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Bowtieracing
09-18-2007, 06:01 AM
Just notice "new" sposor here anvilauto . They have pre notice of carbon fiber parts for 1 gens on their web pages. Does anybody have an idea what to look for :cool: ??
www.anvilauto.com
I'm sure Matt will be chiming in. :thumbsup:
Musclerodz
09-18-2007, 08:13 AM
I beleive some hints were posted in a thread here awhile back.
Mike
ANVIL1
09-18-2007, 01:34 PM
I'm glad my advertising dollar is already paying off with Lateral-g!
I should have production pieces later this week and we are selling everything at a 10% dicount if ordered before the end of September 2007. We will have 3 peices ready to ship including a standard cowl induction hood (2"), header panel (for '67 & '68 as well as '69) and a cowl panel with aluminum vent inserts that may be replaced with what ever custom screen you want to put in. The hoods are avialble in 3 varieties and prices depending on the amount of carbon fiber and include the under strucure like the original if you want to use a cowl induction system. The lowest priced hood has a carbon to layer with all other layers fiberglass. The highest priced hood is 100% carbon fiber. The header panel and cowl panel can be purchased in carbon top layer with fiberglass under layers or 100% caron fiber. We are still putting the finishing touches on our web site to accept credit cards, but it should be up later this week. In the mean time if anybody is interested please call our toll free number 888-723-8882 which is also posted on our site. Anybody who calls and wants any of these parts will be put on a prority list and get the 10% discount before the end of this month.
I also have first prototypes of a first gen Camaro carbon fiber deck lid and custom rear spoiler. I'm hoping to have production versions in about 2 months. I want to make sure the parts are right before we get them in production.
We will be making 2nd gen carbon fiber parts soon. I just bought Jason Wyrick's '73 Z/28 that is posted on member's rides on lateral-g. Just type in his name and you will see pictures of this already bitch'n Camaro which we will further transform into a light weight street fighter. For anybody who lives in southern California, I will have this car at "Cruisin' for a Cure" at the Orange county fairgrounds this Saturday, Sept. 22.
-MATT
Matt, I'm looking forward to seeing the pictures. :thumbsup:
skatinjay27
09-18-2007, 08:24 PM
THANK YOU!!!!!!!!! MATT ive have wanted cf parts for my car soo badly (1970 z28) and when i was reading your post i was already thinking to ask you if you were gonna make 2nd gen parts, till i got to the end of your post!!! yes jasons ex-car is soo bad ass glad to see the person who bought it is gonna use it:unibrow:. please tell me your gonna do a hood and a deck lid and spoiler. cause for the longest time ive had the idea of having the cf masked off then painted so i could have a cf stripe!!!
Bowtieracing
09-18-2007, 11:14 PM
Thank you Matt for your reply! This is allmost too much of fun. I cant wait to see pics. :thumbsup:
Rick Dorion
09-19-2007, 05:37 AM
Time to up the credit limits! This is great.
ANVIL1
09-19-2007, 07:49 AM
Thanks guys for your support! I am an industrial designer by trade (www.3did.com) and have been designing products for my clients for years only to see them get all the glory and money. Well, being a dyed in the wool car guy, I set out to form Anvil to cater to the Pro Touring market with an eye on design at an affordable price. There are already a lot of great companies catering to this market which has grown be leaps and bounds in the last few years (due in large part to sites like lateral-g). I want to fill a niche by listening to my clients to understand their needs and desires. I'm starting with the obvious choices first as a business strategy, but want to get into more specialized pieces to make customizing much easier for anybody with a desire to express himself / herself through their hobby without having to rely on expensive one off fabrications. Let's face it, how many of us can afford a Barrett Jackson $100K muscle car? Not me. If anybody has an idea for a new part or any feedback on what we are doing, I am all ears! By the way, we are starting with carbon fiber, but we are designing and engineering other parts like low profile hood pins, billet pieces and LED lighting. I want to make sure these part are right before I put them into production. Our web site should be done in the coming week (some coding issues), so thank you for your patience!
Best, Matt
ANVIL1
09-19-2007, 08:02 AM
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention AJ, I have the same idea for the stripes. I plan to make everything that gets rally stripes on '70-'73 Camaros in carbon fiber which will allow anybody to mask off the stripe area and paint the rest of the parts body color. I plan to do this with the Jason Wyrick '73 and with my '69 as well which will be black for a carbon fiber ghost stripe look. The difficult piece for first gen is the filler panel between the back glass and deck lid since it is welded in place. It's screwed on for second gen, so no problem there. I would like to get a consensus about which header panel to make for the second gen first, standard or RS?
-Matt
skatinjay27
09-19-2007, 08:46 AM
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention AJ, I have the same idea for the stripes. I plan to make everything that gets rally stripes on '70-'73 Camaros in carbon fiber which will allow anybody to mask off the stripe area and paint the rest of the parts body color. I plan to do this with the Jason Wyrick '73 and with my '69 as well which will be black for a carbon fiber ghost stripe look. The difficult piece for first gen is the filler panel between the back glass and deck lid since it is welded in place. It's screwed on for second gen, so no problem there. I would like to get a consensus about which header panel to make for the second gen first, standard or RS?
-Matt
i say RS but thats cause i have an rs:D also i think the rs one would sell more due to the fact that you see more aftermarket styled RS's over standards. after i read you post last night i went out to the garage real idea of it and was gonna bring up those exact two items. luckley they come out in thier own smaller pieces... very excited about your parts matt, i cant wait for your plethora of cf part!!! the problem with getting a consensus for the 2nd gen is that the early 2nd gens are just getting popluar some a high percentage of the owner (lots on nastz28.com) are old school... cheap...and not into the whole pt thing. not all just most.
Payton King
09-19-2007, 09:45 AM
It has me thinking about a lot of things. Any thoughts on CF front fenders for a 69 Camaro? How about a trickey lower valance with a cool looking splitter that would flow into those front fenders?
Payton King
09-19-2007, 09:58 AM
You could make stock style front fender extensions for a stock look and my lower valance/splitter idea could be one piece that would have the fender extensions molded in. That way one fender would work for both the stock look and the modified look.
Something like this or a variation would be cool....But not the head lights. Now the hood is way beyond cool. Can you do that?
Bowtieracing
09-19-2007, 11:42 AM
. I would like to get a consensus about which header panel to make for the second gen first, standard or RS?
-Matt
I say stock:thumbsup: More out of there and i like the look more :unibrow:
jjarky
09-20-2007, 07:43 PM
I can't wait to see the Camaro with some carbon fiber parts on it. Just want to say the whole experience with selling my car to Matt was great. Matt handled the transaction very professionaly and is a stand up guy. I'm sure he will be turning out quality cf parts for the pt generation.
