. Got a question for you. Im taking the paint off my car and now im into the nooks and crannies. Did you get all the dirt and surface rust out from around where the upper A arms go on and below that where the cam bolt mounts are welded onto the frame.? If so, what did you use?
Looking good

I got lucky I bought this car last year from a guy that just restored it and had it out on its 2nd run and got hit in the left front not bad but he had enough and wanted out, I talked to the owner and he had the car stripped and painted so this thing is clean I own a bodyshop and it's so nice I'm not going to strip the car but in your case a little laquer thinner and a scotch brite goes along way or if you can pressure wash it and then use a sandblaster, that works great too you can get a cheap hand held spot blaster and they work great for small stuff.

[rjsjea]

Looks good:thumbsup: .......why are you leaving the cut-outs in the inner fenders?? just curious

[tellyv]

Looks good:thumbsup: .......why are you leaving the cut-outs in the inner fenders?? just curious

With the headers and that big ol hemi I thought it would be the only way to get to the alignment bolts, I'll make covers that bolt in so you wont notice the holes, on the drivers side I left the front stock because I'll put an air box there.

[tellyv]

Well heres what my easter weekend consisted of more engine compartment hell but I finally got it painted its a dark charcoal with semi gloss clear
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii154/tellyv/ecp.jpg
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii154/tellyv/ecp1.jpg

[tellyv]

well one week later the engine and tranny are back in and painted the bottom is bedlined all the accessories are on it's starting to look like something, the suspension will go on next and I'll put the rear end together 390 gears and moser axles.
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii154/tellyv/bedliner.jpg
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii154/tellyv/cudaeng.jpg

[rjsjea]

Engine looks good all blacked out.....:cool:

[awr68]

Looking great! Keep up the good work!!!

[tellyv]

Well heres some more pics got most of the ac in and starting to put everything together, not sure if I'll make the power tour but I'm still trying, going to get the brake lines and air ride plummed this week then start on the fuel system and wiring.
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii154/tellyv/cudaeng.jpg
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii154/tellyv/eng1.jpg
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii154/tellyv/eng2.jpg
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii154/tellyv/fatmat.jpg

[tellyv]

I recieved some bling today only took 4 months, oh well they look killer I think I'll black out the centers and maybe brush the lips well see after I get them on. Well the cuda wont make the power tour but I'll pick it up in Rochester and go to Madison in one of my customers 66 chevelle, hope to meet some of you there. later telly

http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii154/tellyv/budnik.jpghere.

[JohnC]

Looks great, Telly. What trans and trans crossmember are you using??

Thanks
John

[tellyv]

545 4 speed auto, I made my own crossmember out of the stock one it was very simple.

[GHOSTDANCER]

Looks great :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :cheers:

[tellyv]

Here's a couple of pics with the new wheels.
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii154/tellyv/cwheels1.jpg
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii154/tellyv/cwheels2.jpg

[JohnC]

Looks killer...what are the rim and tire specs?

John

[dj3]

Wow, a Cuda may be the only car I would ditch my 69 for.

[tellyv]

the wheels are 18x8 up front and 19x10 in back nitto nt555 for rubber 235/40 in front and 275/35 out back.

[fasbird]

This is exactly the conversion I am considering for my '71 Road Runner. Here's where I sit so far.

SUSPENSION:

Already have the AlterKtion, w-p/s, rear coil over AirRide setup for the suspension. This setup is not installed yet as I am just getting the finished body up on the stands now.

ENGINE:

I was going with the 440-6 that has been in the car since '80, but have shifted my wants to installing the new 6.1 crate kit now available. I am in the process of researching all the items to make this fit. I want to add A/C to the car regardfless of engine. The only thing now, is costing out the two engine choices and making the decision as to which way to go. I am REALLY leaning towards the 6.1.

TRANSMISSION:

I have had a Keisler 5spd int he car since the summer of '01. It has worked flawlessly and will go back in.

Well, that is the direction I am going. Not a hardcore G-Machine, but more towards the cruising Pro-touring.

I have some specific questions for my next post.

Gary
BTW, my '71 was a feature car in Mopar Muscle in the Sept. '99 issue. I know, that was a long time ago, but the car is a nice example that I have bounced back between stock-modified over the almost thirty years I've owned it.

