Power Tour 2005: Pics from the road

[MnHotRod]

Thought this deserved it's own thread....

The picture below was taken at 8:30am Sunday, June 5th 2005 at Miller's Park in Milwaukee Wisconsin. There were approximately 2200 check-ins for registration at the Milwaukee starting point. This picture represents a small fraction of that number at an estimated 600 cars. The tour started with the first car leaving the lot at 9:00am sharp. It took about 35 minutes for all cars to exit the grounds.

http://mnhotrods.com/temp/panorama_hillsidet.jpg (http://mnhotrods.com/temp/panorama_hillside.jpg)

More pics from the tour can be found below:
http://gallery.mnhotrods.com/albums/power05/IMG_6239.thumb.jpg (http://gallery.mnhotrods.com/power05) http://gallery.mnhotrods.com/albums/power05/IMG_6240.thumb.jpg (http://gallery.mnhotrods.com/power05) http://gallery.mnhotrods.com/albums/power05/IMG_6241.thumb.jpg (http://gallery.mnhotrods.com/power05)

[68protouring454]

man i cannot wait to do a power tour, looks killer, i bet everyone is having a great time, hey get us some more pics of today, thanks so much for the pics so far!!!
jake

[69rs]

Thanks! Great pics! :thumbsup:

[907rs]

Great pics Steve! Thanks for sharing. :D

[Huxsol81]

great pics Steve thanks for sharing, does anyone recognize the mug behind the wheel of the yellow 69 Chevelle?

[Ricochet]

great pics Steve thanks for sharing, does anyone recognize the mug behind the wheel of the yellow 69 Chevelle?

Yeah..I recognize that mug in the driver seat!! Not to mention the Jody's mug in the passenger seat. While most of us are working..those clowns are out playing...Yeah...I'm jealous!!! :mad:


Thanks for the pics Steve!! :thumbsup:

[Blown353]

Yeah..I recognize that mug in the driver seat!! Not to mention the Jody's mug in the passenger seat. While most of us are working..those clowns are out playing...Yeah...I'm jealous!!! :mad:


Thanks for the pics Steve!! :thumbsup:

Hey, Brent... we can get even, at least with one of those mugs. Party at Jody's while he's gone! :P

[Derek69SS]

I like pic #118 :willy:

[Derek69SS]

Pic #5 (black 70 El Camino) belongs to a member of the Northstar Chevelle Club... That is what my '70 El Camino wants to be when it grows up :D

[68protouring454]

derek 117 good too!! i think he got sidetracked for 2 pics!!! lol
jake

[LVCamaro]

Jody and Scott got some under-the-car-time yesterday afternoon. The Chevelle fuel tank and feed line became too hot to touch, then the car suffered vapor-lock type symptoms. I understand they had to push the Chevelle thru a couple stoplights after stalling :willy: . Sources tell me they limped into last nite's stop mid/late evening hungry, thirsty, dirty and angry. :_paranoid

Jody called a couple hours ago to say they made it to Opreyland today without problems after jury rigging a new copper fuel line from the tank, up thru the trunk floor, coiled into an ice chest, under the carpets to the firewall then on to the throttle body. Cool fuel was the answer, so I hope to be able reconcile our friendship in a couple days...LOL :eek:

SS

[LVCamaro]

Charley just sent me some pics of the "fuel cooling system", so I'll try to get Bill to post a couple...pretty interesting idea actually. Turns out, after seeing the pics, my earlier description of the concept was a bit incorrect, but the temporary fix is pretty ingenious.

SS

[LVCamaro]

I see Timmy Lawlor is online...can you post pics for me if I email them to you, Tim?

SS

[Chevy454]

This looks like some of the "Hillbilly engineering" that you'd see here in my neck of the woods, but I gotta give it to the guys for finding a work around to the fuel pump problem... :thumbsup:

http://www.yenko.net/photos/data/548/medium/power_tour_2005_052.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/photos/data/548/medium/power_tour_2005_053.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/photos/data/548/medium/power_tour_2005_054.jpg

[Chevy454]

http://www.yenko.net/photos/data/548/medium/power_tour_2005_055.jpg http://www.yenko.net/photos/data/548/medium/power_tour_2005_057.jpg http://www.yenko.net/photos/data/548/medium/power_tour_2005_062.jpg

I'm new to this whole Power Tour thing...in the picture above, which 2 are the Long Haulers? :D

[Huxsol81]

I think Scott and Jody look good in hats...LOL :unibrow:

[BC69]

That took some thinking, I am honestly impressed, using a 5 dollar ice chest running that rare engine....I dont know how they thought of that.