ANVIL1
09-20-2007, 10:05 PM
:thumbsup: Payton King,
Very cool computer rendering! Who did it and which program did they use to generate it? I like the way the low profile cowl induction hood flows into the front header panel all the way through to the leading edge of the the car. Nice touch. I plan on doing custom parts very much like this next. I wanted to fill the market with the easiest and most popular parts first, then design some custom parts that are in keeping with the original car's design while adding a little spice as it were. The vents on the hood are very much what I had in mind, but a little further back on the hood right over the wheel arch. I've studied a little on arodynamics in race car applications and the air extractor vents on top of the body work (on closed wheel cars) are usually situated at the peak of the fender. There is a low pressure area there that sucks the air out from under the hood and neutralizes lift. I have a '96 Viper GTS and if you look at the vents on the Viper hood that is where they are located. I was thinking of air extractors on the side of the front fenders a' la Trans Am, but I think it might spoil the lines of the car and may not be as effective as the vents on the hood. I am also having my body shop weld the fender extensions on my '69 to the front valance to make it one piece so I can use it as a pattern inwhich to make a mold for CF parts. This could save a lot of weight while smoothing out the appearance at the same time. I am also working on a custom replacement for the front chin spoiler that extends wider than the stock one.
-MaTT
Payton King
09-21-2007, 05:28 AM
Not sure on the rendering. A company called Evolution Motorsports were developing a full CF body that they were going to put on a tube chassis. They had a website with this car and another one rendered. Not sure who did it. I have not heard from them in quite some time. They were out of Georgia. I could not find them the last time I did a search, but that does not mean alot coming from me.
I believe the guy was talking about putting a twin turbo motor in the car might be why the vents are up front as to get the hot turbo air out.
I thought about the side vents up high on the fenders as well.
Looking forward to your parts coming on line.
70 chevelle
09-21-2007, 07:49 PM
How about a cf hood for 70 chevelles . The stock ones are too short and the aftermaket ones are too high. The stock cowl hoods start too far into the middle of the hood. A Chevelle hood with a long cowl induction area that is slightly larger than stock would be incredible. Then we would not have to use the oversized 4" cowl hood.
ANVIL1
09-22-2007, 05:27 PM
OK everybody, our web site is finally up and running and ready to take orders. Now that pictures are up of the product, I would love to hear comments. We are putting together a gallery menu that will have more car pics as well as drawings and color renderings by me and some of my designers depicting concepts for future products. Eventually we will create a vote for your favorite concept area as well as allowing viewers to put up their own ideas and photos of their cars featuring our products.
For anybody in Southern Cali, I will be posting a list of cars that we need to use as "fit models" as it were, to test fit products that are in development. In return you will get free stuff!
Best, MaTT
ANVil
ANVIL1
09-22-2007, 05:31 PM
Dear 70 chevelle,
We will eventually be doing hoods for Chevelles. I think your suggestion is a good one. What I would like to do is do some sketches on a few ideas and get feedback from the Chevelle crowd before we get into making a pattern.
My very first car was a '70 Chevelle, so they are close to my heart and still love the way they look. Even my wife likes them, and that's saying something!
Best,MaTT
ANVil
skatinjay27
09-22-2007, 06:28 PM
great prices matt. also i was wondering what the wheight difference is between the 100% cf copared to the top layer cf hoods?
race-rodz
09-23-2007, 01:31 AM
c/f close out panels, everybody with c/f valve covers need something more for underhood to tie it all together.
James OLC
09-23-2007, 09:48 AM
OK everybody, our web site is finally up and running and ready to take orders. Now that pictures are up of the product, I would love to hear comments. We are putting together a gallery menu that will have more car pics as well as drawings and color renderings by me and some of my designers depicting concepts for future products. Eventually we will create a vote for your favorite concept area as well as allowing viewers to put up their own ideas and photos of their cars featuring our products.
For anybody in Southern Cali, I will be posting a list of cars that we need to use as "fit models" as it were, to test fit products that are in development. In return you will get free stuff!
Best, MaTT
ANVil
Great site and great looking parts Matt. The hood without the stock frame and cowl induction bits would be great for those of us running fuel injection and looking for some additional hood clearance. Would that be an option?
Do you have a good estimate on delivery time yet?
Thanks
ANVIL1
09-23-2007, 01:40 PM
Thanks for the quick feedback! Yeah, we are working on close out panels to go along with the fender braces we are designing. I want everything to have a homogeneous look, so that if used together they look like they aren't working against each other from an aesthetic standpoint as well as for fitment. Instead of a flat panel like you see with aluminum, we are designing a more organic form, which a molded part allows us to do. The cf valve covers look great and I think we can come up with something that really compliments the hi tech look while beign functional. If you look at a first gen Firebird with a 400, they have the filler panels ahead of the core support that forces air to go through the radiator making it more efficient. A tight close off panel in that area would do the same thing while cleaning up the appearance.
We are also planning on a super lightweight hood with no separate understructure that will allow more clearance under the hood. I don't want to sacrifice structural rigidity though, so we are doing some re-engineering of the bottom surface in that respect. The key is that the finished hood is still stiff, but as lightweight as possible.
Best, MaTT
ANVil
ANVIL1
09-23-2007, 01:54 PM
James,
I checked out your One Lap Camaro site. Very nice car and well designed site. I like the fact that you are using a 427 LSX. I'm thinking about the same thing for our 69. I know you can go with a larger displacement, but there is just something magical about the number 427!
To answer your question, we can probably ship this week! I will have to get pricing on any shipment outside the continental U.S.
mazspeed
09-23-2007, 02:18 PM
Hey Matt. I just checked out your website, you have some killer parts. Id like to offer my 67 camaro for any test fitment. :D
I also think a trunk and stock looking rear wing as they are 67-69, and that part of the car didn't change for 69. The quality looks killer, and you will have a ton of customers.
Musclerodz
09-24-2007, 08:13 AM
Nice realistic prices.
Mike
Great parts!
I would also like to see a cowl panel with wiper hole deletes to smooth out the look. I don't use wipers LOL. ;)
ANVIL1
09-24-2007, 05:45 PM
Wiper delete on the cowl panel is an interesting idea. I'll get right on it. When we do the second gen hood we won't have the grill for the cowl air intake. The air will have to come from the back of the hood. This will make for a smooth hood much like the existing cowl induction hoods for second gens that you see. Wait until you see the first gen rear spoiler we are making? pictures to come soon.
mazspeed
09-24-2007, 05:46 PM
Wiper delete on the cowl panel is an interesting idea. I'll get right on it. When we do the second gen hood we won't have the grill for the cowl air intake. The air will have to come from the back of the hood. This will make for a smooth hood much like the existing cowl induction hoods for second gens that you see. Wait until you see the first gen rear spoiler we are making? pictures to come soon.
