Checking interest \ value

[chrismoe]

Hello all,

Hope everyone is well. The purpose of this post is to check interested and perhaps assess the value of my 68 pro-tour Camaro. As some of you may know, I bought this car from a forum member a few months back. It was almost done and almost perfect when I got it. It is now "done". Tracy, the builder, did a terrific job building the car. The only "problem" was some welds on the 4-bar rear end did not fully penetrate so I had all of the welds ground off and re-welded. Since owning the Camaro I have done small things like slap on a Marquez Design billet gas cap, replace the front seats, have the trunk upholstered in a body color matching scheme, have the alternator replaced and had the car Dyno tuned. You may remember a post form me a few months back where I was jumping out of my chair after seeing the car made 638 ft. lbs. of torque and 593 HP AT THE REAR WHEELS!

At any rate, the car is beautiful, monstrously fast, reliable and just a killer car. All that said, I am already bored and thinking about moving on to another car (for those of you who know me, you know I have this sickness). So, I was hoping to measure interest in this car both from a dollar as well as a trade perspective. At the risk of posting the longest thread in the history of Lateral-G.net, here is some details on the Camaro as well as a link to an Internet picture hosting site with loads of pictures of the car. I also have some small Quicktime videos so you can hear the car. If you would, could you scan the attached document and take a look at the pictures and let me know what you think? Any input would be very welcome.

Camaro Details:

BODY \ PAINT: COMPLETLY RUST FREE BODY. THE CAMARO HAS ALL OF ITS ORIGINAL PANELS/DOORS AND WAS A GREAT DONOR CAR TO START WITH. THE PREVIOUS OWNER HAD THE CAR PAINTED A COUPLE YEARS AGO BUT THE CAMARO NEVER SAW THE LIGHT OF DAY AS IT WAS A PROJECT WITH NO END IN SIGHT. IT HAS A BEAUTIFUL, TWO STAGE PAINT JOB (BURIED IN HIGH-QUALITY CLEAR) AND IS SEBRING SILVER WITH BLACK STRIPES. THE FIREWALL WAS FLUSHED WITH A DETROIT SPEED AND ENGINEERING PLATE. THE FLOOR WAS COVERED WITH SOUND DEADENING MATERIAL TO KEEP THE SOUND AND HEAT TO A MINIMUM. ADDED MARQUEZ DESIGN BILLET GAS CAP. THE BODY IS VERY STRAIGHT AND ALL GAPS LINE UP GREAT.

MINITUB: PROFESSIONALLY DONE AND IT LOOKS GREAT!! THE DETROIT SPEED AND ENGINEERING WHEEL TUBS LOOK LIKE THEY CAME FROM GM EXCEPT FOR THE FACT THAT THEY HOUSE HUGE 335/30 MICHELIN PILOTS.
REAR SUSPENSION: THE REAR WAS UPDATED WITH THE LATEST TRICK SUSPENSION, ALSON CHASSISWORKS G-BAR. THE G-BAR IS A CANTED FOUR BAR REAR SUSPENSION THAT IS LIGHT YEARS AHEAD OF STOCK LEAF SPRINGS. THIS TRICK SUSPENSION USES VARISHOCK QS1 ALUMINUM COILOVERS THAT ARE ADJUSTABLE AND ALSO ALLOW EASY CHANGES IN RIDE HEIGHT.

FRONT STEERING/SUSPENSION: THE FRONT /STEERING/SUSPENSION WAS UPDATED WITH A TON OF TRICK PARTS: FULLY ADJUSTABLE TUBULAR UPPER CONTROL ARMS, SCREW IN HOWE NASCAR TALL BALL JOINTS, GLOBAL WEST COIL SPRINGS, BILSTEIN FRONT SHOCKS, HUGE HOCHKIS SWAY BAR, KRC ALUMINUM POWER STEERING PUMP, KRC REMOTE ALUMINUM RESERVIOR, HIGH PRESSURE STAINLESS BRAIDED LINES AND A QUICK RATIO POWER STEERING BOX. THE BODY IS MOUNTED TO THE CHASSIS WITH SOLID BODY MOUNTS AND THE FRAME IS TIED TOGETHER WITH GLOBAL WEST SUB FRAME CONNECTORS. THE HANDLING ON THIS CAMARO IS ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS!