[fasbird]

Tellyv, LOVE what you are doing to your Cuda' :hail: :hail: :hail: Can you give any insight or suggestions to avoid any pitfalls when doing this setup? Here's a few questions;

1. How much clearence does the 6.1 have with the AlterKtion? Pan? A/C unit?

2. Did you get together with Bill Reilly prior to doing this to get his suggestions for the conversion?

3. Did you have to get the TTI's custom made, or do they have something for this conversion?

4. Is your 6.1 out of a production car, or did you get it from Mopar Performance?

5. What Engine management system are you using, and where are you mounting the system?

6. If it is a production 6.1, are you modifying the computer system from the donor car? Are you using o2 sensors? What are you running exhaust wise from the headers back?

I'll come up with more questions, but any help you can give is TRULY appreciated. Love what you are doing. My only regret is I didn't make the decision to go with the modern drivetrain earlier, as I would have reworked (smoothed) the cowl and inner panel like you did.

Thanks, Gary

[rjsjea]

This pic is an Abody with AlterK/6.1. The pic uses the older style crossbar, he now does a mandrel bent one, but same dimensions. AC compressor fits well, you would have even more room. Bill (RMS) has done a few of these now.

[fasbird]

Thanks for the photo.

I spoke with Bill this morning about the swap. I also have the older style crossmember. He stated that the member had to get different brackets welded to it to except the 5.7/6.1 mounts. I could do it myself or send him the crossmember for him to do it. He also said he worked directly with TTI to develop the headers they now sell for this conversion. If you go to the TTI site, you will see there is actually a specific TTI header for the RMS suspension. Next was the oil pan clearence. Bill suggested the stock truck pan or the Charlie's pan. If I wanted to use a Milodon<sp> I would have to drop the rack alittle for clearence.

I am still leaning towards this conversion.

[tellyv]

I'll try to answer most of these, the motor is a 07 charger out of a wreck and it had 6k miles on it, I went with the automatic just for my budget, I'm using a street and performance wire harness with a stock style computer that will also work with the tranny, I had enough wire to run the harness in the drivers wheel well and I mounted the computer in the drivers kick panel. The headers are from tti made to fit the alterktion kit they should have a set for your car. The only clearance problems I had was the rack to oil pan clearance and with a couple of love taps to the pan everything worked out well, I used all the stock accesories and the a/c compressor with a southern air hot rod style system, I did have to buy the adaptor to the compressor to get a.n. fittings to work I bought them from bouchilon performance (I'm sure I spelled that wrong). If you have anymore ? let me know I had alot of help from dave weber at modern muscle in martinsville and I'll get you his # thanks telly

[Gearing]

very cool!

[tony byram]

Great looking! Great choice of wheels, they will look super when you black out the centers. Now you got me thinking cuda or challenger for my next project. It just has amazing style to it. keep up the great work, and keep the pics coming! Tony:thumbsup:

[gionni]

This is exactly the conversion I am considering for my '71 Road Runner. Here's where I sit so far.

SUSPENSION:

Already have the AlterKtion, w-p/s, rear coil over AirRide setup for the suspension. This setup is not installed yet as I am just getting the finished body up on the stands now.


approx the setup of my just finished project on my '71 road runner... ;)
alterktion with airride and p/s, rear modified airbar 4-link-system from air ride technologies for 68-70 b-body's! next step in a few month: 14/13" brakes with 6- and 4-pistons...and later another engine!

http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o214/gionni78/1-ohneSchrift.jpg

@tellyv: really nice your cuda!!!!!!!!!

[Rybar]

Dude this is a SICK project, I just stumbled on this thread today. Killer Job, love all the details and the 6.1 looks sweet in there. :thumbsup:

[tellyv]

well my finger prints are gone now and all I have to show for it is some shiny paint, wow is black a pain. Its been awhile since I posted but we've been busy as hell, here's what been going on. It runs (yeah) I painted everything besides the roof and the trunk, due to the summer being almost over thats all I'm going to do with it for now and try to get it on the road and work the bugs out, I'm going to put the stripes on it this week and shave the door handles and drip rails this winter, but enough talk heres some pics. We'll be at the madison goodguys show on aug 15-17. see ya telly
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii154/tellyv/fenders.jpg
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii154/tellyv/hood.jpg
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii154/tellyv/cp2.jpg
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii154/tellyv/cp1.jpg

[rjsjea]

:thumbsup: ......looks great, nice stance

[tellyv]

http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii154/tellyv/cp4.jpg

[Tom.A]

Looks killer :thumbsup:

[GHOSTDANCER]

Cuda + Black = BADAZZ :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :cheers:

[waynieZ]

WOW that looks sweet!

