Anvil 2nd gen Camaro hood

[ANVIL1]

OK, I need everyone's help here with some decisions. We're sorting out a repop hood to fit and wondering if we should; A) just make a stock hood in carbon fiber (with a little tweaking to the grill so it is cut out with 2 vent holes backed up with the same aluminum hexagonal grill as our frist gen cowl panels) or B) add the L-88 style scoop with tweaks to it to conform to the lines of the hood better (like flare it out from a top view to match the angle of the lines on the hood) or C) make the stock style with provisions to accept the L-88 or other style scoops like the air extractor pictured as separate bolt on pieces? I guess the real question is, does anybody want a stock style cf hood with no whistles and bells?

Best, MaTT


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[protour73]

Matt............stock style no bells and whistles....OR....2" cowl induction.

May I be 1st in line!!!!????

Scott:cool:

oh yea....I'll volunteer a 2nd Gen non-RS front spoiler for a mold for a CF front spoiler!!!

[Musclerodz]

stock.

Mike

[skatinjay27]

stock stock stock!!!! imo L88 is... cf is more for the pro-touring style the L88 is a motion drag style...

[70gotboost]

Matt............stock style no bells and whistles....OR....2" cowl induction.

May I be 1st in line!!!!????

Scott:cool:

oh yea....I'll volunteer a 2nd Gen non-RS front spoiler for a mold for a CF front spoiler!!!


2" cowl, and may I be second in line?? for the spoiler too!!! :)

[XcYZ]

2" cowl

Although I don't have a 2nd Gen, that's what I'd want, a 2" cowl.

[DDY RCKT]

Although I don't have a 2nd Gen, that's what I'd want, a 2" cowl.

Agreed!

Also, I need other panels in CF, too. I gotta get the weight down. :D

[jason73z]

hey matt heres a 2.5 inch cowl hood on my silver z http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff286/jason73z/WCS_0102.jpg

[ANVIL1]

Thanks for the feedback........so far.
Although I don't mind a 2" cowl hood, I think the styling belongs on the first gen inwhich it was originally designed for. If you look at the design language of the second gen, it is much more about softer compound curves, while the fist gen has harder corners. The straight, relatively slab sided cowl induction just looks a little out of place on the second gen car. I think that a more curvelinear version could work with the sides flared out towards the rear from a top view to match the lines of the hood. I was intending to modify the L-88 to go along with the hood better, but everyone seems so against it, I don't think I will even entertain that idea now.
If we go with a stock style hood, I was thinking of cutting out the vents and making them a 1 or 2 opening affair backed up with a hexagonal mesh like our first gen cowl panel. Would people rather have that, or just smooth over the vent holes altogether?
We are working on some sketches which I will post tomorrow.

Thanks again,
MaTT
ANVil:thumbsup:

[ANVIL1]

We are making the deck lid, rear filler panel, rear spoiler and front nose piece in carbon fiber. I plan on making the nose piece a one piece deal that has the RS look, but can use the standard grill. I may, however, make it in 2 pieces, so that people can choose either the RS lower valance or standard in case they want to use the lower turn signal openings as brake cooling ducts or have turn signals in them and put driving lights in the RS turn signal locations.
We are also planning on some interior parts like the A pillar moldings and interior windshield header molding as well as the upper door panel moldings. We are also working on a customizable center console.
Would love to hear feedback on any of these parts or other requests.
PS, we will make a cf front spoiler, but will make it in a way where it won't be as vulnerable to breakage. I believe this is a big issue when buying a part that costs more than a stock plastic unit.

Thanks, MaTT
ANVil

[ANVIL1]

Hey Jason,

Killer Z!
We got ours from another Jason, Jason Wyrick who has some very nice pics of the car on this web site. He also got one of his pictures in the latest issue of Popular Hotrodding.