ENGINE: THIS IS A CUSTOM PRO BUILT 580 ci MOTOR. BUILT BY rebirdraceengines.com. THIS IS NOT A GM CRATE MOTOR! THIS CUSTOM BUILT BULLET HAS A DIFFERENT BORE/STROKE COMBO THAN A GM CRATE MOTOR, 4.5" STROKE x 4.53" BORE. THE LONGER STROKE PROVIDES MORE TORQUE AND MORE HORSEPOWER AT A USABLE STREET RPM. THIS STREET MOTOR IS FULL OF KILLER PARTS AND OF COURSE RUNS ON PUMP GAS WITH NO ISSUES BECAUSE OF ITS MILD COMPRESSION OF 10:1. THE BOTTOM END IS ALL 4340 STEEL AND THE BLOCK IS A MERLIN II. THE HEADS ARE FULLY PORTED DART ALUMINUM HEADS TOPPED OFF WITH A FULLY PORTED DART INTAKE AND A TRICKED OUT AED 950 HP HOLLEY CARB. THE VALVE TRAIN IS HANDLED BY A COMP CAMS ROLLER SHAFT, COMP CAMS ROLLER LIFTERS, COMP CAMS STAINLESS FULL ROLLER ROCKERS, COMP CAMS PUSHRODS AND AN ALUMINIUM STUD GIRDLE. THE IGNITION IS A FULL MSD SYSTEM WITH A PRO BILLET DISTRIBUTOR, MSD BLASTER III COIL, MSD 6M BOX AND MSD PLUG WIRES. THE CAR WAS DYNO TUNED BY A WLL KNOWN SPEED SHOP IN SAN JOSE, CA. I HAVE DYNO SHEET THAT SHOW THIS CAR MAKE 638 FT. LBS. OR TOURQUE AND 593 HP AT THE REAR WHEELS. AND, IT IDLES AT 900 RPM, RUNS COOL AND IS A *****CAT UNTIL YOU ROMP ON IT. THE DYNO IS FROM NEW ZEALAND AND TO THE DYNO MNAUFACTUERE ANY DRIVE WHEEL IS A FLOYWHEEL SO PLEASE DO NOT BE CONFUSED BY THAT PORTION OF THE DYNO PICTURE. IF YOU LOOK AT THE PICTURE IT ACTUALLY SAYS CHASSIS DYNO. AS I HAD HOPED, THE CAMARO IS REALLY QUICK AND CAN KILL THE REAR TIRES AT WILL.

EXHAUST: THE HEADERS ARE HIGH DOLLAR COATED DYNATECH PIPES CONNECTED TO A 3" SPINTECH EXHAUST SYSTEM. THE MUFFLERS ARE LARGE SPINTECH XL TO KEEP THE NEIGHBORS AND COPS A LITTLE HAPPIER. THERE ARE CURRENTLY NO TAILPIPES PAST THE REAREND SO IT DOES HAVE A WICKED SOUND.

TRANSMISSION/CLUTCH: THE TRANNY IS A TKO 600 5 SPEED WITH A .64 OVERDRIVE. THE FIVE SPEED OFFERS SUPER QUICK RATIOS FOR DRIVING IN TOWN AND A BIG OVERDRIVE FOR HIGHWAY CRUISING. THE TRANNY MATES TO THE BIG MOTOR WITH A SFI STEEL FLYWHEEL, THE CLUTCH DUTIES ARE HANDLED BY A KILLER MCLEOD UNIT (SMOOTTH WITH NO CHATTER) AND THE BELLHOUSING IS A MCLEOD SFI BLOWPROOF HOUSING. THE CLUTCH IS ACTUATED BY A TILTON HYDRAULIC CLUTCH MASTER AND A MCLEOD HYDRAULIC THROWOUT BEARING. THE SMOOTH HYDRAULIC CLUTCH ALLOWS YOU TO RUN A MUCH STRONGER CLUTCH ON THE STREET WITHOUT BURNING DOWN YOUR LEG AT EVERY STOP LIGHT.

REAREND: THE REAR IS A FULL BLOWN MOSER ENGINEERING 12 BOLT WITH 33 SPLINE AXLES, 3.73 GEAR, 1350 YOKE, 1/2" STUDS AND BIG FORD HOUSING ENDS. THE REAR IS BULLETPROOF AND READY FOR YOU RIGHT FOOT!

BRAKES: THE BRAKES CONSISTS OF A COMPLETE WILWOOD DISK BRAKE SYSTEM WITH A PARKING BRAKE. ALL ROTORS ARE DRILLED, SLOTTED AND COATED FOR KILLER LOOKS. THE MASTER CYLINDER IS AN ALUMINUM WILWOOD PIECE THAT DEPRESSES EASILY AND PROVIDES A GREAT FEEL FOR THE ROAD. THE CAR STOPS ON A DIME AND THE BRAKES ARE VERY QUIET (NO SQUEACKS). ALL LINES THAT CARRY FLUID ARE STEEL BRAIDED. THE PARKING BRAKE CABLES ARE MADE BY LOKAR AND PROVIDE A VERY SMOOTH ENGAGEMENT AND DO NOT HANG BELOW THE EXHAUST LIKE THE FACTORY SYSTEM.

WHEELS/TIRES: THE WHEELS ARE A BEAUTIFUL THREE PIECE DESIGN BY FORGELINE AND ARE THE ULTIMATE FOR A STREET CAR. THE WHEELS HAVE POLISHED, DEEP LIPS AND FORGED ALUMINUM CENTERS COLORED IN GUN METAL. THE GUN METAL COLOR REALLY BOUNCES WELL OFF OF THE SEBRING SILVER PAINT. THE WHEELS ARE 18x8.5 FRONT AND 18x12 REAR WITH 335/30 MICHELIN PILOT SPORT TIRES.