[DRJDVM's '69]

Wait....its all painted and this winter you're gonna shave the door handles and the drip rails ???

Okay...

Car looks sick....

[tellyv]

Wait....its all painted and this winter you're gonna shave the door handles and the drip rails ???

Okay...

Car looks sick....

sometime ago I realized my goal to take it on the power tour wasnt going to happen, then the car craft nat. and it sure wasnt looking like I would even get to the good guys show one hour from me, so I had to make a choice get it done enough to work the bugs out and enjoy it for a month or waite intill next year and I'm sick of not having any fun so its coming out!!!! and I sure didnt want it to look like crap so I painted some of it, its only paint and I own a bodyshop I'll get my paint rep to give me some free paint, oh and this thing is far from done this winter its getting some cool body mods custom front and rear valances and maybe rocker extensions. All of you know how it is I just want to drive it!!!!!

[tellyv]

Had to move some stuff around this morning so I took a pic outside
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii154/tellyv/cp5.jpg

[tellyv]

well It's been a busy couple of weeks and the cuda will drive into the goodguys show on it's own power still have alot to do but here it is, I'll post more pics next week.
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii154/tellyv/cuda4-1.jpg
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii154/tellyv/cuda7.jpg
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii154/tellyv/cuda6.jpg
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii154/tellyv/cuda8.jpg

[radrambler]

wow

great looking ride..how could you not enjoy that !
nice work:thumbsup:

radrambler

[JohnC]

Very, very nice...wow. Are the rim faces going to be black or staying with the full-polished?
Really makes me want to get mine done...
Looks great!

John

[GHOSTDANCER]

Great job :hail: :hail: :cheers:

[Alex396ss]

Awesome!

Alex

[tellyv]

Very, very nice...wow. Are the rim faces going to be black or staying with the full-polished?
Really makes me want to get mine done...
Looks great!

John

I'm not sure the car looks really good how it is, I guess everyones feedback will help me decide.

[tgvettes]

That type of wheel I would leave all polished, If you had 3 piece competition style wheels then I would color match or do a dark grey center.

Tonny

[dodge]

awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[JohnC]

I'm not sure the car looks really good how it is, I guess everyones feedback will help me decide.

I can't help you there--it would look great either way. Maybe a photoshop would help you decide. Congrats, man. You did an awesome job!

Enjoy!

John

[syborg tt]

Car looks great.

I wouldn't touch the wheels. The car needs a little bit of bling to make it stand out. If you black out the wheels I think the car will lose the look.

[tellyv]

thanks for all the replies, I recieved a fab 5 today at the Madison Goodguys show I'll get some pics out on Monday, I'm freaking stoked the car isnt even completely finished and the response has been awsome.

[Ummgawa]

Someone here said they'd give up their 69 Camaro for a Cuda. I'd have to agree. Yours is damn sweet.

[syborg tt]

thanks for all the replies, I recieved a fab 5 today at the Madison Goodguys show I'll get some pics out on Monday, I'm freaking stoked the car isnt even completely finished and the response has been awsome.


gotta be the wheels - oh wait - gotta be the stance - oh wait - gotta be the whole package

Congrads - car looks awesome

[tones2SS]

Car does look awesome!!!
GOOD JOB!:thumbsup:

[richs71nova]

car looks great man! next to chevy's, mopar muscle is definantly where its at! and the rims look great the way they are, i wouldnt touch ':thumbsup: em!

[T_Raven]

i can't believe i didn't see this thread sooner. your car is gorgeous. one of my favorite body styles. too bad they are so expensive. i love the wheels and the black paint looks great

[tellyv]

well sunday was a very typical day in a hot rodders life, pulled it out of the trailer and guess what it didnt start so after getting pulled into the fab 5 parking area I went to work, I had a dead short to the fuel pump somehow I managed to smash the fuel pump wire between the tank and the floor pan not a bad fix but it was a little embarassing, other than that we had a great weekend lots of compliments and about a half a box of buisness cards gone. thanks for all the replies I'll kept posting as I make more mods. see ya telly
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii154/tellyv/ggcuda.jpg

[Rybar]

WOW :wow: what a BADASS Cuda :hail:

[awr68]

Looks great!! :thumbsup:

[Vegas69]

:thumbsup: Gorgeous!!!!!

[G_T]

That is just Brutal looking... Love it! :thumbsup:

Go Mopar!

