Dodge Demon Project [Archive]

rjsjea

01-03-2008, 01:12 AM

Thought I'd post my project......I dig this site

71 Dodge Demon
AlterKtion front suspension (QA1 coil overs)
Power rackNpinion
Wilwood Discs (12.2") all fours
Subframe connnectors
Custom roll cage
Tri-4 bar (Varishock coil overs)
Mini tubbed
Whole car was blasted and coated in DP90, and panel/rough body work done

Engine-6.1 hemi
Stock for now

Transmission
Paddle shifted 4l60E

Rear 8 3/4-done
3.55 suregrip

Tires/Wheels...255/35/18's 345/30/19's, Intro ID luxury 301's

Corbeau seats
Rocky Mountain Dash....aluminum w/ Autometer gauges
Ididit column
Vintage Air GenII

Smoothed/Shaved---firewall, inner fenders, core support, drip rails, marker lights, trunk lock, door handles are shaved til I decide on a set

Project has been done in my home shop and been to a couple of pro's......been issues w/ one of them, so I pulled the car

Bruning Auto Design renewed my interest in it........great attention to detail

I know everyone likes pics...........thanks Rob

rjsjea

01-03-2008, 01:16 AM

A few more

XcYZ

01-03-2008, 06:37 AM

Great project, Rob. It's definitely cool to see a unique project like yours. :thumbsup:

camcojb

01-03-2008, 11:13 AM

love those cars, got a Dart myself. :thumbsup: Welcome!

Jody

Tom.A

01-03-2008, 01:06 PM

Nice project. It should look real mean with 345's on the back.

tjbruning

01-03-2008, 04:24 PM

sweet project. :thumbsup: Looking forward to updates

:woot:

Spiffav8

01-04-2008, 11:51 AM

That rocks! :thumbsup:

rjsjea

07-23-2008, 09:22 PM

It's been awhile but gonna bump for some progress.

Switched from BB to 6.1Hemi. Motor is gettin mocked up, raised it a couple inches. The Bruning guys raised the suspension up a couple inches front and back for the stance and keep it at 5" ground clearance.....

Trying to get the header issues worked out. DPE's will be ordered very soon.....

-Rob

gionni

07-24-2008, 03:30 AM

looks awesome man!!!! :thumbsup:

PasiR

07-24-2008, 05:52 AM

Looks gooooood :bow: :bow:

XcYZ

07-24-2008, 07:02 AM

Awesome, keep the updates coming. :cheers:

wiedemab

07-24-2008, 07:30 AM

Cool Project. Bruning's work looks amazing!

96z28ss

07-24-2008, 10:30 AM

Cool Project. Bruning's work looks amazing!

Yeah it looks good but the other amazing thing is they are fast at what they do.

tjbruning

07-24-2008, 11:33 AM

Thanks guys,

We are working with Rob to maximize his budget by spending time on the details that matter the most. Rob wanted a coilover car with a low ride height. We were able to make "slight" changes to Rob's existing alterkation k-member and rear 4-link without breaking the bank.

New pictures added to Rob's gallery on our website-

-New Wilwood hubs installed up front, sub-rails modified, and frame side lower control arm mounts were raised (more work to be done on the rear)

http://www.bruningautodesign.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=2638

rjsjea

08-09-2008, 08:58 AM

Stainless brake lines, mstr cyl, brake pedal, prop valve. radiator mounted etc..........done.

Wheels should be here in a few weeks.........well hopefully (just cursed myself). Ride height on this car is gonna be BadaZZZ.....The guys have done/ are doing a bunch of stuff to get the car as low as possible and keep about 5" of ground clearance.

96z28ss

08-19-2008, 05:24 PM

Any updates?

rjsjea

08-19-2008, 06:46 PM

A few.......

Rear 4link getting re-done. All the fittings, reservoirs, soft lines are black, brushed, or anodized. Headers are here and they fit, what a concept!!

rjsjea

08-20-2008, 05:17 PM

Rear suspension....

rjsjea

08-30-2008, 09:34 AM

Final stance........wheels should be here next week.

With all the AlterKtion, Tri4link and subframe mods the car will still have 5" of ground clearance all around.

ZVT

09-01-2008, 01:00 PM

Final stance........wheels should be here next week.