COOLING/PULLEYS: THE COOLING CHORES ARE HANDLED BY A HUGE C&R NASCAR BRAND RADIATOR. THE SYSTEM IS COMPLETE WITH AN OVERFLOW/RECOVERY SYSTEM, TWIN ELECTRIC FANS AND AN ALUMINUM WATER PUMP. THE SERPINTENE PULLEYS ARE POLISHED ALUMINUM FROM KRC AND LOOK GREAT. THE CAMARO RUNS COOL IN TOWN OR ON THE HWY. IT NORMALLY CRUISES AT 180 DEGREES. AND ON A HOT 90+ WILL CREEP UP TO 190 IN BUMPER TO BUMPER TRAFFOIC THEN GO RIGHT BACK DOWN TO 180 OR LESS ONCE YOU START MOVING.

INTERIOR: THE INTERIOR IS ALL NEW AND COMPLETE WITH A CENTER CONSOLE, CARPET, NEW SKINS, DASH, PACKAGE TRAY, HEADLINER, DOOR PANELS, MOMO LEATHER STEERING WHEEL, VINTAGE AIR A/C AND HEATER, AND FULL OF AUTOMETER ULTRA LITE QAUGES. SEATS ARE VERY COOL PRO-CAR \ SCAT PRO-RALLEY SEATS THAT ARE VERTICALLY STICHED TO MATCH THE REAR SEAT, HAVE GREAT LUMBAR AND MATCH THSI CAR PERFECT. I ALSO HAD THE TRUNK UNPOSLTERED IN A COLOR MATCHING SCHEME. THE SPEEDO IS A PROGRAMABLE 5" ELECTRIC GAUGE WITH DIGITAL ODOMETER. THE FOUR GAUGES IN THE CENTER CONSOLE INCLUDE A CLOCK, FUEL, OIL PRESSURE AND WATER TEMP. THE SHIFTER BOOT IS A NASCAR SFI NOMEX BOOT AND OFFERS A COOL ALTERNATIVE TO THE BORING RUBBER STYLE.

There is much more to tell but that should give you some basics. I took the car it to Goodies Speed Shop (www.goodies-speedsop.com) here in San Jose for a once over and for Dyno tuning. They can serve as a great reference for this car.

Here is a link to that online picture hosting site. To really see pictures of this car you need to click on any one picture to start a slide show of 5X8 sized pictures and then once inside the slide show you can click on any 5X8 picture to see it full size. Some of the pictures of the trunk are before I had it upholstered and some of the pictures of the engine are before the Vintage Air Heat and Cooling was added. You may have to cut this link out of this document and paste it into your browser but it will get you to the picture hosting site. Here is the link:

http://www.fototime.com/inv/A6B3CADC6D37356

Thanks in advance :bow:
Chris

[mazspeed]

Hey Chris, Let me see the car. You have time this week?

[awr68]

Looks like it turned out great Chris!!
What do you want to build next?

[Flash68]

Awesome car! :thumbsup:

Where are those quicktime videos? :)

[Stuart Adams]

How much ground clearance do you have with the oil pan and headers? Cool car.

[awr68]

Not picking it appart at all but this caught my attention, Is the bottom of the rear coil overs really as low as they look in the pics...if so thats pretty unsafe! Not to mention illegal if they are below the bottom of the wheel...

[chrismoe]

Anthony,

Thanks for the kind words on my car. I wish I could take all the credit for how nice the car tuned out. Almost all the credit goes to Tracy. As for ground clearance and the rear coil overs. Yes, they look low but they do not sit below the wheel at their lowest point. Clearance is not an issue at all. As for what I hope to get into next, I am pretty open but perhaps a Mustang or even another Camaro.

Mike,

I am around after work most of the week. And, the weather is finally supposed to be clearing up. What day are you thinking?

Stuart,

No clearance problems with the oil pan but the headers are low. I do not scrape at all during normal or even spirited driving but I drive up steep driveways sideways. Same with speed bumps. Also, not rub from the tires (of course).

Flash68,

Thanks for the kind words. And, hopefully these small Quicklime videos will work. They come from my girlfriends phone so the quality sucks but at least you can hear how quickly this car grabs revs. Pretty cool considering it makes so much HP this Camaro makes. If the videos do not work PM me with your email address and I will email them to you. Last word on this...turn up your speakers because the audio is quiet, and, because it sounds good loud.:thumbsup:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ey0bZDGXooU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wfu_tLq3aag

Take care,
Chris

[Flash68]

Chris, thanks for posting those videos. Awesome sound and amazing throttle response it sounds like.

I assume that is the direct kit from Spintech is what is on there? With the Sportsman XL muffs? I am thinking of getting the same kit for mine. That sounds great.