I can't wait to see that.
skatinjay27
09-24-2007, 07:40 PM
Wiper delete on the cowl panel is an interesting idea. I'll get right on it. When we do the second gen hood we won't have the grill for the cowl air intake. The air will have to come from the back of the hood. This will make for a smooth hood much like the existing cowl induction hoods for second gens that you see. Wait until you see the first gen rear spoiler we are making? pictures to come soon....what no flat hood for the 2nd gen...what kind of time frame are we looking at for the second gen items to be ready?also are you gonna run a smaller cowl on your second gen? i wonder how the one jason put on ther looks from the driver seat
ANVIL1
09-24-2007, 10:23 PM
OK, I took some pictures of the prototypes of the first gen deck lid and spoiler: carbon fiber dek lid and spoiler (http://s219.photobucket.com/albums/cc95/anvil_auto/cf%20deck%20lid%20and%20spoiler/)
They still need some little tweaks before I go into production, but you can get an idea of what we are doing. We took a stock '69 spoiler and removed the riser portion on the bottom that is about a 1/4" tall and is slightly indented from the edge. This serves to mask a sloppy fit for production cars. We hope to have a more accurate fit, thus eliminating the need for this while dropping the leading edge down right against the deck so there's no gap. It also provides a tighter fit to top of the rear fenders, so it will come with a gasket to seal it and cushion the ends when closing the lid. Because it's lower, we had to add to the outside ends to match the fender when looking at the back of the car. There was a lot of finessing to get it to look right. Because the elimination of the riser didn't leave enough "meat" at the leading edge for the studs, we made up for it by adding 4 teardrop shapes at the stud locations. So, we have a custom cf spoiler that retains the overall shape of the original. The deck lid has a carbon fiber top and fiberglass lower portion. We plan to do 100% cf on this too. The photo of the top looks like it's real bulbous, but that is an optical illusion caused by some reflections. It acutally fits better than the original because we closed the gaps all the way around to be even.
I would love to hear feedback!
MaTT
ANVil
ANVIL1
09-24-2007, 10:40 PM
I think we will do a flat hood first for the second gen with optional hood vents of different styles. I think the cowl induction on the second gen doesn't quite match the styling of the rest of the car which is very curvaceous. I'm actually quite surprised, though, that the view from inside the car with a 4" cowl hood isn't bad. It doesn't block the view like you think it would. It's a bit over the top for me, so we are designing a custom hood based on the original stock hood. As far as timing goes, it will be a few months before we see production, but hey, winter is near and Christmas is coming!
MaTT
ANVil
mazspeed
09-24-2007, 11:14 PM
That looks killer Matt. Just kick ass. I didn't know you had a trucklid done. :thumbsup:
murtah
09-24-2007, 11:51 PM
Matt,
How does your 1st Gen 2inch CI hood fit compared to the aftermarket metal ones? Similar? I test fitted a metal one to my car and it fit pretty decent. However, I bought a Harwood bolt on fiberglass hood that fit like crap. Stuck up way to high no matter how many adjustments I made on the DSE hinges. I now have a $450 shop table.
Additionally, when will your Full CF 2inch cowl 1st gen bolt on hood that has a smooth underside w/o the frame be ready?
I am ready now to pull the trigger on a full CF cowl panel and the hood I mentioned above. I can get to a satellite phone ( I am currently on the Syrian Border) before the 30th if you think you will have one of the above mentioned hoods ready in the near future. ( car was going to paint soon until we test fitted that shiny turd made by Harwood. My old man is still trying to keep shop date if we can)
Props on the new site. Looks slick.
Thanks for your time.
Jim
CamaroGbg
09-24-2007, 11:51 PM
Looking great:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Would be cool to have the entire front in CF. Fenders, innerfenders, cowl hood, cowl panel and so on.
Would be cool to have CF-doors as well. Imagine a -68 Camaro with Cf front with spoiler, CF-decklid with spoiler and CF-doors.
Any plans on this?
Bowtieracing
09-25-2007, 03:05 AM
Friendly pricing!!!!! :cheers:
Rick Dorion
09-25-2007, 05:51 AM
Such great products. Have you thought about a rear deck lid with the spoiler integrated into a one piece item? Maybe also, a more aggressive rear spoiler?
mazspeed
09-25-2007, 06:53 AM
Such great products. Have you thought about a rear deck lid with the spoiler integrated into a one piece item? Maybe also, a more aggressive rear spoiler?
I was thinking the same thing, and taking Steve's idea of intergrading a 3rd light into it, but the stuff looks great as is as well.
ANVIL1
09-25-2007, 07:42 AM
Jim,
I salute you brother! It's good to hear from American heros!
I can't give an exact date when production "bare" cf hoods will be ready, but it won't be for a couple months. I haven't figured out pricing yet, but I'll probably have an introductory price on it for a month before I have production parts as a pre order incentive. Stay tuned! If you are in a hurry, you can buy one of our Carbon/fiberglass hoods and modify the underside if you know how to use fiberglass. Then you just paint the underside black to match.
To make our hood, we took a steel hood and teaked it until it fit my '69 perfectly. I had to actually jump up and down on the edge to take the bow out of it! Once fitting properly, we blocked it and filled in the spot welds and seams on the sides. Once finished, this was used as a pattern for molds. The cf molded hood fits as well as our pattern which is better than a steel hood and much better than most fiberglass ones I've seen. A molded hood whether it's fiberglass or carbon fiber is a little tricky because it's plastic which can be effected by heat and it's spreading over a large area with hinge springs tugging at it. That is why you need to use light weight hinge springs and hood pins are always a good idea for safety. We are working on some custom hood pin/latches by the way.
Best of luck and God bless!
MaTT
ANVil :bow:
ANVIL1
09-25-2007, 07:59 AM
Everybody has such great suggestions, thank you!
We will definitely come out with a CHMSL (3rd brake light) kit for the rear spoiler. We are also considering other LED lighting for cars, but I don't want to give away all our secrets. I'm a little leary of making fenders and other parts that are more structural because of safety concerns. Most people who run fiberblass fenders are drag racers who have complete tubular frames and bracing. Those cars are really just shells on a race car which is what the fiberglass parts were meant for originally. Plus the cost involved with tooling up fenders, producing them and warehousing them for the limited market may not be the best business move, but we'll see. Never say never.
I want to keep things modular for now to make it easier for customization by my customers, but we are designing other non-stock looking parts including front and rear spoilers. I was actually thinking of a low profile rear spoiler instead of a taller one, but this is where I listen to all of you to see what people want. I will be posting sketches on our gallery page which will make it easier for people to decide. It would be nice to have enough dough to have access to a wind tunnel to fine tune the effectiveness, but for now we will have to go with looks alone.
Best, MaTT
ANVil
Musclerodz
09-25-2007, 08:07 AM
Matt, hope you know the 69 spoiler won't fit the 67-68, too wide. The 67-8 runs a narrower spoiler.
murtah
09-25-2007, 12:02 PM
Matt,
Thanks for the quick response. Sounds like you guys put the work into that hood that I was hoping for.
Does the current full CF hood you have really weigh less than 30lbs? Is it fully finished on the underside, including the parts visible between the bracing? How long would I have to wait for one of the current CF hoods you are making?
Do you think early December might be too early for the smooth underside full CF hood to go into production?
Could you PM me with a measurement off of your prototype decklid? I have a Dynacorn body and haven't found a single decklid that comes close to fitting. I need to know what the length of the rear edge of the decklid is.( by rear edge, I mean the one that would be considered the closest to the rear bumper)
I am ready to get one of your full CF cowl panels. Should I just place the order online?
Thanks for your time.
Jim
Bowtieracing
09-25-2007, 12:20 PM
It would be nice to have enough dough to have access to a wind tunnel to fine tune the effectiveness, but for now we will have to go with looks alone.