With all the AlterKtion, Tri4link and subframe mods the car will still have 5" of ground clearance all around.

Nice Rob what wheels did you finally go with?

rjsjea

09-01-2008, 04:24 PM

Intro ID Luxury 301's. 3pc 19x12, 18x8..........Obviously, stoked for there arrival. I got them polished for now, will do the finish when I decide on final color......which is a little ways off

Reckley

09-14-2008, 07:41 PM

Very very nice project...What you have done so far looks outstanding. I would love to have a Mopar project someday.

awr68

09-14-2008, 08:57 PM

Looking sweet Rob!! Do you want this thread moved to the Projects forum?

rjsjea

09-14-2008, 09:28 PM

Tim did some new inner fenders. Had to move them up about 1.5" for tire clearance and smooth them out.

Wheels are here...housing narrrowed and tires mounted soon. Wheel centers are gonna be painted or powdered as soon as I figure final paint color

rjsjea

09-19-2008, 09:52 PM

One more.....a little blingy at this point

rjsjea

09-21-2008, 09:30 AM

Looking sweet Rob!! Do you want this thread moved to the Projects forum?

Yes Anthony that would be cool...thanks

awr68

09-21-2008, 09:48 AM

Done...should get more exposure here! :cheers:

Car looks great!! :thumbsup:

Datsbad

09-22-2008, 09:35 AM

Cool update...I like the inner wheel wells.....

96z28ss

09-22-2008, 09:52 AM

Yep car is looking good.
I think if you change the roll cage in the car from the pro street look to a more pro-touring cage it would look better.

rjsjea

09-22-2008, 06:11 PM

Yep car is looking good.
I think if you change the roll cage in the car from the pro street look to a more pro-touring cage it would look better.

I agree with ya.....it's kind of on my list. Havent talked to Tim much about it tho.

Stance update...

96z28ss

09-22-2008, 06:24 PM

I agree with ya.....it's kind of on my list. Havent talked to Tim much about it tho.

Stance update...

I figured since you wanted me to spend money and modify my ride height. it was only fair that I find something on your car for you to change and spend more money on.

tjbruning

09-22-2008, 06:34 PM

I figured since you wanted me to spend money and modify my ride height. it was only fair that I find something on your car for you to change and spend more money on.

I like where this is going...

:unibrow:

rjsjea

09-22-2008, 06:40 PM

I figured since you wanted me to spend money and modify my ride height. it was only fair that I find something on your car for you to change and spend more money on.

:lol:

rjsjea

09-25-2008, 02:01 PM

Bruning built me a custom gas tank w/ an in-tank pump.......looks 100 times better than the "pro-street" style one I had. Gonna put the filler tube through the tail panel. Almost 17gallons.

awr68

09-25-2008, 02:05 PM

SWEET!!!!! :thumbsup:

Datsbad

09-25-2008, 02:23 PM

I agree with ya.....it's kind of on my list. Havent talked to Tim much about it tho.

Stance update...

LOVIN the stance. !!!!!

Keep the pics coming.

rjsjea

10-12-2008, 01:26 PM

Bent some down bars...to go with the new inner fenders and tie the front of the car together. The small bar catches the upper coil mount to add some support to the front end

tellyv

10-12-2008, 03:07 PM

looking great, let me tell you those 6.1's kick ass you'll have alot of fun with it!!!

rjsjea

10-12-2008, 03:41 PM

looking great, let me tell you those 6.1's kick ass you'll have alot of fun with it!!!

thanks......looking forward to getting it into the paint/body stages, eventually

rjsjea

01-08-2009, 10:48 PM

Some progress pics......trans/driveshaft tunnel and a couple driveshaft loops gettin fabb'd. Ride height dictating everything getting moved up. Goal is to have nearly 5" of ground clearance everywhere.

Rear suspension all back together now, only the third time I have done it in this car...:lol: .....

Getting a little cramped in the driver compartment now, but gas pedal/seats should be fine. Making room for the exhaust to tuck up as well.

awr68

01-08-2009, 11:05 PM

Looking killer Rob! I need to visit the shop again...lots of good stuff going on!!