Good luck if you decide to sell it. Not sure what it would bring on the open market, but I would be willing to bet ebay or even BJ would bring you your top dollar. Never hurts to throw it on ebay with a pretty high reserve just to test the market. You have such a great parts list there it could bring big $.

Thanks again.

[chrismoe]

Flash68,

Yea, they are Spin Tech's Sportmans XL's. They sound wicked in person.

Take care,
Chris

[mazspeed]

Mike,

I am around after work most of the week. And, the weather is finally supposed to be clearing up. What day are you thinking?


Take care,
Chris

Tomorrow anytime. You interested in another cool camaro, or a cool built up 57 Bel Air?
What's on your mind as far as trades go?

[chrismoe]

Mike,

We could meet at my place around 4:30 tiday (Monday) if that can work for you. Just let me know. I will PM you my address.

As for trades.....I am pretty open. Or I may just sell the car and look around.

Chris

[MarkM66]

I like it. What alternator, power steering pump, pulleys and brackets are you using? And what steering box are you using?

[chrismoe]

MarM66,

Hope you are well. The pulleys and brackets are from KRC, and are polished. The power steering pump is a KRC aluminum pump with a KRC remote reservoir. Finally, the system uses a quick ratio steering box and all lines are braided. I think in 1 of the pictures on the Internet picture hosting site there is a close up of the remote setup. I have also attached a picture of the remote reservoir as well as the power steeering pump to this post. Both of these pictures were taken before the Vintage Air \ Cooling was added. It is a cool setup. Here is a link to KRC's website:

http://www.krcpower.com/

The alternator is a Power Master 140 amp., 1 wire.

Take care,
Chris

[mazspeed]

Thanks for the hospitality tonight Chris. Ill take you up on that beer, anytime. :thumbsup:
On a side note, he is selling this car, and it's bad ass. It's a f***ing steal at the price he has it, and you could not build it for this price. He got a great deal on it, and is looking to pass that same deal on. He did some fix it-mod work done, now it's perfect and ready to go. If I had the money, the car would be in my garage tonight. It sounds nasty and it is sweet. For $75k someone should be snapping this thing up right away. Best car for the price I have seen in years. If only I had the money.

[awr68]

Yeah...but did you like it Mike? :lol: :cheers:

Does sound like a great price!!

[mazspeed]

Yeah...but did you like it Mike? :lol: :cheers:

Does sound like a great price!!


Yep, liked it lots. :P

[chrismoe]

Mike,

Nice to finally meet you. And, thanks for the kind words on my Camaro.

Take care,
Chris

[chrismoe]

To start, Moderators, I plan to only have this post up for just one more day so I hope it is OK to have it here, in the Open Discussion section, since the thread started here and member are looking for it here in this section. If not, please let me know.

Fellow Lateral-g members,

Here is the deal with selling my Camaro. A pretty well known shop in the mid west that I have dealt with before has offered me $72,000 for my Camaro. Their plan is to transport it to their shop and flip it for a profit. Makes sense, that is their business. They plan on asking $80,000 or so for the car. And with their reputation, list of clients and how nice this car is, I think they will get that pretty easy. If possible, I would like to sell this Camaro to an end-user, preferably a lateral-g or pro-touring.com member. Nothing against this dealer or any other classic car dealer, Just feels more appropriate to sell this car to an end user. I got a great deal on this car and would like to pass that same deal onto another car guy or gal. I have to \ want to move quickly so here is the deal.

I will sell the car to there first person who can come up with $71,000. Considering the extensive parts list and work in this car (read the initial post as well as some follow up posts in this thread for more details), its condition (great), how fresh it is (350 MILES), how fast it is (638 ft. lbs of torque and 593 HP at the rear wheels) and the fact that it is a freaking awesome car, that is a screaming deal for someone. But again, I need to move ASAP.

So, PM me right away or call me on my cell at (650) 888-7520 right away if you are interested.

By the way, I added a few pictures to the Internet hosting site. 1 is a shot of the Camaro in the driveway as me and some friends get ready to take the dirt bikes out on Christmas day. I like this shot because the Camaro is not "staged" but still looks great. The other new shot is a detail shot of the upholstered trunk. I spend some time and money getting that right so I wanted to show some of that detail. The newly added pictures are at the bottom of the page. The link to this Internet picture hosting site is still the same as I listed in my first post.

Remember, to really see pictures of this car you need to click on any one picture to start a slide show of 5X8 sized pictures and then once inside the slide show you can click on any 5X8 picture to see it full size. Some of the pictures of the trunk are before I had it upholstered and some of the pictures of the engine are before the Vintage Air Conditioning and Heat and was added. You may have to cut this link out of this document and paste it into your browser but it will get you to the picture hosting site. Here is the link:

http://www.fototime.com/inv/A6B3CADC6D37356

So, that is the scoop. Please contact me right away if interested.

Thanks and take care,
Chris

[Bowtieracing]

Hello Chris,

I want to agree with rest of the gang and say your car is totally awsome. I am sure it will sell quickly. I read your post and you wrote at the color is sebring silver. Is that C5 corvettes stock sebring silver? If you dont mind i would like to use same color.:cheers:

[chrismoe]

Bowtieracing,

Yes, the color is c5 Sebring Silver and I think it would be fine if you used the same color.

Take care,
Chris

[chrismoe]

Folks,

Thanks for the questions about the Camaro. I have received quite a few about the rims so I thought I would post a thread for all to see.

The rims are Forgeline SP3P's. They have a chrome lip with gun metal gray centers. The fronts are 18 X 8.5 and the rears are 18 X 12. And, with the DSE mini tub the rear tires are 335 pilot sports. Here is a link to Forgelines web site:

http://www.forgeline.com/

I took a quick (garage) shot of the rear rim and posted it on the same Internet picture hosting site with the other pics of the Camaro. It is at the bottom. Here is that link again:

http://www.fototime.com/inv/A6B3CADC6D37356

Chris

[Stuart Adams]

Cool car. Bet it scoots too.

[chrismoe]

Stuart,

Thanks. And yes, it flat flies.

Chris

[Sales@Dutchboys]

Very cool car...You like Nova's??? LOL :lol:


Paul

[chrismoe]

Paul,

I am not really a Nova fan, I hope I did not offend anyone - just not my favorite body style, but your car is pretty cool. What did you have in mind?

Chris

[TexasDvlDog]

i thought that loooong list of goodies looked familiar! :unibrow:

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/car/564351737.html

[uthustler]

how much are you asking?

Please email me, very interested.

[email protected]

[chrismoe]

uthustler,

Matt, is this you? If so, I just responded to your PM and I just sent you an email to your Yahoo email account. I am asking $67,500. I believe I put the asking price at the bottom of the ad.

Take care,
Chris

[mazspeed]

$67500?? That's a $100 grand car, why are you dropping the price? That's a steal at that price.

[chrismoe]

Mike,

Hope you are well. The reaosn I am selling the Camaro so cheap is I have a chance to buy back another 68 Camaro that I built that has real sentimental value to me so I am selling this one very cheap so I can sell it fast. I got a great deal on this Camaro, and then had some work done to finish it, and somone else will get a great deal to.

Chris

[mazspeed]

Mike,

Hope you are well. The reaosn I am selling the Camaro so cheap is I have a chance to buy back another 68 Camaro that I built that has real sentimental value to me so I am selling this one very cheap so I can sell it fast. I got a great deal on this Camaro, and then had some work done to finish it, and somone else will get a great deal to.

Chris

Which car is it? Was the picture in the garage? The blue one or the red one? If you don't sell it, I should have mine back for the weekend, we can hang out. My wife wants to go on a drive somewhere with it. If you have it by this weekend and if I get mine, Ill call you.

[chrismoe]

Mike,

The Camaro is sold. It will be picked up tomorrow and is headed to the mid-west. And yes, the car I was trying to reacquire was one of the pictures on my garage wall. Unfortunately, the current owner just decided he is not interested in selling it back to me after all. I learned about this after I committed to the sale of my silver and black Camaro so it was too late to decide to keep it. At least not without pulling the rug out from underneath the buyer which I would not do. So, I am starting my search for a replacement car.

If you or anyone else knows of a nice pro-tour and\or muscle car for sale please let me know.

Thanks,
Chris

[uthustler]

dang, please tell me a 'flipper' didnt buy it?

[chrismoe]

Matt,

Do you mean a car dealer?

Chris

[uthustler]

Matt,

Do you mean a car dealer?

Chris

yea, did you sell it to a dealer? Im gonna be sick I didnt fly out monday to see you if you did.

[mazspeed]

Hey Chris, sorry to hear you sold the car, but I knew it was not going to stay sold long. What are you looking for? I know of a few cars (not here) for sale that might be cool to you, depending on what your taste is at the moment. Are you just sort of looking to see what peeks your interest?

[chrismoe]

Matt,

Yes. I did sell the car to a dealer. Sorry man. But, this particular dealership is owned and operated by a great, car oriented, family. I have purchased cars from them before and received a fair deal. I will let the new owner introduce themselves.

Sorry things did not work out Matt.

Take care,
Chris

[uthustler]

Matt,

Yes. I did sell the car to a dealer. Sorry man. But, this particular dealership is owned and operated by a great, car oriented, family. I have purchased cars from them before and received a fair deal. I will let the new owner introduce themselves.

Sorry things did not work out Matt.

Take care,
Chris

oh, ok, well, if they are reputable then that is cool. how much do they plan to sell it for?

[chrismoe]

Mike,

Yea, that is exactly what I am doing...just poking around. Since the opportunity to buy back my yellow Camaro fell through I am just looking around. So, if you know of some nice cars please let me know.

