A little update...

[rwhite692]

I was able to spend some time in the garage these last couple days and got the DSE Qlink mounts installed and the last details of the mini-tub done...next step will be to test fit the rearend and locate / install the upper shock mounts.

[rwhite692]

My intake arrived today, I'm posting this primarily to thank Tom Nelson, who was kind enough to connect me with another customer of his who is going from a TT SBC to a BBC and so this became available...It was fabricated by Taylor Lastor and is specific to the Dart tall deck.

[rwhite692]

....My Daughter Lucia was very critical of the GM factory spotwelds.

[class67]

nice work, I can't wait to see it in person!

[Spiffav8]

Mini tubs look great but I think that intake needs to be polished a bit. lol

[awr68]

Everything is looking great Rob!! Love the intake and your weld look nice as well!! What a cute daughter!! Livin the dream I tell ya!! :thumbsup:

[rwhite692]

shouldnt you be takin down those x-mas lights instead of playing with your car:rofl: :rofl:


Chris you know us car guys...the Christmas lights stay up all year, the house needs paint, the lawn is brown, etc...

As Borat would say..."NOT!"

[rwhite692]

Everything is looking great Rob!! Love the intake and your weld look nice as well!! What a cute daughter!! Livin the dream I tell ya!! :thumbsup:

Thanks T.....You are right, having her in our lives has been living the dream, the car stuff is just a little "icing" on the cake LOL...

[rwhite692]

Mini tubs look great but I think that intake needs to be polished a bit. lol


Funny you mention that, Curtis, I've got a plan to address that...:unibrow:

[XcYZ]

That's awesome, Rob. That intake is going to look killer on your motor.

The rotisserie... why I didn't buy or fabricate one for my project is beyond me.

What's the next step?

[GHOSTDANCER]

Looks Great :thumbsup:

[Rybar]

Lookin good Rob, that intake is sick. :thumbsup: I don't wanna know what that costs... :_paranoid

[Sales@Dutchboys]

WOW! that intake is frickin sweet! :)


Paul

[rwhite692]

That's awesome, Rob. That intake is going to look killer on your motor.

The rotisserie... why I didn't buy or fabricate one for my project is beyond me.

What's the next step?


Thanks Scott...yes that rotisserie has paid for itself big time, in terms of saving my back...The next step will be to install the rearend housing (you might remember it's a DSE fabricated 9inch, the Qlink brackets are already on it) and locate/install the upper shock mounts...then send out the housing for powdercoat and while that's going on I will start in on the roll bar/partial cage, then prime the bottom of the car / apply bedliner material...and still have to make up my mind on the front subframe...so, there's still tons of stuff to do!

Paul, Ryan thanks for the kind words...The intake was a killer deal that I could not pass up; my project budget wouldn't normally allow for a custom sheetmetal intake, had it not come along, I was going to get my existing (cast) Dart intake modified for injector bungs, etc.

[awr68]

...The intake was a killer deal that I could not pass up; my project budget wouldn't normally allow for a custom sheetmetal intake, had it not come along, I was going to get my existing (cast) Dart intake modified for injector bungs, etc.
Good things happen to good people!! :thumbsup:

[G-Stock22]

nice!

[rwhite692]

Well I figured since it has been a long long while I'd post a little update on some things I've gotten done on the car here and there and I know everyone likes pics even though you have all seen this stuff before.

Put the clip in and aligned it for mockup, etc...still need to fabricate connections between the DSE subframe connectors and the clip...My Nephew Dennis was in town for a few days, he works for RWI / Steve Wallace Nationwide series team in NC and he is a good chassis setup guy, so having him around was a big help and we had ourselves a good ole time. Next have to set the motor in for mockup of the turbo and intercooler plumbing and all that, and locate the trans xmember....have to order up a steering column too.

It was hotter'n blazes on Monday when we wheeled this outside to take some snaps.

http://inlinethumb37.webshots.com/26788/2086051180011691741S600x600Q85.jpg

Couple of belly shots

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Before anyone gets all worked up....that is black seam sealer in the tub joints, not a gap

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Time to roll this thing back inside and go jump in the pool :thumbsup:


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:lateral:

[Rybar]

Car is looking great, thanks for the update pics! :thumbsup:

[class67]

So you do still have interest in that thing...lol

I drove by your house one day last week, the door was open and I saw boxes all piled up around the car, good to see you working on it.

[rwhite692]

Hey Steve you should have stopped in for a beer we could have used some help moving all those boxes! I need to get moved out of the house garage and into the new garage, there's so much more work to do on that, and only so much time and money to go 'round...