96z28ss

01-09-2009, 10:55 AM

Looking good. Good to have safety loops on the car Ive seen many break at the track.
So is that a sample piece of the carpet you chose for your interior?
LOL

rjsjea

01-09-2009, 11:08 AM

Looking good. Good to have safety loops on the car Ive seen many break at the track.
So is that a sample piece of the carpet you chose for your interior?
LOL

:lol: you like it?

DRJDVM's '69

01-09-2009, 11:22 AM

Looks good Rob :thumbsup:

tjbruning

01-09-2009, 11:49 AM

That carpet is special... :lol:

And yes, the 4l65 is as big as it looks in the pictures. The pan protrudes into the floor area. Really too bad Rob didn't go for the T56... :unibrow:

:rofl:

rjsjea

01-09-2009, 09:54 PM

Hey look TJ left his pillow in my car........:lol:

lhkustoms

01-10-2009, 12:03 PM

rob lookin good was talking with tim last night about it and it's coming together nicely it's gonna be one sweet demon :thumbsup:

96z28ss

01-10-2009, 05:03 PM

Hey look TJ left his pillow in my car........:lol:

You know TJ is always sleeping on the job.
If it isn't for TJ then its for Tim cause old guys need to take a nap once during the day to recharge the old batteries.
LOL

srh3trinity

01-10-2009, 10:01 PM

joe440

01-10-2009, 11:04 PM

Sweet project. Quick question for you Dodge guys. I saw a Duster for sale locally that I could pick up kind of cheap. Was wondering what kind of tire you can fit under one without a mini tub job. Anybody know?

A bodys are the worst for tire size, i fit a 10inch slick in the back of my dart, theres pics in my build thread of how it looks, you would have a very similar size to what it is(the link in my signature is to the thread)

srh3trinity

01-10-2009, 11:56 PM

A bodys are the worst for tire size, i fit a 10inch slick in the back of my dart, theres pics in my build thread of how it looks, you would have a very similar size to what it is(the link in my signature is to the thread)

Thanks for the quick response. That green on your car looks great. The seats were really nice.

craigs73

01-11-2009, 08:10 AM

:thumbsup: nice project:thumbsup:

rjsjea

01-11-2009, 10:58 AM

Sweet project. Quick question for you Dodge guys. I saw a Duster for sale locally that I could pick up kind of cheap. Was wondering what kind of tire you can fit under one without a mini tub job. Anybody know?

Duster/Demons have bigger rear tubs than Dart's.......I dont know specifically know the size but on Bigblockdart a search could easily find out.

rjsjea

01-29-2009, 01:19 PM

Tunnel is finished.....

Pushed the car outside for a bit. Gotta get the wheels painted...way too blingy for me. Rear suspension is done now, Tim just finished a rear splined sway bar....will get pics soon.

96z28ss

01-29-2009, 02:13 PM

so whats next on the list?

rjsjea

01-29-2009, 03:12 PM

so whats next on the list?

Once the bellhousing gets here, a bunch of little stuff to finish up. Then exhaust and modify the rear roll cage bars. :)

96z28ss

01-29-2009, 04:04 PM

Once the bellhousing gets here, a bunch of little stuff to finish up. Then exhaust and modify the rear roll cage bars. :)

Okay so that will take only a day. Then what?

71duster

02-12-2009, 07:13 PM

hey rob. i have a 1971 duster,nothing compared to yours! do you know what the widest wheel i can get in the rear with it droppped two inches? no tubs or spring relocation. awsome project by the way!

rjsjea

02-12-2009, 07:39 PM

hey rob. i have a 1971 duster,nothing compared to yours! do you know what the widest wheel i can get in the rear with it droppped two inches? no tubs or spring relocation. awsome project by the way!

I think a 275mm-285mm wide tire on a 10" rim. Leaf springs would be the first clearance issue. You can do a leaf spring inboard kit, Mopar or Mancini Racing sells them.

Check out www.forabodiesonly.com The guys there aren't really into heavily modified Abodies like mine, but would know for sure on the rear wheel question.
Thanks for the compliment

71duster

02-12-2009, 07:50 PM

holy hell! i would be happy with a 9"! i'll check out that other site for sure. thanks for the info! and keep the pics coming on your project! can't wait to see it done!