I think the truth was the burn outs were taking their toll on the engine...Vapor Lock?? Couldnt see the fuel gauge going down through all the rubber smoke huh guys!!!

Sorry Mr. S. I didnt even notice the post before, I would have posted em for you. Hope all is well...counting down the days to Alaska??????

Thanks
Tim

[zbugger]

That's pretty ingenious. Great work guys. You're doing well as guinea pigs for Mr S. But I have to ask, in that last pic, why the long faces? :willy:

[907rs]

Sorry Steve, I was at work.

LMAO!!!!.......... At least you have a custom cool-can now!

[Ricochet]

I think Scott and Jody look good in hats...LOL :unibrow:

LOL!! I didn't know Jody played the guitar? That Jody is one talented guy! Something tells me this isn't the first time those two have been compared to jackasses??

I have to say I'm pretty impressed with their fix!! McGyver ain't got nothin' on Scott & Jody! :thumbsup:

[Blown353]

http://www.yenko.net/photos/data/548/medium/power_tour_2005_054.jpg

LIFT WITH YOUR KNEES, NOT YOUR BACK! :P

That sucks. Didn't Charley have the same problems last year with the Mule?

[LVCamaro]

...notice they qualified for Handicap Parking spot too :D

Scott just called from Nashville and said everything is good after a 10 pound bag of ice each morning. Charley had the same problem last year with the SAME fuel pump :mad:

SS

[Blown353]

...notice they qualified for Handicap Parking spot too :D

Scott just called from Nashville and said everything is good after a 10 pound bag of ice each morning. Charley had the same problem last year with the SAME fuel pump :mad:

SS

Can I guess... is it brand "A"? Are you using the PWM step-down box for low throttle/cruise to cut down on the fuel flow (and therefore heating)?

When was it acting up on them... during sustained higher speed cruising, or during extended "putt-putt" sessions in slow/creeping traffic?

The problem is frustrating, but it's great to see they came up with a quick and dirty workaround so they can drive the car between stops, rather than tow it. The problem is definately correctable. A rather simple way to cure it is an air-to-fuel cooler in front of the car, plumbed into the return line after the pressure regulator. I haven't had a vapor lock problem on my car yet, even in around-town traffic in the heat on a low tank, but should the problem ever occur a cooler on the return line will be my first step towards correcting it.

I know Mercedes years ago used to wrap the return fuel line around the low side A/C line after the evaporator for exactly this reason. Worked great... as long as you ran the A/C in hot weather.

[Derek69SS]

Why didn't they just pour the ice in the gas tank? :D :willy:

[LVCamaro]

Yes!!!

Yes!!!

...and that's the exact plan for revising things after tour. :thumbsup:

Charley finally proved to be worth having around, since he had experienced the exact same problem with that in-tank "A" pump [POS].

Scott says Hot Rod magazine is doing a magazine photo shoot tomorrow on the Velle, plus they're mounting a video cam on the deck lid as Jody and Scott drive some of the tour route...look for the deck lid to stay closed tomorrow! :_paranoid

SS

[Blown353]

Let me know what you end up using as the fuel radiator Steve, I'm thinking of adding one to my car before it leaves me stranded somewhere (hopefully in front of a Home Depot or Lowes where copper tubing and ice chests can be found.) I have a couple large B&M/GM "Stacked Plate" tranny coolers laying around, but I'm not so sure I want to use one for fuel duty (even if they are pressure tested to 200 psi).

Troy

[LVCamaro]

I think Charley outed the "A" tank pump and installed TWO Bosch external pumps to correct his Mule problems. I don't recall him saying if he went with a feul line cooler, or not. The yellow Velle will definitely get a XL cooler of some sort, in addition to moving the regulator aft. I've used tranny coolers before without problems, so I'm leaning that way presently.