[Ricochet]

Looks great Rob!! I am oh so familiar with the everlong projects!! :lol: Congrats again!! Forward progress is always good. :thumbsup:

[awr68]

Thanks for the update! Nice to see things are moving forward! :cheers:

[class67]

Hey Steve you should have stopped in for a beer we could have used some help moving all those boxes! I need to get moved out of the house garage and into the new garage, there's so much more work to do on that, and only so much time and money to go 'round...

Heck, if I knew beer was involved, I would have stopped...lol

Seriously, if you ever need any help, just let me know!

[city_ofthe_south]

Looking real good, you guys are looking pretty frickin happy in that picture. Forward progress has that effect.

[tones2SS]

Awesome.
She's coming along nicely. Keep us posted.:thumbsup:

[gearhead1186]

that c5 vette setup just looks soooo pretty...:thumbsup:

[meanchicken]

Rob!:woot:
Finally!
Finish that thing so I can come test drive it!!!!:unibrow:
;-)

[rwhite692]

Tim it is good to see you posting over here. You need to post up some pics of your badass 68!

[meanchicken]

I spend all my time and $ on the 87 Grand National these days since it's my daily driver.

My Camaro wants a divorce.

I do need to get under it and replace the throwout bearing so I can put some fresh miles on it....been three months since I even started it....just aint spiritual....
I know if I fire it up, I'll drive it....and if I drive it....I'll fry the clutch.

[waynieZ]

Awesome project, nice work.

[66LS7]

From the looks of the bottom that is going to be one sweet car when its done.:thumbsup:





Randy(D&Z Customs LLC.)
[email protected]
1-262-347-9741

[rwhite692]

OK not really an update but more of a question.

So I have my DSE-supplied (Moser built) quadralink rearend mocked up in the car and am a bit concerned about what I (at first) thought was an excessive amount of backlash in the gearset but what I now believe is "slop" between the detroit trutrac's female splines and the axle's splines. The amount of rotational slop is about the same on both sides. Is this normal? I'm leaning towards "no", but maybe someone here has some good input.

I shot a short vid of it:

AlyXKjef-10

[Ron in SoCal]

Hey Rob - Rookie engineering here, but I thought spec was only 5 to 10 thousandths. There were some complaints on Nasty 28 about the Moser rear end axle play. I have the same set up, so I'll be looking for the experts to respond...

[Richio1]

I have the same set up too... not road tested yet though

[Payton King]

I have about the same amount of play back and forth. Seems like a lot, but i have 4500 miles on my car and no issues. Some of it is the lash on the gears and the other is in the tru trac.

[rwhite692]

Thanks guys for your inputs. It does seem like a lot.

With the wheels/tires mounted the slop/play (of course) becomes much more magnified/noticeable.

Payton (since you have miles on your setup) did you notice any undue noise as soon as power is applied to the rear (as when moving away from a stop)?

It seems like my setup will definitely make a "klunk!" as soon as the pinion starts rotating....That just really bothers me.

[DEIGuy38]

Mine has the same amount of play/slop. My brother in law built my rear and he has been building for about 18 years. I think you are good.

[Vince@Meanstreets]

the slop is normal, great project :yes:

[Payton King]

and you do not feel it driving. You will like the tru trac as it is silky smooth.

[DRJDVM's '69]

My Moser Dana 60 does the same thing....

[rwhite692]

Thanks very much guys, I feel better about it now.

[Matt@BOS]

Yeah, I had 5500 miles on mine (complete 9" from DSE) and it never made any noises. I've got a little under 8000 miles now with the same center section, but floating axles and it only ever clunked once after pulling away from a stop on a hill. You'll be just fine :thumbsup:

Matt

[rwhite692]

Thanks Matt!

Data points like that, (your 8K miles, and Payton's 4.5K) are great to have.

[rwhite692]

A little update again, since I've managed to get a few things done here and there.

Mounted up the radiator and intercooler. These pics will look quite familiar to Scott and Jody, LOL.

I still have to order my Vintage Air stuff and get my condenser mounted as well.


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The RS headlight doors won't hinge open all the way due to the intercooler but I already knew that issue was coming. I am going to fab up a mount for the door faces so that they can be popped in/out.

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Made up some closeout panels out of 6061 sheet for the fenders where the 4" tubing will pass through to the air filters. They still need fine tuning and bead rolling but, you get the idea.

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I decided to run a wilwood pedal assembly w/balance bar and the small masters, so I made a 3/16" plate mount/panel for that, and sank it into the firewall. It's just tacked in place for now.

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For the bottom section I made a plate as well. The lower section is sank (sunk?) into the firewall about 3/8" further than the top section.

Once I measured the angle of the dangle, I jigged up the plate and bored an angled hole through it. I found some nice SS tubing with an ID a tick over 2", so the column tube is a nice slip fit inside.

I am going to drill and tap the tube for some set screws, and also cut a 3/32" groove into the ID of the tube at the lower end, to receive an o-ring to keep any water/dirt from getting into the tube.