71dusterjon

02-12-2009, 08:54 PM

i just moved the springs which isn't hard and you'll probably end up doing it sometime down the road and i have a M/T 29x12.5x15 in the back.

rjsjea

04-10-2009, 03:03 PM

Thought I'd update a bit.....

The first pic is before the cage was re-done

Tim re-built the cage......less "pro-street" more passenger friendly. Installed a splined rear sway bar. Rear suspension finally done, triangulated 4 link, backbraced 8 3/4, and rear bar.

Gotta get the right coilovers now......any suggestions? 90%street/10% track

tjbruning

04-10-2009, 04:15 PM

Gotta get the right coilovers now......any suggestions?

http://www.motorcyclingmag.com/files/ohlins%20ttx.jpg

http://trackstar1.com/store2/images/8100.jpg

http://www.afabcorp.com/AFCO_Dynatech_USbrake/graphics/00000001/3270.jpg

???

rjsjea

04-10-2009, 05:01 PM

Im sure those are right up my alley........u did call me a high-roller.:P

customcam

04-10-2009, 05:54 PM

Sits awsome guys :thumbsup:

96z28ss

04-10-2009, 06:02 PM

Im sure those are right up my alley........u did call me a high-roller.:P

Didn't you win the lottery? Spend some money on my car please!!

rjsjea

04-10-2009, 06:20 PM

Didn't you win the lottery? Spend some money on my car please!!

Well I havent checked my powerball tickets from last night.....so maybe

BlackenedRR

04-10-2009, 06:50 PM

In the mock up pics with the Centerline rims up front, what wheels are on the back? I'm really liking the look of those a lot...

rjsjea

04-10-2009, 06:57 PM

In the mock up pics with the Centerline rims up front, what wheels are on the back? I'm really liking the look of those a lot...

enkreuz, 3pc....they are on the Bruning Challenger.
Bruning Auto Design is a dealer for them. They only come in 19"+

DRJDVM's '69

04-11-2009, 09:28 AM

Looks awesome Rob. I love the cage...... now I''m back to thinking of having them do my cage now, rather than later....thanks..

awr68

04-11-2009, 09:34 AM

Looks awesome Rob. I love the cage...... now I''m back to thinking of having them do my cage now, rather than later....thanks..

Ned do it now...go with your gut!!

Rob, it looks awesome...I need to get over there!! When will it leave for paint? What's left to do fab wise?

rjsjea

04-11-2009, 10:04 AM

Looks awesome Rob. I love the cage...... now I''m back to thinking of having them do my cage now, rather than later....thanks..

Thanks Ned,

Looks like the Cuda is at that point....easier now, rather than later.

rjsjea

04-11-2009, 10:16 AM

Rob, it looks awesome...I need to get over there!! When will it leave for paint? What's left to do fab wise?

Thanks Anthony
It will come home for paint.....my brother is a painter. Just waiting on Quicktime for a bellhousing, then all the stainless hardlines can get done...hopefully in a couple weeks, not holding my breath on Qucktime.

I got plans for a spoiler (thanks Ned), some bumper/valance work, exhaust, custom door handles and a few other things......so paint is a while off unfortunately. Parking it next to the Etiket Challenger has rubbed off on it.....

96z28ss

04-11-2009, 03:06 PM

Thanks Anthony
It will come home for paint.....my brother is a painter. Just waiting on Quicktime for a bellhousing, then all the stainless hardlines can get done...hopefully in a couple weeks, not holding my breath on Qucktime.

I got plans for a spoiler (thanks Ned), some bumper/valance work, exhaust, custom door handles and a few other things......so paint is a while off unfortunately. Parking it next to the Etiket Challenger has rubbed off on it.....

you have alot of patients, I would just go with another tranny and get things going.

rjsjea

04-11-2009, 03:14 PM

you have alot of patients, I would just go with another tranny and get things going.

I already bought the transmission......when I talked to Quicktime at SEMA and was told Jan 09, I assumed Jan 09 and ordered the transmission

I bought an adapter already and it was wrong, .......I could have another one made for $1000.

DRJDVM's '69

04-11-2009, 04:42 PM

Its gonna be near impossible for me to take the car back up there for more work down the line...so when/if I do a cage, I will probably have to do it locally.