[jjarky]

I am partial to cowl. 2" is safe. IMO taller the better. Big NOGO on the L88, for some reason it has a bad rep. I think you might have something with the small vents. Placed properly they might be the ticket as an option to set off the stock hood. To appeal to the masses, I think a stock hood and a 2" cowl will be your best bet for offerings. I think you should cut out the small vent lines and insert large pieces of your octagon mesh (I think you metioned this in the post?). That would look great. IMO

[JayR]

Thanks for the feedback........so far.
Although I don't mind a 2" cowl hood, I think the styling belongs on the first gen inwhich it was originally designed for. If you look at the design language of the second gen, it is much more about softer compound curves, while the fist gen has harder corners. The straight, relatively slab sided cowl induction just looks a little out of place on the second gen car. I think that a more curvelinear version could work with the sides flared out towards the rear from a top view to match the lines of the hood. I was intending to modify the L-88 to go along with the hood better, but everyone seems so against it, I don't think I will even entertain that idea now.
If we go with a stock style hood, I was thinking of cutting out the vents and making them a 1 or 2 opening affair backed up with a hexagonal mesh like our first gen cowl panel. Would people rather have that, or just smooth over the vent holes altogether?
We are working on some sketches which I will post tomorrow.

Thanks again,
MaTT
ANVil:thumbsup:

YES! I totally agree with your theory on 2nd gen design language and would love to see a flat aftermarket hood. You need to design the scoop that is on your homepage for a 1st and 2nd gen NOW! With all the late model efi motors in these cars, there is no reason for a traditional cowl hood because it feeds air 3' from the throttle body and the motors are so low profile, there's already tons of clearance under a flat stock hood. I dig the extractor vents as an option and would probably smooth right over the cowl vents.

The L-88 hood just screams 1979.

I have a lot of clients ask for cowl hoods on their Camaros and I will change their minds to that new scoop if you make it! That could be one of the coolest new products and people need an option between stock or cowl induction.

[Roger M]

OK, I need everyone's help here with some decisions. We're sorting out a repop hood to fit and wondering if we should; A) just make a stock hood in carbon fiber (with a little tweaking to the grill so it is cut out with 2 vent holes backed up with the same aluminum hexagonal grill as our frist gen cowl panels) or B) add the L-88 style scoop with tweaks to it to conform to the lines of the hood better (like flare it out from a top view to match the angle of the lines on the hood) or C) make the stock style with provisions to accept the L-88 or other style scoops like the air extractor pictured as separate bolt on pieces? I guess the real question is, does anybody want a stock style cf hood with no whistles and bells?

Best, MaTT


http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc95/anvil_auto/secondgenhood003.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc95/anvil_auto/secondgenhood002.jpg
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc95/anvil_auto/secondgenhood001.jpg




I like the original flat hood, but 2 of the small vents might look good molded in, especially if they were reshaped to follow the lines of the nose on the car. Also, the teardrop scoop found on the 78ish z/28 might look good if it were made functional and molded in properly.

Just my 2 cents.

[Roger M]

Minus those cool 70s vintage graphics though

[ANVIL1]

Here they are! what do you guys think?

-
Matt
ANVil

[zbugger]

I like #5 if it was a little more teardrop like the factory had it. Just me though.... And I'm loopy.:willy:

[jjarky]

Here they are! what do you guys think?

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Matt
ANVil

Man, 3 is it! But without the vents. It looks subtle, but in person I think it would really give the car a mean look. It would take some playing with the rear height to really nail it, but I think that would be the perfect option away from a traditional cowl. It just seems so obvious to follow the original hood lines I can believe I have'nt seen it before. My 2 cents.

[DDY RCKT]

Here they are! what do you guys think?

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Matt
ANVil

Don't ask me to pick, please...

The stress will drive me back to the asylum...they're all so perfect...:willy:

[skatinjay27]

man matt!!! they vent place ment on #7 is perfect!!!!! but i bet you know which one is my favorite 111111

[syborg tt]

#2 is good for me

[Cread01]

I like 2, 3, and 8. I think 3 and 8 are just plain sick. not something you see very often. Also I am hoping you will post more about the interior components you are thinking of. I have a 78 and am so glad that the second gens are getting more popular. Means more aftermarket parts.

[radrambler]

ok

i know a guy who had grafted the chevelle cowl induction onto a second gen stock hood and it looked AWESOME....SORRY I DONT HAVE A PIC

DRAW IT UP ...:thumbsup:

IM TELLIN YA IT LOOKS SOOOO GOOD AND FACTORY

I HAD A SECOND GEN BUT MINE HAD A 2 INCH COWL (15 YEARS AGO)

RADRAMBLER

[ANVIL1]

Hey Radrambler. I assume that picutre was taken awhile ago. Was the hood fiberglass or steel?
It's funny that you mention the Chevelle cowl hood. I was just in Costco yesterday looking at their selection of Maisto die cast cars and they had a '70 Chevelle. I looked at the hood and thought, hey, that would be a nice option on the second gen Camaro. It's more curvey than the 1st gen cowl hood, so it would be more in keeping with the styling of the body.


MaTT
ANVil

[radrambler]

Hey Radrambler. I assume that picutre was taken awhile ago. Was the hood fiberglass or steel?
It's funny that you mention the Chevelle cowl hood. I was just in Costco yesterday looking at their selection of Maisto die cast cars and they had a '70 Chevelle. I looked at the hood and thought, hey, that would be a nice option on the second gen Camaro. It's more curvey than the 1st gen cowl hood, so it would be more in keeping with the styling of the body.


MaTT
ANVil

FIRST CAR I EVER BUILT...FROM GROUND UP..AT THE AGE OF 21
THAT WAS 15 YEARS AGO..:lol: MY HOOD WAS FROM UNLIMITED PRODUCTS...FIBERGLASS...
I READ THE POST AND HAD TO RESPOND..IM TELLIN YOU ..THAT CHEVELLE COWL INDUCTION GRAFTED TO THE STOCK HOOD HAS THE RIGHT PROPORTIONS AND IT LOOKED FACTORY.AND THE FLAP WORKED. PEOPLE WOULD LOVE IT.THEY DID WHEN THEY SAW THIS ONE IN PERSON..OH THE BONUS NOBODY IS DOING THIS STYLE HOOD EITHER...$$$


RADRAMBLER

[Abomination]

Please keep it looking stock, I wouldn't even think of buying the l88 type hood. Cant wait to see this stuff for sale!

[Steve1968LS2]

1,2 & 8 would be the best sellers.. all are nice in thier own way. :)

[JayR]

#1 or 2 with vents from #3 as an option!

[ANVIL1]

Here's our latest hood sketch #10
w/ low profile cowl induction hood similar to the 70' Chevelle SS.

What do you guys think?

-
Matt,

ANVil

[DDY RCKT]

Need more rise! Is that about 1.5" there? :unibrow:

I like it! :thumbsup:

[syborg tt]

really like #10

suggestion - make the scoop follow the same lines of the hood

Here's our latest hood sketch #10
w/ low profile cowl induction hood similar to the 70' Chevelle SS.

What do you guys think?

-
Matt,

ANVil

[Vince@Meanstreets]

Someone did a sketch like that but it looked like a mid 80's Mustang cowl hood.

[JayR]

I'm with Marty. I like #10 but think the front of the scoop should fade away to nothing into the front of the hood instead of looking like it's on top of the hood like a Chevelle but keep the top of the scoop flat like a Chevelle, not falling downhill like some of the 2nd gen cowl scoops available. Just my $.02

[grendel]

Here they are! what do you guys think?

-
Matt
ANVil



Very old thread, I know. I would love #6. I also want inner and outer fenders, front nose piece, close out panel, rear deck lid and a 3 piece spoiler.

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