Best, MaTT
ANVil
Wind tunnel tested spoilers????? Wich could actually work!!!!!:bow: Looks like we might get as good parts in camaros than XV does for ebodys :woot:
Birdman
09-25-2007, 12:36 PM
Man, awesome parts you've got there! Those cowl panels are awesome, I love the grille!
:thumbsup:
ANVIL1
09-25-2007, 01:06 PM
Please allow me to reply to several posts at once in the sake of time.
We started with the rear spoiler for the '69 and are working on the one for the '67-'68. Since I have a '69 it was the natural choice for me, but my wife's cousin has a '67 that I have access to for fitting.
The measurement for the width of our deck lid is 52" on the nose at the rear lip measuring from the back of the car. It weighs about 15 lbs. Our 100% cf hood weighs around 17.6 lbs. Our carbon top layer with fiberglass lower layers hood (least expensive) weighs only abut 24 lbs. I think that December is a realistic timeline for the "bare" hood with no understructure.
Anybody who wants parts that we have available on our web site should order on the site. WE have a 10% discount until the end of this month (Sept. '07) so get 'em while they're hot! We already sold out of 100% carbon fiber hoods and won't have any more for about 2 months. Now, keep in mind that I am testing the market and didn't make a whole lot of them because they are expensive, so now the market is talking and I'm listening. If anybody wants to place an order for one before the end of the month, I will honor the 10% discount, just know that there will be a wait.
Best, MaTT
ANVil
tyoneal
09-25-2007, 01:32 PM
Matt:
What type and duration of Warrantee do your products have?
Do you, "Step Cure", your products?
Are your products safe to use with under hood Turbo Charging applications? (Lots of heat close to the hood over fairly short durations but occurring 100's or 1000's of times)
Have you checked the stability (Warping) of the hoods in higher temperatures? (150-200 F.)
Also, the Coefficient of Thermal Expansion (CTE) is different between a cured fiberglass part and a cured Kevlar part. Given this, is there a chance this will cause de-lamination issues due to seasonal changes in temperature? (What type of chemical coupler do you use to prevent this?)
What Methodology of Testing was used on these products? (ASTM ?)
Have you done any testing with the Gel Coat regarding degradation due to multiple temperature cycles from below freezing to 200 degrees? Gel Coat products can discolor and/or become brittle over time. Do you artificially age your products to check for this?
How about Thermo-shock testing? Hot engine to cold car wash or rain shower could cause surface fractures can occur.
Here in Texas the top of our car in the summer can literally burn your hands if you touch them. I spent a lot of time in the plastics industry and once parts got to be fairly large, shrinkage under cure could become substantial, and depending on the chemistry of the resin used (DOW 828, 826, Ciba-Geigy High temp products, etc.) What kind of tolerances can be maintained with your production process?
Sorry so many questions, your the prices are good and I would like to buy several items. Even with good pricing, the totals add up. I just wanted to follow up with these issues before making up my mind to order.
Thanks for your Patience,
Best Regards,
Ty O'Neal
murtah
09-25-2007, 11:11 PM
Matt,
Again thanks for the quick responses.
1 more question:
On the full CF hood you are currently making; Is the underside, between the bracing fully finished? In the picture on the website it appears that the cowl induction places and bracing are fully finished but the areas in between (IE: the back of the hood top) appear rough. Is that correct?
Thanks for your time.
Jim
ANVIL1
09-26-2007, 11:05 AM
Ty,
You obviously know a thing or two about plastics and bring up some good questions, but first, I feel compelled to say the following:
People have been commenting on our quality and decent prices. Most American companies that manufacture goods that are labor intensive, from hand lay up composites to consumer electronics and medical products, have them manufactured over seas. Even the computer you are using right now is more than likely made in China. Most cell phones and i-pods are made in China. It's the only way to bring products to the American market that are affordable. I remember when made in China meant crap. Well, with the influx of western manufacturers forced to go overseas, along with it came all of the technology and know how. I've been to China and I've seen it first hand. They have everything they need to make products there as well as we can here, but the workers aren't going on strike. They work hard and and it is highly competitve, so they are eager to please (kind of like it was here back in the 30's through the 50's). Now, I don't want to go into a social disertation here, so I'll just say that I did look into making cf parts here, but I was quoted almost the same price that my current retail prices are. On my last trip to China, I visited several factories and met with many factory reps and came away more impressed than my last trip 6 years prior. So, in order to meet my goal of making cf parts at an affordable cost with quality at least as good or better than the sheet metal parts that are currently available, I had to have my parts manufctured in China. I also have an industrial design firm that develops all kinds fo products for all kinds of companies including Fortune 100 companies that manufacture almost all if not all of their products in China. If you go to many of these companies, you won't see any manufcturing done there. It's the new paradigm of business. Design, engineer and market the products here and manufacture over there. If you go to Apple, who has some of the best designed and made products on the market, you won't see any manufacturig done there, but they still employ a lot of people mostly highly skilled labor. Anybody who owns a business in California knows that manufacturing here is almost cost prohibitive because of air quality regulations high cost of living, etc. I'm all for the environment, but I'm also a business man and a car guy who wants to provide products to this market.
That being said, lets get on to the technical stuff.
Based on the past products made by my factory who has made hoods etc. for import and domestic cars and motorcycles for several years, the quality is as good as can be produced without using aerospace practices (read cost prohibitive). Based on other hoods produced by this factory that have been used on cars with turbocharges and race cars, my products are safe to use with under hood Turbo Charging applications. They have done testing at race tracks in the past as high speeds without any adverse effects. I've also done my own tests on cars that run hot and left in the sun with no yellowing, fading, delaminating or warping.
All of our carbon car parts are made with high temperature resistant raw material, including resin, gelcoat and other material. There is a UV protective clear coat on all cf surfaces. As you know, nothing lasts forever and any plastic left out in the sun and the elements will eventually degrade. But, who in their right mind would leave their nice car parked outside for years after spending so much time and money on making it pristine? I've seen BMW convertibles that have dteriorating seat belt buckle housings because they were exposed t too much UV. It's just the nature of plastics. However, the factory that is making my parts has left a hood that they made out in the sun for 2 years without fading. Because the clear coat is the same as what is on the surface of modern automotive paint, you can polish it to bring back the shine if it ever does become dull. With the proper care, our cf parts should last for a lifetime without fading or delaminating. I guarantee our parts won't yellow, fade or delaminate for one year after purchase. We have a limited warranty that our products are free of defects in material and/or workmanship for the life of the product under normal use and environmental exposure and conditions (not for race applications). These warrents don't currently show up yet, but will be written into our terms and conditions.
Steel has a CTE of 11.1 and glass is 8.5. The CTE of carbon fiber is nearly Zero, the CTE FOR fiberglass is very low, so the total CTE can be nearly ignored. So the shape of a carbon hood has very little change from Summer to Winter. We aren't currently using kevlar in our parts. It's true that thermoset plastics continue to cure for a long time after their intitial demold time, but so does concrete. They are almost completely cured and very stable with the fiber reinforcement after the initial thermal reaction has cooled down. I am not making highly structural pieces like fenders and core supports, because of the structural implications. For now, I will stick with parts that aren't relied upon to hold the car together.
I am an honest and straight forward guy and don't want anybody to have any misgivings about what I am doing and how I am doing it. I am very excited about Anvil and it's potential in the growing muscle car market. I want it to be a company that provides quality custom parts that people want at a price they can afford. It can't be all things to all people, but we will do our best to satisfy our customers needs. I welcome any questions anybody has. Thank you for your support!
Best, MaTT
ANVil
ANVIL1
09-26-2007, 11:12 AM
Hi Jim,
The current hood we are producing is unfinished under the understructure, so if you wanted to modify it by removing the middle part of the understructure you would have to finish this area to smooth it out. Just remember to leave the structural layer around the perimeter of the hood in tact to keep the hood rigid. You would have to blend in this area with fiberglass and spray the underside black to match. We will be coming out with a smooth underside hood in a few months.
Best, MaTT
ANVil
Payton King
09-26-2007, 11:17 AM
waiting for a cool splitter
Bowtieracing
09-26-2007, 10:32 PM
Ty,
I am an honest and straight forward guy and don't want anybody to have any misgivings about what I am doing and how I am doing it. I am very excited about Anvil and it's potential in the growing muscle car market. I want it to be a company that provides quality custom parts that people want at a price they can afford. It can't be all things to all people, but we will do our best to satisfy our customers needs. I welcome any questions anybody has. Thank you for your support!
Best, MaTT
ANVil
Matt, this is really exciting for all of us. You have taken "aftermarket" to totally new level. I wish you a best of luck and when my project comes to a pont when body panels are considered i am seriously thinking your parts. Spoilers for sure now!
PTAddict
09-27-2007, 06:42 PM
Apparently, my online order 2 days ago got there just before the 100% CF hoods ran out of stock. I'll post some pics when it arrives ...
GregD
09-28-2007, 07:50 AM
I'd love to see a Carbon Fiber SS style hood for a first gen camaro. :yes:
Speedster
09-28-2007, 08:02 AM
Matt -
In addition to your body panels, have you have a nice market for interior panels too. Door panels, inner rear panels with speakers, kick panels, center consoles, etc. Also, if you made a nice CF gauge cluster for 67-68's to replace the flimsy Covin Classic one, that would be great too.
D Rock
09-28-2007, 08:45 AM
A real carbon center piece for 67-68 dashes would be bought ASAP by me. :unibrow:
ANVIL1
09-28-2007, 03:54 PM
You guys must be reading my mind! I plan on doing a custom center console that is made up of several pieces so the consumer can further customize it by addding foam and leather to top area that come in contact with skin (like arm rests, etc.) and leave the sides as bare cabon fiber. Other areas might be begging for paint or aluminum trim. I am looking at Camaro consoles and other GM consoles of the era to use as design influence, but come up with a totally unique design. I might even include a cup holder or 2 if people say they want that. We'll definitely make a carbon I.P. (car design speak for instrument panel). I think the second gen has a nice I.P. already, so making a carbon insert is a piece of cake. The '67 & '68 aren't so bad unless you want to add more guages, but it's pretty simple, so it would be easy to make a panel that fits right in. The '69 Camaro on the other hand is a mess with that clock in the middle at an oblique angle that matches up to the overhang on the dash pad and the recessed guages, it's going to take some manipulation. I'm sure we can design something that is cohesive and functional. The thing that makes it hard to make an ergonomic design for the gauge cluster is that everyone wants to use a steering wheel that is much smaller than stock with a thick rim , so it's hard to see the gauges. For this reason, I'm thinking of moving the smaller auxillary gauges on the second gen out so you look at them over the wheel instead of inside the wheel where they get blocked by the rim on modern day aftermarket steering wheels.
tyoneal
09-29-2007, 01:10 AM
Ty,
You obviously know a thing or two about plastics and bring up some good questions, but first, I feel compelled to say the following:
People have been commenting on our quality and decent prices. Most American companies that manufacture goods that are labor intensive, from hand lay up composites to consumer electronics and medical products, have them manufactured over seas. Even the computer you are using right now is more than likely made in China. Most cell phones and i-pods are made in China. It's the only way to bring products to the American market that are affordable. I remember when made in China meant crap. Well, with the influx of western manufacturers forced to go overseas, along with it came all of the technology and know how. I've been to China and I've seen it first hand. They have everything they need to make products there as well as we can here, but the workers aren't going on strike. They work hard and and it is highly competitive, so they are eager to please (kind of like it was here back in the 30's through the 50's). Now, I don't want to go into a social dissertation here, so I'll just say that I did look into making cf parts here, but I was quoted almost the same price that my current retail prices are. On my last trip to China, I visited several factories and met with many factory reps and came away more impressed than my last trip 6 years prior. So, in order to meet my goal of making cf parts at an affordable cost with quality at least as good or better than the sheet metal parts that are currently available, I had to have my parts manufctured in China. I also have an industrial design firm that develops all kinds fo products for all kinds of companies including Fortune 100 companies that manufacture almost all if not all of their products in China. If you go to many of these companies, you won't see any manufcturing done there. It's the new paradigm of business. Design, engineer and market the products here and manufacture over there. If you go to Apple, who has some of the best designed and made products on the market, you won't see any manufacturig done there, but they still employ a lot of people mostly highly skilled labor. Anybody who owns a business in California knows that manufacturing here is almost cost prohibitive because of air quality regulations high cost of living, etc. I'm all for the environment, but I'm also a business man and a car guy who wants to provide products to this market.
That being said, lets get on to the technical stuff.
Based on the past products made by my factory who has made hoods etc. for import and domestic cars and motorcycles for several years, the quality is as good as can be produced without using aerospace practices (read cost prohibitive). Based on other hoods produced by this factory that have been used on cars with turbocharges and race cars, my products are safe to use with under hood Turbo Charging applications. They have done testing at race tracks in the past as high speeds without any adverse effects. I've also done my own tests on cars that run hot and left in the sun with no yellowing, fading, delaminating or warping.
All of our carbon car parts are made with high temperature resistant raw material, including resin, gelcoat and other material. There is a UV protective clear coat on all cf surfaces. As you know, nothing lasts forever and any plastic left out in the sun and the elements will eventually degrade. But, who in their right mind would leave their nice car parked outside for years after spending so much time and money on making it pristine? I've seen BMW convertibles that have dteriorating seat belt buckle housings because they were exposed t too much UV. It's just the nature of plastics. However, the factory that is making my parts has left a hood that they made out in the sun for 2 years without fading. Because the clear coat is the same as what is on the surface of modern automotive paint, you can polish it to bring back the shine if it ever does become dull. With the proper care, our cf parts should last for a lifetime without fading or delaminating. I guarantee our parts won't yellow, fade or delaminate for one year after purchase. We have a limited warranty that our products are free of defects in material and/or workmanship for the life of the product under normal use and environmental exposure and conditions (not for race applications). These warrents don't currently show up yet, but will be written into our terms and conditions.
Steel has a CTE of 11.1 and glass is 8.5. The CTE of carbon fiber is nearly Zero, the CTE FOR fiberglass is very low, so the total CTE can be nearly ignored. So the shape of a carbon hood has very little change from Summer to Winter. We aren't currently using kevlar in our parts. It's true that thermoset plastics continue to cure for a long time after their intitial demold time, but so does concrete. They are almost completely cured and very stable with the fiber reinforcement after the initial thermal reaction has cooled down. I am not making highly structural pieces like fenders and core supports, because of the structural implications. For now, I will stick with parts that aren't relied upon to hold the car together.
I am an honest and straight forward guy and don't want anybody to have any misgivings about what I am doing and how I am doing it. I am very excited about Anvil and it's potential in the growing muscle car market. I want it to be a company that provides quality custom parts that people want at a price they can afford. It can't be all things to all people, but we will do our best to satisfy our customers needs. I welcome any questions anybody has. Thank you for your support!
Best, MaTT
ANVil
=============================================
Matt:
Thanks you for taking the time to address my questions. (I know they were very very specific, and you chose to be, "Frank" with your answers. I appreciate that)
I'm impressed with you being able to put these types of parts together anywhere in the world and keep things coordinated enough to deal with the types of customers on this board. (They are informed and insist on good quality control)
I look forward to adding some of your parts to my car as that part of the upgrade rises to the top of the priorities list.
Good luck with this endeavor, and I look forward to many more "Options" for us to choose from.
Thanks again,
Best regards,
Ty O'Neal
Rick Dorion
09-29-2007, 05:25 AM
A CF dash like the design of the DSE panel would be great. Maybe with a glove box door.
murtah
09-30-2007, 12:07 PM
Matt,
I just ordered a full C/F cowl panel in the nick of time. The internet was down out here.
I will place an order for your first full C/F smooth underside 2 inch cowl hood as soon as you guys put them up for sale. It will be bolt on and use the same latch, right? I envision this hood being like the one stenod made for Mark Stielow's Camaro X?
Anyway, please let us know if your future production plans change. All I need before paint is a hood. That and the wheels I ordered from Bonspeed 8 friggin weeks ago.
Thanks for your time and for bringing these products to the market,
Jim
Bowtieracing
09-30-2007, 12:15 PM
A CF dash like the design of the DSE panel would be great. Maybe with a glove box door.
Yes yes yes !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ANVIL1
09-30-2007, 01:18 PM
Jim,
Thanks for your order and your support!
Yes, the smooth underside hood (or as I like to call it, the "bare" hood) will be a bolt on piece and use the same stock latch. The bare hood will be good for clearance, but remember, if you are using a carburator, the cowl induction only works as a functional apparatus if the hood is sealed to the air cleaner. Otherwise, a cowl hood just acts as an air extractor, except for at very high speeds whereby air rushing over the hood and hitting the windshield creates a high pressure area forcing air into the opening at the rear of the hood. Our current hood retains the true cowl induction set up, meaning the cowl area under the hood is fenced off to the rest of the underside which, in turn, will create a ram air effect at high speeds. If you are running fuel injection, you can use our upcoming bare hood and just leave the vent open in the back or seal it off making the cowl induction raised bump a means to allow for more clearance (or a more agressive look).
Eventually I will come up with a cf carb pan and foam seal that will replace what is currently on the market.
Best, MaTT
ANVil
69Camaro
09-30-2007, 04:13 PM
I would be interested in a C/F center console trim panel for a manual trans (T-56) to fit a '69 Camaro, and possibly a guage pod simialr to the Autometer setup for the front panel of the center console... any pretty much anything else you can make for the interior. Maybe even an insert to cover the opening behind the shifter trim in the same console (seat belt buckle opening)... or hell just make a conpete center console for the Camaro.
ANVIL1
10-02-2007, 07:05 AM
I had a request to make the cowl panel for the '67-'69 Camaro without the holes cut out for the vent area (in other words, no vent area just carbon fiber all the way across). I wanted to see if there was a market for this. Another version would be a smooth cowl panel without vents and without wiper holes. I could even make it with the raised areas around the wiper holes smoothed out, but that will take making another mold. I would like to get feedback to see if anyone else thinks there is a market for this. Anyone care to resond?
Thanks!
MaTT
ANVil
mazspeed
10-02-2007, 02:17 PM
Hey Matt, if you could make a hood like what's on Charlie's Mule, you might have some business there. People with turbo's and superchargers typically go in or about these locations. The vents are not only effective, but cool looking to boot. http://www.lateral-g.net/lillard/11.jpg
ANVIL1
10-02-2007, 04:44 PM
Oh Yeah! That's what I had in mind only a little different. Very cool look, literally and figuratively!
MaTT
ANVIL
mazspeed
10-02-2007, 05:22 PM
Oh Yeah! That's what I had in mind only a little different. Very cool look, literally and figuratively!
MaTT
ANVIL
Id buy one. :thumbsup:
Steve1968LS2
10-02-2007, 05:24 PM
Oh Yeah! That's what I had in mind only a little different. Very cool look, literally and figuratively!
MaTT
ANVIL
Hey, you're in LA? If you ever need a '68 Camaro to test parts on just let me know. lol
Here would be the HOT seller.. a CF rear spoiler with a built in LED third brake light.
Trust me on this.. :)
mazspeed
10-02-2007, 06:04 PM
Hey, you're in LA? If you ever need a '68 Camaro to test parts on just let me know. lol
Here would be the HOT seller.. a CF rear spoiler with a built in LED third brake light.
Trust me on this.. :)
He's mine Steve, he's all mine. :cool:
Steve1968LS2
10-02-2007, 10:07 PM
He's mine Steve, he's all mine. :cool:
LOL... There's so many things I could type here but they would all read wrong.. :)
Besides, I'm closer than you are! :p
Now go finish that bad ass car of yours!
mazspeed
10-02-2007, 10:20 PM
LOL... There's so many things I could type here but they would all read wrong.. :)
Besides, I'm closer than you are! :p
Now go finish that bad ass car of yours!
I know, I left myself open for it. :lol:
The car's almost done. 2 more things left.
ANVIL1
10-03-2007, 08:20 AM
It's always nice to be fought over :lol: :willy:
But seriously, I will be needing a '67 or '68 Camaro for a fitment model as I get a little further along on the follow up to the '69 rear spoiler we are making. I do have access to my wife's cousin's '67, but I don't want to wear out my welcome with him. I would greatly appreciate whom ever wants to work with me, and there will be plenty of opportunities for upcoming parts. Just PM me and we can sort it out. Thanks!
Best, MaTT
ANVil
mazspeed
10-03-2007, 12:35 PM
Anytime :thumbsup:
tyoneal
10-03-2007, 01:34 PM
I'm not sure anyone has mentioned it yet or not, but is there any chance of, Hiding the windshield wiper arms?
Who all her would be interested in it?
Thanks,
Ty
ANVIL1
10-03-2007, 06:26 PM
Ty,
That's an interesting idea. Kind of like a lot of the '70s GM cars where the hood came back to the windshield and flared up t allow a gap for the wipers and the venting for the heater/AC (I wonder why no cars use that anymore?). It would be as if you grafted the cowl panel to the back of the hood and made it one piece and flared it up in the back. Heck, you might as well graft the header panel on the front too, that would give you a long hood like the second gen Camaros. The only problem I see is that the hinge position might have to change in order for the back of the extra long hood to clear the cowl and windshield when it is opened. If it does clear, you wouldn't have that safety slot under the hood to look through in case the hood flew open while you're driving. That would take some experimenting, but it would make for a streamlined look without so many gaps. Another thing that might be hard to get around is that the wipers sit proud of the surface of the cowl panel, so they may have to be repositioned deeper into the cowl so you don't end up with a really high hood near the windshield.
MaTT
ANVil
Steve1968LS2
10-03-2007, 09:13 PM
It's always nice to be fought over :lol: :willy:
But seriously, I will be needing a '67 or '68 Camaro for a fitment model as I get a little further along on the follow up to the '69 rear spoiler we are making. I do have access to my wife's cousin's '67, but I don't want to wear out my welcome with him. I would greatly appreciate whom ever wants to work with me, and there will be plenty of opportunities for upcoming parts. Just PM me and we can sort it out. Thanks!
Best, MaTT
ANVil
No problem Matt, wouldn't mind running some of your parts in one of the magazines (new product section).. I would think it would be a perfect fit for Camaro Performers magazine.. since you make Camaro parts and such. lol
Given how my car seems to be a target on the roads do you have any body panels made of nerf? ;)
murtah
10-08-2007, 03:10 AM
Matt,
When will the full CF decklid/ spoiler be available? I am interested. 52" rear length may be exactly what i am looking for.
Let me know.
Jim
ANVIL1
10-08-2007, 07:59 AM
Jim,
I'm working on getting the shape and fitment just the way it should be before I ramp up production. If all goes well, I should have production parts by December, maybe sooner. Did you get your cowl panel yet?
MaTT
ANVil
Birdman
10-15-2007, 06:06 PM
I got my CF header panel and cowl panel today! These parts are amazing! Great quality and they look awesome! Quality pieces, if you guys are even considering these I'd suggest jumping on them, you won't be disappointed!
Thanks for helping out with the Patriot Dream project, Matt!
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l201/Birdman79/Patriot%20Dream%20Camaro/1.jpg
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l201/Birdman79/Patriot%20Dream%20Camaro/3.jpg
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l201/Birdman79/Patriot%20Dream%20Camaro/4.jpg
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l201/Birdman79/Patriot%20Dream%20Camaro/5.jpg
murtah
10-20-2007, 05:48 AM
Matt,
The cowl panel did arrive at my Parent's house. Thanks, they sent me some pics. It looks great.
Do you still think you might have the smooth underside cf hood out in December? I will be your first customer once you make those available for pre-order. Same for the decklid/ spoiler combo.
What is your priority of work for upcoming new parts? I know you are busy, but I ask because I am prepared for paint in December and want to know if the smooth underside hood isn't going to happen in the next few months.
Have you had any other requests for the smooth underside hood? To my knowledge there is only 1 other company making them. I think you will sell quite a few, especially if the price is in line with your other products.
Talk to you later,
Jim
hellrace
10-21-2007, 01:59 AM
You could make stock style front fender extensions for a stock look and my lower valance/splitter idea could be one piece that would have the fender extensions molded in. That way one fender would work for both the stock look and the modified look.
Something like this or a variation would be cool....But not the head lights. Now the hood is way beyond cool. Can you do that?
That picture is sick, one of the nicest project pics I have seen :hail:
:thumbsup:
ANVIL1
10-22-2007, 01:16 PM
To Jim and all interested,
Things are progessing well on the development of the smooth underside "bare" cowl induction hood as well as the deck lid and spoiler. I think we are still on target to have production pieces ready to ship sometime in December. I know there is a lot of inerest in these parts and we are working hard to get them just right before going into production. If anything changes, I will keep you posted on this forum. We should have some new parts that are top secret that are not carbon fiber by then too. Stay tuned as we have a lot of products in development.
Best, MaTT
ANVil
skatinjay27
10-22-2007, 08:36 PM
To Jim and all interested,
Things are progessing well on the development of the smooth underside "bare" cowl induction hood as well as the deck lid and spoiler. I think we are still on target to have production pieces ready to ship sometime in December. I know there is a lot of inerest in these parts and we are working hard to get them just right before going into production. If anything changes, I will keep you posted on this forum. We should have some new parts that are top secret that are not carbon fiber by then too. Stay tuned as we have a lot of products in development.
Best, MaTT
ANVilhow about those 2nd gen parts matt:D :yes:
Steve1968LS2
10-22-2007, 09:28 PM
To Jim and all interested,
Things are progessing well on the development of the smooth underside "bare" cowl induction hood as well as the deck lid and spoiler. I think we are still on target to have production pieces ready to ship sometime in December. I know there is a lot of inerest in these parts and we are working hard to get them just right before going into production. If anything changes, I will keep you posted on this forum. We should have some new parts that are top secret that are not carbon fiber by then too. Stay tuned as we have a lot of products in development.
Best, MaTT
ANVil
I will be down for test fitting whenever you need me.. :lol:
Put a third brake light in the rear spoiler and take it up a notch.. :yes:
ANVIL1
10-23-2007, 12:45 PM
2nd gen parts are coming along too, but are about 3 months out.
We're working on a front valance/fender extensions for a '69 Camaro that is slightly customized as well as a front spoiler, but the rear spoiler for '67-'68 is also about 3 months out, and yes, we are going to have a CHMSL 3rd light option with LEDs for it as well as the second gen spoiler.
MaTT
ANVil
Birdman
10-23-2007, 01:48 PM
2nd gen Trans Am stuff, man! My 79 SE TA is next in line and I need some goodies for it! :D
skatinjay27
10-23-2007, 06:30 PM
and yes, we are going to have a CHMSL 3rd light option with LEDs for it as well as the second gen spoiler.
MaTT
ANVillol every time matt!!! i read what you say then before i finish reading i plan to ask another question and you answer it!!!! (third brake light, second gen)really excited about your parts matt
ANVIL1
10-24-2007, 11:21 AM
9163
9164
9165Thought I would post the progress on the 2nd gen hood and rear spoiler using the Jason Wyrick '73. plan on smoothing over the vent grill and adding just a little height in the middle for extra clearance and maybe some air extractor vents. The spoiler will fit flush like our fiirst gen spoilers in the works. They will have a neoprene pad on the ends so it won't chip the paint on the top of the quarter panels when shut.
I'm trying to come up with names for the car. So far, I've got "Silver Wasp", "Ace of Spades" & "Heavy Mettle" (spelling intended) I encourage comments, please!
Our '69 is named "Double Black Diamond"
MaTT
ANVil
skatinjay27
10-24-2007, 03:02 PM
COOL!!!! thats what i wanted was to get rid of the vents,BUT i HATE cowls on these cars...but thats a double edged sword for me since i have **** for clearance with the stock hood, do you plan to add a lil height some how with out a cowl?
when you plan to start on the header panels and did you decide which to do firt (rs or standard) ...cough (rs) cough lol. looking good matt
ps. its YOUR 2nd gen now:D
jjarky
10-24-2007, 06:10 PM
Looks great! Cool to see new parts on the car.