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Well, that's about all for now. time to clean up. -Rob

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[Flash68]

Really like that last picture. Super clean car coming together in a super clean space. :thumbsup:

Cool to see you making good progress again.

[torino420]

Nice progress, love the shop too! I drool every time I drive by your place. :)

[Ron in SoCal]

Really like that last picture. Super clean car coming together in a super clean space. :thumbsup:

Cool to see you making good progress again.

Wut he sed...:yes:

Great update Rob. Your plan is falling together nicely and that innercooler looks right at home...:thumbsup:

[tones2SS]

Very nice. Great to see the updates. Looks like a great build.

[coolwelder62]

Rob,Look's great.:thumbsup:

[Rick Giles]

Wow that's some good looking fab work, Rob!

[waynieZ]

Nice progress.

[XcYZ]

That last shot is my favorite. Makes me just want to walk in and start giving you a hand.

Have you decided on the exact color yet, Rob?

[GregWeld]

Nice Rob! Now I'll share something I've learned... it's taken me a long time... because of an extra thick skull...



People lie...

There are no elves that come out at night and build stuff while you're sleeping.:D

[70rs]

Looking great Rob! I like the intercooler and how you set everything up. Thats a lot of stuff to cram together under the hood. But it all looks really good so far.

[Matt@BOS]

I almost forgot about the little detail work on the column coming out of the firewall, etc. Love those little touches.

Just read about the headlight issue. Are you thinking of running HIDs. If you are, you might be able to keep the doors closed and still have enough light. It almost works for me, but the halogens from DSE aren't quite bright enough.

Matt

[rwhite692]

I almost forgot about the little detail work on the column coming out of the firewall, etc. Love those little touches.

Just read about the headlight issue. Are you thinking of running HIDs. If you are, you might be able to keep the doors closed and still have enough light. It almost works for me, but the halogens from DSE aren't quite bright enough.

Matt

Thank You for the kind words Matt, Not sure if I will run the HIDs or not, but that is food for thought. Which HIDs did you go with?

[rwhite692]

...Thats a lot of stuff to cram together under the hood....

You're tellin me!, LOL!

[rwhite692]

Nice Rob! Now I'll share something I've learned... it's taken me a long time... because of an extra thick skull...



People lie...

There are no elves that come out at night and build stuff while you're sleeping.:D

GW you are right about that, unfortunately, they don't show up while I'm at work, either!

[rwhite692]

That last shot is my favorite. Makes me just want to walk in and start giving you a hand.

Have you decided on the exact color yet, Rob?


The beer is always ready Scott!

I have been all over the place on color choice. Whatever it winds up being, it will probably be a bright color. I had Ben do a few different renderings for me in a bright solid (nonmetallic) blue. I dunno, other days I like yellow, LOL. We'll see.

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[Lenie]

:beavis: :beavis: :beavis: :yes: Nice Rob! Now I'll share something I've learned... it's taken me a long time... because of an extra thick skull...



People lie...

There are no elves that come out at night and build stuff while you're sleeping.:D

[bentfab]

looking good! Like the bowtie on the shop floor :thumbsup:

[Rybar]

Thank You for the kind words Matt, Not sure if I will run the HIDs or not, but that is food for thought. Which HIDs did you go with?

Project looks good Rob, I'm doing what Matt suggested. Run HID's with my RS Doors closed. I think they look better closed anyways. I have pics of them if you are interested.

[DRJDVM's '69]

Finally some real progress!!! Looks great..... Nice work

[rwhite692]

Here are a couple of pics with the pedal assembly and the masters mocked up. I might decide to go with the smaller format master cylinders which use the separate reservoirs....and the CV billet reservoirs, just because they look so much cooler than these.

Anyway, in case it helps anyone doing the same kind of thing...early in the process, and luckily, before any sparks flew, I found that, in order to position the whole shebang so that it would both clear the valve cover, AND allow the valve cover to be removed, that would make the brake pedal arm hit the column. Great.

So in order to fix that, I had to modify the brake pedal arm to put an offset into it, to move it about 3/4" toward the tunnel. Of course, this moved the two pedal pads further apart, but I don't think it's going to amount to much, in terms of driving the car.

I also still need to make a couple of supports to tie the pedal assembly into the metal directly above it.

The whole thing protrudes from the firewall by about 5.5"


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[rwhite692]

Project looks good Rob, I'm doing what Matt suggested. Run HID's with my RS Doors closed. I think they look better closed anyways. I have pics of them if you are interested.


Ryan, Thanks for those pics. Dang, those HIDs certainly look bright enough, even through the RS doors. Which HID system / vendor did you use?

[Rybar]

Ryan, Thanks for those pics. Dang, those HIDs certainly look bright enough, even through the RS doors. Which HID system / vendor did you use?

Rob, my buddy who wired my car installed them and supplied the parts, here's a thread I posted when I first installed them there some info there:
http://www.lateral-g.net/forums/showthread.php4?t=10173

[syborg tt]

The pedals look awesome.

One thing you are going to want to check, double check and check again is pedal length. Mine were high even though we thought they would be good once the carpet was installed. I know of a couple other cars out there that had the same problem.

My suggestion is get a chunk of the factory carpet, jute and anything else you plan to put on your floor and make sure they are correct.

The guys from www.bruningautodesign.com made a custom pedal arm on one of there projects to get it to the correct spot. Or I can send you the cad files for a billet version ( 1.5" longer then stock )

[rwhite692]

Thanks Marty!

That is a really good point, I tried to get the pedal pads as close as possible to the stock position, height-wise. I don't have my seats yet, so really can't "test-drive" them, But i know what you mean about he position being important. If it turns out that I need to lengthen or shorten them, that's what I'll need to do....Thank you for the offer on the cad files for the billet pedal arms, Dang, those sure would look sweet... Now you've got me lusting after those, dammit. Thanks a lot! :willy:

[rwhite692]

Nice progress, love the shop too! I drool every time I drive by your place. :)

Jason, anytime you see the lights on, stop by! ....I really need to check out that Torino!

[awr68]

Nice update Rob! I love how it looks in the last pic....its coming along nicely! I really like the rendering too!

[MarkM66]

Do have a pic of the CV products m/c?

[rwhite692]

Do have a pic of the CV products m/c?

Hi Mark, I think that Chris at JCG is (or was) using them on project blu balz (awesome car), and then made up his own custom ones...there are some pics in the thread linked below. Threaded adapters need to be made up, to mate the CV reservoir to the wilwood master, but it's not a huge deal.

CV also makes a three across "bar" to mate three of their reservoir tanks to three wilwood masters.


http://www.lateral-g.net/forums/showthread.php4?t=27973&page=5&highlight=blu+balz

[rwhite692]

Well, I called up my nephew in Mooresville who works for a Nationwide team and he is going to send me three of the CV reservoirs.... So it looks like I am going to be replacing my masters now, LOL.


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[War]

That mount on the firewall is a good idea Rob. Puts a liitle meat back in the firewall and those CV res. are very nice pieces, those will look / work perfect with your set up. Nice job.

[Cris@JCG]

Rob- I hope you don't mind..

I did the Wilwood M/C with my own reservoirs on a Chevelle I had here @ the shop.. Did the same thing you did on the plate for the pedals but machined mine with a 1/2 radius & wrapped it ..

The Wilwood M/C have a funny thread on them.. when first designed.. they were not thinking we would want threaded reservoirs on them.. Wilwood now offers them threaded with a fitting for a -3 flexline..

I have done C/V reservoirs on the a Wilwood M/C.. I chucked them on a lathe & machined the threads.. The reason I do my own reservoirs is because we properly vent them.. I did not really like the way C/V did theirs.. JUst my preference of doing thinks..


Hope this info. helps Rob..


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Hi Mark, I think that Chris at JCG is (or was) using them on project blu balz (awesome car), and then made up his own custom ones...there are some pics in the thread linked below. Threaded adapters need to be made up, to mate the CV reservoir to the wilwood master, but it's not a huge deal.

CV also makes a three across "bar" to mate three of their reservoir tanks to three wilwood masters.


http://www.lateral-g.net/forums/showthread.php4?t=27973&page=5&highlight=blu+balz

[rwhite692]

Thanks Cris, that is good info, much appreciated! Your fab work is just beautiful. You mentioned that wilwood now sells them with a threaded female boss for the reservoir, do you happen to know if that thread size is the same as the male on the CV reservoirs?

[Cris@JCG]

The fitting that is included in a Wilwood threaded M/C is is specific to the thread on the M/C & then to a -3 AN male ..

If you want to fit CV's on the Wilwood M/C.. You will have to machine the thread to match the Wilwood M/C & make sure you use a EPR o-ring..

I have very little experience with Wilwood components.. I only worked their for 10 yrs!


Thanks Cris, that is good info, much appreciated! Your fab work is just beautiful. You mentioned that wilwood now sells them with a threaded female boss for the reservoir, do you happen to know if that thread size is the same as the male on the CV reservoirs?

[rwhite692]

Thanks Cris, looks like I will either do that or use the adapter made by CV.

[tones2SS]

Great updates. These reservoirs look awesome.

[56pickup]

any updates?

[meanchicken]

Nice work Rob!
I can't wait to drive that thing....:yes:
:cheers:

[waynieZ]

How's it going Ron?

[meanchicken]

Hey Rob, What's the latest?