SS

[Blown353]

I bet Charley's system is on a pressure or RPM switch so it only runs off one pump until load dictates the other is needed. That's another way to do it.

Now that you mention it, I guess the stacked plate tranny cooler would be OK... GM uses what appears to be that exact same design of stacked plate cooler for the fuel cooler on their Duramax trucks.

[LVCamaro]

Plus, he can switch to the cool pump if the primary overheats.

[ryans67deuce]

I think Scott and Jody look good in hats...LOL :unibrow:

I liked Scott's skirt... Didn't know he was that kind of guy... :eek: :willy:

[Stuart Adams]

I can hear them now at the gas station. " Fill er up and we'll also need 5 bags of ice - no drinks" :D

[Ummgawa]

Scott

are those your legs or are you riding a chicken?

:D :P ;) :cool: :thumbsup:

[130fe]

It was a good time at the Power Tour stop in Tallahassee yesterday. Other than the typical Florida afternoon rain it was hot and humid. It was nice seeing all of the cars and meeting Scott, Jody and Charlie. 69MyWay and Radrambler, I saw the black 69 vette parked (my blue 68 camaro was on the row behind yours near the building) but never saw you guys near the car. Maybe we can meet another time. Here are some pictures from the Tallahassee stop. http://community.webshots.com/user/130fe

[68protouring454]

hey sounds like a killer time, but the pics do not work, the link want you to be the owner of the web page??????????
jake

[Derek69SS]

Scott are those your legs or are you riding a chicken?

Around here, our legs don't see natural sunlight until mid-July, or when we go on vacations... or when we go out to get the mail in our skivvies :willy:

[camcojb]

Like that fix???????!!!!!!!!! We were cooling the return fuel. The pump is too large and bypasses a LOT of fuel. That fuel gets heated a lot by that beautiful polished and chromed engine and the return line gets too hot to touch after a bit of driving. This heats the fuel in the tank to the point you can't touch it and kills the pump (which is in the tank). A voltage reducer (which Charlie used before the current Bosch pumps) would help but maybe not cure it. If you get the regulator on the inlet side of the engine so bypassed fuel never goes through the rails that would help tremendously. Plus a voltage reducer for light throttle or smaller pump would help a bunch also.

[XcYZ]

Great pics, Steve. :thumbsup: I'll see if I can get my collection online tonight.

The EFI cool can certainly worked although it changed the map slightly. It was a learning experience and Jody and I found out that several people were fighting the same issue along the Tour.

[XcYZ]

I have NO idea why we posed for that picture. At least Charlie didn't post the pic of us with the Cow at that Vette place.

Here's what Charlie gets for posting that pic... :D

http://www.lateral-g.net/temp/mule_broken.jpg

http://www.lateral-g.net/temp/mule_busted.jpg

[tndude]

Smokey and the bandit. Thats funny Scott! :P

[130fe]

Jody, is that the guy who gave you the speeding ticket? :)

[kel]

Like that fix???????!!!!!!!!! We were cooling the return fuel. The pump is too large and bypasses a LOT of fuel. That fuel gets heated a lot by that beautiful polished and chromed engine and the return line gets too hot to touch after a bit of driving. This heats the fuel in the tank to the point you can't touch it and kills the pump (which is in the tank). A voltage reducer (which Charlie used before the current Bosch pumps) would help but maybe not cure it. If you get the regulator on the inlet side of the engine so bypassed fuel never goes through the rails that would help tremendously. Plus a voltage reducer for light throttle or smaller pump would help a bunch also.

You might also want to try a fuel cooler. We use them in my business (diesel engines) all the time as we use the fuel to cool ECMs.

I think Hayden makes a pretty good one but you can find them in Summit as well. They are basically a fuel to air cooler that goes in an air stream (like a tranmssion oil cooler). I heave seen temperatures reduced by as much as 80 degrees F with these.

Make sure you don't impose too much restriction though as you could affect fuel flow because of pressure losses. Best to keep fittings and hoses adaquate for the flow you need to maintain. :thumbsup: