giants won super bowl

[deuce32]

:willy: :willy: :wow: :wow: :thumbsup:

[camcojb]

:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Jody

[Hdesign]

Congrats Giants fans! They played a great game, enjoy it!

[deuce32]

they pulled off a great deserved win , pats did good as well but i wanted ny to win anyway ...

[Vegas69]

Boring first half but great finish!!!! Glad they won.

[Sales@Dutchboys]

Great Game! :thumbsup:


Paul

[mazspeed]

Best super bowl in years, and hopefully this puts to rest that the Pats don't deserve to be put up as one of the best teams ever.

[68protouring454]

Best super bowl in years, and hopefully this puts to rest that the Pats don't deserve to be put up as one of the best teams ever.
????? are you kidding me? lol

[HRBS]

Belichick's dirty attemp to gain 5 yards for throwing the red flag... come on.... the guy was trying (actually leaping) to get off the field on time.
Then he walks off with 1 second left, leaving his defense on the field to finish the game by themselfs.... Brady's halfway down the tunnel when the game ends and never congradulates Eli ?
Imagine being a Pats defenseman walking off the field after the game to see that your entire offense and coach already left....
Sore Losers ?
Baby's ?
Some other words come to mind also....

[ccracin]

Belichick's dirty attemp to gain 5 yards for throwing the red flag... come on.... the guy was trying (actually leaping) to get off the field on time.
Then he walks off with 1 second left, leaving his defense on the field to finish the game by themselfs.... Brady's halfway down the tunnel when the game ends and never congradulates Eli ?
Imagine being a Pats defenseman walking off the field after the game to see that your entire offense and coach already left....
Sore Losers ?
Baby's ?
Some other words come to mind also....

I agree, that was as unprofessional as I've seen. Did you catch Belichick's post game interview? Suck it up and be professional. If I represented my company like that after a bad day, I would be reprimanded for sure.

[Rybar]

Belichick's dirty attemp to gain 5 yards for throwing the red flag... come on.... the guy was trying (actually leaping) to get off the field on time.
Then he walks off with 1 second left, leaving his defense on the field to finish the game by themselfs.... Brady's halfway down the tunnel when the game ends and never congradulates Eli ?
Imagine being a Pats defenseman walking off the field after the game to see that your entire offense and coach already left....
Sore Losers ?
Baby's ?
Some other words come to mind also....

What a bunch of Losers, and that's why I'm glad they lost. I can't stand Brady, Belichick and the Pats. Good for the Giants, there Defence stone walled the Pats and I've never seen Brady hit and sacked so many times all year. :thumbsup:

[68protouring454]

lol, this is great

[mazspeed]

????? are you kidding me? lol

As far as?

[68protouring454]

puts the pats down because they should not be considered the best ever? how can you make an argument other then losing last night about not being the best ever? i didn't hate the 49ers when they were a dynasty in the late 80s early 90s, i liked them as I do the pats.
the giants played great, and they had some lucky catches, which is whats needed to win, and they did that, however to rag on the pats is crazy.

[Hdesign]

Here we go...:rolleyes:

Giants played a great game, they absolutely deserved the win yesterday. It was a clean game with few penalties and almost no Instant Replays. The refs just let them play as they should have.

To say that the Pats have no class, looked unprofessional or they were babies is questionable. Every single Pats interview clearly said, "We didn't get it done today and the Giants played better in every aspect of the game." What,is everyone expecting Belichick to be smiling and doing cartwheels giving an interview? C'mon, the guy barely cracks a smile when they win! I haven't heard any whining or finger-pointing like what went on in virtually every opponent locker room after the Pats beat them. They ARE a very classy organization that gives credit where credit is due and don't typically make excuses.

Yes, coach and some players left with :01 to go. Were they aware of the clock? Who knows. Does it really matter? The coaches shook hands at the 50 and it was over. Not as big a deal as some are making it out to be. It boils down to people can't stand someone that is successful. We'd rather see an accomplished winner fall than anything else. Pretty warped if you ask me.

18-1 is still one more win than the perfect 72 Dolphins. They broke almost every record there is this year. Without a doubt, this was an incredible year for the Pats and I would take this exact same line up again next year without a single change (except for Ellis Hobbs).

[HRBS]

Good game = Absolutely.
Good post-game interviews = Yes

But what we are saying is of what happened ON the field. That was totally and completely unprofessional period. (and yes I would be saying the same thing if the roles were reversed). Bottom line is that what they said in post game in has NO effect on how they acted immediately after the game.
For the record, I am not a Giants fan, in fact I dont like Eli one bit but thought it was a great game.

[ccracin]

Here we go...:rolleyes:

Giants played a great game, they absolutely deserved the win yesterday. It was a clean game with few penalties and almost no Instant Replays. The refs just let them play as they should have.

To say that the Pats have no class, looked unprofessional or they were babies is questionable. Every single Pats interview clearly said, "We didn't get it done today and the Giants played better in every aspect of the game." What,is everyone expecting Belichick to be smiling and doing cartwheels giving an interview? C'mon, the guy barely cracks a smile when they win! I haven't heard any whining or finger-pointing like what went on in virtually every opponent locker room after the Pats beat them. They ARE a very classy organization that gives credit where credit is due and don't typically make excuses.

Yes, coach and some players left with :01 to go. Were they aware of the clock? Who knows. Does it really matter? The coaches shook hands at the 50 and it was over. Not as big a deal as some are making it out to be. It boils down to people can't stand someone that is successful. We'd rather see an accomplished winner fall than anything else. Pretty warped if you ask me.

18-1 is still one more win than the perfect 72 Dolphins. They broke almost every record there is this year. Without a doubt, this was an incredible year for the Pats and I would take this exact same line up again next year without a single change (except for Ellis Hobbs).

Ben,

I understand what you are saying and I won't argue too much, lol! My perspective is a little different than most on here bashing. I'm not a football guy. Basically if the Steelers aren't playing, I don't really watch. I also don't watch every Steeler game. I watch enough to sound OK around the water cooler. So, I have no idea how Belichick racts all the time. I can say that still don't agree with with how he and some of his team closed the game. This is a huge national stage and I think he should have been a bit more professional. How, I'm not sure. But for a "Non_Football Fan" it looked poor. You can not take away what they did accomplish. They did bring some on themselves with the whole video tape thing. Just my 2 cents.

Later,

[Hdesign]

I've never seen a Superbowl or any world championship game in any sport where the losing team stuck around at the end of the game except for a few individuals. They were giving the field to the Giants to rightfully celebrate. If they knowingly left the field early in some sort of protest or immature fit that is the complete opposite of everything this team has always done win or lose. That's just not their style and it would be a complete shock. I've watched this team win and lose big games since the Kraft's ownership and Belichick's career here...it's extremely, extremely uncharacteristic. Bob Kraft simply wouldn't put up with it if it were true. I have yet to see any discussion about it anywhere except here.

If there is one thing this team can't be accused of it's lack of class.

Chad, I have no doubt that the Spy Gate episode changed the perspective of many people. They did something wrong (like every single other team in the league), got caught (made an example of) and paid a major, major, major penalty. The NFL was right to penalize them. After that, the Pats shut up and played superior football all year. They took things very personally and had more to prove than anyone else. Every team they faced talked smack before the game and it only fueled them to win.

[Garage Dog 65]

The game clock had already hit zero when the coach started walking across the field to shake hands. Then the crowds came on the field - so I honestly think they felt the game was over when they left the field.

[HRBS]

I have yet to see any discussion about it anywhere except here.

Not to spread salt in the wound :unibrow:
ps... love ya Ben !

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/nfl_experts/post/If-he-s-going-to-lose-Bill-Belichick-would-rath;_ylt=AlTbOcR5J7ufGFgVEENGSvE5nYcB?urn=nfl,649 71

[Rybar]

18-1 is still one more win than the perfect 72 Dolphins. They broke almost every record there is this year. Without a doubt, this was an incredible year for the Pats and I would take this exact same line up again next year without a single change (except for Ellis Hobbs).

Yeah, but too bad they still lost THE most important game. :_paranoid Bilichick taking off with 1 second left at the end of the game did look pretty classless to me. But that's just my opinion.

Sorry Ben, I mainly hate the Pats cause they beat the Rams in 01. :P

[Hdesign]

No apologies necessary. :D This was the same game as the Rams with the roles reversed for the Pats. It's understandable. I've got my S-list of teams just like anyone else....many have no logical reason for hating them. I just always have.

Trust me, if there's a town that knows what it's like to be beaten by another frequent champ team it's Boston. Pitchers and Catchers in Ft. Meyers in 2 weeks!!

As for leaving the game early...again...whatever the actual reason, it's not Belichick's style, he just doesn't do that. There has to be more to it. Prime example: Randy Moss prior to the Pats was a loudmouth prima donna. He still may be a prima donna but he keeps it to himself a lot better than in the past. That's because the organization doesn't put up with it at all.

[Rybar]

No worries the Rams used to be terrible, then one of the best and now back in the gutter :lol:

But it was also kinda nice seeing Brady getting flattened on his ass 5 or 6 times. :lol:

[Hdesign]

Yeah, the O-line looked like one of those restaurant swinging doors to the kitchen. Matt Light had the worst game of his career I think.

[steemin]

I want to pre-empt my comments by stating that the New England Patriots are a great football team. And obviously their success in recent years is impressive:bow:
However one thing that I find interesting in regards to the Patriots is that generally speaking outside of their "home" area they are not well respected.
(I am not talking about team pride or jealousy) As a matter of fact there are many fans of the NFL that despise the Patriots.
On the other hand teams like the 70's Steelers and the 90's 49ers were
well respected teams back in the day and still are today.
I believe that this respect factor has everything to do with an organizations culture.
And unfortunately for the New England Patriots and more importantly their fans, they have made themselves an easy target by the way that they have conducted themselves as a professional football team.
Scott

[mazspeed]

puts the pats down because they should not be considered the best ever? how can you make an argument other then losing last night about not being the best ever? i didn't hate the 49ers when they were a dynasty in the late 80s early 90s, i liked them as I do the pats.
the giants played great, and they had some lucky catches, which is whats needed to win, and they did that, however to rag on the pats is crazy.

You cannot consider the Pats as one of the best ever if they cannot finish the biggest game of the year, no matter their record, bottom line. Their coach is an ahole and he seems to not know what the word "class" and "fair play" is all about. That's why they are hated, not because of their record.

[68protouring454]

ok,lol you know what opinions are like right??? lol

[mazspeed]

ok,lol you know what opinions are like right??? lol

lol lol Indeed I do lol lol

[Beegs]

Along with politics...maybe we should ban sports discussions...lol :lol:

[bucks69]

:fire: somebody grab the popcorn!!!!!! LOL
I am pullin up a chair for this one...

[mazspeed]

Along with politics...maybe we should ban sports discussions...lol :lol:

Naaa, sports conversation is healthy fun.

[Hdesign]

I just don't get the Belichick and/or players conduct themselves like "classless" or "a-hole" comments. Belichick is quiet to a fault, unemotional, reserved and direct. His interviews are insanely dry whether it's a win or loss. That trickles down to every player that gets behind the mic, even Moss. Credit is ALWAYS given to the other team regardless of their often evident lack of class prior and after the game. However, I suppose if you only hear sound bites on ESPN or your local sports cast you may hear a message that conveys something completely different. The only time I have ever heard a remotely negative comment uttered from a press conference or locker room interview was a comment defending accusations from teams they beat.

I mean, I'm not delusional enough to think I can convince people to love them, everyone should have pride in their own team but some of this stuff is pretty bold and unfounded.

I, for one, am not trying to take this thread too seriously, it's sports. Maybe it sounds that way but it's really not a big deal. It's not like someone saying Chevys are a POS....then the gloves come off!:D

[HRBS]

I just read that Tom Brady and Randy Moss both declined their invitation to the Pro Bowl following the Patriots SuperBowl loss. WTF ?

[Hdesign]

I heard that yesterday too. Both are "claiming" ankle injuries. Don't know if I believe Moss....he's got a legal battle coming up so....

http://www.patriots.com/search/index.cfm?ac=searchdetail&pid=30848&pcid=43&rss=1

[Beegs]

Naaa, sports conversation is healthy fun.

I was kidding......:thumbsup:

[camcojb]

I just don't get the Belichick and/or players conduct themselves like "classless" or "a-hole" comments. Belichick is quiet to a fault, unemotional, reserved and direct. His interviews are insanely dry whether it's a win or loss. That trickles down to every player that gets behind the mic, even Moss. Credit is ALWAYS given to the other team regardless of their often evident lack of class prior and after the game. However, I suppose if you only hear sound bites on ESPN or your local sports cast you may hear a message that conveys something completely different. The only time I have ever heard a remotely negative comment uttered from a press conference or locker room interview was a comment defending accusations from teams they beat.

I mean, I'm not delusional enough to think I can convince people to love them, everyone should have pride in their own team but some of this stuff is pretty bold and unfounded.

I, for one, am not trying to take this thread too seriously, it's sports. Maybe it sounds that way but it's really not a big deal. It's not like someone saying Chevys are a POS....then the gloves come off!:D


Ben,

Belichick absolutely comes off as arrogant, cocky, etc. and that's what seems to keep the "hate" going. I think since they're your team that you view them differently, but coming from a fan of another team he is universally considered a jerk on every football board I'm on. Talented, yes, but like he's doing you a favor to even talk to you. Then when the whole spygate deal came up, and now with the senate probe and the ex-employee going to testify it just fuels the fire.

I'm sure a lot of the dislike comes from jealousy to a point, he and the team are very successful. But, in my opinion, he brings a lot of it on himself with the way he acts, talks, etc.

Jody

[Ssynister13]

I just read that Tom Brady and Randy Moss both declined their invitation to the Pro Bowl following the Patriots SuperBowl loss. WTF ?

It's the O-line that should be ashamed to go. This will basically be punishment for the guys elected to the team...play like S in the biggest game of the year and suck, then have to go to the ProBowl. They must be so embarrased to be even walk onto that field in Hawaii.

As far as congress investigating anything in sports...dont you think the country has a couple other MAJOR issues going on that could use some attention from these Senetors? Let MLB and the NFL handle themselves.

[Hdesign]

I can see the point that he's not a likable, outgoing guy, he's got the personality of a grapefruit. I also know that from personal experience quiet people are often mistaken for arrogant, that's no surprise. He's not the type of guy I would have a beer with honestly. He drives us ALL nuts here because of that. However, his job is to coach a team though, not to be a PR expert.

As for Spy gate, it's like getting caught speeding. Everyone does it and when you get caught all you can do is say, "Yep, I was going too fast, you caught me." You did something wrong, you got caught,you pay the fine and move on. He didn't make a big deal out of it, he just got back to work. And yes, he and the Pats did have something to prove so they played the next several games with a chip on their shoulder.

Don Shula of the 72 Dolphins was infamous for his "interpretation of league rules". Eric Mangini got caught by the Ravens cheating the week after Mangini outed his former boss! Roger Goodell also made it clear that there is a reason why in professional sports, dummy calls are made, fake signs are sent from the sidelines, coaches cover their mouths while calling in plays, opponents cheat. It's common practice and common knowledge. It's unfortunately part of the game. The Pats were on top of the pile and were the perfect team to be made an example of, it apparently worked for now.

Belichick's personality, or lack thereof, and jealousy are really the only things I can attribute to everyone's animosity. Maybe he should hire a PR guy to talk for him. I dunno, I'll have to wait to see what it's like when he moves on from New England to coach another team. Maybe I'll feel the same as everyone else.