[Garage Dog 65]

:thumbsup: Whew ! One killer looking fish !! I hope it's got one very nasty sounding exhaust note to go with that wicked look.

Jim

[SpeedRacer]

I love it! Just looks so tough. Definitely keep the wheels polished :thumbsup:

[JohnC]

well sunday was a very typical day in a hot rodders life, pulled it out of the trailer and guess what it didnt start so after getting pulled into the fab 5 parking area I went to work, I had a dead short to the fuel pump somehow I managed to smash the fuel pump wire between the tank and the floor pan not a bad fix but it was a little embarassing, other than that we had a great weekend lots of compliments and about a half a box of buisness cards gone. thanks for all the replies I'll kept posting as I make more mods. see ya telly
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii154/tellyv/ggcuda.jpg

Just wondering do you have any plans for side mirrors? My project is very similiar, but I'm not sure what to do. Our michigan law says I have to have a driver's side mirror. Not sure what to use....one driver...or both...and what kind? What did you have in mind for your project?
Thanks

John

[DOOM]

:wow: Man that is just AWSOME!!!!! You have the stance perfect,and the black is beautiful:faint:
Mario

[Tiger]

I love it!!! its super nice and it looks very straight as well.

I wouldnt blacken out the wheels..

[tellyv]

I'm not sure what I'm doing for side mirrors, I probably just leave them off unless I find something cool.

[tellyv]

well I decided to clean up the engine compartment a little more, thanks to some cool fasteners and hood pins from the ring bros. Not done but getting there I'll post some pics when its done. see ya telly
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii154/tellyv/hoodskirt1.jpg
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii154/tellyv/hoodskirt2.jpg

[syborg tt]

yep - that is what it needed

looks awesome

[awr68]

Looking good! I like your work in progress approach! Nothing like enjoing a killer car while you make some changes!! :thumbsup:

[tellyv]

Looking good! I like your work in progress approach! Nothing like enjoing a killer car while you make some changes!! :thumbsup:

It's pretty damn hard getting my own car done with all the customer crap in the way so this thing would never see daylight unless I built it this way, and theres more to come in the future!!!!

[tellyv]

well I really like the way it turned out, next after joliet I'll make an airbox and get rid of the ugly ass air filter, I'm just going to do some more buffing and fix some of the little stuff for now and then fab up the new front and rear valances later on see some of ya in joliet. telly

http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii154/tellyv/hs2.jpg

[Van B]

It's pretty damn hard getting my own car done with all the customer crap in the way so this thing would never see daylight unless I built it this way, and theres more to come in the future!!!!

Hey now. Some of that customer crap might be mine soon! :rofl:

[oorange67]

Looks Killer!!!!!

[mark smith]

Beautiful car.I like the original looking stripe with the modern logo.

[Mover]

Great looking project!

[fasbird]

What a bunch of cool mods and ideas. Great job. I can only hope my '71 Road Runner comes close.

[Ronny]

Really nice Cuda :thumbsup: Lots of inspiration!
Makes me wanna start on my `72 Cuda.

[GMracer]

The underhood shot is absolute money, makes me re-consider putting a different color under the hood on my all black and billet truck. :thumbsup:

[fasbird]

I really like the "clean-up cover" metalwork. Gives me a couple ideas for the '71 RR project which will eliminate the need to weld up every hole in the inner fender areas. I especially like the shroud in front of the radiator. It really cleans up the open between the rad support and front header.

[tellyv]

thanks guys, I actually started driving it, getting the bugs out so I dont have any problems next spring(hopefully). I cant believe how fast this thing is, poor nittos!!!! see ya telly

[krptonite]

that is one badass ride you got going there, have you heard anything bad about these aftermarket frontends causing the car to buckle?? we put a similar one in the 70 cuda we built with the viper motor and the owner is worried now as he has heard of several E bodies folding up at the front ! as the original chassis puts all the load thru the torque boxes via the torsion rods so the inner fenders dont take any load but when going to a coilover set up this puts all load thru the front rails and inner fenders,do you have any thoughts or input to add as we have another cuda to do with the same front end and the owner doesnt want to modify the topside at all, lastly, whose wiring harness is it? as i would like to fit an srt in an earlier barracuda at some time in the not to distant future.