Thanks,
Chris

[chrismoe]

Matt,

I am not sure. It may be the case that the new owner keeps the car for a while as his cruise in \ show car and then sells it. But, like I said, they seem to price their cars very fair so I would assume they would do the same with this car.

The new owner visits this forum so I am sure he will see this thread and perhaps you 2 can connect.

Chris

[Stuart Adams]

Congrats, cool car.

[mazspeed]

You have a budget for your next car Chris?
I'm trying very very hard to get one of my customers to give up his all original 32 ford roadster. He's 85 and has had it in his gargae for 50 years, but keeps thinking he's going to restore it. He's getting sorta close, but my dad really want's the car. I had another one in mind for you though, just don't know how much you want to spend.

[chrismoe]

Hello all,

Some of you know I recently sold my 68 Camaro because I was looking to reacquire another 68 Camaro that I had built that had sentimental value to me. Well, that did not work out but I was able to find a car that I think I will be very happy with. I just bought Jeff Skelton's 64 Chevelle. This car was posted on lateral-g in nearly finished form about a year ago. Since then, it was finished and has had some additional work done. It is much more of a show car than the Camaro but that is OK with me at this time. The car has only been shown twice, both shows in SoCal. At any rate, here are some quick specs on the car:

Drive Train

-ZZ4 355 V-8 with Twin Turbo

-Twin RayJay T4 Turbochargers

-Intercooler

-BBK Power Plus Fuel Injection System

-Edelbrock Aluminum Heads

-Aluminum Intake Manifold

-Polished Aluminum Valve Covers

-Twin K&N Filters

-Custom Aluminum Radiator

-Chrome Powermaster Alternator

-MSD Distributor

-MSD Blaster Coil

-MSD Ignition System

-MSDPlugWires

-Hi-Torque Starter

-Polished Water Pump

-Polished Sanden Air Conditioning Compressor

-Saginaw 605 Power Steering Box

-Custom Steel Flowmaster Exhaust System

Transmission

-Tremec T56-6 Speed Manual Transmission

-Centerforce Clutch Assembly

-Hydraulic Clutch

-Custom Transmission Pan

-Custom Driveshaft

-Custom Transmission Tunnel

-10 Bolt Rear End -3.36 Gears


Exterior

-2 Stage Viper Red Paint (painted with Spies-Heckler paint)

-Antiglare Windshield

-Chrome Wipers

-Tinted Glass

-Chrome Side Mirrors

-Chrome Front Bumper

-Chrome Front Grille

-Chrome Rear Bumper

-Stock Rear Lights

-Halogen Headlights


Interior

-Custom Black Front & Rear Seats With Red Stitching

-Black Suede Headliner

-Black Suede Sun Visors

-Black Suede Door Panels

-Black Side & Kick Panels

-Black Rear Shelf

-Black Wool Carpets

-Fisher Carpet Rocker Panel Trim

-Stock Dash With Custom Black Leather Trim

-Custom Black Instrument Cluster

-Billet Specialties Steering Wheel

-Autometer Gauges

-Lokar Pedals

-Custom Shifter

-Polished Billet Knobs & Controls

-Power Windows

-Clarion CD Head Unit

-Custom Speaker System


Suspension


-Air Ride Technology Front & Rear Airbags

-Custom Air Ride Billet Front Shocks

-KYB Rear Shocks

-Remote Air Bag Control Panel

-On Board Air Suspension Tank

-On Board Air Suspension Compressor


Wheels, Tires & Brakes

-20x10.5 Billet Specialties Rear Wheels

-18x7 Billet Specialties Front Wheels

-Continental Sport Contact 2 ‘Z’ Rated Tires

-Slotted & Drilled Rotors

-Vented Front Disc Brakes

-Rear Disc Brakes

-Baer Calipers


Also, here are some recent pictures of the car. Like before, you will need to click on any one of these pictures to start a slide show of 5 X 8 pictures then you can click on any one picture to see it full screen.

http://www.fototime.com/inv/3AD591C35640087

At present the car makes about 600 HP with it's Tom Nelson built, twin turbo 355 SBC running at 5 PSI. Tom forged all of the internals so I plan to kick up the PSI to about 7 and then be set.

Take care,
Chris

[uthustler]

who bought your old camaro? they got a website?

so is this car for sale now or are you just sharing what you got?:)

[chrismoe]

Matt,

Hey. Hope you are well. No, this car is not for sale. It is not even at my house yet!. It arrives Monday afternoon. I plan to keep this car for a bit.

And, you have a PM about the silver and black Camaro.

Chris

[uthustler]

Matt,

Hey. Hope you are well. No, this car is not for sale. It is not even at my house yet!. It arrives Monday afternoon. I plan to keep this car for a bit.

And, you have a PM about the silver and black Camaro.

Chris


no pm yet:)

[chrismoe]

Matt,

Should be there now.........

Chris

[uthustler]

Matt,

Should be there now.........