ANVIL1
10-24-2007, 07:55 PM
Jason,
Care to chime in on some ideas for names? I respect your opinion since it was your creation! My original thought after driving the car for the first time is "BAMF" which is an acronym for Bad Ass................
Since my wife just gave birth to our baby girl, I feel it's a bit too outside the realm of decency, but very befitting of the car nontheless.
Any ideas or comments???
-MaTT :cheers:
ANVIL1
10-24-2007, 08:05 PM
Were making a one piece front end that will look like an RS, but use the standard grill for weight savings. The whole thing should save a ton of weight and eliminate the seams as well. We will then follow up with a custom air dam.
We won't use a standard style cowl induction look for the top of the hood because it just doesn't look right with the curves of the body, so we are going to create something different to bulge the hood a bit without it looking out of place.
MaTT
ANVil
mazspeed
10-24-2007, 08:34 PM
A stinger hood for the first gen would be cool. :yes:
redfire69
10-25-2007, 03:55 AM
Hey Matt,
Watch out for the repro deck lids if you're using them for a mold, they can be slightly narrower (width) than original. BTW, any thoughts on a cosmetic tailpan piece, one that would attach over the original to fill out the tail light area in CF?
Great looking products. I will consider them when I get further along on my 69-
Ron
jjarky
10-25-2007, 05:41 AM
Jason,
Care to chime in on some ideas for names? I respect your opinion since it was your creation! My original thought after driving the car for the first time is "BAMF" which is an acronym for Bad Ass................
Since my wife just gave birth to our baby girl, I feel it's a bit too outside the realm of decency, but very befitting of the car nontheless.
Any ideas or comments???
-MaTT :cheers:
I like your suggestion of "Ace of Spades". Especially since your other car carries the same theme. I always liked "silver bullet" but thought it was to over used and not very original. I also like "silverback", like the gorilla.
Abomination
10-25-2007, 07:53 AM
I can't believe I didn't see this before. I will also be an early adopter of any RS 2nd gen parts you decide to manufacture. I can't wait to see the final versions, and at the prices you listed for your 1st gen parts I'm really frothing at the mouth!
skatinjay27
10-25-2007, 11:12 AM
Were making a one piece front end that will look like an RS, but use the standard grill for weight savings. The whole thing should save a ton of weight and eliminate the seams as well. We will then follow up with a custom air dam.
We won't use a standard style cowl induction look for the top of the hood because it just doesn't look right with the curves of the body, so we are going to create something different to bulge the hood a bit without it looking out of place.
MaTT
ANVilso you wont just be making the header panel for the rs... imo i dont care for the big and flush standard grill. and for my plans i cant just have the hood only since plan to leave the cf showing as the stripe.
ANVIL1
10-25-2007, 12:48 PM
Ron,
Yeah, I know about the repro deck lids. We totally reworked a deck lid to make sure it fit and the gaps were right before making a mold. The Spoiler will be flush fitting.
Not sure what yo have in mind for the tail panel. Do you mean an overlay of carbon fiber or something else? How would it adhere?
-MaTT
ANVil
ANVIL1
10-25-2007, 12:52 PM
AJ,
The concept for our carbon fiber parts is to reduce weight while looking good. There is so much weight on the front of an RS, that I figured it would be a huge weight savings if the whole things were replaced. I understand where you're coming from with the stripes, but there are still all the seam lines which would be great to eliminate.
Anybody else care to chime in?
MaTT
ANVil
ANVIL1
10-25-2007, 01:06 PM
Jason,
You know, Silver Bullet immediately came to mind and I thought the same thing, there already is a '70 Camaro named Silver Bullet made by Classic Chevy 5-speed. Saw it in Super Chevy. Silverback isn't bad because the car kind of hunches over like a gorilla. The "Double Black Diamond" name actually came from the ski/snowboard runs that require the most skill and agility to navigate. One has to be able to maneuver very well to go down these slopes, kind of like a street track. A car has to be very maneuverable to go fast on the twisties. But, now that you mention it, diamonds and spades go together like Vegas and SEMA!
ohcbird
10-26-2007, 10:22 PM
Matt-
Nice products- hope we can do some business someday. That said- []bhow about some Firebird 400 hoods?[b] Firebirds could stand to lose a few pounds off the nose... If you make a full CF piece, I'm in for that plus decklid & rear spoiler (so long as it has a CHMSL).
As Payton said, a nice front splitter or spoiler would be nice...
70GTZ28
10-27-2007, 03:42 AM
Matt,
Here's what I think, might be a good ideal. How about trying to do an Ram-Air style hood (simular to the early 70's Firebirds). I always thought that it would look killer if done right and bring back the "Old School" look. Just food for thought.
Rick
ANVIL1
10-28-2007, 06:55 PM
We will eventually do parts specifically for Firebirds, but I need to focus on the largest markets first from a business perspective. Not to snub the Firebird fans, because I'm one too. I did a frame up restoration on a "69 Trans Am myself, so I love those cars and Pontiacs in general. The great thing is, the deck lids and spoilers we are making for the Camaros will fit Firebirds too. Once the second gen Camaro stuff is in production, I have to decide what would be more popular to start with, first or second gen Firebird hoods. How about a Trans Am style first gen hood and a Formula inspired second gen hood?
Best, MaTT
ANVil
mazspeed
11-18-2007, 09:51 AM
Do you have the cowl panel with the wiper delete for the first gen?
ANVIL1
11-18-2007, 10:03 AM
Mike,
We will have vent delete cowl panels in about a month, but I will have to make a new mold to do a wiper delete. If there is enough interest in it, I will make it. I would need at least 5 people committed to it and some down payments to get it going. If anyone else is interested, please let us know!
MaTT
ANVil
mazspeed
11-18-2007, 10:55 AM
Mike,
We will have vent delete cowl panels in about a month, but I will have to make a new mold to do a wiper delete. If there is enough interest in it, I will make it. I would need at least 5 people committed to it and some down payments to get it going. If anyone else is interested, please let us know!
MaTT
ANVil
I'm in. I'm going to get rid of the wipers and run my intake though the cowl area.
tyoneal
11-18-2007, 11:43 AM
Hello!
On the CF Cowl hood with the vents. Do the vents need to be a little further back for better heat reduction?
Ty
69chevy
12-03-2007, 02:47 PM
Is a 100% carbon fiber hood compatible with the Twist Machine's billet trim plate for the back of the cowl?
ANVIL1
12-04-2007, 03:25 PM
Dear 69Chevy,
I believe the Twist Machine trim plate is made to fit the stock cowl hood vent opening which is not symetrical. Why the GM engineers designed it that way is bewildering, but our current lineup of hoods is like this, but I have not tried the Twist Machine trim plate. We have made the opening on our new 100% carbon fiber "bare" hood with a symetrical screw pattern, so we will be coming out with a trim plate to fit or it looks pretty clean without a trim plate.
MaTT
ANVil
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