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B Schein
06-24-2005, 08:22 AM
Hey guys, I was just wondering if you like the look of this is pushing the tire size thing a little to far. I put my rear wheel on the front just to see what it looks like right now I am undecided. Right now I have 12 in rear wheels with 335 mounted. The rims are way to wide to get any kind of turning radius they hit the apron of the uca. The front end is designed for a 10.5-inch rim I was originally planning on 295 for street use and mostly for look and a much more conservative 275 for the track. Now am thinking I may go with a 315 in the front just for street. I am just looking for some suggestions on what you think will look the best for the street. Keep in mind that this is going to be track raced car as much as I can/afford.

Brian

XcYZ
06-24-2005, 08:34 AM
Looks like Big Red. :D

It sounds like you know what you want for a track setup, so basically for a street setup, it's purely for looks. A 335 up front would be completely over the top. Radical. Personally, I'd go with the 315 on the 10.5" wheel.

Musclerodz
06-24-2005, 08:51 AM
I would think anything over 10" on the front would be overkill. I am planning on 9.5 or 10's up front. I start to get concerned myself especially with handling on wet pavement. Big tires become skis very quickly. You may not plan to drive in the rain, but more than likely you will get caught in it. I plan to drive the crap out of my car and I know I will get caught somewhere on a trip.

There has to be a point of diminishing return somewhere for race application. Vehicle weight is something to be considered as well. Lighter car will turn just as well on narrower wheels. Narrower wheels equals more speed in the straight away due to less friction. Wider wheels require more turning radius. Very wide wheels require power steering coolers, more friction, more heat, harder to package. I was talking to Marcus at SC&C the other day and he brought up a good point. A stock C5 vette with race tires will pull right at 1G on 245's up front.

For street, all the wide front and rear tires end up mostly as awe factor. I can see the reasons for the wide rear tires with people putting 500-1000 hp motors in street driven cars. I know, I know, I am the pot calling the kettle black here with me putting 345 19's on the rear of my car! In the end it boils down to personal preference and taste and go do what makes you happy! Oh the decisions! :willy:

Mike

DCreations
06-24-2005, 08:52 AM
Go with the 315!!!!!!

907rs
06-24-2005, 09:20 AM
If I had the clearance, I'd do the 315 as well. Still a kick-ass combo, but not overkill. You don't want to be doing ten point turns everywhere you go. :D

Derek69SS
06-24-2005, 10:54 AM
You don't want to be doing ten point turns everywhere you go. :D

Steer with the throttle. :unibrow:

Steve1968LS2
06-24-2005, 11:01 AM
I have 275's on the front and it looks great.. anything bigger like a 315 or 335 would be crazy big.. imagine all them rocks hitting your lower fenders.. :willy:

I would consider some Xpel...

B Schein
06-24-2005, 12:57 PM
Steve do you have a good picture that is low to the ground showing the tire. As far as rock chips I could care less I really don’t care that much about paint I not even going to put clear on the car just a signal stage because it is cheaper and easier to do you self.

Thanks for the suggestions I am just look for every one opinions. One other thing I for got to mention and earlier is that I plan to run 18s in the front and 17 s in the rear most people probably wont like it, but my car is more function over form the 18s will give better turn in characteristics and clear the 14 inch brakes and the 17s in the rear will give me more side wall and hopefully help with better traction and ride quality.

Brian

Steve Chryssos
06-24-2005, 12:58 PM
It looks goofy.

DCreations
06-24-2005, 02:35 PM
Brian who built your chassis?

B Schein
06-24-2005, 02:45 PM
I bulit the the chassis my self. It is called the JPIFS

Brian

Steve1968LS2
06-24-2005, 06:37 PM
Steve do you have a good picture that is low to the ground showing the tire. As far as rock chips I could care less I really don’t care that much about paint I not even going to put clear on the car just a signal stage because it is cheaper and easier to do you self.

Thanks for the suggestions I am just look for every one opinions. One other thing I for got to mention and earlier is that I plan to run 18s in the front and 17 s in the rear most people probably wont like it, but my car is more function over form the 18s will give better turn in characteristics and clear the 14 inch brakes and the 17s in the rear will give me more side wall and hopefully help with better traction and ride quality.

Brian

a little dark by the tread.. maybe you can lighten it..

http://www.z069.us/68/exterior/web_a2.jpg

Musclerodz
06-24-2005, 09:25 PM
Steve, how high do the rockers sit off the ground, and why does it have 67 mirrors? I just love that car less the hood.

Mike

Al Moreno
06-24-2005, 09:57 PM
Steve, your car looks awesome, I like the new front spolier without the air ducs.

By the way, there's a show coming up "Los Angeles Chevy Madness 805-686-2007 Aug 14, 2005" Do you know if it's similar to Super Chevy and worth going?

sinned
06-24-2005, 11:11 PM
Looks to me like Brian kept the blueprints laying around after building the jigs and spindles for JP's Nova. Are you using all the same x,y,z measurements or did you make changes to the parts themselves?

Steve1968LS2
06-24-2005, 11:34 PM
Steve, how high do the rockers sit off the ground, and why does it have 67 mirrors? I just love that car less the hood.

Mike

because 67 mirrors are cool!! :hail:

Actually it only has one mirror.. I love how it looks but at speed it seems to move a bit.. might change them out.

I could measure for you.. the clearance isnt as bad as you think since the exhaust is tucked up well.

Yea, the hood needs a new home.. on a drag car

I don't think the LS2 will need a tall hood.. :unibrow:

Steve1968LS2
06-24-2005, 11:35 PM
Steve, your car looks awesome, I like the new front spolier without the air ducs.

By the way, there's a show coming up "Los Angeles Chevy Madness 805-686-2007 Aug 14, 2005" Do you know if it's similar to Super Chevy and worth going?

First Ive heard of it.. I will look into the details and see.. we have so few really good shows out here.. sad..

wickedmotorhead
06-30-2005, 11:11 PM
315s!!!! That's exactly what I'm going to run too, but Im widening the fenders a little to get some steering back. Of course my car is a little bigger and probably will look more proportional. What kind of offset where you thinking? Chassis looks great...cant wait to see it run on the track!

ProdigyCustoms
07-01-2005, 05:18 PM
Brian, if it is form over funtion, shouldn't the front tires be a couple inches narrorer?

B Schein
07-04-2005, 08:35 PM
That is why the Track tires are 275s

Shane I am running 10.5 inch rims with 8.5 backspacing on the front that makes my scrub radius rigth around .75

Brian

USAZR1
07-05-2005, 07:07 PM
Brian,have I got the rear tires for you. :yes: How about a pair of Pirelli 365/35/17's? :P

Protour_Pinto
07-09-2005, 09:58 PM
I plan to run 18s in the front and 17 s in the rear most people probably wont like it, but my car is more function over form the 18s will give better turn in characteristics and clear the 14 inch brakes and the 17s in the rear will give me more side wall and hopefully help with better traction and ride quality.

Brian

That is the setup most top autocrossers run on the vettes. Works great!