Chris


awesome, well enjoy your new ride, it looks badass. I just picked this beauty up, needs some work, but it will be my next pro-touring project. Oh and it's #'s matching.:D

http://www.fototime.com/%7B070C49D7-3B8F-42FA-993B-8BC6A70BABEC%7D/picture.JPG

[chrismoe]

Matt,

Very cool. Nice choice. Because it is a numbers car do you plan to keep your mods to a minimum?

Chis

[uthustler]

Matt,

Very cool. Nice choice. Because it is a numbers car do you plan to keep your mods to a minimum?

Chis


yes, to a minimum. Thinking of pulling the engine/tranny out and putting it in storage. Id like to put a twin turbo setup in it. but here is my major debate--

1) I want a Tremec 5 speed

2) I want to mini-tub it

Im going for this look/stance--

http://www.fototime.com/%7B1A925889-ED19-46AD-A9BF-B93E52014EAC%7D/picture.JPG

do you think either of the above mods would kill its value?

[kp.touring]

Matt,
Cut a 69 Charge 500? They built less than 500 of those cars, they are more Daytonas than 500s I think the Mopar guy's might not be to happy to see 1 made better than stock, but then again most of then are stuck in the '70s.
But if you decide not to cut it up the 500 I've got a line on a real nice 69 383 2 barrel Charger.
All that said yes changing a 69 500 will kill its value or limit who would want to buy it, but it is your car have fun with it, enjoy.

Kevin

[uthustler]

Matt,
Cut a 69 Charge 500? They built less than 500 of those cars, they are more Daytonas than 500s I think the Mopar guy's might not be to happy to see 1 made better than stock, but then again most of then are stuck in the '70s.
But if you decide not to cut it up the 500 I've got a line on a real nice 69 383 2 barrel Charger.
All that said yes changing a 69 500 will kill its value or limit who would want to buy it, but it is your car have fun with it, enjoy.

Kevin


yea, I guess I needed to hear it from someone else. All ill do I guess is yank the motor and tranny, rebuild it to be fairly stout, and leave it alone and cruise it.

[kp.touring]

Matt,
You can do bolt on's like tires, wheels, brakes and suspension upgrades that will improve the car's performance without cutting. I know that you can fit 295/35/18's in the rear fenders on 10" wheels with a little work (rear spring relocation). Personally I dig 500's and would like to someone build one out.

Kevin

[chrismoe]

Matt,

Kevin is much more the expert here, he is in the car biz. And, I agree with him. That was the basis for my original question about keeping your mods to a minimum.

All that said, it is your car and your choice.

If it were me, I would keep it bone stock. Just my opinion.

Chris

[uthustler]

cool, I may just do that. here are some more pics, picking it up next saturday in Tempe, Az.

http://www.fototime.com/%7BE0B29783-9A81-4D46-975D-67DFA6DFB7D3%7D/picture.JPG

http://www.fototime.com/%7B9DCD507A-C63E-4298-AB54-2B38C6F16123%7D/picture.JPG

http://www.fototime.com/%7BCAAFCAC5-5506-4679-B1FC-7DA51B38B0B1%7D/picture.JPG

http://www.fototime.com/%7B621B9FAA-D938-43BE-8443-26496E96FDFC%7D/picture.JPG

[uthustler]

http://www.fototime.com/%7BF7B866D5-05DB-437D-9C9C-AE9E59ABD812%7D/picture.JPG

http://www.fototime.com/%7B86281862-067C-4B69-9872-7F7FC2770179%7D/picture.JPG

http://www.fototime.com/%7BC51B3F95-A3F4-48BB-935B-04FBA120E0E6%7D/picture.JPG


By no means is it perfect, but it is in great shape for sitting for so many years in a garage. Id like to put 17" or 18" wheels on it, yet not really hack on the suspension. how do you think 17" Magnum 500's would look on the car?

[chrismoe]

Matt,

The car looks really good. Has that classic car, original, unmolested look. That is great.

As for wheels and tires, photo shop a few choices and then decide. But, like you said, do not hack the suspension or go too big and rub the body. That car is pretty rare, very original and you want to keep it in good shape.

Chris

[uthustler]

Matt,

The car looks really good. Has that classic car, original, unmolested look. That is great.

As for wheels and tires, photo shop a few choices and then decide. But, like you said, do not hack the suspension or go too big and rub the body. That car is pretty rare, very original and you want to keep it in good shape.

Chris


yea, id like to go Magnum 500's, 17" or 18", but i suck at photoshop so ill have to use my imagination:lol:

[HAULNSS]

Let's see some pictures of the car at it's new home.

Or were you just tire kicking?

[uthustler]

Let's see some pictures of the car at it's new home.

Or were you just tire kicking?

wasnt tire kicking, but deal fell thru.

[HAULNSS]

wasnt tire kicking, but deal fell thru.

Tire Kicker (http://www.ls2.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=617386&perpage=60&pagenumber=1)

It looks like a lot of your deals "fall through". :lol:

:rolleyes:



From the above linked thread....
Originally posted by Nasty Nate
In the spirit of call out threads...

Has he been run off this board like he has EVERYOTHER of the many car boards he's been run off of lately?

Backstory-Claims to make tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands a year on gambling etc...

Always asking for what you think of this car he's about to buy, then the deal always falls through etc.

Just read through a few of the links that have been posted on my local mustang forum.

Claims to have bougt some E55 Mercedes etc...but can't prove it ever...

He constantly claims stuff, makes up stories only to be called out and never prove anything. Classic pathological liar.

http://www.dfwstangs.net/forums/showthread.php?t=352433

http://www.majorwager.com/forums/promotions/7935-re-ut-longhorn-runninhorn-egosportspicks-look.html

http://www.majorwager.com/forums/92805-post2.html

http://www.lateral-g.net/forums/showthread.php4?t=13053

http://www.viperalley.com/forum/viper-discussions-gen-i/35106-will-05-fit-uhaul.html

http://www.howardforums.com/archive/topic/529919-1.html

This one gets fairly decent around 8 or 9 i think...

http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?topic=43387.0

http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w211-e55-amg/1360339-wow-straight-piped-my-06-e55-sounds-awesome-but-now-need-help.html

This posted about the cuda before he "bought" it

http://dfwstangs.net/forums/showthread.php?t=350862



Originally posted by Nasty Nate
So far he's claimed to be a big wig at FedEx...and also a pilot making 180k a year...

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread.php?t=1831863

And he's depressed (imagine that with all the lies etc and having to keep up with all of them...)

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread.php?t=1819545

Anytime he gets called out on anything he disappears ...




Originally posted by Nasty Nate
Damn this guy did more research than me...

He even came in at the end of page 13 on this thread to "defend" himself.

http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?topic=43387.180


WTB 90-93 Mustang Coupe
http://www.corral.net/Forums/showthread.php?t=938191

Motorcycles..............
http://www.tlzone.net/forums/tl1000s-tl1000r-forum/18173-yea-nea-guys-bike-sale.html

4wheelers...........
http://atvfrontier.com/Forums/viewtopic/p=53639.html

Lambo........ ROFL Smiley
http://www.automotiveforums.com/t179033-__s_regarding_financing_my_lambo.html


boats....... Dunno
http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=75&highlight=runninhorn
http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=111929&highlight=runninhorn

Same style way back in 2000.....BMW X5
http://bimmer.roadfly.com/x5/messages/archive/msgsy2000w44/14688.html

And a refresher of others.....

WTB 55 Chevy or 67-69 Camaro"
http://www.lateral-g.net/forums/showthread.php4?t=13053


"WTB 2008 Z06"...http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread.php?p=1563291465#post1563291465

"WTB 335i" http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1821747

"WTB 03 COBRA" http://www.corral.net/forums/showthread.php?t=938255

"Want to lease M5" http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=219755


"WIW Audi" http://www.audiforums.com/m_751780/tm.htm


The 69 Charger 500 thread that got this all started....
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,39864.180.html

Wanted 09 Challenger.....
http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?topic=43986.0


A few more.............


Considering buying place in California.....
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread.php?t=1893236

stuck deciding between "Lexus GS 350 vs. C55 AMG vs. BMW 550i"
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread.php?t=1885123

From way back... Smilielol.."Europe vacation can I ship my motorcycle over"
http://www.zx-10r.net/forum/showthread.php?t=1442

WOW.....
http://www.zx-10r.net/forum/showthread.php?t=1397


Originally posted by stangmus
http://www.aboutmytalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=185263

Looking to buy a McDonalds.

Originally posted by forced347
FWIW, here is a call out thread on CFOT from months ago...he went by the screen name "WTE"

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread.php?t=1807761&highlight=UTHustler


More ownage

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread.php?t=1807417

Another call out from a while back where he was aking about a dozen cars

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showpost.php?p=1560826968&postcount=20


There is much much more...I have known for a long time he was a liar....didn't make a fuss cuz he had a lot of nutswingers here.

Originally posted by forced347
Here he replies to his own thread with a different user name...thread starter WTE (him) and he answers under TexasFedexpilot

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread.php?t=1767697

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread.php?t=1776270

and the other way around.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread.php?t=1676190


It seems his WTE username was used mainly to post questions, not many replies in other threads.

[Vince@Meanstreets]

thanks for the heads up...i almost sold my house. LOL

[rockdogz]

Interesting...:_paranoid

[MarkM66]

WOW! OWNED!

:thmbsdwn: :thmbsdwn: :thmbsdwn: :thmbsdwn:

[Payton King]

as well from some of the threads I saw

[bucks69]

Hustler in the name was enough of a clue? LOL

Keyboard Heros

[buickfunnycar.com]

wonder how he sleeps at night...

[chrismoe]

This guy, uses the name Matt, has sent me several PM's about my 68 Camaro. both before I sold it and since it has been at the dealer who bought it. Seemed like a legitimate guy.

Chris