Tim would do an awesome job I'm sure....but right now I have other priorities for the $$. Plus ideally I'd like to have my seats finalized and some other stuff in the interior all figured out before I do a cage... that way I can make sure the cage fits with the interior rather than the opposite. Its got pros/cons with either approach

I've even considered not doing a cage to keep the interior more simple and clean....but I want a 4 or 5 point harness so.....it will likely happen sooner or later.

We'll see......

rjsjea

06-01-2009, 02:27 PM

Few updated pics...

Finally got the bellhousing.....trans crossmember with exhaust custouts, stainelss hardlines, headers welded up, starter mocked up etc....

tjbruning

06-01-2009, 06:17 PM

Lots of pictures on our website -

http://bruningautodesign.com/gallery.html?g2_itemId=2638&g2_page=3

DRJDVM's '69

06-01-2009, 10:29 PM

tjbruning

06-01-2009, 11:07 PM

Very nice :) I love all the hard line........

Whats the story on the headers? I thought you did the S&P ones.... just cleaned them up and rewelded ?

Any the end pieces for the lower control arms ? I want some :)

And the bulhead for the lines coming from the firewall.... I want details :yes:

Love the dash too..did Tim build that entire thing? Very nice..

Details please......

We ordered the headers from S&P un-welded. They were only tacked to the flanges in case they needed to be "altered." They fit surprisingly well considering the changes that we've made to the engine mounting location (centered, modified k-member, etc) so Tim went ahead and welded them up.

Rob's alterKation kit is an earlier version than yours and had one long 5/8" bolt, washers, and nylock nut that attached the lower control arms to the k member. Tim machined a shaft and end caps with countersunk fasteners. Looks much cleaner than before IMO.

The factory 6.1 HEMI heater tubes are plumbed into the firewall behind the intake. Tim plumbed the other two A/C lines with stainless hard line to the compressor and condensor/drier (minus a couple short sections off the compressor).

Rob will probably chime in on the dash insert, but he bought it from a company that is no longer in business if memory serves...

DRJDVM's '69

06-02-2009, 08:50 AM

tjbruning

06-02-2009, 09:50 AM

Its been awhile since I installed the k-frame, so I cant remember how mine is different. I do remember having to tap in some long bolt....

As for the firewall bulkhead...... I know what the lines are for.... I was just curious on the bulkhead itself...doesnt look like a VA unit or one I've seen. The fitting just look differrent...after looking again, I think its the fittings....they look like they have a big sleeve...... they look cool.

Anyway.....looks awesome...

I ordered the bulkhead fitting from Nostalgic Air Parts

http://www.nostalgicairparts.com/images/products/large/4784waybeadinline.jpg

http://www.nostalgicairparts.com/air-conditioning/a-c-and-heat-inline-bulkhead-push-on-478.php

tjbruning

06-02-2009, 10:25 AM

Its been awhile since I installed the k-frame, so I cant remember how mine is different. I do remember having to tap in some long bolt....

This is a before picture of the LCA bolt.
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/7257/718updates001.jpg

Bill wouldn't sell Rob the newer version (shaft with threaded retainer caps on each end)

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/5196/2209demonupdates004.jpg
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/584/2209demonupdates003.jpg

DRJDVM's '69

06-02-2009, 03:09 PM

Got it....now I can see the difference..

As for the UCA bushing, the RMS site doesnt list it as an option (vs the heim joints)......... hopefully Rob will chime in soon... or I'll call RMS

HWY Nova

06-02-2009, 04:34 PM

WOW! You guys nailed the stance:
http://i338.photobucket.com/albums/n408/hwynova/3-23-09_updates_012.jpg

Now if you could only get the hood to close.

Keep up the great work...............

--Eric

rjsjea

06-02-2009, 07:39 PM

Got it....now I can see the difference..

As for the UCA bushing, the RMS site doesnt list it as an option (vs the heim joints)......... hopefully Rob will chime in soon... or I'll call RMS

I think are uppers are probably the same. Although mine have been re-radiused a bit. I didnt pay that much attention to the Cuda's UCA's though, just the LCA's mounting

The dash is from Rocky mountain Dashes...which was run by two brothers who just couldn't get along.