[tony byram]

Excellent job Telly! Thats great that you can drive it, enjoy it, and still work on it. I like the wheels just the way they are, think that if the centers were black it would take away from the loks of the car. That stance is killer! You were on the money. I bet those poor Nittos get a heck of a workout with that Hemi, I own a 72 Camaro Z28 and a Cuda or Challenger are the only two cars I would even consider trading for. Great job, very clean not over the top crazy, just tastefully done. NICE!:cheers:

[rjsjea]

that is one badass ride you got going there, have you heard anything bad about these aftermarket frontends causing the car to buckle?? we put a similar one in the 70 cuda we built with the viper motor and the owner is worried now as he has heard of several E bodies folding up at the front ! as the original chassis puts all the load thru the torque boxes via the torsion rods so the inner fenders dont take any load but when going to a coilover set up this puts all load thru the front rails and inner fenders,do you have any thoughts or input to add as we have another cuda to do with the same front end and the owner doesnt want to modify the topside at all, lastly, whose wiring harness is it? as i would like to fit an srt in an earlier barracuda at some time in the not to distant future.


The AlterKtion from RMS puts the load on the K-member itself and front frame rails, not the inner fenders at all, actually the hole where the shocks originally mount becomes obsolete. There are AlterKtion's w/ 60K plus miles on them now without any issues.

XV is another option, a much greater investment $$ and fabrication, uses C5 suspension. Way badass, but double the money $$

[Nvrenuf]

Oh man! Just came across this car this morning! Awesome Cuda. Great job:thumbsup: I love it. Engine compt cleanup made a world of difference:cool:

[krptonite]

The AlterKtion from RMS puts the load on the K-member itself and front frame rails, not the inner fenders at all, actually the hole where the shocks originally mount becomes obsolete. There are AlterKtion's w/ 60K plus miles on them now without any issues.

XV is another option, a much greater investment $$ and fabrication, uses C5 suspension. Way badass, but double the money $$

i know what you are saying but the inner fenders are all that support the front frame rails and the frame rails were never designed to take the load at that point, if the car is 100% rustfree it may be ok though, thanks for the input.

[tellyv]

i know what you are saying but the inner fenders are all that support the front frame rails and the frame rails were never designed to take the load at that point, if the car is 100% rustfree it may be ok though, thanks for the input.

When I was smoothing the engine compartment I stitch welded everything I could were ever I could. I have no faith in the factory spotwelds. thanks for the compliments guys!!!!

[jvike]

that is one badass ride you got going there, have you heard anything bad about these aftermarket frontends causing the car to buckle?? we put a similar one in the 70 cuda we built with the viper motor and the owner is worried now as he has heard of several E bodies folding up at the front ! as the original chassis puts all the load thru the torque boxes via the torsion rods so the inner fenders dont take any load but when going to a coilover set up this puts all load thru the front rails and inner fenders,do you have any thoughts or input to add as we have another cuda to do with the same front end and the owner doesnt want to modify the topside at all, lastly, whose wiring harness is it? as i would like to fit an srt in an earlier barracuda at some time in the not to distant future.

Isn't that the Magnumforce front? They used it on the Sick Fish, It does mount the coilovers in the orginal damper locations, looks scary to me. Boyd Coddington also used it on the MAX HEMI '64 Polara. Don't know it that's the one you mean?

[krptonite]

the unit we used was an alterkation front end

[tellyv]

Isn't that the Magnumforce front? They used it on the Sick Fish, It does mount the coilovers in the orginal damper locations, looks scary to me. Boyd Coddington also used it on the MAX HEMI '64 Polara. Don't know it that's the one you mean?

the sick fish I do believe did not have an xv I'm not sure what it did have I'll check the build book at the shop tomorrow, the alterktion does not use the stock shock mounts it has there own brackets off of the k-member so your coil over or shockwave does not use the stock mounting location!!!!

[fasbird]

I hope this doesn't cause too much debate, but I keep hearing from a "very few" on different boards about how the RMS puts stress on the frame rails. I have the RMS sitting in garage and have stared at this setup. Unless the self-contained coil brackets fold inward, how does this setup put undue stress on the frame? And, so I don't mis-communicate, the key phrase in my statement is "undue stress". Looks to be one of the best thought-out systems I have seen. At this point, I'm glad I purchased it!!!!

[krptonite]

i dont think the concern is that the coilover brackets will bend its that the whole frame is pushing up against the frame rails and inner fenders or that the weight of the car is forcing down (same thing) whereas the original torsion bars move all the forces back to the torque boxes where there is a lot more structural strength, i have no personal thing against rms , infact when i start my mopar it will more than likely have one as i cant afford an xv system but i will also fit chassis connectors so as to make a continuous rail front to back to help it out. maybe this is why the general lees always folded up so easily!!lol, i dont think anyone is out to diss any companies product but i also think it is a legitimate concern especially as there are more than a few crusty frame rails out there and there are some really sharp minds on this site so between everyone we should be able to get it sorted so we can all put any possible issues to rest.

[jvike]

the sick fish I do believe did not have an xv I'm not sure what it did have I'll check the build book at the shop tomorrow, the alterktion does not use the stock shock mounts it has there own brackets off of the k-member so your coil over or shockwave does not use the stock mounting location!!!!

As I said, Sick Fish has a Magnumforce front end. It was built before XV on the market.

I've never heard anything bad about the RMS, but as said it does put the stress on the rails. The best system in my eyes is the XV, they have extra tubes inserted in the rails to stiffen it up and they have developed a front end stiffening kit that IMO should be a part of the XV Lvl II front suspension package.

Anyone that want to educate themselfs on Mopar coilover systems should read this entire thread:
http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=QuestionAnswer&Number=3922429&fpart=&PHPSESSID=

[tellyv]

there are alot of different subframes or k-frames out on the market. like most people I build my cars to drive not race, the cost of xv just wasnt in the budget I build my cars to have fun and sell so the cost does come into the whole aspect of things and if I have to choose between total race performance or drivability I choose drivablility how many times are you going to race your car? maybe at a goodguys autocross? around here theres not many places to autocross so my cars are built for looks and definatly some performance but not for full on race cars. I highly doubt that what the normal driver does with these cars would cause them to calapse unless there a total rust bucket that wasnt fixed right. You could also build a front hoop out of roll cage tube, come off of the firewall and run it just behind the rad. support, that would be pretty easy and I think theres plenty of room for it. telly

[cees67]

i even love the name ........blackened (like the metallica song)

[tellyv]

Getting some more progress, this was my first attempt at custom interior work I think it turned out pretty good. Next I'll make a new center counsel.
mock up
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii154/tellyv/s1.jpg
finished
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii154/tellyv/a1.jpg
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii154/tellyv/a2.jpg
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii154/tellyv/a3.jpg

[Van B]

Looks good Telly.

[MarkM66]

Any updates?

What a/c system are you using? I noticed you had the condenser mounted vertically, and not horizontally as vintage air states.

I'm really not sure, maybe they can go either way.

[tellyv]

Any updates?

What a/c system are you using? I noticed you had the condenser mounted vertically, and not horizontally as vintage air states.

I'm really not sure, maybe they can go either way.

Southern Auto Air, I changed the mounting of the a/c condensor so it's horizontal now(I called them and they said not to put it vert.), as for update I've been pounding the hell out of her just got back from motorstate and it did well, besides it needs a little bigger brake system, we were about in the middle of the pack on the auto cross so not to bad still trying to figure out where to set the ride height, it likes to roll over really bad unless theres a ton of air in it so I'll have to work on that a little, I still have a couple things to finish a little wireing and the a/c needs to be charged. telly
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii154/tellyv/autox.jpg

[JohnC]

Any reason for picking Southern Auto Air? I planned on going with Classic auto Air over "others." I was told it fits the best....any opinions?

Very nice ride...hope my '71 is up to par..

[tellyv]

Any reason for picking Southern Auto Air? I planned on going with Classic auto Air over "others." I was told it fits the best....any opinions?

Very nice ride...hope my '71 is up to par..

I'm sorry mine is classic auto air also.

[Capjr]

Telly,
WOW THATS AN AWESOME CUDA YOU GOT THERE . TO ME IT LOOKS BETTER THAN SICK FISH. NICE WORK:thumbsup: :hail:

[nvr2fst]

Telly,
Car turned out great. Got to see it in Racine. Ill have to stop by your place someday and shoot the crap when Im heading up to your neck of WI.
Dave

[tellyv]

Telly,
Car turned out great. Got to see it in Racine. Ill have to stop by your place someday and shoot the crap when Im heading up to your neck of WI.
Dave

sounds great I'm usually always around.

[tellyv]

Telly,
WOW THATS AN AWESOME CUDA YOU GOT THERE . TO ME IT LOOKS BETTER THAN SICK FISH. NICE WORK:thumbsup: :hail:

Thanks for the compliment it looks good but sick fish is a way nicer ride, I'd need another 100k to even come close!!!!

[Scorpner]

Wow :wow:
Just came across this from the for sale ad. One of the best looking Cuda's I've ever seen. :hail:

[tellyv]

thanks man:thumbsup: